Progressive Block Forced Public Option into Senate Bill

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 17:33


Senator Dick Durbin, who was in charge of counting votes on the health care merger in the Senate, is now saying that the public option was included in the Senate bill because of a Progressive Block of Senators who refused to support a health care bill otherwise. From The Huffington Post:

Democratic leaders were forced to include a national public health insurance option as part of health care reform by progressive Democratic senators who refused to support anything less, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said on Monday.

Durbin's assessment was made to a handful of reporters following the announcement by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) that after weeks of talks with his colleagues he had determined that including a public option that states could opt out of was the best way to go.(...)

"It's a zero-sum situation," said Durbin, who is in charge of counting votes in the Senate. "If we thought that just putting the trigger in meant that we'd end with 61 votes," he explained, then that's what leadership would have done.

"But there were some [senators] that felt that that just didn't go far enough moving toward a public option," said Durbin, who is himself a backer.

Quite a few Democrats did not like it that Congressional Progressives were threatening to defeat a health care bill without a public option.  However, without that threat, there is simply no way that the public option would still be alive, much less near victory.  Making that sort of threat on a piece of must-pass legislation was necessary both in order to make the legislation better, and also to finally make Congressional Progressives as relevant to the legislative process as Blue Dogs and Conservadems.

Darcy Burner summed this up pretty well today in an article from The Hill. (More in the extended entry)

Chris Bowers :: Progressive Block Forced Public Option into Senate Bill
Emphasis mine:

Leading House liberals such as Grijalva are trying to persuade like-minded colleagues that they can have as much of an impact as Blue Dogs if they wield their power as a bloc. They have threatened to vote against any final healthcare reform bill that does not include a public option.

"Any bill that does not provide, at a minimum, a public option built on the Medicare provider system and with reimbursement based on Medicare rates - not negotiated rates - is unacceptable," liberal lawmakers declared in a letter to Obama in early September.

Playing hardball politics with party leaders is a new tactic for many House liberals, but they are tired of seeing centrists exercise outsized influence.

"If they're not going to be a swing vote, they won't have leverage," said Burner, who said she would like to form a block of 12 committed liberals in the Senate, despite the reputation of independence among lawmakers in the upper chamber.

Again, here were the keys to this campaign:

  1. A Democrat in the White House, and Democratic control of both branches of Congress. (This strategy would not have worked before 2009, except possibly on the bailout).

  2. A piece of legislation the Democratic leadership considered an absolute necessity to pass. (The strategy might not work on immigration reform.)

  3. Uniform Republican opposition to that legislation. (The strategy won't work for any potential vote on Afghanistan troop increases.)

  4. A clear demand (a non-trigger public option) in return for the votes of Congressional Progressives. (The strategy probably won't work for something as murky as new financial regulations.)

  5. Cooperation and coordination between Congressional Progressives and outside grassroots progressive groups to maintain a large enough bloc of Progressives to defeat the bill if the demand is not met.
That is the Progressive Block strategy, and it appears to have succeeded.  Kudos to those who first began developing, and executing, the strategy!  (Contrary to popular belief, I was not involved in developing the strategy--just in selling it.)

If we do indeed go on to get a public option passed in health care reform, I have suggested we should once again use the Progressive Block strategy to try and pass significant tax increases on the wealthy during next year's budget fight.  I would love to hear other suggestions, too.


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A jobs program. (4.00 / 9)


Montani semper liberi

To elaborate (4.00 / 4)
it will clearly meet requirement 3, as Republicans will not be able to vote for it.

Montani semper liberi

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Attached to the budget, I"m assuming? (0.00 / 0)
This can't be used to pass positive legislation, either, just to modify must-pass legislation.

[ Parent ]
Sure, why not? (0.00 / 0)
Attach it to whatever it takes. We need to get America back to work, we need to rebuild the middle class.

Montani semper liberi

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I love the tag, Sadie (n/t) (0.00 / 0)


Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


[ Parent ]
Thanks. (4.00 / 1)
I needed a new one anyway, and I was inspired by Rosenberg's recent post on "ridgelines and riverbeds."

Montani semper liberi

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That makes it even better (n/t) (0.00 / 0)


Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


[ Parent ]
Always action centered. Thanks so much. (4.00 / 2)
If we do indeed go on to get a public option passed in health care reform, I have suggested we should once again use the Progressive Block strategy to try and pass significant tax increases on the wealthy during next year's budget fight.  I would love to hear other suggestions, too.


Change
"We must break up the banks and never again let them get so big that they distort our politics and take down the economy.


how about (4.00 / 5)
applying these lessons learned to the climate change bill coming up?

Carrots (4.00 / 4)
So, what can we do to send some thanks to these Senators?

Well could donate to the pledge block who started it. (4.00 / 5)
Damn good idea, carrots it is. And carrot cake too.

Here's a link for the pledge block. Lets send carrots.
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.
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Maybe for Reid too.
http://www.actblue.com/page/oc...
Pelosi
http://www.actblue.com/entity/...

Change
"We must break up the banks and never again let them get so big that they distort our politics and take down the economy.


[ Parent ]
Your "Let's Get Our Stuff Back" post (4.00 / 7)
is excellent.  A tax significant tax increase on the wealthy should be the next big fight for progressives.  It's good economics and it's good politics.  Make Republicans stand up and explain why the rich should keep such an unprecedented proportion of our national income when we have so much that needs to be paid for. Let's do it.

I think the first step should be repealing the Bush tax cuts... (4.00 / 2)
Then we can talk about a more progressive tax code.

[ Parent ]
Reinstate the Estate Tax (4.00 / 5)
Hold the line and refuse to reauthorize the estate tax repeal when it sunsets.  That 's going to be a fight.  But there are few ideas more faithful to America's founding principles than a public claim to unearned wealth.

[ Parent ]
Restoration of Glass-Steagall in the financial regulation bill? (4.00 / 6)
It wouldn't be a huge victory, but splitting investment and retail banks is something clear that can be demanded.

It WOULD be a pretty huge victory (4.00 / 3)

 Anything that erases Phil Gramm's noxious legacy is worth fighting to accomplish.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn

[ Parent ]
Hahaha...wouldn't be a big victory?? (4.00 / 1)
Are you serious?? Restoring Glass-Steagall to its comlpete strength would be as big of a Financial Reform victory as humanly possible, which is why the banking lobby will do everything to make sure that doesn't happen.  

[ Parent ]
The financial robbery started in the mid-70s (0.00 / 0)
not during the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999.  Unless you're talking about the early-'80s repeals, on which I agree with you, but I would find very difficult to pull off.

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I have trouble believing that they won't find other loopholes (4.00 / 1)
and it doesn't do much about derivatives, risk taking, bonuses and most of the stuff at the root of the problem.  But it is a clear line in the sand law that functioned effectively for sixty years and would be hard to argue against.

[ Parent ]
12 Progressive Senators (4.00 / 1)
1.  Sheldon Whitehouse
2.  Al Franken
3.  Tom Harkin
4.  Dick Durbin (possibly not, because of leadership)
5.  Mary Cantwell
6.  Ron Wyden
7.  John Kerry (a stretch, but the ground is changing)
6.  Jack Reid
7.  Sherrod Brown
8.  Robert Menendez (questionable, though he has been improving)
9.  Barbara Boxer
10. Russ Feingold
11. Chris Dodd (can easily be picked up w/ our support in his re-election bid)
12. Senator Jay Rockfeller?

????????

I would love a Progressive Senate Bloc!!!


BERNIE SANDERS HELLOOO (4.00 / 11)
Founder of the CPC.

[ Parent ]
Bernie Sanders or Pat Leahy maybe? (4.00 / 2)


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Leahy is damn good. (4.00 / 1)
But his high rank is somewhat restrictive on certain issues. He's been really good on torture/civil liberties and Bush investigations though.  Which is always good coming from the Chair of the Judiciary Committee.  

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Kerry's with us (4.00 / 2)

 Also my two Senators, Cardin and Mikulski (especially the latter).

 Bernie Sanders, of course, though he's not technically a Dem. Leahy's good.

 Rockefeller's been outstanding on health care, but he's not all that progressive otherwise. Cantwell's also kind of spotty.

 

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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you could probably (0.00 / 0)
count on Klobuchar a large percentage of the time as well.

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Alas, Amy Klobuchar is not progressive..... (4.00 / 2)
In fact she's working on being the Minnesota version of Sen. Dianne Feinstein and probably doesn't see anything wrong with that particular aspiration.

Klobuchar is canned, cautious and calculating; her core values are making sure she advances her political career.

I know. I know. This may not be particularly unusual for a politician. But it's not particularly inspiring either.

So.. the best way to make Amy do the right thing is to appeal to her self-interest---i.e. threaten to withhold campaign contributions from her and/or volunteer time and whatever else you can come up with.

The good news is......if enough people pressure her, she'll probably cave. She's over-the-top ambitious but not particularly confident.

The other good news is....that our junior Democratic Senator is Al Franken.


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Any way to primary her in 2012? (0.00 / 0)


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Menendez is running next year, (0.00 / 0)
and I have been HOUNDING him!

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Lautenberg is also with us. (0.00 / 0)
Reluctantly, I believe.

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Tom Udall was a CPC member (4.00 / 1)
until recently; for some reason he's no longer on the list.

I'm surprised the MA Senate race hasn't gotten more attention on Open Left.  This would seem like a golden opportunity to elect the most liberal Senator in the country.


[ Parent ]
Close tax breaks/loopholes as deficit reduction (4.00 / 3)
Instead of tax increases on the wealthy I'd rather craft a large effort to close corporate tax breaks and loopholes, to be sold as deficit reduction that will reduce government intrusion in the private economy.

We must find a way to demonstrate a care for fiscal responsibility. A non-tax increase deficit reduction package will be hard for the Conservadems to oppose and will box the GOP into either opposing deficit reduction or opposing their corporate sponsors.

Health care reform = Employer payroll savings = More hiring and more jobs!


You could even sell it citing that figure (4.00 / 3)
that says that something like 2/3 of all corporations pay no taxes.  

While we're at it, how about a tax penalty for trading with the Cayman Islands?


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Yes (0.00 / 0)
Or even a total tax simplification effort. (see downthread)

Health care reform = Employer payroll savings = More hiring and more jobs!

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Well, the public option saves money (4.00 / 2)

 And the blue dogs are STILL dead-set against it.

 That said, it's a good idea to smoke out ALL the corporate tools. And this is a good way to do that.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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Fiscal frauds (4.00 / 2)
Many Blue Dogs line up for the war in Iraq and other DoD wastes.  I'm still looking for the promised $100 billion back from withdrawing from Iraq.

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And who... (4.00 / 1)
...had the better positioning and success in the end. The goal ought to be to place the progressive caucus a champion of good policy that is also popular policy. If the BDs want to oppose good and popular, well good luck with that...

Health care reform = Employer payroll savings = More hiring and more jobs!

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Deficit reduction is not an ideal reason (4.00 / 2)
Public investment is - Americans are very supportive of government spending to ensure broad economic opportunities for all.

I do agree that its important to "demonstrate a care for fiscal responsibility" but that should't be the primary justifiction - progressive policies need to be sold with progressive values, especially when those values are widely shared.

I don't know whether it would be hard for Republicans and Conservadems to oppose, but fiscal hypocrisy could be a useful attack for progressives.  

Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


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Not mutually exclusive (4.00 / 1)
Seems to me closing tax loopholes and eliminating corporate tax giveaways etc. can be sold as both progressive and fiscally responsible. Deficits are now seen as (and are) a significant problem by large pluralities of the public. Addressing and solving that concern with progressive solutions will redound to our longer term benefit.

Health care reform = Employer payroll savings = More hiring and more jobs!

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But deficit reduction is a rightwing frame. (4.00 / 1)
To activate that frame, even for a good cause, will blow back on us and do more harm down the road.

Better to close loopholes and eliminate giveaways in the name of basic fairness, which is a leftwing value.

Montani semper liberi


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No... (0.00 / 0)
Deficit reduction is an appeal to independents frame that happens to be of use to right wingers now that they're out of power.

Looking at the explosion debt under Reagan and both Bushes, it is plainly evident that deficit reduction is not a foundation of right wing politics. Indeed, governing and fiscal irresponsibility was a significant part of the reason why the GOP has been swept from power.

Satisfying the public's desire for responsible governance will help consolidate our political position. More generally, when a large majority of the public is concerned about deficits and you're actually implementing a policy (for whatever progressive reasons) that reduces the deficit, it's kind of a no-brainer to, you know, point that out and get credit for it.

Health care reform = Employer payroll savings = More hiring and more jobs!


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It's a no brainer (0.00 / 0)
but there are plenty of progressive policies and goals that are popular among the base and independents.  There is a danger that Democrats rely too much on talk of costs or choice without every making arguments based in fundamental values. That is often bad short term politics and always bad long term politics.

The issue for me is how you make the case for deficit reduction - you can do it while reinforcing conservative frames or by challenging them.  I think its important to do the latter.

Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


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I don't agree (0.00 / 0)
I think its worth beating up on fake deficit hawks for their hypocrisy. In doing so, you can point out that this is really about different priorities - progressive ones are popular, the ones that Conservadems and Republicans share are not.  (See Greenwald's recent piece on the issue of priorities).

But I disagree with Steve that deficit reduction should be the primary argument, rather than a secondary one. (At least I think that's what he's saying. He is right that these aren't mutually exclusive.)

The key, I think, is that deficits are not bad in and of themselves - without them, there would be no investment (a very important point.) Perpetual deficits are a problem, and perpetual deficits in the name of increasing inequality and expanding empire are intolerable.)

Better to close loopholes and eliminate giveaways in the name of basic fairness, which is a leftwing value.

Fairness is a great way to sell this.  You've captured this perfectly.

Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


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OMG! (4.00 / 1)
The voice of reason and progressives in the Senate.

Excellent (4.00 / 3)
Thank you!
Let's start get working on this asap.

Tax Simplification? (4.00 / 3)
This would be as momentous a fight as health care, but sooner or later there is going to be a real movement to chuck the entire tax code and simplify it. It might be smart to undertake this while we have the numbers to craft a revision that is simple, but progressive and that throws out all of the garbage corporate tax breaks and loopholes.

Tax simplification under a GOP president and congress would be a regressive disaster. Perhaps we should do it now, while we have some control over the outcome.

Health care reform = Employer payroll savings = More hiring and more jobs!


Possibly the biggest and most important next Battle (4.00 / 1)
And by the way the most politically advantageous.

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Climate Change is by far the Biggest and most important next battle... (4.00 / 1)
By FAR.  We're going to look like bumbling idiots if we show up at the Copenhagen talks with nothing. Which will likely be the case...

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Essential but Not Fundamental (0.00 / 0)
Climate change with all its importance to life on earth. Is not a battle that is fundamental to changing our society. It is to asymmetrical a conflict to generate marshaling of forces needed to force a major shift in society.

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I'll agree to disagree on this one. (0.00 / 0)
Climate change is a symptom of the societal trends that have crippled every other sector of life as well. Financial/tax/election reform is important and I don't want to downplay its significance, but we have survived for quite a long time (millennia) with corrupt political systems. We will not be able to survive as a species with our current environmental habits.

IMO, climate change is the issue that most effectively illustrates the perverse economic and political system we have in place and demands its abolition...
I guess that makes me a Watermelon. Don't tell Beck : )


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cont. (4.00 / 1)
And transitioning to a sustainable economy and way of life is probably the most fundamental change Western society will ever make since adapting to the industrial revolution...

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Most politically advantageous (4.00 / 1)
Totally agree. Re-doing and simplifying the entire tax code in a fair progressive way would have the most far reaching benefits on real income stagnation, income/wealth stratification, properly progressive taxation etc. And done right, it would be very popular politically.

Health care reform = Employer payroll savings = More hiring and more jobs!

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Excellent, Chris. (4.00 / 4)
The world is changing.

Greg Sargent:

Whatever the final fate of the public option, these striking developments challenge several once-unshakable tenets of D.C. conventional wisdom: Liberals always cave. The only way to govern is from the center. Any moves by Dem leaders in the direction of liberals are, by definition, always about positioning and never genuine efforts to forge consensus with the left.

These "rules," of course, will reassert themselves, and the fate of the public option is anything but certain. But this turn of events will seriously embolden liberals and make it less likely that they'll back down in future fights.

http://theplumline.whorunsgov....

I love Darcy!!!


Let's be absolutely sure… (4.00 / 3)
...we're gonna win this fight first. I'm currently as excited as anyone else, but right now Durbin's statement is just a headline. However, when the public sees results--i.e., a robust public option passes--they're gonna be more likely to give progressives an ear (and even some support) in the next fight. The "results" meme will buy the Progressive Block a lot more than swagger. I think that has to be the endgame.

"This ain't for the underground. This here is for the sun." -Saul Williams

"Quite a few Democrats did not like it that Congressional Progressives were threatening to defeat a health care bill without a public option." (4.00 / 1)
But by and large, the Village Dems were delighted with the "moderate's" threats to filibuster or otherwise sabotage the health care reform if a public option were included. The influential Olympia Snowe, White House spokeswoman, was convinced and convinced many of the Village Dems that the "trigger-fig leaf" was the ticket to convincing large numbers of her Republican colleagues to get on board. "The only option we bipartisan patriots now have is to scuttle the entire reform bill" said Snowe with apparent agreement from her assistants in the Obama administration.

Climate Change won't work, unfortunately, the same way. (0.00 / 0)
Chris' #4 (a clear single demand) will not come of climate change.

Too much disagreement about too many things: the cap (Rockefeller says 20 is too high.  The Earth begs to differ), the money for 'clean coal', the allocation of the permits, the nature of the offsets, the money for nuclear.  The cap would be an obvious single thing to fight for, but alas, try getting the unity for it.  I know it's my sticking point- 20% from 2005 levels is pretty pathetic.  The investment in existing fossil fuel industries (granted, theoretically for consumer protection) blows the investment in green jobs out of the water.

I'm afraid too much of the country is stuck in coal-entrenched mindset.  I can't think of a single Senator who's ever contested the "coal will always be a part of our energy" narrative.  It's hard to imagine extricating them out of it enough that we could get a really solid target.  Add to this that a number of green groups are wary of trusting politicians (maybe besides Kucinich), and I'm unhappy about it, but I don't see progressive block working.  I would love for someone to prove me wrong though.


With all due respect (4.00 / 3)
Point #4 is a bit more flexible than you imply. The concept of a "non-triggered PO" did not even exist when the debate on health insurance reform began. It came about during the debate. During the 2008 campaign, the details of health insurance reform were as murky as those surrounding regulation of the financial industry are right now.

Also, one of the main mistakes made by the Dems going into the fight on healthcare reform was all the pre-capitulating. If the progressive block were to lay out a clear plan NOW they could stake out an initial offer for the coming debates and negotiation. No more starting the debate by laying out what you'd settle for in the end (ala the current non-triggered, opt-out laden, limited PO). Let's try to learn from our mistakes. Start clearing the murky issues with proposals that are actually to the left of what one can accept and put the conservatives on the defensive.



"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


Why isn't Darcy Burner in the Senate? (0.00 / 0)
Or at least the House... god I can't believe we keep failing to elect her.  Is she gonna run again in 2010?

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