Whip count Dem senators on killing Stupak

by: skeptic06

Thu Nov 12, 2009 at 08:12


Clearly, an abortion amendment fight in the Senate makes an already complex situation much worse.

We've been assuming that there is a large risk that a Stupak-style amendment would garner a level of support greater than a simple majority but less than a cloture majority; and, as a result, the Senate would be unable either to kill it or pass it.

But is that correct?

If a Stupak amendment does not have simple majority support, the rules give a quick and easy out: kill it using a motion to table.

The motion to table is nondebatable (ie, no need for cloture), and passes on a simple majority.

We need to have a handle on how many Dem senators would vote FOR a motion to table a Stupak amendment.

Not that this is not the same question as whether they support the substance of the amendment.

What we'd hope is that enough antiabortionist-friendly Dems would put the imperative of passing health care ahead of brownie points with the bishops.

Could someone organize such a count?

The form of question, as discussed, is vital:

If any amendment is offered which would have the effect of restricting the availability of abortion, will you vote for a motion to table that amendment?

captures the essentials, I think.

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