Henry Rollins Makes More Military/Foreign Policy Sense Than Those Paid to Make Sense

by: David Sirota

Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 09:15


In its typical - and typically desperate - attempt to sensationalize everything via fearmongering, most of the Serious Media continues to assess the Ft. Hood tragedy through the prism of international terrorism rather than through the lens of a stretched-to-the-bone military. And so we arrive at a truly telling moment in the American Idiocracy, whereby a heavy metal rockstar like Henry Rollins makes far more sense of reality than most of those in the media and political Establishment who are paid to make sense of reality:

Writing off the actions of Major Hasan as an act of terrorism avoids having to deal with some very big problems and answering some very hard and important questions. Hopefully, a thorough investigation into Hasan will be conducted with the greatest care and capacity. Such an investigation is anathema to some politicians and many pundits, as it may uncover too much awful truth involving things like Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and the effects on a human being of professionally listening to men and women detail unimaginable horror and atrocity for several hours a day, year after year. Such an investigation might bring up the fact that prolonged wars like the ones in Iraq and Afghanistan produce many casualties, often in unlikely places. And it might have to account for the upward spike in suicides in the American military, or even the suicide rate at Fort Hood. (There have been at least 75 soldier suicides since the Afghanistan war began, in 2001.)

When I hear someone attach the word "terrorist" to the actions of Nidal Hasan before the facts are in, I know they lack the fortitude to do the heavy lifting that a true assessment and investigation would require. I know they don't have what it takes to shoulder America's awesome responsibility to the men and women of the military as these two engagements drag on.

Don't want to deal with all this? Fine. Just don't say you "support the troops," because you are, in fact, leaving them to twist in the wind.

Rollins point is basic commonsense...which, of course, is why his point has been all but ignored. The American Idiocracy rewards hysteria, and particularly the kind of reductionist and bigoted hysteria exemplified by the effort to turn the Ft. Hood tragedy into a simple "America versus Islam" crusade. We want simple soundbyte answers to everything - even if, as Rollins shows, the tragedy is more likely the result of many different non-soundbyteable factors.

Of course, Rollins' analysis is not just complex - it also touches on the taboo when he references a military over-stressed by multiple deployments. Looking at that means looking at our adventurist foreign policy and, really, our entire culture's militaristic posture - and that's simply not allowed in the Idiocracy.

Instead, conservative leaders cite the Ft. Hood tragedy not as proof that there are individual crazy extremists of all stripes in America, nor as proof that the military is overstressed - but only as proof that anti-American sentiment in the Islamic world supposedly means "now is the time for a professional and legal backlash against the Muslim community" and that we therefore must further stretch our military by escalating wars in the heart of the Muslim world.

Forget that this course of action might not only further stretch the military but also further enflame the global anti-Americanism conservatives rail against - the only goal is to stir up religious/ethnic hatred, stay the neoconservative course in foreign policy, and rejustify the policies that have America value militarism over every other priority.

David Sirota :: Henry Rollins Makes More Military/Foreign Policy Sense Than Those Paid to Make Sense

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He's a poet, so no surprise Rollins makes sense (4.00 / 1)
But it strikes me that the first sentence of the quote you pulled applies to many others in this so-called "War on Terror":

Writing off the actions of Major Hasan Khalid Shiek Mohammed or USAma bin Ladin as an act of terrorism avoids having to deal with some very big problems and answering some very hard and important questions.

The fog war can obscure many things.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


The real question (0.00 / 0)
I think the real question is, how do we approach Islam and Shria law?

Conservative......CNN news:Nopenhagen: US PRES 2 WKS LATE ATTEND 1 DAY, GORE JOURNEY BY TRAIN.

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Islam is not a problem (4.00 / 2)
We've managed to deal with Turkey, as a NATO ally and as a trading partner, for decades. No real problem that Turkey is about 95% Muslim.

Not sure what you mean about Sharia. It always a problem when the religious institutions want to run the courts. We learned that during the spanish inquisition, for example. But, I fail to understand how painting everyone as a "terrorist" is going to help the situation.

Terrorism is a tactic, not a movement or a philosophy. If we only deal with "terrorism" we are being mislead because we will not be dealing with the issues that motivate the terrorists.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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A restatement of the question (0.00 / 0)
The Islamic approach to the Infidal has 3 tenents:
1.  Become a Muslim, or
2.  Live in subjection of Islam and pay the Jyzia(poll tax), or
3.  Have war made on you.

These have been the tenants of Islam for 1400 years.

What is your approach to Islam and Shria law?  

Conservative......CNN news:Nopenhagen: US PRES 2 WKS LATE ATTEND 1 DAY, GORE JOURNEY BY TRAIN.


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Realize that those 3 "tenets" (4.00 / 3)
do not capture the essence of most Muslims.

With very little effort, I was able to find a link to the
Five Pillars of Islam and none reflect anything like the three "tenets" you ascribe. Care to show me where you get your information?

I can make up lists too. The American Empire approach to "terrorists":

1) Become an American
2) Do not question the right of the American Empire to occupy your nation and determine your government.
3) Have war made on you.

The point is that "Islam" is no more a problem than "Christianity", or "Hindu". The problem is that folks wish to demonize an entire group for the actions of those that are using terroristic acts to make political points.  By conflating "terrorism" with "Islam" you are muddying the water and helping to obscure the real issues that drive those employing terrorism.  

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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You are correct. (0.00 / 0)
A simple search will come up with your pillers.  I would like to point out that two of your referenced pillers are mentioned in the tenants that I outlined.

Here is a link for you.  

http://www.answering-islam.org...

This reference work quotes the Koran, which is written in arabic, and isn't read by americans very often.  It also quotes the supplemental books of the Islamic faith.

I believe that after you review the link you will see that Islam is not like "Christainity" or "Hindu."  Islam is not only a faith or belief it also is a political system.  This is not "like Christainity or Hindu."  I'm not conflating Islam with terrorism.  Terrorism is simply a tool that followers of Islam use with frequency to spread their beliefs.  They also use political means to stifle freedom of speach.  All we have to do is to look at the Danish Cartoons and the aftermath.  The New York state legislature have passed protection measures to prevent citizens of New York from being suied by Islamists for being critical of Islam. This isn't a problem with Christains or Hindus.

Conservative......CNN news:Nopenhagen: US PRES 2 WKS LATE ATTEND 1 DAY, GORE JOURNEY BY TRAIN.


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Take this bigotry elsewhere (4.00 / 2)
Group guilt is nonsense.  "They" didn't do anything, "they" don't do anything.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

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Thanks David (0.00 / 0)
I will.  I believe that the KSM trial in New York will change us all.

Conservative......CNN news:Nopenhagen: US PRES 2 WKS LATE ATTEND 1 DAY, GORE JOURNEY BY TRAIN.

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Jesus fuck (0.00 / 0)
This is not Pamela Geller's blog. Don't give us patronising horse-shit. This has nothing to do with Islamic theocracy, and we all know that most Muslims we in the west come into contact with don't favour that anyway.

Forgotten Countries - a foreign policy-focused blog

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Yo Englishlefty (1.33 / 3)
You speak well.
The muslims we have come in contact with that believed this have killed thousands of people in New York and thirteen recently in Texas.  

Conservative......CNN news:Nopenhagen: US PRES 2 WKS LATE ATTEND 1 DAY, GORE JOURNEY BY TRAIN.

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And they killed 50 people in London (4.00 / 1)
Big fucking deal. That does not justify group guilt. This is not the Middle Ages, we do not do collective responsibility, and you can take your cowardly little blood libel shit and stick it up your arse.

Forgotten Countries - a foreign policy-focused blog

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Once again I have rated Money up so that his filth can be seen. (0.00 / 0)
And once I ask that he be banned. Many comments, imcluding by: Englishlefty - are well worth reading, and Money man is well worth understanding as filth before he is banned.

I think trolls that need hiding are commercials and others should be banned.

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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More and more (4.00 / 2)
where we look at an incident like this, or the Muhammad trial, or the overwhelming evidence that it's the GWOT itself which is the main thing driving the very existence of militancy these days, or the Kaplan quote, it's clear that this neocon faction is simply a pack of feral, rabid dogs who just want violence, war, hate, simply for their own sakes.

They're not Americans, they hate America, since they hate everything which can possibly be called idealistically "American", things like fair trials, civil liberties, preferring peace to war, even caring about the troops for whom they obviously feel nothing but contempt, considering them to be nothing but physical cannon fodder while having nothing but contempt for the concept that these soldiers have minds and family lives. (No one who cares about such things would treat the troops the way they have, and yet they want to make it even worse.)

And it's no accident that they're all despicable physical cowards themselves, none of them ever having gone to war, or ever having experienced violence. (Rollins OTOH has known real violence.)

In moments like these we can remeber Orwell's fond but seldom-fulfilled wish, that we could ever see "a jingo with a bullet hole".

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Yes, but (0.00 / 0)
If you listen to NPR's Daniel Zwerdling's coverage of the Hasan back story, it's pretty clear that the root of the problem was the military tolerating a nutball in their midst. Hasan had a long, long record of poor performance and erratic behavior and was considered possibly unstable by his colleagues and commanders, who sent him to Fort Hood rather than fire him.

Not saying that Henry Rollins is wrong in general terms, I think he's right, but I think that this narrative will take hold in the Hasan case not only because it's convenient for the status quo but also because it seems to be true. This really may be a case of a man who went very slowly insane on his own and wasn't stopped in time. A nut with a gun.

There will probably be reforms instituted to screen out and identify nuts in the armed forces medical corps and separate them from their guns, and the establishment will wipe its hands and say "done" while the military continues to grind down its personnel, use them up, and toss them away.


Let me clarify (4.00 / 1)
I don't think I was specific enough. According to the NPR story, Hasan was 10% terrorist, 10% stressed out, and 80% plain old mentally ill. If he had had no jihadist contacts and was protected from the stresses of war, he still would have been dangerously crazy.

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The 10% terrorist bit was probably helped by the mental illness (0.00 / 0)
Extremist groups do tend to attract a disproportionate share of those who need serious psychological help.

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I'd say that only strengthens Rollins' argument, (0.00 / 0)
not weakens it. If the military wasn't so stretched, obviously troubled souls would have a much greater liklihood of being pulled off duty long before they snapped.

What we've also learned post-Hasan tragedy is how jaw- droppingly abysmal the ratio of soldiers to military shrinks is. And its only gotten drastically worse in the past 5 years, even as the stress and strain on military personnel and their families has increased.


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To peel the onion another layer (0.00 / 0)
Not adding anything new to the brilliant quote by Rollins, but exploring the ramifications a little further:

To blame the Ft Hood incident on "terrorism" is to support the status quo.  It lumps the assailant in with the wars in Iraq in Afghanistan, it is simply another reason to fight the terrorists over there.  As Rollins says, it is lazy and easy and doesn't challenge the paradigm in DC, so it is chosen by the pundits (esp. Fox News, they can't let this one slide.)

But as soon as you look past that simple "terrorism" label and start viewing this as a stressed out military, the name game shifts dramatically and the status quo is destroyed.  The rallying cry of the pundits is to "support the troops", which up until now was synonymous with supporting the wars.  Only dirty hippies and pussies don't appreciate the troops.  But if the wars themselves are tearing our soldiers apart, suddenly supporting the troops means NOT supporting the wars.  In fact, if the troops' well-being is paramount (as is so often expressed in the capital and on TV), the wars are a direct threat to that objective. Therefore, to support the troops you need to end the wars.

This is why they are so rabid about the terrorism meme and why Henry Rollins is the only honest pundit you'll hear on the subject (if you are cruising Vanity Fair online for political news.)

Honestly, I don't know how much longer the center can hold in the USA.  When you have to dig this deep for common sense, we are in a world of hurt.


The Power of Nightmares (4.00 / 1)
Terrorists seek to control our thoughts and actions through fear.  Conservatives do the same. Since the days of Joe McCarthy and Congressman Richard Nixon's pursuit of Alger Hiss, conservatives have invoked the specter of foreign enemies and domestic traitors to frighten the American people into giving up their freedoms, their privacy, their wages, and their power to an increasingly secretive, militarized, executive-dominated state that will "protect" them into the dubious safety of serfdom. But then something wonderful happened. After the long Reign of Terror of the Bush/Cheney years, the American people finally summoned the courage to break out of their prison of fear and vote for hope instead.  Obama was to be the new FDR.  He was to tell us that "we have nothing to fear but fear itself" and prove it by his actions.  But that has yet to happen. Though Obama remains full of soaring words, his acts have done little to reduce people's fears of losing their jobs or homes or their health or their fear or becoming victims of discrimination or even terrorism.  If anything, just the opposite.  Whether it's colluding with banksters or extending the states secrets doctrine, Obama has given us all more grounds for fear.  And all these separate fears tend to merge and fuse and heighten one another in a process we psychologists call "generalization."  Though this does not make rational sense, it does make emotional sense: as people become more afraid in one area they become more afraid across the board.  That is, they become more fearful in general.  And this increasing fearfulness has a number of different outcomes.  One is an increase in apathy. Another is an increase in authoritarianism.  Another is an increase in paranoia.  And another is an increase in violence towards self and/or others.  As in the case of the Ft. Hood shooter.  Or the torturers at Abu Ghraib.  Fear leads to feelings of helplessness.  And helplessness leads to violence towards others and/or the self as a way of restoring some sense of power in the face of what the individual experiences as overwhelming evil--whether that evil is defined as "ragheads" or the US Imperial Army.  Thus Obama is faced with a Faustian choice.  He can maintain the Imperial Presidency and the corporate powers that be.  Or he can free us of our fears, much as FDR did, through eloquent words and still more courageous actions. And then will we witness a new birth of freedom.  It is up to us to influence him.  

Major political interests: torture; human rights; stopping war with Iran.

If we consider Hasan a terrorist (4.00 / 1)
following a fundamentalist version of his chosen religion, then those killing abortion doctors (Operation Rescue, for example) are terrorists as well.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


Don't be ridiculous. (0.00 / 0)
There's no such thing as a Christian "terrorist".  

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I certain that the folks in Northern Ireland agree (0.00 / 0)


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Certainly they do (0.00 / 0)
After all, what rational individual could consider Catholics/Protestants (delete as applicable) to be Christians?

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This snark is humourous. (0.00 / 0)


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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quibble (4.00 / 4)
great post and great comments, so I'll just say I'd call Henry Rollins "punk" and not heavy metal.

He came up with Black Flag at the height of LA's punk scene.


Oh yes, very correct. (0.00 / 0)


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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