so, when the DNC needs our help with procedural trifles (4.00 / 5)

we should ask how high we need to jump

meanwhile, they'll continue to ignore progressive voices on the actual substance of the legislation and give massive gifts to their corporate masters at the expense of the working class

noted

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by: TravisDisaster @ Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 23:40:29 PM CST

60 Democrats weren't enough. (4.00 / 1)

Now we have to change "their" rules, too.  

They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20. ~~ Dennis Kucinich  

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by: dkmich @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 04:35:54 AM CST

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Nice. (4.00 / 3)

   I love it when progressives piss off whiny staffers.

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by: Operative086 @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 00:29:58 AM CST

Is Chris's head intact? (4.00 / 6)

Read this at TPM and immediately came here to see if Chris's head had exploded.

Blasting their elected Democratic officials ... may make folks feel good, but is both short-sighted and stupid.

My sight isn't so short that I can remember when this wasn't a problem when the GOP had just a 51 seat majority, or when the were able to generate an effective "Up or Down Vote" campaign, or when they used reconciliation when needed, etc. And I don't recall their Chief's of Staff having to anonymously whine about criticism of their legislative impotence.

Fortunately, I have great confidence that our Democratic leadership will enable some type of neutering of the filibuster .... right after the GOP reclaims the majority.

"Don't take much, does it, elected Democrats, to get your balls tucked up." Cf.

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by: Steve in Sacto @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 00:44:37 AM CST

Aw. "It isn't fair." My heart bleeds. (4.00 / 9)

They want to start talking about doing what's fair, I have no problems going there.

You want to know what's not fair?  Working your ass off getting Dems their 60 fucking seat supermajority because that was how many they said they needed to actually pass legislation, then being told it's not fair to actually hold them accountable when they say they can't fucking pass legislation.

It's not fair that they keep shifting the goal posts.

It's not fair that it's always the progressives who get blamed when it's the conservatives in the party fucking things up.

It's not fair that war criminals are being let off the hook, but god forbid a woman wants to get an abortion.

They want to talk about what's unfair?  Oh yes, I can go there.  I can go there at quite some length.

If they want my help, I want something tangible in return, first.  It's only fair, after all.  Especially after how unfairly they've treated us all these years.

For my help killing the filibuster, here's what I want.  A clean jobs bill.  No tax break.  No corporate loopholes.  No offshoring.  No fucking stabbing us in the back.  Get it done and do it right.  They give me that, I'll do everything I can to help kill the filibuster.

If you don't fight, you can't win.
Never give up. Never Surrender.

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by: Gabriel D @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 01:24:39 AM CST

Do your fucking jobs! (4.00 / 2)

These guys are absolutely pathetic!

Do they not understand that people worked their asses off, and gave unstintingly of their precious time and money, in order to elect Obama and a Democratic Congress?

We have a Senate supermajority and the first Democratic president to win a popular majority in over thirty years--a Nobel laureate to boot!--and you tell me you can't even pass the biggest priority that Obama campaigned on.

You came around with your hands out, wearing shit-eating grins and promising the moon. And now that you've crapped all over yourselves in full view of the nation, all you can do whine and bitch about your supporters from the safety of anonymity, and ask for more money and more time and more effort? Fuck no.

Do. Your. Fucking. Jobs.

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by: limpidglass @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 03:35:23 AM CST

Parodies itself (4.00 / 5)

If progressives REALLY want to transform America, they'll make an issue of the anti-democratic rules of the Senate which make real change virtually impossible.

Why aren't the fucking senators making an issue of the anti-democratic rules of the Senate?

If progressives do mount a campaign against the ossified procedures of the Senate, you just know this anonymous whiner will come out to publicly defend the honorable traditions of this most august deliberating body in the world.

As if.

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by: Taylor @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 07:58:46 AM CST

so, whose going to speak agaist the fillibuster today? (4.00 / 1)

Great.  I'm glad a Democratic Chief of Staff is working on this.  I forgot, though, when the Democrats proposed fillibuster reform at the start of the session, how many votes did it get?

Also, who is lined up today when folks may be watching the Senate to give the speech against the fillibuster?   I hope it's someone with some seniority, but if not, at least Mr. Burris might be able to mention it.

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by: windshouter @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 08:04:22 AM CST

Joe Sestak & Arlen Spector (0.00 / 0)

Is there any chance we can get Joe Sestak to take the position to reform the filibuster and other Senate rules?  If he does, do you think we can get Spector to parrot the same talking points?

We need at least one senator to starting talking about this loudly.  I actually think Arlen Spector may be the perfect person, both being a former Republican and highly manipulatable  willing to say anything for reelection a person of high moral fiber.

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by: Mark Matson @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 14:31:32 PM CST

Newly registered George057's time is better spent in honest debate.... (0.00 / 0)

....instead of transparent shilling for Congressional Dems with feel-good bromides.

I wonder if he is TPM's email source?

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by: Taylor @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 15:50:13 PM CST