"Gentleman's Club" Senate isn't working for us

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 18:30


I was a little surprised to read Susie Madrak writing about Joe Sestak's potential conflicts with other Senators as a negative:

It's a legitimate question since, as Howard Dean pointed out, the Senate is a gentlemen's club and your effectiveness is closely tied to your ability to build relationships.

I can certainly confirm what Susie writes about Joe Sestak expecting his staff to work very hard, and I can also confirm that he isn't going to build great relationships with the leadership.  But really, why is this a bad thing?  He was still ranked as the most productive freshman in the House back in 2007.  Further, current Senate effectiveness does not seem particularly effective to me, largely because relationships are valued so much more than solving major problems.  Supposedly, these relationships are built so that major problems can be solved, but how's that working out for us now?

Last week, Senator Claire McCaskill said the Senate was putting off the climate change bill for several months, because pushing it now was too hard and would make too many Senators mad:

Some senators are skeptical lawmakers will be ready to tackle another huge issue after finishing health care. "After you do one really, really big, really, really hard thing that makes everybody mad, I don't think anybody's excited about doing another really, really big thing that's really, really hard that makes everybody mad," Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., said. "Climate fits that category."

To put it one way, maintaining Senate collegiality is more important than taking steps to avoid ecological apocalypse.  Don't we actually want to do away with this attitude, rather than support it?

Maintaining a friendly atmosphere seems extremely important to Senators, but it is hard to see how it has any benefit to progressives, America or the world.  Take Joe Lieberman as an example:

  • It is the collegial atmosphere that resulted in Joe Lieberman receiving a standing ovation from Democratic Senators, even after he had promised to run as an independent against a Democratic Senate nominee in Connecticut.  
  • It is the same collegiality that easily kept Joe Lieberman in the caucus--and gave him a chairmanship--after endorsing and campaigning with John McCain throughout 2008.
  • It is the collegial atmosphere that resulted in the Gang of 14 working to keep the filibuster back in 2005.  This is the same filibuster that is now working to block or water down virtually every plank of the Democratic platform, resulting in Senators like Joe Lieberman de facto President.
That's what Senate collegiality gets us.  When we need to fix major problems in this country, a Joe Lieberman types holds veto power.  When the Democratic base tried to hold the Joe Lieberman type accountable for this, Democratic Senators praise said Joe Lieberman type.  When Joe Lieberman type goes even further off the reservation, Democratic leaders do whatever possible to not hold him accountable.  And then, when we ask why Democrats in the Senate aren't solving major problems, we are told that maintaining this collegial atmosphere to protect Joe Lieberman types is more important.  And then they ask us for more money.

This relationship-focused collegiality just doesn't seem to work, and breaking it up would probably be an improvement.  Say whatever else you will about Joe Sestak, but his willingness to even engage this primary challenge--against the wishes of much of the Democratic leadership at every level--demonstrates he is willing to challenge a dysfunctional, status quo that simply is not producing results.  Further, time and time again, Sestak's challenge to the status quo has demonstrated an ability to get results.  Arlen Specter is suddenly voting and talking like he is Bernie Sanders only a few months after flipping against EFCA and introducing flat-tax legislation to the Senate.  Has there ever been a more successful campaign to change a Senator's behavior?

Relationship-focusing politicians just isn't what we need right now.  The status quo institutions are not working and, from what I have seen, you can get more positive results by challenging the gentleman's club than by working within it.

Chris Bowers :: "Gentleman's Club" Senate isn't working for us

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Well, I certainly agree (4.00 / 1)
that collegiality isn't what we need, quite the contrary, and I applaud Sestak's defying the Democratic leadership, how much of a challenge to the status quo can he possibly represent when his views are so conventional?

I'm thinking, in particular, of his support for escalation in Afghanistan. Imagine if he, a navy vet, were leading the call for withdrawal; instead he's getting outflanked by Specter. Blah.


I'm with you - this makes Sestak more qualified in my eyes (4.00 / 2)
not less.  Aside from the general dysfunctionality of this attitude, it also functions to prevent popular accountability. Our political system depends on the two parties drawing comparisons between themselves.  To the extent that they do not (or perhaps worse, if only one party does) it becomes impossible for citizens to make their voices heard effectively.

This is even more important when our side is more popular with a more popular set of policies.

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'We' have zero leverage (4.00 / 1)
Senators could care less what 'we' think: by and large, to judge from how they act, I infer that they  believe that the current setup is just fine; everyone gets a chance to grandstand from time to time, and to get some legislative gravy, while they concentrate on the most important thing: getting enough dough to get reelected.

Even any that are unhappy with Senate folkways will recognise that pleasing the netroots by non-gentlemanly conduct (serial refusal to join in unanimous consent agreements, say) would do nothing to change the gentleman's club MO or enhance their reelection prospects.

For instance, my impression (rightly or wrongly) is that neither Sanders nor Franken, to name two potential rebels, have been noticeably less gentlemanly that other freshmen senators in the 111th.    


Accurate observation (0.00 / 0)
I think you're right, skeptic.

In Franken's case, though, he may just be focused on setting a foundation for his (first) term. He hasn't rocked the boat, but he's already asking better/harder questions in committee than most every other Senator.

It's also possible that there's a need to learn when/where boat rocking accomplishes something. As you point out, there is precious little point in being ungentlemanly just for the sake of doing it.

(Great to see you back again, s06. I hadn't seen your Sept/Oct posts.)

Karl in Drexel Hill, PA


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Actually (4.00 / 1)
I had a sinking feeling when I read somewhere that Franken was determined to behave himself as a perfectly collegial senator and NOT use any of the aggressive, caustic humor we so badly need, humor as a weapon.

I said here we go again, another self-castrating Democrat.

Palin may be stupid in most ways, but she's smart enough to know she doesn't need to listen to those lecturing her about studying stuff. She knows what her strengths are and she's damn well going to use them.

WhyTF can't we get more of that spirit here?

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Clubby (0.00 / 0)
Since when is being clubby ever a good thing?

When I was a member of my college gaming club. (4.00 / 1)
We were pretty clubby, and it worked out just fine.  Not like we wanted non-club members to be allowed to have a say in what we did as a club, after all, and none of the other students seemed to mind.

Of course, we weren't setting school policy, either.  I think that kinda made a difference.

If you don't fight, you can't win.
Never give up. Never Surrender.


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McCaskill (1.33 / 3)
Senator McCaskill is a blonde, to the bone.  She's not in the same class as Joe Sestak.  He's expecting to do something and wants some work out of his employees.  She, on the other hand, is into "more relxed" political dabbleness.  

Conservative......CNN news:Nopenhagen: US PRES 2 WKS LATE ATTEND 1 DAY, GORE JOURNEY BY TRAIN.

Maybe if she was a brunette (4.00 / 8)
she would understand such complexities like the intellectual implications of hair color.

Please stop saying things that require me to defend Claire McCaskill.

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Not that I like reducing complex problems to hair color... (0.00 / 0)
...but imho this isn't worth a TR, even though MM is a conservative somewhat trolling our site...

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amen. (4.00 / 2)
i have always heard, though, that this is the knock on Feingold. that he's not effective because nobody likes him or some such. and people like Kennedy did manage to keep up all that "my good friend Sen. Evil" and still get legislation through.

part of it may be that Democrats have the big smile on the surface down pat, but they've forgotten about the knife underneath.

controversy means media coverage. nobody cares if you disagree. but if you're rude! gasp. suddenly you're on CNN. then in Season 2 you can mellow into a Senior Statesman, and you're at least a semi-regular thereafter.

not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.


Stop the Filibuster Four (0.00 / 0)
From the "Let It Pass" album, just before the Filibuster Four broke up . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

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isn't "Gentleman's Club" a euphemism for a strip joint? (4.00 / 4)
I gotta start watching C-SPAN

Quote (0.00 / 0)
As George Clooney said in Michael Clayton ...... we are so F'd!!!! .... in so many ways!!!

Insanity. (4.00 / 2)
the US congress is going to make us buy insurance from insurance companies that keep their anti-trust exemption?

the dementia of our "representatives" has moved to a new level.


"Collegial" or not -- (4.00 / 1)
-- I don't want to see another DLCer join Bayh, Lieberman, Landrieu, the Nelsons, Feinstein, Lincoln and the rest of that crew in the Senate.

Are any progressives in PA considering a run for Senate? (Obviously, I'm not using the word "progressive" in the sense that the DLC does in its Orwellianly-named, PNAC- and AEI-supporting, deregulate-and-privatize, pro-war, pro-NAFTA "Progressive (sic) Policy Insatitute" think tank.)


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