No Rep. Matheson, Blue Dogs don't wear the Democratic label

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Nov 24, 2009 at 16:56


Blue Dog leader Jim Matheson thinks that it isn't nice to question the Democratic credentials of Blue Dogs, because those Blue Dogs wear the Democratic label:

People should be wary of questioning Blue Dogs' credentials as Democrats, one of the group's co-chairmen said Tuesday.(...)

"I'll tell you what, by Blue Dogs running as Democrats, we face a handicap running in our districts," Matheson told CBS News's "Washington Unplugged" webcast.

"There are other people who, by running as Democrats, they automatically win," he said. "So I think that Blue Dogs are true Democrats because we wear that label even when it may actually affect us in a negative way in our elections -- we still wear that label."

OK, Matheson, let's put your claim to the test.  Do Blue Dogs wear the Democratic label?  Let's take a look at the campaign websites for the Blue Dog leadership:

Rep. Sandlin-Herseth: No mention of the word "Democrat" on her front page.  Instead, she describes herself as "Our Independent for South Dakota."  The word "Independent" is in bold-face.

Rep. Hill: Again, no mention of the word "Democrat" anywhere on the front page of his campaign website.  He does, however, put "reach across party lines," in bold-face, at the top of his accomplishments list.

Rep. Matheson: Again, no mention of the word "Democrat" on the front page.  He does, however, describe himself as "an effective and independent voice for Utahns."

Rep. Shuler: The word "Democrat" does actually appear on Shuler's front page--once.  In the "latest news" feed on the website, it reads "Buncombe County Democrats plan "United We Stand" rally -- Asheville Citizen-Times."  Shuler also does not refer to himself as an independent, so I guess he does a little better.

Way to wave the party flag, Blue Dogs.  They really wear the label on their sleeve.

But wait-there's more!  Let's look at front-page of the campaign websites of the twelve most endangered Blue Dogs (minus the already mentioned Baron Hill) according to Charlie Cook:

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  • Rep. Bright: No mention of the word "Democrat"

  • Rep. Griffith: Sports a logo saying he is a "Blue Dog, Conservative Democrat." Otherwise, no mention.

  • Rep. Mitchell: No mention of the word "Democrat."

  • Rep. Minnick: No mention.  He does, however, list "being as independent as Idaho" as his top issue.

  • Rep. Kratovil: Again, nope.  And again, the front page does say "America needs independent leaders who care more about the common good than about petty partisanship.

  • Rep. Childers: Childers actually does mention the word "Democrat" a lot, but all of the mentions are in his news feed.

  • Rep. Arcuri: One mention, claiming that "Arcuri Only Democrat Endorsed by The Central Upstate Business Political Action Committee "

  • Rep. Space: No mention.

  • Rep. Gordon: Couldn't find a campaign website, but his House website has nothing.

  • Rep. Tanner: Again, couldn't find a campaign website, but his House website has no mention of the word

  • Rep. Nye: No mention of the word "Democrat," but the banner headline tells us that Nye is "An Independent Voice."
Across all fifteen of these websites, there are only two instances where the word "Democrat" is used outside of a new feed.  The first comes from Parker Griffth, who proclaims that he is a conservative, Blue Dog Democrat.  The second is from Mike Arcuri, who notes that he is the only Democrat to be endorsed by a business PAC.

Other than that, every mention of the word Democrat comes from a news feed.  Many websites don't even mention the word in the news feed.  The word "Independent" is mentioned significantly more often.

So, even Matheson's lame defense of Blue Dogs being Democrats because they "wear that label," doesn't hold up.  They don't wear the label.  In fact, if one didn't know better, you would think that you were reading the websites of third-party candidates.  It is a pretty safe bet that is a feature, not a bug, of these Blue Dog websites.


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what's the dif? (0.00 / 0)
Democrats, Republicans, Blue Dogs....

What's the dif to Wall Street?

Why is it that any trip to any "public interest" web site [my own personal favorite being OpenSecret.org] clearly reveals that Wall Street is deeply embedded in the political careers of all Congressmen and Congresswomen---irrespective of the political, denominational "labels" they wear. Only a relatively small handful of legislators refuse to play this game.

Why do so many still approach big ticket economic legislation [like health care, finance reform, campaign reform, environmental and energy issues etc] as though these "labels" matter at all?

With respect to crony capitalism, the most powerful Democrats in Washington are virtually interchangable with the most powerful Republicans.

Their differences vis a vis Wall Street are tactical not strategic.

Yet over and again in the liberal media we bump into this perplexity about why the Democrats seem to be "selling out" to the Big Buckmeisters.

It has always been that way. It's just that the economic crisis [and the Wall Street bailout] has brought to the surface these relationships like never before.

That Obama and the Democrats were actually committed to changing the status quo in America's healthcare delivery system is more a reflection of just how dangerously out of control healthcare spending has become. And they are certainly willing to approach this from a more progressive direction than the reationaries. But, again, this is only a matter of degree not kind.



Degrees matter when you're in the oven n/t (4.00 / 3)


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in and out of it (0.00 / 0)
Yes, but the oven matters in a different way to those in rather than out of it. Or should.

And for those in it, the first order of business must be to recognize what the oven is. Who created it and for what purpose? How was it put together? And who benefits most from it?

Oh, and this: How can it it be torn down?


[ Parent ]
Lobbyist Dogs (4.00 / 1)
The Blue Dogs wouldn't want to be in the same room as FDR, LBJ or Truman for fear of getting commie germs

Why should we feel obligated to be loyal to the party (4.00 / 1)
when they aren't? Remember, half of them campaigned for Joe Lieberman when he lost the primary,including Obama and Clinton.

Why didn't he lose power as a result of being outside the party structure.  You complain about hegemony, but won't do anything to release yourselves of it.

My blog  


They campaigned for him in the primary (0.00 / 0)
Not after it.

[ Parent ]
No they campaigned after too (4.00 / 1)
and gave him back all his committee positions when he won.

My blog  

[ Parent ]
Excellent analysis (4.00 / 1)
I wonder what results will be obtained by assay of the progressive caucus and other groups of congressfolk by the same methods? I suspect the Red Moles (AKA Blue Dogs) will be outliers, but who really knows? Such language might correlate with the presumed security of the district or state for the party, too.  As always, more data please.

Even so, the beauty of this scenario is the utter clarity of the hypocrisy displayed by Mr. Matheson. It is so easily understandable that it has great potential to become a story in the M$M. Perhaps a Democratic Party member, or two, that actually use that "label" on their web pages might be so bold as to ask for an apology, or threaten to censure the guy?

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


If they pocket the Democratic cash, (2.00 / 2)
caucus with the Democratic Party, and accept the Democratic endorsement, they DO wear the Democratic label.  Fix YOUR party leadership.  If you can't afford a doctor, a veterinarian will do.

Watch the eliminationist rhetoric (0.00 / 0)
It's not cool when the left does it, either.

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of course corporatists deserve a place at the table (0.00 / 0)
also, fascists
also, hollow earth conspiracy nuts
also, Ron Paul

why not?  who needs good ideas when we have CONSENSUS


[ Parent ]
Uh, themann, pls check the rating you applied to that comment. (0.00 / 0)
Remember, we only trollrate really trollish comments here, personal insults, and commercial spamming...

[ Parent ]
But only in non-public ways (4.00 / 1)
I think your comment gets to the partisan root of the issue. They take the $ , the caucus, and endorsements, then pretend all that never happened.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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To be fair (0.00 / 0)
How often, and in what context, is the word "Democrat" used in any Democrat's campaign website?

I can't imagine needing to mention "Democrat" other than maybe "I'm a Democrat".

Perhaps you could post some examples of the usage of "Democrat" in the campaign websites of non-Blue Dog Democrats?


First Try (4.00 / 2)
Alan Grayson.

and second:
Mike Capuano

and third:
Joe Sestak

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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It's actually pretty telling (0.00 / 0)
Here's two New Democrats, both from Washington State:

Adam Smith

-- and --

Brian Baird

Guess which one continues to piss off his caucus leadership?


[ Parent ]
As independent as Idaho? (4.00 / 1)
Well, that explains why Minnick votes like a Republican.

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