Some links before the holiday…

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Nov 25, 2009 at 05:00


I'm taking a five day break from blogging for the holiday.  There will be plenty of content in my absence, I just won't be writing it.  Be sure to check in, if you need an escape from your holiday.

Before I go, here are some links to check out:

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Chris Bowers :: Some links before the holiday…
  • Looks like artic ice and glaciers are part of the Climategate conspiracy.  So nice of them to help out.

  • While the Senate will be focusing on health care after Thanksgiving, the House will focus entirely on the new jobs bill.  The leadership is aiming to pass it by December 18th, when Congress goes on recess for the next holidays.

    For the occasion, a new, actually bi-partisan jobs caucus has formed around the bill. I am always interested in new Congressional caucuses, but their ideas are a little strange:

    Kaptur, Rep. Candice Miller (R-Mich.) and Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.), the top three members of the Jobs Now Caucus, have all said they're open to using some of the roughly $600 billion left in stimulus money for new programs targeted specifically for job creation.

    Miller floated the proposal during a news conference last week introducing the caucus. Miller supports redirecting stimulus funds toward more infrastructure projects.

    They are really proposing using stimulus infrastructure money to pay for new infrastructure projects in the jobs bill?  Really?  That's entirely pointless.  It isn't even as silly as robbing Peter to pay Paul.  Its robbing Paul to pay Paul.

  • Speaker Pelosi also seems to get what the Obama administration seems a bit dense about-people want jobs more than they want deficit reduction.  Pelosi:

    "But I think if anybody is asked in the public, 'Would you rather have a job or a percentage of GDP or our national debt will go up a little bit?,' I think everybody wants a job."

    Good.  Unfortunately, the Obama administration is going to focus on deficit reduction next year.  This jobs bill is just about the last chance Democrats have to avoid getting crushed in 2010.

  • Speaking of global warming denial, there are moments when I wonder if conservatives really are more off-base than progressives.  Then, I remember that the majority of conservatives don't believe in either global warming or natural selection.  Its at that point that I remember we are dealing with people who aren't interested in a reasoned examination of the world.

  • Yes, the filibuster is bad.

    Let me further add that if the filibuster is not destroyed, the public policy passed in 2009 will be the most progressive policy we will see for at least one or two more decades.  If you are cool with that, then go ahead, defend the filibuster.  If you want more, then we need to start working to destroy it.

    And of course there are risks.  Yes, without a filibuster, Republicans will be able to pass more of their legislation once they regain control of the Senate and the White House.  However, that is a risk I am perfectly willing to take in order to at least have a chance to actually make significant progressive change happen before the kids I have not yet had are old enough to vote.

  • Over at FDL, Jon Walker notes that PhRMA is running ads urging Joe Lieberman to pass the health care bill as is.  Are they perhaps afraid of progressives blocking the health care bill?

    I suspect if PhRMA were 100% confident Joe Lieberman could successfully remove the public option and still ensure the rest of the bill would pass intact, they would be supporting his efforts. The fact that PhRMA is asking Lieberman not to fight indicates to me that they actually fear the possibility that the progressive block might kill the current bill because if it lacks a public option.

    Maaaybe.  But really, does anyone fear the Progressive Block on health care?  Or the Progressive Block on anything?  Even Ralph Nader refused to admit he was helping Republicans.  If Naderites aren't even going to admit they are willing to help defeat Democrats, and help Republicans, if their demands are not met, then why should we expect Progressives in Congress to do so?  There is something deeply embedded in the American progressive psyche that prevents them from ever admitting they will hurt Democrats, and help Republicans, in order to further their goals.

OK, that's it  I'm out of here for five days.  Catch everyone again on Monday.  Have a good holiday.

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Sens Durbin and Dorgan writing jobs bill (4.00 / 1)
From Roll Call intro of Nov. 19:

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and Democratic Policy Committee Chairman Byron Dorgan (N.D.) have been quietly trying to write a jobs bill that the Senate can act on early next year, underscoring the renewed emphasis Congressional Democrats are putting on the economy as 2009 comes to a close.

From a subscriber who passed on the full article, "Durbin said he and Dorgan teamed up to write the bill with the blessing of Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who has been leading the Senate's push to enact a health care reform bill before Christmas."

"He [Durbin] also said he is working closely with Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.), who is helping lead the House effort and lives in the same house as Durbin on Capitol Hill." Durbin refers to Miller in one of the pieces as his "landlord," and with seeing him every day, they talk about it often. "I talked to him about it last night. So we're going to try to make sure that we end up with similar or the same list."

An article in CQ Today for Nov. 18 by David Clark contains very similar content. Can't find that link, but this one on the House efforts contains Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's statements that emphasizes determination to get something done on jobs yet this year.

Most recently, from QC again [subs. req.]

Nov. 24, 2009, 3:46 p.m.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Tuesday that the need to spend more money on job creation should outweigh concerns about adding to the exploding deficit.



Bipartisan 'Jobs Now Caucus' (0.00 / 0)
So there are Republicans who now want to re-appropriate (implies reauthorize/approve of) the stimulus they vehemently opposed and have lobbied to repeal? Now my head is exploding...

"Don't take much, does it, elected Democrats, to get your balls tucked up." Cf.

"Even Ralph Nader refused to admit he was helping Republicans." (0.00 / 0)
Yes, how dare a non-Democrat run for office

talk about completely and utterly missing the point (n/t) (0.00 / 0)


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Fineman on Lieberman: Kill HCR entirely (0.00 / 0)
Last night on Countdown with Keith discussing Lieberman and health care, Fineman said the scuttle but he hears from Senate Democrats and sources "in the cloakroom" is that they believe Lieberman true goal is to kill HCR entirely. They believe Lieberman is a 'lost cause' and are seriously working Snowe/Collins to replace his vote.

Usual no named sources, no direct quote caveat applies, but hard to believe Fineman would throw that out without some real foundation.

"Don't take much, does it, elected Democrats, to get your balls tucked up." Cf.


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