Over 30 progressive groups say no to the Social Security commission

by: Chris Bowers

Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 05:00


Open Left has co-signed a letter opposing the creation of a national suicide pact independent commission tasked with writing legislation on Social Security and Medicare that Congress would be unable to debate or amend.  Sternly worded letters like these are not, in and of themselves, a particularly effective means of creating change.  They are, however, a way to start forming the outline of a coalition that will work together on a common cause.

This is actually the same principle behind online petitions.  Many of you have probably wondered if those petitions have any impact.  Some of them can: by getting media write-ups, by having a clever hook, by serving as a warning that more action is coming, by having particularly huge numbers, or in some other fashion.  Still, petitions tend not to be, in and of themselves, big difference makers.

However, they can function as a list of people who are likely to take other, more impactful, steps on the issue at hand.  And, as such, they serve the very important function of providing a framework for a netroots coalition.

This letter, which will be sent to all members of Congress, and all senior White House officials, serves the same function.  The signatories have begun the process of forming a coalition that can do more down the road.  Just as importantly, the members of Congress (especially the Democratic members of Congress) and administration officials who consider the coalition partners to be their allies know that a coalition is forming against this idea.  That is always the most important part of any petition or letter of this sort, at least when those petitions or letters are done with an intent of actually engaging a real fight.

The letter can be found in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Over 30 progressive groups say no to the Social Security commission
America Does Not Need An Undemocratic "Deficit Commission"

Wednesday, December 2, 2009

The following statement, signed by over 30 national organizations (see below) was written and distributed by Roger Hickey, co-director, Campaign for America's Future, and Nancy Altman and Eric Kingson, co-directors, Project to Defend and Improve Social Security.  This statement will be sent to:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid,
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi,
all members of the Senate and House,
and President Barack Obama (and key administration officials)

We write in strong opposition to proposals to create an entitlements or deficit-reduction commission that would override the normal legislative process and replace it with expedited procedures prohibiting amendments and limiting debate.

Those supporting this circumvention of the normal process have stated openly the desire to avoid political accountability.  Americans-seniors, women, working families, people with disabilities, young adults, children, people of color, veterans, communities of faith and others-expect their elected representatives to be responsible and accountable for shaping such significant, far-reaching legislation.

Any deficit reduction measures should be carried out in a responsible manner, providing a fairer tax system and strengthening-rather than slashing-Social Security, Medicare and other programs that are vital to the middle class." And as unemployment continues to grow, we need a real debate about how to balance the need for economic recovery and productive public investment with the goal of long-term budget responsibility. The American people are likely to view any kind of expedited procedure, where most members are sidelined to a single take-it-or-leave-it vote, as a hidden process aimed at eviscerating vital programs and productive investment.

As you know, the current effort to reform the health care sector seeks to achieve reductions in Medicare spending, without cutting benefits.  But the proposed budget commission-which will be viewed as a way to actually cut Medicare benefits, while insulating lawmakers from political fallout-could confuse people and undermine the reform effort. And an American public that only recently rejected privatization of Social Security will undoubtedly be suspicious of a process that shuts them out of all decisions regarding the future of a retirement system that's served them well in the current financial crisis.

We urge you to act decisively to prevent the creation of such an extraordinary and undemocratic budget commission.

Signed,
AFL-CIO - American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations
AFSCME - American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees
Alliance for Retired Americans
American Association of University Women
Americans for Democratic Action
Change to Win
Campaign for America's Future
Common Cause
Demos
Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund
Frances Perkins Center
Global Policy Solutions
Health & Medicine Policy Research Group
Mothers Initiative
MoveOn.org Political Action
NAACP
National Asian Pacific Center on Aging
National Association for Hispanic Elderly
National Association of Mother Centers
National Caucus and Center on Black Aged, Inc.
National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare
National Council of Women's Organizations
National Organization for Women
National Hispanic Council on Aging
National Senior Citizens Law Center
National Women's Law Center
OWL - The Voice of Midlife and Older Women
OpenLeft.com
Pathways PA
Pension Rights Center
People for the American Way
Progressive Democrats of America
Project to Defend and Improve Social Security
SEIU - Service Employees International Union
United Methodist General Board of Church & Society
USAction
Wider Opportunities for Women
Women's Institute for a Secure Retirement
The Women's Research and Education Institute


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I do appreciate you (4.00 / 1)
and the time and effort you put into trying to change the corrupt capitalist system we have and call a democracy.   It is why I help to fund OL (not as much as I would like).  I sent the obligatory email to my dumbass Democrats, signed Bernie's petition and a few others, and donated a few dollars to Bernie for being one of three in DC with any brains or integrity.    

So (4.00 / 1)
How do organizations get their name on the list?

And can state blogs get listed, or does OpenLeft represent us in some fashion?

Jeff Wegerson


E-mail Roger (4.00 / 1)
hickey@ourfuture.org

I am on an e-mail list in part organized by Roger, Nancy and Eric and they are actively soliciting organizations to sign on. In fact I am working with Nancy to get the word out to the blogosphere, including to Open Left. I don't know if Chris came across this because of my suggestion to Nancy but either way it is pretty gratifying to see some blogospheric sign-on. So feel free to pile on.


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Sign up form for organizations (0.00 / 0)
Turns out Roger has set up an online form for organizations to sign on to the letter.

http://action.ourfuture.org/t/...
and it looks like a better e-mail would be manager@ourfuture.org

Not that at the bottom of the sign-up form Roger has listed blog stories on this effort. If you put something up on your own blogs please send him the links.

BTW the organizers here are Roger Hickey, Nancy Altman and Eric Kingson. At least the latter two were stop staffers on the Greenspan Commission with Nancy being Greenspan's Executive Asst. So these people are serious inside players and not just some names on a petition.


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Still (4.00 / 4)
There is still no crisis in Social Security.  Plenty of problems elsewhere so move along.

Incidently, Corrente made the smart observation that it was FDR and LBJ who prevented a depresssion by keeping the economy going through Social Security, Unemployment Insurance (both FDR) and Medicare (LBJ).  Not Bernanke and Geithner, the swaggering duo and certainly not Wall Street ehich is panting to get its mitts on our monies.


a lot to be said (0.00 / 0)
For the automatic stabilizers.

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Any Dem that backs this needs to leave the Party (0.00 / 0)
This is beyond the pale - is there nothing that is sacred to these people?  This is gonna make health care look like a cake walk.

Looking at the list of those who signed the letter beware (0.00 / 0)
Folks:

Be aware the Unions will cave on this if the Big O Administration puts pressure on them.  Just like the Public Option in the ongoing Health Care Reform debate where they are caving as we speak the Unions value their access to the White House more than they do their members' best interests.


And if you let this happen we'll ... (2.67 / 3)
we'll ... we'll, uh, write you another letter.

No stick.  Pathetic

Full Court Press!  http://www.openleft.com/showDi...


If you're going to complain (4.00 / 4)
you should complain about what Chris said, not what he didn't say:

Sternly worded letters like these are not, in and of themselves, a particularly effective means of creating change.  They are, however, a way to start forming the outline of a coalition that will work together on a common cause.

If you want to dispute the second point, that's fine, but you should at least acknowledge the first point. If our side hasn't come together, how will they wield a stick?

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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The House - Pass a clean limit increase and adjourn (4.00 / 2)
The House should just wait until the deadline, pass a clean debt limit increase and adjourn.

...Adding, this is about more than just the issue at hand. As we watch the Senate take over HCR and, at best, pass what will surely be a fragile, 60-vote, take-it-or-leave-it bill, the House must find ways to reassert itself as an equal chamber. This debt limit showdown is one place where the the efficiency of House rules give it some advantage. It can act quickly and decisively at a time certain. They should do so and give the Senate a take-it-or-leave-it ultimatum. Two can play that game...

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


wouldn't it be helpful for these 30 groups to collect 100,000 signatures? (0.00 / 0)
i'm pretty sure you could.  that's 3,000 each on an issue that's been the third rail of american politics for over a generatio.  if you got the aarp involved, they could probably do it themselves.  

otherwise you open yourself up to charges of 'unaccountable' leaders who 'aren't speaking for anyone' when in fact, you are, in this case.


"our side" comes together all the time (0.00 / 0)
... and complains, and then goes home to wait for the next atrocity.  It's the same cast of characters, and there is no reason to think they'll do anything different this time because they all have their stake in the party structure, one way or another.

Full Court Press!  http://www.openleft.com/showDi...

That's not coming together (0.00 / 0)
Our side looks nothing like it did in earlier areas, when there were strong interconnections between liberal groups and between the party and those groups that reinforced each other. Our side also looks nothing like the other side, where those interconnections are even stronger.  


Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

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