The big-picture mistake--Afghanistan Is just the tip of the iceberg

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 15:00


When all the talk is said and done, one thing remains perfectly clear: Obama may have changed the name of the war on terrorism, but he hasn't changed anything else. It's still the fundamental framework for US foreign policy, and because it is, it's important for us to understand just how utterly foolish and self-destructive that framework is.  Not to mention how that framework is related to the elite plan to destroy America's middle class, and return us to the Dark Ages, when human life for all but the elite was indeed, "nasty, brutish, and short".

Self & Other

To do so, I'd like to start by taking not one, but two steps back to take in the big picture.  One of the widespread themes of 20th Century social science is that the self is constituted or created in tandem with the not-self, or the other.  In psychology, Freud gave us the Oedipal conflict and Jung gave us the shadow, and every level of analysis up from their-social psychology, small group psychology, small group sociology, mass sociology, cultural anthropology, you name it, has developed its own versions, its own ways of describing and/or analyzing this phenomena.  At every level of analysis, the social scientists tell us some version of the same truth: we are who we are at least partially by virtue of who we are not-and this is a process that will magnify small differences or even manufacture them if real ones cannot be found.  Because we define ourselves primarily in contrast to others close at hand, we also often blind ourselves to how much we have in common, as well.

So that's the picture two steps back.  What does that mean for us?  It means we need to look at ourselves as a nation, and realize that the need for self-definition creates the need for others who are "other".

Paul Rosenberg :: The big-picture mistake--Afghanistan Is just the tip of the iceberg
The Cold War Other

Taking one step forward, we can see this specifically by looking at how this worked during the Cold War.  The official dogma was that the US and USSR were polar opposites, the antithesis of one another.  And yet many people around the world had great difficulty in telling us apart. We were both industrialized superpowers that poured enormous resources into the machinery of military dominance.  We were both nations originally founded as birthplaces of revolution-the US as the first revolutionary state that broke out of colonial control, the USSR as the first revolutionary state that broke out of capitalist control.  And yet both had incredibly bloody histories of mass murder. The Stalinist USSR had its show trials, purges and famines that left tens of millions dead.  The "democratic" US had the genocide of hundreds of Native American nations, and millions of individual Native Americans.

Indeed, as I've noted on various different occasions, there were two distinctly different visions offered at the dawn of the Cold War, as were described in the remarkable paper, "Kennan's Long Telegram and NSC-68: A Comparative Analysis," East European Quarterly, Vol. 31, no. 4, January 1998, by Efstathios T. Fakiolas.  As I in "Where's Obama? Questioning v Reinforcing [Foreign Policy] CW #3 (Political Duality of Rep v Dem 6c)":

Fakiolas used the framework of foreign policy realism for his analysis, but he determined that the two documents employed significantly different models within that tradition.  Although they seemed to many people to be kindred documents, Fakiolas uncovers striking differences.  I'm going to do a separate diary delving deeper into his argument, but the bottom line for us now is this:  Kennan's Long Telegram and Nitze's NSC-68 appear similar, they depend on different models of international relations within the same realist tradition.

Kennan relied on the "tectonic plates" model, in which there many other non-state actors, the world is not "zero-sum," and there is often opportunity for mutual cooperation.  Nitze relied on the billiard ball model, which sees the international system as "composed solely of egoistic sovereign states interested in maximizing their relative power capabilities at the expense of others," and sees "world politics is a 'zero-sum' game in which national security conceived of in military and territorial terms is the one and only states' national objective."

As a result, Kennan favored a strategy of containment that emphasized strengthening the West socially, economically and culturally, addressing its flaws which the Soviets exposed.  In contrast, Nitze ignored issues of the West's internal flaws, and focused almost exclusively on military force to combat the Soviet Union.

It's my own observation, based on this analysis, that we fought Nitze's Cold War, but we won Kennan's.  It was not, in the end, our military strength that defeated the Soviet Union, it was the appeal of our culture of openness and freedom. [Emphasis added.]

Unfortunately, a side-effect of fighting Nitze's Cold War was precisely the convergence of the US and USSR that I describe above.  By seeing the Soviet Union through the simplified lens of being our other-rather than seriously concentrating on what we stood for-or at least claimed and ought to stand for--and how to strengthen that, we intensified our similarities, and not at all in a good way.

British scholar-activist Mary Kaldor even went so far as to write an entire book The Imaginary War: Understanding the East-West Conflict describing this conflict as applied to Europe in which similarities in cutting off alternative paths of more human-oriented development predominate on both sides.  A synopsis of her book explains:

The division of Europe has been a dominating feature of the international political order for 40 years. Now all is changing as established political alignments crumble and new social and political movements gain ground and, in some cases, even come to power. This book explains the background to these dramatic changes in the international system. The author presents an alternative account of the Cold War, arguing that what has been experienced in Europe since the war cannot be described as peace, but rather as a state of imaginary war, where "deterrence" is not a mechanism for avoiding war, but a means to sustain the political hegemony of the US and the USSR. The author aims to demonstrate the profound effect the imaginary war has had on patterns of social and economic development in Europe, limiting them to models provided by the two superpowers. She goes on to examine the prospects and choices for the future including the need for demilitarization, East-West cooperation, an increased self-determination, and the important role of social movements on such issues as the environment, peace, women and human rights.

Outside of Europe, the consequences were considerably more dire.  One such example was our support for the mujahadeen in order to give the USSR their own Vietnam in Afghanistan.  Locked into fighting the Soviets-so much like ourselves that it's downright eerie-we never imagined that the mujahadeen would ever amount to anything beyond the borders of Afghanistan.  And, indeed, both we and our Israeli allies followed a similar logic in promoting religious extremists as rivals of the secular PLO.  So long as we had a secular military superpower as our other, we were blind to virtually everything else.  Heck, throughout the Reagan era, there was a constant drum-beat echoed throughout Versailles, of the rightwing fantasy that the Soviets were behind all the significant terrorism in the world. All terrorism was "state-sponsored terrorism", according to this view, and state behind it all was the USSR, sometimes with cut-outs (Bulgaria was a real favorite), sometimes without.

A New Other/World War Order

But now we have a new world war order-the war on terror order, regardless of how Obama chooses to change the rhetoric.  And with the new world war order comes a new other-the jihadist other.

This is a more nuanced situation, since, of course, we are neck deep in our own Christian jihadists.  Furthermore, as Benjamin Barber explained so perceptively in Jihad vs. McWorld, global neoliberalism and ethno-religious jihadism are symbiotic enemies, feeding on one another's voids, and synergizing in eroding the power of civic republicanism/social democracy to actually meet real human needs and thereby marginalize and/or constrain them both.

In a sense, both Jihad and McWorld can be understood as each other's Jungian shadow, both incapable of recognizing the fact.  On the extreme, neoliberalism is a religious doctrine that ignores the empirical evidence of it's own limitation and failures-so vividly illustrated in the financial crises which precipitated the Great Recession, but also evident in the stagnation of global development, as well as the looming catastrophe of global warming.  At the same time, Jihadism is very much a this-worldly political/economic endeavor which routinely violates core religious precepts (common to all Axial-age religions) of inner-direction, respect for the life and personhood of others, and concern for the eternal as opposed to the temporal.

If we understand the war on terror in these terms, then it is obvious why we should see militarism advanced under Obama with only modestly more nuance than under Bush post-2006 midterms, as well as why it should entirely overshadow any serious effort to redress America's domestic problems, which continue to be entirely subsumed to perpetuating the profitability of neoliberal corporate interests.  Obama is, quite literally, the continuing of Bush, after Bush's mid-course correction to shed the more immediately disastrous aspects of his policy.

Domestically, it becomes all the more evident that neoliberal Dems and wingnut GOP jihadists are but a domestic analogue of the global self/other pairing of the War on Terror World Order.  Neither is concerned with meeting human needs, precisely because both of them depend upon providing ersatz substitutes, as the source of their power over the people that they keep deprived and thereby dependent opon them.

Of course there is a genuine asymmetry between the two.  The jihadists really are batshit crazy.  But their core constituency is also fundamentally far more deprived.  The McWorlders are superficially more rational-they make a show of rational processes.  But on even the most casual inspection, that show falls apart into the most ludicrous of Marx Brothers farces.  And so it is that the most heinous criminals in world history are bailed out by America's taxpayers while millions of ordinary Americans are driven from their homes, because they need to be taught lessons about "personal responsibility" and in order to not set a bad example for others.

The REAL Road To Serfdom, Designed By Hayek's Followers, No Less

Up next: the wholesale looting of America's already-undersized welfare state.  Why?  Because, as small-time bank robber Willie Sutton would say, "That's where the money is," as Ryan Grim points out at HuffPo--"Bernanke Channels Willie Sutton In Assault On Social Security: 'That's Where The Money Is'":

Ben Bernanke has overseen the greatest expansion of the Federal Reserve's balance sheet in its history, pouring trillions of dollars into Wall Street firms at roughly zero interest rates.

His generosity, however, has a limit.

In testimony before the Senate Banking Committee today, where he's seeking re-appointment as the Fed's chairman, Bernanke called for cutbacks in Medicare and Social Security even as unemployment rises and the middle class is endangered.

Citing legendary bank robber Willie Sutton, Bernanke said of the retirement and health care funds that are the legacy of the New Deal: "That's where the money is."

Sen. Bob Bennett (R-Utah) sympathized with Bernanke, saying that, because of entitlement spending, "you're going to be looking at a situation where the Congress will be unable to provide any kind of fiscal discipline because of the mandatory spending. That puts an enormous burden on your plate."

"Well, Senator, I was about to address entitlements," Bernanke replied. "I think you can't tackle the problem in the medium term without doing something about getting entitlements under control and reducing the costs, particularly of health care."

Bernanke reminded Congress that it has the power to repeal Social Security and Medicare.

"It's only mandatory until Congress says it's not mandatory. And we have no option but to address those costs at some point or else we will have an unsustainable situation," said Bernanke.

And so it is that the two great Satans conspire together to return us to the long Dark Ages in which the great masses of humanity lived in squalor, barely above the level of comfort enjoyed by animals.  That is the future that both Jihadists (Christian as well as Muslim, domestic as well as foreign) and McWorlders (Democratic as well as Republica) are working towards.  That is their version of the earthly paradise.

No wonder they hate us DFHs so much.  We want lives worth living.  How dare we?

How dare we?


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A thought on *why* they want this (4.00 / 6)
Which ties in to my last diary well too - they assume everyone roughly thinks like them.  If they don't seek absolute power in what they imagine as a zero-sum world, others will wrest it from them.  It's really self-fulfilling.  

Despite the presence of the Affluent Societies of the West, where wealth has been more broadly distributed than any other time in post-hunter/gatherer human history, they still don't believe this is either possible or sustainable at a global level.  It's always going to come down to some big struggle for the last donut in the box.


Right (4.00 / 5)
And this is the principle difference--or at least a principle difference between the Democratic base and the center-right power center of Democratic elites, going back as far as the eye can see.  It's not just the GOP on the other side, it's the majority of all elite actors.

And since the wealthy are always entitled to get wealthier, just by virtue of being wealthy, then whenever the belts must be tightened, it's always the rest of us whose waists have got to be squeezed.


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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We dare (4.00 / 2)
Yes we do.

And we always will.

It is the heart of the human condition. Compassion.


You correctly point out the scope of the problem (4.00 / 2)
And what is the scope of the solution?  Is actually hurting the Democrats eternally off the table?  If what you see as their plan is a true threat, what is the difference between the Democrats and Republicans? The Democrats would have us living on nuts and berries while the Republicans would insist on an all-red-meat diet?  If Weimar leads to Hitler ...

You may be growing weary of me, but I am growing weary with progressive refusal to play hardball.  You toy with a primary challenge to Obama for 2012, that's good.  But how would you make this happen?  What are you demanding?  And how would you enforce your demands?

I have some ideas.  I'm open to better ones.  I really don't want to personally lead anything.  But chrissakes, then give me something to follow!

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There's Plenty Of Work To Go Round (4.00 / 3)
I'm trying to concentrate on what I think I do best.

It's not to say that other things don't need to be done. Obviously they do.

But there's always value in getting clear about the big picture.  It helps folks to self-organize the more they share a common framework of understanding.

AS for organizing, I've got much stronger feelings about what doesn't work than I do about what does.  A number of different strategies might be equally worth considering.  Which is why I will promote your recent diary this evening, so we can talk more about that then.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Are the "DFH's" (0.00 / 0)
by now anything more than a fringe specialty, like the way Harold Bloom says real readers of literature for the sheer love of it are by now?

I look at the way health care has turned out, the way the war is going, the way environmentalism's been for a long time, and forget about civil liberties or the banks...

Across the board it looks like not just the Dem establishment but most activists, even most of the blogosphere, seem to be corporatists first and foremost.

Sure, they want corporatism with a human face. But just to go with the health care example, it seemed like the number of people who have any kind of problem with the very existence of the insurance racket (an excellent example because it's a rare example of such a pure parasite which produces literally nothing but cost and complexity) is pretty miniscule. And yet that's the key to the whole position. You can't have real reform without fixing that.

Yet there was so little resistance to the hijacking of the whole process.

Unless, of course, by now the very concept "reform" has been diluted to the level of corporatism with a slightly less keen razor's edge.

I don't know, from my point of view, as someone who reviles both corporatism and religious fundamentalism (in America they're on the same side anyway), it doesn't look like there's much left between them but a shell-cratered dead zone.

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Bloom's Wrong And So Are You (4.00 / 2)
I think Bloom's problem is probably male chauvinism, pure and simple.  I saw Jane Smiley at the LA Library earlier this year, and among other things, she commented about how many more women read serious novels than men do.  I think the readers that Smiley is tuned into simply don't exist for Bloom.

And I think something similar--though much more nuanced--is going on with you as well.

Just because folks aren't screaming "death the insurance companies" 24/7 doesn't mean they don't think it.

The problem is less in what people think than in what they think is worth talking about in the short term.  And that's largely a function of perceived power structures.

Which is part of the reason why I write diaries like this--to try to get up above that level and criticize it from above.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Well, (0.00 / 0)
much to my displeasure, I've been correct across the board on everything that's happened this year (except for my briefly being sucked in by the "progressive block" scam). So while I appreciate your flat, unevidenced assertion that I'm "wrong", I'll certainly take that for what it's worth.

Do you have evidence for that, or is it just a hunch? It sure looks counter to the visible evidence.  

If even movement activists have the mindset that it's not even worth talking about first principles, but rather rush right into extremely-low-bar pre-emptive self-negotiations (where no real opponent even exists except oneself) like what brought us to this health racket debacle, then I'd say the situation's pretty dire.

And after eight years of Bush, too, when it's unfathomable to me that anyone could've been in a mood to compromise, if they really wanted to accomplish anything. But it's just been compromise across the board, and not just from the top down, so far as I can see.

If you're saying everyone thinks something but no one's willing to act upon it, and the key is to find out how to liberate those thoughts into action, OK.

But given how many politically aware people still deny there's even much of a problem here ("sure, it's a crap bill, but we can crawl and grovel to some unelected administrator to let a handful more people into the public option by 2014!"), those thoughts must really be buried deep.



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Precisely! (0.00 / 0)
If you're saying everyone thinks something but no one's willing to act upon it, and the key is to find out how to liberate those thoughts into action, OK.

Although I wouldn't actually say "everyone."  But I would say an awful lot of people.

And in that sense, the Afghanistan escalation just may, perversely, turn out to be a good thing, notwithstanding the fact that's certainly a very bad thing, too.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Progressives, too, have a need to define the other (0.00 / 0)
I've argued in the past that progressives spent too much time defining themselves in opposition to specifically religious conservatives, and not enough to corporatists and warhawks, perhaps because the religious conservatives get more publicity.

I've felt sad that it seemed to take an idiotic war in Iraq or an economic downturn with the potential to rival the Great Depression to get people as hopping mad as they do about every little thing to do with abortion (or maybe the pro-choice movement just has better PR).  That's not to say that I necessarily think progressives should abandon a pro-choice stance, just that I think the progressive priorities appear messed up due to a particular conception of "the other".

Progressives have just as much of a need for self-definition as any other group and, as you say, that creates a need for others who are other.  Arguably, the progressive movement suffers from not having a unifying "other" to rally against.  I predicted that George W. Bush would only be a temporary unifying factor and that after he is out of office, the left will probably devolve into in-fighting.  On the other hand, the American right-wing has been very successful at defining Obama as the other and so there is the much discussed "enthusiasm gap", which I attribute as much, if not more, to conservative-leaning voters being riled by and activated, as to the Democratic base being depressed.  

Talk within the lefty blogosphere about Obama and challenging him from the left can be seen as a debate on whether or not progressives should view Obama as "other".  Personally, I think it is ridiculous to lump everyone to the right of progressives as a monolithic conservative movement, but I do understand the psychological need of some progressives to do so.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both


Not Exactly (4.00 / 1)
First off, all groups do not have "just as much of a need for self-definition as any other group".  Some have greater needs than others, and conservatives definitely do have greater needs than progressives do.  There is actual empirical social science literature about this.

Second, there's a difference between reacting to a particular group and defining your group identity in opposition to them.  You are assuming the two process are the same, when in fact the relationship is a complicated one that needs to be examined empirically.

Third, you've really got to make up your mind.  Are you for progressives oranizing themselves against "corporatists and warhawks":

I've argued in the past that progressives spent too much time defining themselves in opposition to specifically religious conservatives, and not enough to corporatists and warhawks, perhaps because the religious conservatives get more publicity.

or against:

Talk within the lefty blogosphere about Obama and challenging him from the left can be seen as a debate on whether or not progressives should view Obama as "other".  Personally, I think it is ridiculous to lump everyone to the right of progressives as a monolithic conservative movement...

Until I get an answer, my group identity is "confused."

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I think it is possible (0.00 / 0)
To place Obama in a category that is neither progressive nor corporatist/warhawk instead of taking a "you're either with us or against us" mentality.

Right now, I think that progressives are doing the equivalent of fighting on too many fronts and that there needs to be a narrowing of priorities.  The left currently seems too reactive.  There's no long-term strategy because there's no solid definition of the core of a progressive soul (or at least none that I like).

I am for progressives deciding if they should organize against corporatists or against warhawks or against social conservatives.  We might be able to bundle two of those together, but I think it is a mistake to roll all three into one giant category and try to fight all things at once.



Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both


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My Bad Guys (4.00 / 2)
I think the phrase you are looking for is "your bad guys are worse than my bad guys."

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See My Diary Coming Tomorrow (0.00 / 0)
Oh, the serendipity!  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Dollhouse (0.00 / 0)
I just watched the first hour of yesterday's Dollhouse when I wrote that.  (Still haven't seen the second, don't say anything.)  It occurred to me that the L.A. branch of Dollhouse is a good analogy for Obama and the Democratic part.  I figured you'd notice the quote.  

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How Can You Watch Just One? (0.00 / 0)
I can't even wait to watch the DVR.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Among other things (4.00 / 4)
Obama appears to lack an imagination. That is, a REAL imagination, that doesn't crib and steal from others ("Audacity of Hope", "Fierce Urgency of Now", "Fired Up, Ready to Go!"). And I'm not just talking about rhetoric, but ideas and policy, which have been virtual copies of, alternately, boilerplate 60's radicalism (when he's speaking to progressives and the lower classes, who served as his grassroots operatives during the campaign), 70's-90's limousine liberalism (when speaking to aging yuppies, who raised lots of money for him and helped him co-opt the Clinton machine), 90's-00's neoliberalism (when speaking to corporate titan types, without whose gynormous donations he could not have won), and even 60's-00's neoconservatism (to co-opt the Cheneys and Kristols out there who keep setting landmines in his path). About the only ones he's not trying to appeal to are wingnuts, which is probably shrewd since they're unreachable, and by themselves they'll never be too big a threat--thus the need to capture everyone else.

Anyway, he is a politician's politician, in the worst, most inauthentic and unflattering sort of way, with a genius for knowing what people want to hear and being able to say it, and a proclivity for promoting policies that are depressingly non-radical and non-threatening to the establishment--even when the rhetoric and policy are fundamentally at odds (e.g. saying that he's "for" the public option while in no way actually fighting for it). He says and does exactly what he thinks he needs to say and do to win over those people that he thinks he needs to win over, as opposed to because it's what he believes in and thinks is right--because he appears to believe in nothing (other than his own power and popularity) and have no concept of what is right. A completely reactive politician, but brilliantly so.

And that "brilliance" is beginning to wear thin, politically.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


I Might (4.00 / 1)
use a bit different phraseology here or there, but I completely agree with all the main points you are making here, Kovie.

I just keep thinking of Philip K. Dick and his damn simulacra.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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"Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." (4.00 / 1)
...  But it will be significantly redefined by a politician who uses Lincoln as a brand extension.

This article is a great example of why I love this site.  Thank you.

While Bernanke and the Fed are great examples, I think that XE (Blackwater) might be an even better example of the end product produced by neoliberal policies.  The more layers of that onion get removed, the more one sees that it is not just a corporation.  It is all similar corporations, fused with the Military industrial complex, and any nation that wants to use politically unacceptable force with plausible deniability.
It effectively completes the process of unleashing the dogs of war from the accountability of governments and their citizens.
 We DFH's used to talk of elevating the standards of living of the rest of the world. The neoliberal is all about flattening (or leveling) the earth.

For me, this is why Afghanistan is just the tip of the iceberg.  I see Xe and its tentacles as the "Business end" of our corporations crossing the American empire's Rubicon.  There's not a lot any one can do to stop them, and politicians can easily claim that they aren't responsible for what a corporation does...  Even if we're asking them to do it.


Quite True (4.00 / 3)
Me, I just gut-level think of Blackwater as the Hessians we fought against in the Revolutionary War.

I don't know about you, but when I was in grade school (no high-school dropouts were going to miss out on this lesson, thank you very much) the heinousness of the Hessians was something that was drilled into our pointy little heads--and without much trouble, I might add.  The idea that people would try to kill our patriot forebearers just because they were paid to made us all pretty mad the first time we heard about it.

And so I just have to ask, "What the fuck is America doing with Hessians?"

Full disclosure:  I'm even more pissed because in fifth grade I was one of the vast majority of my classmates from about five different classes of 5th-graders altogether who were forced to enact the part of the Hessians in an all-school re-enactment of various historical episodes.  And every single one of us just hated it.  It's one of those memories that just doesn't fade with time.

So I ask again, with special vehemence, "What the fuck is America doing with Hessians?"

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I believe Xe is different and worse (0.00 / 0)
I feel the same way about the Hessians, but if you follow Jeremy Scahill, I think the differences are fairly important.

Americans might see why after the corporate goal is achieved...  Under whatever logo or acting CEO they adopt in the future.

"Our corporate goal is to do for the national security apparatus what FedEx did to the Postal Service."

- Erik Prince CEO of Blackwater USA

...  I expect he meant to say that as patriotically as possible (if it's possible).


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Nah (0.00 / 0)
They're exactly what the Hessians would be in this day and age.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Mmm.... (4.00 / 5)
I agree with both of you. My only caveat is to note that the quote from Erik Prince seems to indicate that what he's after is a bit more like the Praetorian Guard of the late empire, after it became a force largely composed of Germans loyal not to the emperor, but to their own commanders. In the beginning, of course this was fine with the Romans who actually had the wit to notice it -- they'd long since gotten used to paying for military services, and believed in the power of money to bind otherwise disinterested barbarians to their cause. Then one morning they woke up oand discovered that they'd acquired a German emperor.

Erik Prince may be too stupid to pull off a coup like that, but funding divided loyalties on a scale as large as we've been doing since we ended the draft iis likely to have consequences that are both extremely unpredictable, and extremely dangerous to those of us who still think of ourselves as citizens rather than consumers.


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Erik Prince may be too stupid (4.00 / 3)
to pull it off by himself, but the scary thing is that he's far from "by himself". My sense of things is that there are much smarter people (let's call them "evil geniuses") who profit from Prince in both power and money, and who will simply continue to manipulate him and the manpower/infrastructure that he provides in any way they see fit toward an ever more frightening end game.

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I'm no judge of intellect, but Prince has certainly got access to Intelligence (0.00 / 0)
You make a great point.
I don't know how smart Eric Prince is, but you're right about him being far from by himself. He's got Cofer Black and Adam Ciralsky, a CIA lawyer who just wrote the piece on him for Vanity Fair, among many others.
 

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I agree that Praetorian is closer (0.00 / 0)
However, I think that if you're looking for what Prince is aiming at you can take a hint from the Corporations new name, "Xe."  I believe he is thinking more along the lines Xenophon, mercenary, historian, philosopher and probable oligarch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X...

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When you're fighting a war (4.00 / 2)
that's not supported by the people, you have no choice. The need for Hessians should've been Obama's first clue.

Montani semper liberi

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Excellent diary (4.00 / 1)
As usual - that's sincere, not derisive.

Anyway, I agree with everything you said and want to highlight the fact that we should consider the war on terror is the new cold war.

I read with interest the diary and comments, barely stopping, until something Anthony de Jesus said:

I think the progressive priorities appear messed up due to a particular conception of "the other".

Progressives have just as much of a need for self-definition as any other group and, as you say, that creates a need for others who are other.

This is the Marx-Hegel dialectic: the solution contains the seeds of its discontent (thesis - antithesis - synthesis).

I know about this because I studied Sociology and got a master's degree in it, but for the record and to refresh my memory I googled Marx-Hegel dialectic and found this on some kind of a religious site named Kjos ministries - http://www.crossroad.to/index....

http://www.crossroad.to/articl...
(pub. date 2005)

Hegel's dialectic is the tool which manipulates us into a frenzied circular pattern of thought and action. Every time we fight for or defend against an ideology we are playing a necessary role in Marx and Engels' grand design to advance humanity into a dictatorship of the proletariat. The synthetic Hegelian solution to all these conflicts can't be introduced unless we all take a side that will advance the agenda. The Marxist's global agenda is moving along at breakneck speed. The only way to completely stop the privacy invasions, expanding domestic police powers, land grabs, insane wars against inanimate objects (and transient verbs), covert actions, and outright assaults on individual liberty, is to step outside the dialectic. This releases us from the limitations of controlled and guided thought.

Yikes, the last couple sentences notwithstanding, modern Progressives, that's us, are busy defining ourselves as other than Obama. The humanist, ie, liberal soul, in me makes allowances - people have a social contract with each other and trust and believe in the other's goodness. It is a learning experience to give up the other.

So, let's let the long view go by the wayside, which means we don't have to figure out now what will become of civil society 20 or 30 years from now before deciding how to respond to the Obama debacle. Let's just be aware of how much our next steps are reactionary - as other to Obama, and by that I mean the whole excursion into electing him - and try to focus instead on next steps that advance traditional Progressive aims. I was going to say social and economic justice, but do we even know what Progressive aims are?

Ok, health care for all is a progressive cause, that's justice, correct? What we have before is not health care for all. It is incremental change. It might be all we can ever hope to achieve. So, forget the dialectic, forget the self-other dichotomy, but by all means possible elect politicians who do what they say they'll do.

That's my two cents.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

George Santayana, The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905


Yes, (4.00 / 1)
we need to change the culture while fighting a holding action in the flawed game of electoral politics.

we don't have to change the culture (4.00 / 1)
People create culture. We only have to change ourselves, and recruit others.

Using a dialectical approach, culture changes as more and more people in it become aligned and share priorities.

Check out this website I stumbled upon. It makes it all seem possible. I for one, after reading parts of it, am going to be more aware of the dialectics operating in my daily life.

http://home.igc.org/~venceremo...
link to What the Heck is Dialectics..

http://home.igc.org/~venceremo...
link to this essay:
How to Make a Difference

Dialectics teaches that there will not be a fundamental change in U.S. policy unless the forces pushing for such a change become powerful enough to overcome the forces supporting the current U.S. policy. Hopefully the many examples in this web site show that a qualitative change can only come about when quantitative changes--bit by bit--build up to a turning point. ...


Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

George Santayana, The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905


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