Joss Whedon's 'Dollhouse' obliquely asks--will the real Barack Obama please stand up?

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sun Dec 06, 2009 at 20:20


After a torturous November hiatus, Joss Whedon's Dollhouse returned for a double episode on Friday with a timing that was downright eerie in my book.  The really sucky news is that Fox used the hiatus to announce it was canceling the show after the end of the season.  I never did understand why Joss went with Fox again after the way they shafted Firefly, but alas, such is life.  Someone just give him his own cable channel already.  He could oversee a full lineup with the crew of writers and showrunners he's mentored over the years.

His first series, Buffy, The Vampire Slayer, was first incarnated as a movie that began with fairly simple premise, a classic tale of the young hero's calling, but with a twist-the hero is a cheerleader in Southern California high school.  It was also an overt response to a decade of reactionary slasher movies.  Buffy  turned the tables.  She was the one doing the most serious slashing.  The series then expanded from this premise.

Dollhouse is in many ways an opposite to Buffy.  Its protagonist-Echo--is the most un-agenty person imaginable-not really a person at all.  A blank slate.  An empty body, wiped clean of memory, personality, self.  A "doll".  While Buffy discovered herself to be embedded in an institutional structure of good fighting evil-which she increasingly rebelled against-Echo does not discover anything, at least for quite some time, but we discover her to be embedded in what looks to be the most extreme fantasy version of a slavery ring...even though it's "only" for a limited five-year period.  The "dollhouse" she lives in is revealed to be but one of many in different cities, all covert properties of a very public and powerful biomedical company, Rossum Corporation.  (The term "robot" first appeared in a 1921 play by Czech science fiction writer Karel Capek, R.U.R. (Rossum's Universal Robots)--although the robots were more like what would become known androids.)

Usually when writing about tv, I try to avoid spoilers, even writing about old shows, but there's no way to write about what mattered to me most here without writing about spoilers-so you have been warned!

So, that out of the way, where to begin?  

Paul Rosenberg :: Joss Whedon's 'Dollhouse' obliquely asks--will the real Barack Obama please stand up?
With Daniel Perrin, the relatively new character, a third-generation US Senator who suddenly leaps to the center of the action, with a smattering of characteristics that remind one of Barack Obama, despite being quite white and quite old money? Nah, too sudden, and lacking in context.

So, first off, let's just note that Whedon is a political writer in the same way that most great writers are-because politics is part of who we are as social critters.  Our personal lives are lived within larger webs of shared meaning, purpose, conflict and struggle.  And Whedon doesn't just write about personal lives, he's a creator of worlds, a moral fantasist who creates imagined realities that partly mimic, and partly contrast with our own.  And that tension of mimicry and contrast interacts with the personal stories he tells to create tales of unusual complexity while retaining a surface simplicity that makes them enjoyable and appreciable to younger viewers as well.

From the very beginning we're presented with a contradictory world.  The blatantly immoral, much less illegal enterprise is peopled by a mix of characters, several of whom clearly have some sort of moral sense, and are presented as appealing, if conflicted characters, including Boyd Langton, Echo's "handler", who watches over her during her "missions" and Adelle DeWitt, the head of the Los Angeles dollhouse.  With Buffy, the initially black-and-white good-vs-evil world is progressively blurred.  With Dollhouse, it's more the other way around-the murkiness is gradually somewhat clarified into more distinct elements of good and evil, even as new forms of murkiness are introduced. One major form of murkiness lurks in the background, as we're told various times by Dewitt that the Dollhouse is a business, but that it has a purpose beyond being a business, a purpose never explained beyond that-and possibly one that Dewitt has been mislead about.

Which brings us to Perrin and this week's double episode.  On the very same week that Obama's Afghanistan War speech strips away the last vestiges of "change we can believe," Perrin-heretofore a marginal character seen only on tv as a crusading politician vaguely threatening Rossum Corporation-now bursts center stage, threatening to expose the Dollhouse, having found a former doll willing to testify.

What makes him reminiscent of Obama is what's revealed toward the end of the first of two episodes that aired this week. It turns out that Perrin himself is a doll.  While most dolls are rented for brief episodes, typically less than a day, but occasionally for several days in a row, and sometimes recurrently to the same person, though this is discouraged, we have been introduced to at least one "sleeper" doll who lives like a normal person for months without being activated for a particular purpose.  But Perrin is much more than this.  He's been a doll for three years-and the person he's impersonating is himself. He was a wealthy family's black sheep, but Rossum made him over to be a moral crusader (more Bush than Obama there, but Obama, don't forget, had his dope-smoking phase, and a much more focused sense of being a crusader).  And-in a plot twist revealed near the very end of the second hour this week-his ultimate purpose is to protect Rossum by casting it as the target of an elaborate plot against it by truly sinister forces.

But that's only part of what happens in this double episode.  Another major development is that we finally see into another dollhouse, and thus see the LA Dollhouse in contrast with others, as well as a much more definitive picture of Rossum Corp that begins to emerge.  One plausible reading-as Mark Matson noted in a comment-is that the LA Dollhouse is somewhat analogous to the Democratic Party.  What's less debatable is that Adelle DeWitt has an increasingly strong sense of loyalty and protectiveness over her dollhouse and those associated with it, coupled with an awakening suspicion of Rossum Corp.

I don't for a moment claim that the connections I've drawn here are intentionally pre-planed political messages devised by Whedon.  His intentions are much more abstracted from everyday life.  But because he is tuned into the gestalt of modern politics, his work is overcharged with the potential for associations.  Indeed, it's precisely because of this that it not just invites us into such reflections--if we are political engaged or even just politically attentive in our daily lives, it virtually goads us into such speculations, and thereby deepens our questioning of what things really mean, what significance  they truly have.

And so, it's not that I think Obama was nefariously pre-programmed to snare a nation of followers in one direction only to turn 1800 degrees on them-though it is sort of creepy that these two episodes would air the same week that Obama gave his Afghanistan speech.  No, it's just that I can see how that narrative might work.  After all, I've just seen it on tv.  And not incidentally, it seems quite clear that the real Perrin is not that enamored with what's been planned for him.  For all his flaws in his raw state, there was something... authentic about him.  And that's quite another read on Obama, one perhaps best supported by his book writing, which in this world, where the real person and the doll are not two separate people, suggests a more sympathetic read on Obama, rather than a more paranoid cynical one.

That, my friends is what art does.  It answers our most profound questions...with even deeper questions.


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Dastardly homophones strike again! (4.00 / 1)
I believe that Karel Capek was Czech rather than "Check," but maybe you know something fun that I don't? And Capek himself wrote a letter to the OED stating that it was his brother Josef Capek, also a writer, who had coined the term, one that Karel then appropriated for R.U.R. Although, of course, you are right that it was in Karel's play that it first debuted to the public at large.

At any rate, pedantic geek out/ .


Damn! (0.00 / 0)
So many program/formats, so little time!

Not only did he start out as Czech, he started out with an inverse caret over the initial in his last name. But the SQL database couldn't handle that.

Not sure just where the "Czech" got lost in email land, I was too busy gnashing my teeth at the death of diacriticism.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Or, art imitates live and vice versa (0.00 / 0)
I haven't seen the Dollhouse (it might not even be broadcast here on the east coast), but I read with interest your previous posts on the show, and I know about Joss Whedon and Buffy. (In fact, I think Joss Whedon is a genius, along with Oliver Stone.)

Actually, my daughter got me watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer. This was when my daughter was in high school, I think, that would be early 1990's. I watched the show with her and liked it, mainly for the strong female character.

I don't like sci-fi or fantasy stuff as a rule - even though I recognize its power for illustrating real-world happenings and concepts. So, when you talked about the Dollhouse, I was interested, but it didn't resonate with me because I don't think we get the show here on the east coast and it's so, you know, sci-fi.

So, my response to your diary has nothing to do with anything you might be trying to say.

Another TV show that has power, I admit, is Madmen. I've only seen a couple of episodes. My cable here in D.C. doesn't broadcast the AMC channel. I got a DVD of some episodes, but have yet to watch it. The show's portayal of women, however accurate for the times, is painful to watch.


I meant Art Imitates Life, and vice versa (0.00 / 0)


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Dollhouse Is On Fox, So You Should Get It (0.00 / 0)
It's also available to view online, at its website.

I understand what you mean about the portrayal of women in Mad Men.  As a man, I can tell you that that can be painful, too.  But, that's pretty much true of 90% of the shows on tv, I suppose.

OTOH, seeing Peggy Olson fighting for, and gradually gaining respect is something that really resonates for me.  I had several incredible female teachers who clearly had the ability to do much, much more, so I was keenly aware that something was just not right--even as a grade-school kid a couple of years before that time-frame.  So I can really relate to her by proxy.  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Thanks, I will check my Fox lineup (0.00 / 0)
and online. Also, I'll try viewing Mad Men a little more objectively, but I bet your teachers didn't sleep with the principal.

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get the season 1 dvd (0.00 / 0)
starts slow for 5 episodes, then wow does it take off!  Plus an un-aired episode that is just plain awesome!

Full Court Press!  http://www.openleft.com/showDi...

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Teachers (4.00 / 1)
I had several incredible female teachers who clearly had the ability to do much, much more

As a kid, I was blessed with a number of teachers I believed could have done far more than be teachers. As a parent who has worked with my kids teachers, some of them equally talented and promising, getting to know them as people with marriages (or dating) and kids in some cases, I have changed my view about their potential to do better things. They are doing the highest possible calling to help kids grow as people and members of our society. In one case, my daughter had two teachers teach for a school year and both women helped my daughter learn to take responsibility for her actions, something we had tried and failed to do for years. At the right moment in our daughters life, they were there to make the difference.

In many ways, there is no higher calling than to be a teacher, if that is what you are good at and want to do. In some cases, the prosaic can be transcendant.

Thanks for these posts. They prompt my inner fiction writer. Besides being thought provoking reads.

Also is the URL at Fox or does the shoe have its own URL? Thx!  


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That's True, Too (4.00 / 1)
In fact, my dad--a college prof--taught a lot of teachers.  I even had one of them once.  So I didn't just appreciate what they did, I  felt connected to it.  (My mother had been a teacher, too, before I was born.)

But at the same time, I'm talking about a time when there were 4 professions women were associated with--nurse, stewardess, librarian and teacher, usually grade school.

It's one thing to think of teaching as a high calling, which I do. It's quite another to think that people should have so little choice.  That's what I was thinking.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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social worker (0.00 / 0)
That was also on the list with nurse and teacher.

Just a guess but I would say that the percentage of high school girls back in the 60s going to college (at least in my high school) was not that different than the percentage of high school boys.  Just that a lot of them, including the smartest, wound up going to "teacher's colleges."

Not only has that changed but the teacher's colleges have morphed into local generic colleges.


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Actually (4.00 / 1)
My aunt was a social worker, so I knew that women were allowed to do that.  But I also knew that she was a particularly smart & strong woman, and that most girls growing up didn't even know such a job existed.  So, really, when I said that I was thinking in terms of expectations.  And I was writing from my perspective when I had those women as teachers, when I was a kid in the 50s, not as a teenager in the 60s.  I distinctly remember that girls I grew up around became much more college conscious in the 60s, while boys seemed relatively unchanged--until Vietnam suddenly heated up.

According to this research paper

Women are currently the majority of U.S. college students and of those receiving a bachelor's degree, but were 39 percent of undergraduates in 1960.

I also know that women tended to marry right out of college in the 1950s.  College as the gateway to a career was not a predominant motivation.  That didn't change until the women's movement changed it.


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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The Women's Movement had a totally profound (0.00 / 0)
effect on society, as well as on individual women's lives. This cannot be overstated.

Yes, acceptable careers for women used to be (not that long ago!) teachers, mostly elementary school, librarians, nurses...only later social workers, after LBJ's war on poverty heated the industry up.

I remember in the 1960's attending an event on a Head Start program for pre-school age children when it first began (an LBJ social program that still exists) when I was maybe 11 years old or something. I wanted to volunteer to work with the kids and my parents wouldn't let me. The '60s were scary for them, I think.

Anyway, I went to college right out of high school, in 1971. But my career path was marriage. This was not true for all women at that time, but that's what I did (plus sex, drugs and rock n roll). The Women's Movement is also associated with the sexual revolution. Live and learn.


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I am confused (0.00 / 0)
Are you saying that President Obama is somehow a victim here? Because that's how see the dolls. To me, he seems a willing actor who has chosen this path.  

Don't waste your time (0.00 / 0)
Paul couldn't deconstruct Joss Whedon if someone held a gun to his head.  Joss would read this and say Paul's way off the mark.  Sorry Paul, your analysis is way off base and mostly wrong.   Actually read some of his interviews and then come back and write a coherent piece on the topic.

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Nope (4.00 / 1)
I'm not saying it's true.  I'm saying it's a conceivable narrative.

And the bridge to that would be that it's a common strategy for subordinate group members with leadership potential to collaborate in their own remanufacture.  Not just here, now, in the USA today, but throughout the history of colonialism and on into the post-colonial era.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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This is over my head (0.00 / 0)
I understand to some degree what you mean, but honestly, I don't think Obama is all that deep or that the narrative is true. Or maybe I don't understand.

Maybe because I grew up in poverty or because I am projecting, but I have found that many people who grow up in a lower status who are trying or have clawed their way up as I doing or he did either end up a zealot for the status quo  (like he is) or severely anti establishment (like I am).

It is only recently  (literally the last year or so) that I have begun accept my disposition as an advantage. It allows for me to creatively out think people in terms of ideas.  To get the big picture. To see the gaps and how to use them.

He's not really a thinker like that. He' a guy who stuck all of his intellect into being this Obama brand.

I think given his life experience he just choose to be a super zealot for the status quo. I think almost everything he does makes perfect sense if your first priority is being a zealot for the status quo.  

In other words, he suffers from the Bill Clinton disease.  


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Bill Clinton also grew up in a single-parent household (0.00 / 0)
But, I'm not sure I agree with you about Obama. Though he had a non-traditional growing up - mixed-race parents, lost father and mother, his grandmother raised him for the most part, he also attended Harvard. Liberal institution that it is, it's a brand, and a step to money.

I don't know that he chose to be a "super zealot for the status quo," that may be an extension of his climb.


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Read the fine print of his history at Harvard (4.00 / 4)
One of the early stories is the description of his becoming the head of the Harvard Law Review.

One of his black colleagues, interviewed in a documentary, described how he treated the conservatives.  Then as now, he went out of his way to make them feel comfortable with him rather than address the very real issue at the time of increasing diversity. She added a story describing how he met the conservatives and found they are "not bad people." As if that's relevant.

I met the super rich and my experience was the opposite. I thought "These fuckers are suppose to be the cream of the crop? They are no better than folks I met back home." Sure, they are not bad people. BUT, they are no better either. Certainly not smarter.

Certainly, when I look their worse at Wall Street's "cream of the crop," I see no difference between them and the common drug dealer hustling on the street corner. They have the same sociopathic view of business. The same hustle over how big one's d--- is or how bright one's plumage.

I am not saying  Obama and Clinton had exactly the same background. I am saying that the lessons from their backgrounds produced similar personalities. To me, he's Clinton II. Sure, he brands it a differently, but the underlying product is the same.  


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It's not hard to imagine a kid from the wrong side of the tracks (4.00 / 1)
trying to buddy up with conservative peers at Harvard. That's not the same thing as buddying up with the super-rich, who can go either way - liberal or conservative, look at the Kennedys.

I've met people who aren't super-rich, but act like they are, or who aren't smart but act they like are because they're rich. Both of these scenarios is the worse farce, I think, than what Obama, the politician, is doing.  


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A few thoughts (4.00 / 2)
a) The debate was between the liberals and conservatives on the Harvard Law Review. Then, as now, the liberals thought they had won a battle in electing Obama, but then, as now, they were proven wrong. He proceeded to try to placate the conservatives on the Review.

b) Sure, the super rich can differ from the conservative, but my thesis was about what he gathered from meeting those in favor the status quo. You are right i should not have equated one to the other, but frankly when it comes to the status quo- at least, after the Kennedy/LBJ era, they have been one and the same.

c) I am not sure how to respond to your last paragraph. To me, the worse thing is to be in a position of amazing power let Obama has and to not do as much as you can given that position due to reasons outside of that position or politics for that matter. I think back to how he was so thoroughly convinced early on by his aids supposedly that there was no way that he could get the public option. Such thinking creates self fullfilling prophesy. The individual while farcical or even dangerous just does not has as much influence on our daily lives. Thus, they don not matter as much. They only matter in this conversation to me in the sense of what he  learned from hanging out with these people- whether conservatives or the super rich for that matter. Did he learn anything negative? I did. I am not saying they are ALL bad. I am saying that I learn that they are no different, and what that tended to mean about meritocracy, ability, ideas being advocated etc as well as the nature of wealth itself.  


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How bad is Obama's farce (0.00 / 0)
Permit me to explain.

I said:

I've met people who aren't super-rich, but act like they are, or who aren't smart but act they like are because they're rich. Both of these scenarios is the worse farce, I think, than what Obama, the politician, is doing.

The thing is, I make concessions for Obama's somewhat fraudulent actions - ie, promising one thing during the campaign and doing another after he's elected. His field of play, as President, is a great deal different than as a candidate. That doesn't mean I support Obama no matter what he does. I don't. His moves on the Afghanistan War were the last straw for me. I hope now that he is a one-term president. I will vote against him in 2012 if there is a viable alternative.

But just people - people who act in ways that are not true, I think is the worse farce.

That's what I think!


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I'm WIth Michele (0.00 / 0)
I understand what you're saying, and I understand that logic, but I just think it's more complicated, as she indicates.  That doesn't mean I think you're wrong necessarily.  I just like to consider looking through a lot of different lenses is all.

My old-time photographer's soul won't let me do anything less.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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that's fine (4.00 / 1)
I just see him as not all that complicated. A guy who wants to be in charge who had to do what he had to do to be in charge. His most interesting attribute to me is his skills with branding, which I do find to be brilliant. Better than any Democrat I have ever seen.  I think he will be a centrist president, but due to his branding, most people will not be able to fully engage fights to move policy leftward because for a while they will believe in the brand loyalty.  

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The forge of leadership (0.00 / 0)
Yes, Frantz Fanon was particularly eloquent about such folks, but then a mischievous God gave us Nelson Mandela to confound everyone's expectations. The intersection of group and individual, of history and ambition is still a mystery, despite all the attention it's gotten over the ages. Which is as it should be, I suppose.

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IIRC the reason (0.00 / 0)
it's on Fox is that Dushku got a development deal with them, and called up Whedon to do something with her since they had worked on Buffy together.  I recall he said he was wary as well, which turns out to be well founded.  He would do so much better on the likes of HBO or Showtime or even TNT or USA - I can only guess it's a money thing that keeps him from doing so.

Yes, I Remember All That (0.00 / 0)
It's more just a cry of angst.  I probably should have made that clear.  But angst doesn't work that way, now does it?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I think Dollhouse episodes now reached "diminishing returns" territory. (0.00 / 0)
Very much unlike Firefly, I'm not miserable about this cancellation. I love the show, but I'm sort of happy that Whedon was made to quit while he was ahead.

He's a genius at creating worlds and scenarios, and he should be set to work on something new. While Firefly seemed to have endless possibilities after 14 episodes, Dollhouse is quickly starting to look like Lost, with conspiracies inside conspiracies and ad hoc devices introduced because something new and shocking has to happen every third week or so for years without end.

This is a longstanding problem with plots that unfold over many years: Towards the end, they're painfully absurd. Is anyone here old enough to remember how the X-files ended? Pathetically, in case you aren't. I know that Dollhouse had a better writing staff, and it never would have sunk so low, but why let it sink at all? I'm happy to let Joss be a free agent again, to work hard on another idea to pitch to a network. The network that says 'yes' can count on me to tune in on day one.


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"I never did understand why Joss went with Fox again after the way they shafted Firefly, but alas, such is life. " (0.00 / 0)
They didn't shaft Firefly, lack of viewers shafted Firefly.  And Fox had a (baffling) 3 project deal with Dushku, so she basically hooked it up for Whedon.

And once more, twas lack of interest which killed the beast.  That and a Summer Glau guest spot, which is guaranteed to doom any project.


Not So Fast (4.00 / 1)
The way things 'posed to work is that the network is responsible for attracting viewers, the producers are responsible for keeping them and building an audience--though the network also plays a role in this, obviously, as in not breaking up continuity so badly that the producers can't do their job.

Fox has a long history of super-promoting some shows, and drastically under-promoting others, as well as messing up programming.  Firefly was drastically under-promoted (though not nearly as badly as Tim Minear's show The Inside, which was arguable right up there with Whedon's level of work.  (But that's a whole other rant.)  Plus it was shown out of order.  Total screw-over.

Fact is, Fox just isn't all that good at things that require too much imagination.

But, then, most networks aren't.  And water is wet.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Nonsense (4.00 / 1)
Fox spent all its time advertising on Fast Lane, leaving little attention for Firefly.  Clearly, they knew quality tv at Fox when they saw it.

As for Dollhouse, - in general, when you put something in the Friday night time slot, you aren't giving it a chance.  And lack of interest is relative - a network may stick with something with lower viewership if they believe in it.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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That's true- this came up with NBC (4.00 / 1)
putting Southland on Friday night. Everyone knew that they were sending it there to die.  

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X-Files was on Fridays for years (0.00 / 0)
and if these shows could win their timeslot (regardless of what night that timeslot is) the network would be more likely to continue airing them

perhaps the issue is with the guy who wrote Alien: Resurrection going for high-concept over quality

also terrible actresses in lead roles

also production values


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Funny - if I was going to pull out a political narrative from Dollhouse (4.00 / 4)
it would be about being part of the machine. While Rossum at first seems to be more Woflram and Hart, the longer we watch the more we see that the people in it are not necessarily evil - or at least that its not that clear cut. Even people who are more in hero roles, like Ballard, end up in the machine, trying to do good.  Others that appeared amoral have turned out to have some sense of morality, yet they are compromised.  

More than any other Whedon project, the characters here are caught up in the machine (even more than Angel at the end.) In this sense, its the polar opposite of Firefly.

Dollhouse strikes me as a great story for our time, as individual-oriented narratives - the kind usually used in discussing Barack Obama, both positive and negative - seem so inadequate.  He, like us, is caught in the machine.  We can analyze the right and wrong (or better or worse) choices you make while caught in the machine, but its the machine that matters most.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


James Madison (4.00 / 1)
Your tagline and your comment about being caught up in the machine clash, perhaps. We are all caught up in the machine. It's part of the human condition. Yet some of us rise above the machine long enough and well enough to redirect the machine in ways big and small. Not just the obvious politicians and generals but also terrorists and people like Rachel Carson with her book Silent Spring, to take two disparate examples. Many or all of us have the power to alter the machine even though we have no formal positions of power.

My take is that Obama agrees with neo-liberalism and conservatism and Reaganism. Hence his lack of fight calling people to actually change policies.

But there are other possibilities, as Paul and others have noted. I am most fascinated by the possibility Obama is an ineffective leader, that he lacks leadership skills needed to be a good president. I happened awhile back to speak with someone very successful in the corporate world, a really great leader, who threw out that he thought Obama's main problem was a lack of leadership skills. This guy is a Republican, and I was on deadline, but I've meant to go back, get this guy to elaborate his observation, then dig deeper. It's a side of Obama that I've not seen covered much, if at all.


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Sure (4.00 / 2)
He, like us, is caught in the machine.  We can analyze the right and wrong (or better or worse) choices you make while caught in the machine, but its the machine that matters most.

I didn't mean to deny choice - but only to deny that choice alone is what matters - which, oddly, means rejecting neoliberalism.

My take is that Obama agrees with neo-liberalism and conservatism and Reaganism. Hence his lack of fight calling people to actually change policies.

Maybe, maybe not. But of course, what we need to understand is not only Obama individually, but the Democratic Party of which he is a part, and the context in which they operate. Obama has done very little that was outside the bounds of what is acceptable to Democrats, and therefore has rarely faced any pressure from them.  

Yet some of us rise above the machine long enough and well enough to redirect the machine in ways big and small.

Absolutely, but to do this well, one must recognize that you are in the machine, that choice is only part of it.  I suspect that Obama does share much of the neo-liberal world view, like much of the rest of the party. But many Obama critics, by focusing solely on him and his choices, do the same thing.

That said, the danger you suggested is real as well - believing that people don't make a difference is also too narrow a perspective.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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I Wonder (4.00 / 2)
I certainly do think that he's ineffective--but I'm not sure I'd lay it down to "leadership skills".  After all (a) a lot of organizational leadership is supposed to come from the chief of staff and (b) he ran a pretty damn effective campaign.

Still, I'd like to hear that perspective, to understand it in more detail.

But my sense is that what's missing isn't leadership skills, per se, but that it certainly manifests by undermining his effectiveness.

My best guess--he doesn't know WTF he wants.  Which makes it pretty damn hard to get, no?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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My take (4.00 / 1)
Obama wanted to be President.  I think he wanted to be President for a very long time.  He got that.  I don't think he wanted to be President because of a list of things he could accomplish.

He also seems to want to be loved or at least accepted by the rich and powerful.  He's gotten the acceptance part but certainly not the love.

That leaves us, DFHs, middle class, working class, all on the side lines.

What he wants is more psychological than substantive.

What I want is someone who recognizes that there has been a class war for the last 30 years and the super rich have been winning it almost unopposed.

What I want is someone that puts the good of the people ahead of the good of large businesses and the monied class.

That is not on Obama's agenda and never will be.  He's "them" not "us."


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Could Be (0.00 / 0)
This is certainly one of the lenses I use.

But I really dislike relying on psychological explanations too much.  It's like a wide-angle lens.  Don't get much close-up detail or depth of field.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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True (4.00 / 1)
I definitely see that, too.

I had a number of different perspectives I wanted to merge, and this was part of one of them.  

But I didn't have as much time to write this as I would have like, and there's an old saying, "I would have written less if I'd had more time."  Because I didn't want it to be too long, and didn't have the time to boil it down properly, I just decided to go with this particular slice.

So, thanks for making note of this aspect.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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All I know ... (0.00 / 0)
... is the show stirs my soul.

Full Court Press!  http://www.openleft.com/showDi...

Art criticism as Gordian Knot (4.00 / 1)
Well, I don't see in Joss Whedon what you see in him, Paul, but I have always believed that an artist is entitled to take at least part of the credit for the depth of other people's engagement with his work. I'd even go so far as to agree with Pound that the best art engenders a resonance between the work and the audience which amounts essentially to a collaboration, and that the claim to excellence of any work is located precisely in that collaboration. I also treasure his famous observation -- which I didn't know was famous at the time I first read it -- that the ideal book should become a ball of light in the reader's hands.

So.... If Joss has managed that with you, I guess I'll have to respect him, even though he doesn't have the same effect on me. As for your riff on Dollhouse here, I have to admit that I, too, am still puzzled by President Obama. There's no simple way to deny that he unites a number of qualities which I wouldn't have believed could co-exist in a single person. Either he represents a phenomenon which I haven't seen, or haven't noticed before -- shame on me for not being as smart as I thought I was -- or I identify with his obvious intelligence and eloquence, and therefore either give him a pass which he doesn't deserve, or rage at his collaboration with the enemy, depending on my mood. (Looking at the syntax of that last sentence, I wonder if I'm not even more confused than I thought.)

In short, my reaction to the president probably says more about me than it does about him. Now what was I saying about an artist being entitled to take credit for the depth of an audience's engagement with his work? Maybe I should quit while I'm ahead. :-)


Good analysis. (4.00 / 1)
I just happen to think there was never anything under the glamour of Obama the candidate.  Underneath all the marketing is...nothing.  He's not there.  A closer comparison might be to the main character in American Psycho.

Single-Payer is the ONLY viable public option.

Maybe the US presidency is poorly designed. (4.00 / 1)
I'm starting to think that there is a design flaw in the way that the powers are assigned to the executive branch by the constitution.

The presidency is feeble in all attempts to do good, but it's nearly unstoppable in attempts to do evil.

The President can singlehandedly start wars, killing potentially millions, but as soon as he tries to help, he finds his hands to be tied. He can torture, he can wiretap, he can avenge himself on his enemies, he can destroy our environment, he can destroy our economy and he can profane our media - and there's no way to stop him should he choose such a rampage.

But it's quite different when he actually tries to fix something, or do some good. As soon as he tries, all the other powers that be line up against him.

That is the nature of the modern US presidency: a choice between villainy and impotence. After two terms of villainy, I'm still thanking the stars for this respite in an era of presidential impotence.


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