Senate Outlook, 12/11: Dems close gap slightly

by: Chris Bowers

Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 15:45


Current 2010 Senate Outlook: Net Republican gain of 3 Seats

Previous forecast, Nov 23: Net Republican gain of 4 seats

Rankings changes: Illinois moves from Lean Republican to Toss-up; Florida moves from Solid Republican to Toss-up.

States with new polls: Arkansas, Delaware, Illinois, Colorado, Connecticut, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania

Commentary: The overall picture actually slightly improves for Democrats.  While the negative polling picture in Colorado, Connecticut and Nevada has worsened, those seats were already considered Republican pickups in the forecast.  Improvement in Illinois, along with Rubio gaining in the Republican primary in Florida, results in the forecast shifting from a 4-seat loss to a 3-seat loss.

The best way for Democrats to keep improving is to focus on jobs.  This is probably why, in a speech before a bunch of CEOs, Rahm Emanuel has declared reducing the deficit is the top economic priority for next year:

Deficit reduction over the long term will be the White House's primary focus next year, and Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said at the Wall Street Journal's CEO Council conference last month it will be a "key component" of the president's State of the Union address.

"It is foremost on his mind and the mind of the economic team," Emanuel said.

Good idea. The budget deficit is also the top priority of, like, 2% of the nation:

CBS News Poll. Dec. 4-8, 2009. N=1,031 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

"What do you think is the most important problem facing this country today?" Open-ended

Economy/Jobs: 47
Health care: 12
War/Peace (general): 4
Poverty/Homelessness: 3
Moral values/Family values: 3
War in Afghanistan: 2
War in Iraq: 2
Budget deficit: 2
Other: 20
Unsure: 5

This poll makes a mockery of the notion that the country is mainly concerned about the deficit right now.  When people are not promoted with any choices, only 2% of the country independently lists the deficit as a top priority.

Complete forecast, with all the usual colorful charts, can be found in the extended entry.  

Chris Bowers :: Senate Outlook, 12/11: Dems close gap slightly
Republican-Held Seats
Democratic Pickups: 2 (Two of Florida, Kentucky, Missouri and Ohio)
State Type Democrat Republican Margin #Polls
Ohio
OH D Primary Fisher +5.5 2
OH R Primary Portman +18.5 2
OH Open Fisher Ganley D 8.0 2
OH Open Brunner Ganley D 5.5 2
OH Open Fisher Portman D 1.3 4
OH Open Brunner Portman R 2.0 4
Missouri
MO Open Carnahan Blunt* D 1.3 3
Kentucky
KY D Primary Mongiardo +9.0 2
KY R Primary Grayson +6.0 2
KY Open Conway Paul D 4.5 2
KY Open Conway Grayson R 2.0 2
KY Open Mongiardo Paul R 2.5 2
KY Open Mongiardo Grayson R 8.5 2
Florida
FL R Primary Crist +13.0 3
FL Open Meek* Rubio R 1.3 3
FL Open Meek* Crist R 16.3 3
New Hampshire
NH Open Hodes* Ayotte* R 7.3 3
Louisiana
LA Incumbent Melancon Vitter R 11.0 2
North Carolina
NC Incumbent Marshall* Burr R 12.0 6
(Others to keep an eye on: Iowa, Texas)

Democratic-Held Seats
Democratic Losses: 5 (Colorado, Connecticut, and Nevada, plus two of Arkansas, Delaware, Illinois, and Pennsylvania)
State Type Democrat Republican Margin #Polls
Colorado
CO D Primary Bennet +14.0 1
CO Open Romanoff Norton* R 9.5 2
CO Special Bennet Norton* R 9.0 2
Connecticut
CT R Primary Simmons +11.0 1
CT Incumbent Dodd* Simmons R 9.3 3
CT Incumbent Dodd* McMahon R 4.0 2
Nevada
NV R Primary Lowden +1.5 2
NV Incumbent Reid Lowden R 8.2 2
NV Incumbent Reid Angle R 6.0 1
NV Incumbent Reid Tarkanian R 5.8 5
Illinois
IL D Primary Giannoulis +14.0 1
IL Special Hoffman Kirk* R 7.0 2
IL Special Jackson Kirk* R 3.5 2
IL Special Giannoulis Kirk* R 1.3 3
Delaware
DE Special Biden** Castle R 1.8 4
Pennsylvania
PA D Primary Sestak Specter R 15.2 5
PA Open Sestak Toomey R 2.2 5
PA Incumbent Specter Toomey R 0.3 6
Arkansas
AR R Primary ??? ??? 0
AR Incumbent Lincoln Baker R 1.8 5
AR Incumbent Lincoln Coleman D 1.0 4
AR Incumbent Lincoln Hendren D 5.5 4
California
CA R Primary Fiorina +0.5 2
CA Incumbent Boxer Fiorina D 11.0 3
CA Incumbent Boxer DeVore D 12.0 3
(Others to keep an eye on: New York, North Dakota, Washington, Wisconsin)

Methodology:

  1. The forecast is entirely based on polling.

  2. For now, use the simple mean of all polls where the majority of interviews were conducted since September 12th (the last 90 days).

  3. When available, at least two polls are used for every campaign, even if the majority of their interviews were conducted  before September 12th.

  4. As the election draws closer, restrict the timeframe for polls included in the averages. During the final six weeks of an election, use the simple mean from the last 15 days.

  5. In campaigns with more than one poll, those where one party is ahead by 6.0 or more are considered "solid." Campaigns between 2.7 and 5.9 are considered "leans." Campaigns within 2.6 or less are considered "toss-ups." These categories are subject to refinement based on continued research into past elections.

  6. "Solid" and "lean" seats are considered pickups, while toss-ups are 50-50 for each party. States with mixed results will be considered 50-50 until the primary election. The overall forecast is the most likely seat change based on the current forecast.  This is also subject to refinement.

  7. Do not include Zogby Interactive polls and Columbus Dispatch polls, due to their horrendous past performance and questionable methodologies.

  8. Do not include Strategic Vision polls, as it is starting to seem likely those are not real polls.

  9. Include campaign-funded polls. Further, if there is more than one poll from a single organization, include all of them.
The basic idea is to cram as many polls with sound methodologies into the averages as possible, and weight them evenly to include more overall data in the sample. Because voter preferences don't really change that much in high-profile elections, I thought this method might produce a more accurate result through logic of regression to the mean. It seems to work pretty well, as my research has shown so far.

This is different from my 2006 and 2008 methodology in that it includes polls from 15 days out from an election, instead of only 8. Further, campaign funded polls, and multiple polls from a single polling firm, are now included. All of these changes were made to include more polls in the averages, since my previous methodology was about 10-20% less accurate than Pollster.com and fivethrityeight.com. Since they had already raised the bar so high, and since they will probably improve their methodologies for 2010 even more, it was time for Open Left to step it up.

Notes:
*= Faces primary, but heavy favorite
**= Not an announced candidate at this time


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scary thought (4.00 / 1)
Could Rubio defeat Meek? I want Rubio to win the primary, but if Rs are going to take the seat anyway, I'd rather have Crist in the Senate than a crazy guy like Rubio.

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If Florida had IRV (4.00 / 1)
Would Crist beat Meek and Rubio in a hypothetical three-way race?

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Does it matter? (0.00 / 0)
Nothinig personal, but who cares.   THey don't have it.

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Can't we find someone better than Meek (4.00 / 1)
I hate these anointed candidates.  Same with Alexi Giannoulias in IL.  Why are they so far ahead anyway?  I'm sure their name recognition isn't more than 25 percent.

I know Maurice Ferre is running against Meek, and he seems a little more to the left.  Don't know how he's doing though.


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Well (0.00 / 0)
There are better candidates but Giannoulias isn't that bad.   There is far worse.    

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can someone in CT give me hope (4.00 / 2)
that Dodd could be persuaded to step aside? He's had a good 30-year run. I see his campaign pouring tons of DSCC resources down the drain with a Corzine-like ending. It shouldn't be that way in a state with a strong D bench like CT.

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Yeah seriously (4.00 / 1)
I am hoping for a party "intervention" there but doubt it. Party shows loyalty to those who have shown it none (ie Lieberman) and can't see them not supporting Dodd who has been pretty loyal to the party.

It would be in our best interests if he did step aside though.


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I'm sure it's really nice being a senator (4.00 / 2)
but can't he look at reality and his numbers and recognize that the party has an excellent chance of holding the seat if he steps down? He has had a nice long career. Why not go out without being defeated?

I really don't want a Corzine repeat here. It would be one thing if we had no other D with a strong chance of winning the seat, but that's not the case.

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That being said... (4.00 / 1)
He's a 5 term senator...   never hold a funeral for a long time politician until he's actually dead.   Dodd looks bad now, but how aggressively is he campaigning, etc.   It will be close, but despite polling a year out, I think it it will be close.

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Probably close the wrong way though (0.00 / 0)
Dodd's starting to look more and more like Rick Santorum - if he's doing this badly this early in spite of all his ads touting his accomplishments, it looks pretty bad.

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The way to persuade Dodd to step aside (0.00 / 0)
Is to show him a well-funded primary challenger who siphons off money that would normally go to Dodd.

Can any Democrat win if the Connecticut Green Party gets Nader to run for Senate, as they've been trying to do?

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I doubt Nader would get a strong vote (0.00 / 0)
or even 2 percent at this point, but admittedly I don't know CT politics.

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Merrick Alpert is running in a primary against Dodd (0.00 / 0)
it's amazing that he hasn't gotten more traction.

If people were really concerned about that seat they'd get behind Alpert in a hurry, or at least poll him against the Republicans in the general.  Me, I'm not particularly concerned, because I think Dodd won't step aside and he'll most likely lose (he's like the Rick Santorum of this cycle) so I'm gonna worry about better candidates in more important races.  Besides, we can probably take the CT seat back in 2016.


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From what I've read (0.00 / 0)
Alpert is campaigning to the left of Dodd on Afghanistan and to the right of him on everything else.

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That sucks (4.00 / 1)
One of the reasons why I'm reluctant to argue for Dodd stepping aside is because he's been a pretty decent Senator.  Until someone better (and I mean better in terms of where he stands, not in terms of winning the election) comes along, I don't know how productive it is to ask Dodd to step aside just so someone with a "D" after his name can take his place.

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that's pretty much how you win in Connecticut (0.00 / 0)
it wouldn't shock me to see Alpert running a fiscal conservative campaign

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The petty side of me... (0.00 / 0)
says if Dodd loses, then I hope Linda Mcmahon gets it.   If THAT's how you win Connecticut, then that state deserves the train wreck that woman is and will be as a Senator.    

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Is CT a conservative state? (0.00 / 0)
I know there's lots of rich people there, but I thought they were the enlightened generous kind...

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Fiscally pretty conservative (0.00 / 0)
Especially around Fairfield County, otherwise very liberal.  

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"The budget deficit is also the top priority of, like, 2% of the nation" (0.00 / 0)
Hehehe! Typical Emanuel. Totally out of touch with the real concerns of the people!

Hmm, is it possible that most of the 2% which are concerned live in the village?


It's probable (4.00 / 1)
Most likely the majority who care are a few Senators who are threatening to fuck up legislation if something isn't done.   Agreed... I can't believe Rahm is that stupid.   He's a sleezy fuck like his brother, but I thought he had a  bit of intelligence.

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They don't care about the deficit (4.00 / 3)
so much as breaking the New Deal.  They care because the upper class cares.

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Could be just rhetorical talk... (0.00 / 0)
Obama was supposed to use the TARP money to pay down the deficit, but he did allocate the money towards spending.  Indy's are concerned about spending and the deficit, but more importantly, the average Joe on the street thinks that government spending actually weakens, not strengthens the economy.  Not everyone can take econ 101, and 30 years of Reaganomics have taken a toll on people's thinking.

I think it is important for Obama to appear that he's not a "reckless spender", but I hope that is for appearances only.  Certainly, a balanced budget does help the economic outlook overall, but not right now.  You have to have enough people employed to actually have enough tax revenue to make balance budgeting even feasible.  In the meantime, the government is the only customer buying... don't take that customer away!

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SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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Its a guess at what will be a priority in a year (0.00 / 0)
Chris Bower's poll is for right now and right now what they are doing is focusing on jobs and the economy.

Rahm is making the optimistic prediction that the economy will turn around and then people will start caring about our deficit.

My guess is that the economy doesn't turn around and the deficit stays on the backburner.

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The way to not appear like a "reckless spender" (4.00 / 1)
is not by talking about the importance of deficit reduction, nor even to reduce the deficit (Clinton got no props for that) but by spending money on things people want to spend money on in a clear fashion.  

People are willing to spend money, and they are willing to raise taxes, and they are willing to go farther into debt. They are not willing to do those things for all possible reasons.  Large scale majorities are willing to do those things to ensure economic security and opportunity for all.  It you sell policies as necessary for the health of the economy, that doesn't speak to the concerns of most of the population. No one complains about spending - they complain about spending on certain things.

Why should the WH focus on rhetoric that targets the 2% rather than the 47%? (It won't fool elites.)  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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what I really dislike here on the deficit talk (4.00 / 5)
The disasters on the state level really do make me worry about deficits, but it seems deficit concerns are entirely one-sided. Let me see military programs cut -- so far, we have "cuts" in military programs in which the defense budget increase, and an "end" to the occupation in Iraq where we have more troops in the middle east! We have more tax cuts so far. We don't have the Bush tax cuts rescinded, we have them put on a permanent basis! (estate tax) So what does it mean to be a "key component"? It really does seem like it is cutting social spending.

I'd like to be able to point to Obama's campaign on lifting the cap on social security taxes, but how can I say that to David or Paul or bruh or anyone when I've been made to look like a fool so many times? The Obama Admin really has to show it's trustworthy, but instead they are plainly signaling they want to cut social programs. And when Democrats get hammered in 2010 for unrelated reasons, the Republicans will be happy to cooperate.



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You do realize ... (0.00 / 0)
Obama's connections to Pete Peterson and the Hamilton Project .. right? .. and that Peterson's favorite person is probably Marie Antoinette?

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So what happens to the argument ... (4.00 / 1)
... that passing some piece of shit health care reform now gives us something that we can improve on in the future.

By the way, just read that Reid has changed the proposed restriction on "annual limits" on coverage to "REASONABLE annual limits."

Time to move the goalposts again?

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You read wrong... (0.00 / 0)
This isn't new... it was changed when the committee bills were merged together.  This has been in for a while now.

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It makes the entire program junk... (0.00 / 0)
What is a person supposed to do when he exceeds the "reasonable" limits in a year... die quickly, I guess...

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Hey, Rahm mentioned nuke power in the same speech to CEOs (0.00 / 0)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/...

Emanuel also said nuclear energy would play a role in the country's response to climate change. "You can't get from here to there on global warming if you don't have a theory of the case as it relates to nuclear power," Emanuel said in answer to a question from the audience of business executives.

"We're in the middle of negotiations now on the loan agreements as it relates to what the United States government can do to help build nuclear power plants," he said. "And hopefully in short order you'll see some announcements in that space. That has not happened in recent times."

The Energy Department has narrowed a list of companies that would qualify for $18.5 billion in loan guarantees for nuclear plant construction to Atlanta-based Southern Co., Baltimore-based Constellation Energy Group Inc., Princeton, New Jersey-based NRG Energy Inc. and Cayce, South Carolina-based Scana Corp. The guarantees provide federal financial backing to build the facilities, which don't cause emissions of greenhouse gases tied to global warming.  


that last sentence isn't really true (4.00 / 1)
I put up some mildly pro-nuclear stuff once, and people pointed me to the lifetime carbon emissions for nuclear plants. There's so much concrete in nuclear plants that it really takes a long time to be carbon neutral. They may not cause carbon emission while running, but they cause a lot while being built.

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interesting (0.00 / 0)
they are horribly cost-ineffective as well. ah me.

So the Admin has been worse than anyone could have imagined on civil liberties (surveillance, torture, state secrets, detention without charges), is opposing drug reimportation from Canada, escalated the war in Afghanistan, wants to focus of deficit reduction next year, and is looking forward to more nuke plants.

A.Hell.Of.A.Note.


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Only cost-ineffective for political reasons (0.00 / 0)
1. It's hard to source all those 1970s-era control systems
2. Fuel reprocessing is less profitable than waste warehousing
3. Rahm wants subsidized depleted uranium for the Middle East
4. The one-size-fits-all regulatory structure doesn't work well for smaller or simpler
5. Big business is beautiful in the eyes of the current ruling parties

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damn--got my hopes up (4.00 / 2)
Wheb I read your subject header, I thought you meant Rahm mentioned the power to nuke the filibuster, not actual nuclear power.

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Rahm Nuke the Filibuster? (4.00 / 1)
What have you been drinking or smoking?  ;-)

It's not to late for the baseball bat solution.

Seriously though... I found a bag of dried manure fertilizer for $14 shipped.    I say we start sending those bags to Reid, Rahm and the Jack ass Blue Dogs telling them we think their handling and stance of the HCR bill is crap.


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Maybe our threats are having an impact?? (4.00 / 1)
The word Progressive is on everyone's lips right now.  Wow.

'Tough Progressives promise to kick whining Democrats asses' seems to be just the right medicine for a surly public.

Makes me feel good just to say it.  ;]

Go on, try it...

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Reid isn't looking so bad here, but hopefully the bad numbers... (0.00 / 0)
Can keep sending him a reminder. I'm still pretty confident he'll win next year (except for the f*cked up R-J, all the other polls now have him within single digits of the R's), but the only way he'll win is by turning out the progressive Democratic base en masse... And I just don't know how this hot mess of a health care bill will do it (even if it's better than the other non-public option alternatives). Either Reid needs to rethink giving up a non-triggered public option so soon and/or deliver on other BIG priorities (like JOBS! and environment, which will also mean more JOBS for Nevada) to rev up the base in time to clobber the GOoPers next year.

Yes, Virginia, there are progressives in Nevada.

I think he is toast (0.00 / 0)
I don't see all those new Dem voters from 2008 showing up to get Reid out of trouble.

He trails third-stringers.  

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Yeah, Reid is toast... In 1992, and 1998, and... (4.00 / 1)
Well, hopefully if you study Nevada politics enough, you'll get the message. Reid almost ALWAYS has hard reelection fights. 1998 was the toughest, when (then hot shot & slick schmoozer) John Ensign gave him the campaign for his very political life. Reid's poll numbers are always low... Except on election day, when it actually matters.

The good news here is that slowly, but surely, Reid's team is realizing that they need to make sure all those new Dem voters keep voting in 2010 and beyond. That's why he realized he couldn't just throw away the public option so fast (even if he's now trying to have it both ways with a possible trigger). That's why he's now talking about an immigration bill for next year (Democrats are working double time on organizing Latinos). That's why he's promised action on repealing DADT and passing ENDA. Reid knows he needs us, and that his path to reelection mostly lies with getting Democrats to vote en masse next year.

I know this sounds weird, but Nevada politics is incredibly weird. Reid can win without being "popular", but Ensign's "popularity" is turning out to be his downfall.

Yes, Virginia, there are progressives in Nevada.


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Is it possible (0.00 / 0)
That Reid wins because Nevada elections are rigged?

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Well... (0.00 / 0)
Bush won because Florida Elections are... so anything is possible.

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If Reid is doing this bad against no-namers (0.00 / 0)
it probably means that people already have a low opinion of him, irrespective of who his opponent is.

Unless their low opinion of him changes, which probably won't happen barring a huge improvement in the economy or something similarly drastic, it means that Reid has to win by completely trashing his opponent (like what Gray Davis did to Bill Simon in CA, and what Jon Corzine tried to do unsuccessfully to Chris Christie in NJ).

Reid certainly has the money to do it, given someone's (his?) boast about "vaporizing" his opponent.

The somewhat depressing thing is that if Reid does turn out the base next year, it might have as much to do with how demonized his opponent will be as it does with his own positive record.


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This "wait til you see the other guy" strategy didn't work for Deeds! (4.00 / 1)
Obviously, you can't built a campaign only on the point that the other guy is even worse! Going negative only works as long as you can present some positve arguments, too. Or else the lack of motivation among your base will kill you. Imho that's what we learned recently from Deeds vs. McDonnel.

And Reid is caught in that trap now, too. Being majority leader didn't work to his advantage at all. He not only owns the small achievements, he also owns the big disappointments, and that isn't really boosting his popularity. Yes, sure, he is a stand up guy, but even for those comes the day where worse comes to worse.


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Well, it worked for Gray Davis (0.00 / 0)
but yeah, it probably won't work as well for Reid.  But he'll most likely need at least some heavy demonization to get reelected, if he already has such low numbers.

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stupid....or ignorant? (0.00 / 0)
There is an important distinction to be made between stupidity and ignorance.

And I would suggest this: If you were to poll a thousand American voters at randon and ask them, "What is the relationship between the Bilderberg Group and American economic and foreign policy?", 99% would look at you blankly and ask, "What is the Bilderberg Group?".

And yet many of these folks would be superbly intelligent. The would be great parents, possess well rounded and winning personalities, excel at their jobs, contribute much to the community, greet you with an infectous sense of humor, compassion, a willingness to engage in exceptional discussions across a wide terrain of issues.

But they are profoundly ignorant about the systemic relationship between the revolving doors that connect Wall Steet, K Street, the Congress, the White House, the mainstream media, the Fed, the IMF, the World Bank, the CFR.

In other words, hugely ignorant about the ruling fucking class that owns and operates "democracy" in America with respect to the economic and foreign policy issues that revolve around literally billions and billions of dollars.

The fix is in. And they react to that only vaguely with things like, "yes, the rich get richer" or "you can't beat City Hall".

Well, actually, you can. But first you have to be thoroughly familiar with how it works. And who makes it function that way.



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