How the US Senate poisons democracy: Part I

by: Daniel De Groot

Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 21:25



I hope it is evident from reason and authority, that in the constitution of the senate there is much cunning and little wisdom; that we have much to fear from it, and little to hope, and then it must necessarily produce a baneful aristocracy, by which the democratic rights of the people will be overwhelmed.
- Anti-Federalist #64

It's encouraging to see the recent attention to the filibuster, and a possibly growing liberal consensus that the filibuster is generally a bad thing, and should be curtailed or eliminated.  I'm going to continue a very old series of mine, "Unstacking the Deck" which began with my very first front page post at Open Left, to discuss the broken institutional balance of the US government.  The filibuster is certainly a big factor in that, but it's worth going into some detail of the underlying power disparity which the filibuster only exacerbates.  

Daniel De Groot :: How the US Senate poisons democracy: Part I
In May, Chris touched on this problem, writing that America Has a Unicameral Legislature.  In it, Chris argues that it is almost always the Senate that effectively decides whether bills become law and the House's opinion doesn't seem to matter very much.  This is a big problem, and stems from the unusual American legislative model, whereby the Upper chamber is actually substantially more powerful than the Lower one, which is rare among comparable wealthy and stable democracies.  In Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Japan and Australia, the Upper chambers of these nations legislatures in most cases have a (sometimes severely) limited ability to block the will of the Lower house.   Sometimes this is formally legal (the UK) and sometimes it is just normative (like Canada) but it always clearly the lower houses that lead these nations' legislative processes.  This difference has some obvious effects on American democracy worth examining.

Why say the two chambers are not equal?  The idea was supposed to be that since both houses have to pass each bill in identical form in order for it to become law, that balance of vetoes ensures broad parity in power and authority between them.  This is a kind of symbolic symmetry that has the appearance, but not the actuality of equality.  To requote Anatole France:


The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.

The two parties have equivalent instruments of veto, yes, but one party is so much more apt to use theirs, and has more to gain (or protect) by using it.  Sure, the House can veto legislation just like rich people can sleep under bridges, but do they actually want to?  No, and the reason has to do with the role of government in a liberal democracy as the great force of equalization.  The relationship of money and power means that those with money have the power to pursue their aims without outside assistance.  Those without, do not (in fact they need protection even from being abused by the powerful).  The House, as the more liberal institution will be more apt to seek to pursue populist aims.  The Senate will be more apt to stymie those.  In a choice between an activist government that helps the downtrodden and a do-nothing government, the wealthy would always prefer the latter, which is what the Senate provides for them.  

There are exceptions where liberals garner benefit from the Senate's ingrained unwillingness to act.  This, however is not a strong reason to keep it around (in its present form at least).  Most other democracies have effectively unicameral legislatures with power heavily concentrated in the lower House.  Universal health care survived strong C/conservative majority governments in the UK (Thatcher) and Canada (Mulroney) without these governments exercising their legislatively unfettered power to repeal the programs.  The prospect of angry voters proves a better check than the filibuster.  In the US, George Bush's grand plan to kill social security didn't even come to a vote in either Chamber, so again it would be dubious to credit the Senate with saving SS from privatization.  On the flip side, the Senate didn't stop Alito or Roberts, didn't even slow down the Patriot act (for all the praise of Feingold's lone vote against it in the Senate, one never sees mentioned that in the House there were 66 votes against it), nor federalizing Terry Schiavo's case.  Even as a speed bump on conservative overreach, it regularly fails.

Additionally, a far better check on unfettered majority rule in America is the constitutionally entrenched Bill of Rights, enforceable by the Courts.  While their record is not without blemish on that front, it is a far better one than boasted by the Senate.  The Bill of Rights is a minority protection mechanism that protects all minorities equally whereas the Senate's mechanism requires a minority that is able to elect 41+ Senators in plurality-wins elections.  There's really only 1 minority that can ever do that:  Rural white conservatives.  

The basic design of bicameralism in the US combined with the undemocratic manner in which Senators are apportioned, the unrepresentative way in which they are elected and their three times longer terms of office already creates a situation where the Senate becomes the more important chamber by virtue of being the one that is more difficult to motivate to act.  If you think about choosing not to act is "policy" just as much as choosing any particular action, then you have a situation where merely by stopping legislation, the Senate is affirmatively directing the course of the US government far more often than the House.  Curtailing the filibuster would largely correct this problem, though of course Senators would still be on average more conservative so it wouldn't eliminate the problem entirely.

Part II (published tomorrow), will look at the powers specific to each chamber, where the real balance of power between the chambers looks even worse.


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great post (4.00 / 1)
One thing to consider. This dairy brings up the legacy of the Connecticut Compromise and the intention behind it. The small states were rightfully wary of the power of the House as it was based on proportional representation. They were worried that the big states would hijack the legislative process and that all laws would favor those states with a larger population.

This same dilemma pops out in the debate over the national popular vote campaign which also musters a lot of support among progressives. Get rid of the electoral college and states like my own Vermont will have a negligible effect on the outcome of presidential elections.

That being said, I think the deeper issue lies in a classic problem of political thought. Is there a tyranny of the majority and where does it tend to manifest itself? We've certainly seen interesting things happen on LGBT campaign ballot initiatives regarding that issue.

But as it portends to the Senate... its definitely a painfully conservative institution that stagnates progress in this country-- but are we past the big state/small state divide?  Are there even any indicators that that divide even still exists? I know I appreciate the fact that VT is able to have a disproportionate affect on deliberation in the senate but if Bernie and Leahy weren't my senators I dunno. We're contending that the more democratic our gov't institutions become, the more liberal they will become and I think that's bold but probably true contention. We all know about reality's bias...

Agitate.Liberate.Create.


tyranny of the majority (4.00 / 1)

That being said, I think the deeper issue lies in a classic problem of political thought. Is there a tyranny of the majority and where does it tend to manifest itself?

There definitely is, but the Senate is a crummy solution to the problem.  As I noted above, the Bill of Rights is a far better minority rights protection.  As you mentioned Maine, is there really much chance that the US Senate would block an anti-gay law?  It didn't block DADT or DOMA.

What I didn't say above, is that the Bill of Rights protects minorities from specific harms, but is not a general veto power to any and all minorities for anything they want.  Democracies just don't work well that way.  If the US senate was elected by proportional representation (like the Aussie senate) and each minority group/party could filibuster, this wouldn't be an improvement for America even though it would mean the Senate minority protection scheme protected more than 1 minority.  It would just be utter gridlock.


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Tyranny of the majority is a problem (4.00 / 2)
you're supposed to deal with after you have empowered the majority. We are a long way from that.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

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This is lovely (4.00 / 1)
Just what the fuck can be done about it.  No one in government is actually going to try to abolish the senate. So what to do?

Vent on Open Left! (0.00 / 0)
Then get your pitchforks!

Agitate.Liberate.Create.

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Not much without abolishing the Constitution (4.00 / 1)
Article V:

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

So, no state can be forced to give up its equal vote in the Senate.

Theoretically, I would say work towards the failure of our current regime.  I would begin by encouraging the complete failure of the state governments that are currently in financial crisis.  Theoretically speaking, of course.

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you don't have to abolish the constitution (0.00 / 0)
just increase the size of the house

how about 10,000?

I was reading something here a while ago

"Getting a Bigger House"

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com...


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nevermind (0.00 / 0)
you're right, I realized it afterwards...

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Several answers (4.00 / 5)
1) Partly I am providing context and background to Chris' call to end the filibuster.  The Senate is so overwhelmingly more powerful than the House that any decrease in its influence should be supported in the abstract absent a compelling reason against.

2) You never know what will happen when.  If the US does go into a Soviet 1991 style collapse, there will be opportunities to radically rethink these things.  Having a left that agrees "Senates suck" because they've put some prior thought into these subjects will change the composition of what comes out.

3) Shit, dude, not every problem needs an immediate solution or a 4 step action plan.  Big problems shouldn't be ignored just because they are currently unsolvable.


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One more answer (4.00 / 2)
is that the greatest barrier to change is the belief that thing can't change. Conservatives know this, which is why they have been able to achieve all sorts of things that were supposed to be impossible.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

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use the power of shame (4.00 / 3)
ok, i know, and if you call now, you also get a pony.

but honestly. there is just a kind of unquestioning fatalistic acceptance that, well what can we do, they own us. that acceptance can definitely be changed.

make the Senate as it acts now a common object of derision and scorn. so that people would immediately know what "screw the House of Lords" meant. i guess, this gets to a point in Daniel's first post that he linked to above - the power of norms. the House may not be able to procedurally stop the Senate from rolling them but they could sure as hell complain about it and fight it and blame the Senators. it's not "the system, man". it's those 100 people. they can change how they do what they do anytime they like. they just don't have any reason to change now.

not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.


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The Senate makes sense (4.00 / 1)
If you believe that the several states have individual sovereignty.  It wasn't designed to be favorable to specifically rural white conservatives.  One could remedy that by splitting existing states to create new states (if it were possible).

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Exactly (0.00 / 0)
Back during the constitutional conventions states were very much more invested in their sovereignty. Despite the shortcomings of the Articles of Confederation, Shays Rebellion etc. most still had reservations about the breadth and power of a federal gov't. Nowadays though, the Federalist vision has prevailed and the old qualms between actual states is largely irrelevant IMO.

Agitate.Liberate.Create.

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It was however (4.00 / 1)
Designed to favour aristocracy.  Perhaps the rural/urban conservative/liberal linkage was not so well understood then, but although the senate has aspects of a body for resolving regional disputes (which is the classic case for a 2nd chamber in Federalism scholarship), it was also designed to prevent rule by the common man.


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Designed to favour aristocracy...absolutely (0.00 / 0)
When only land holding white men are allowed to vote in the first place, I can't imagine deep democracy and equal representation for all was an intent of the founders. Aside from men like Paine, the founders we're dreadfully aristocratic and imagined a country ruled by knowledgeable elites. The only purpose of the masses was to fight the wars.

Agitate.Liberate.Create.

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How much was unintended consequences? (0.00 / 0)
I have a hard time believing that the Senate has worked out mostly how the Founding Fathers had planned.

I wonder what American history would be like if they had thought of the degressive proportionality that is used in the European Parliament.  (I mention it now because I am not sure how much I will be around when part ii of this diary is possibly posted tomorrow and I want to inject the idea into people's consciousness).

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both


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I'm not sure its's that straightforward (4.00 / 1)
The Framers aren't easily summarized in such statements like favoring aristocracy.  I prefer to focus on the ideas we explicitly adopted about the purpose of the Constitution (the preamble).  Your approach says that we must reject the Framers to achieve more modern purposes. I'd rather say, we must do these things (like reform the Senate) in order to fulfill its stated purposes.  

The Constitution on its face rests on the notion of popular sovereignty, not state sovereignty or aristocracy. The design of the Constitution can largely be seen as a product of that concern (not entirely of course, slavery too - although since that was explicitly excised as a constitutional purpose, it is somewhat of a different issue.)  

The Framers left many issues open ended for later generations to decide (for example, it did not determine voting rights - leaving that up to the states, but people continue to claim that it limited suffrage to some group).  They gave us the tools to change it (although they often seem inadequate today - but that's partly because they did no anticipate today's parties or corporations.)

Personally, I'd say that our cause is consistent with the Preamble, and therefore with the Constitution, even as we call to change it. The Framers were not in favor (or at least would not have admitted to being in favor) of having a corporate aristocracy that operated against the public interest, and ignored the popular will (not just in the short term but in the long term.) We can note that without obscuring what they got wrong, or lionizing them.

I think we give up too much by conceding that our constitutional tradition is on the side of reaction - and I don't believe it to be true.  They are the ones operating outside our constitutional tradition. It ought to be wielded against them.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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splitting states (0.00 / 0)
maybe California could do a deal with Texas - you split my state, i'll split yours? though they theoretically have the right to do it themselves, i think. it only takes Congressional approval, not a Constitutional change.

well. after the earthquake, maybe.

not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.


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I'm thinking New York (0.00 / 0)
Separating the city from upstate.  Also, northern Virginia from the rest of the state, Chicago from the rest of Illinois, and eastern Washington to merge with either eastern Oregon or northern Idaho.

All of those done together, while creating much more predictably Democratic- and Republican-leaning Senate seats, would lock in some definite urban-based Senators by splitting up states that tend to have occasionally contentious urban-rural divides into two more homogeneous states.

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New Columbia (4.00 / 1)
Don't forget to find a way to make Washington, DC a state with full representation.  The struggle for New Columbia has been going on since the 19th century.  It's always been a long shot -- although the DC Statehood Amendment did pass Congress in the late 1970's only to lose in the states -- but probably more dooable than seperating New York or drawing new lines out west.

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Dilution (0.00 / 0)
The existing states would have the incentive to oppose the splits because their vote in the Senate would be diluted.  If one of the parties had much better discipline than now, it could be done. But that kind of action would probably drive away all independent support for the party that pushes the split.

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Well, sort of (4.00 / 1)
Some way of recognizing the sovereignty of states in the federal legislature makes sense, but there's no reason that had to be accomplished with an entirely separate body from the House.  I'm actually in the preliminary steps of working on a biography of Oliver Ellsworth, the drafter of the Connecticut Compromise, and in the course of my background research I've turned into quite a critic of the idea of a bicameral legislature as a tool for promoting the states' interests.  

My preferred alternative: on matters of interstate commerce, treaty ratifications, confirmations of ambassadors and judges, and constitutional changes, require the House to vote by state delegation instead of individual members, like we do when the Congress decides Presidential elections.

Viva George Norris!

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That's an interesting idea (0.00 / 0)
Why do you see confirmation of judges/ambassadors as something that the "states" should have sway over as opposed to the "people" via the HoR?

I can see the Senate needing a role in treaties, and constitution changes (though requiring both 2/3 in the Senate and 3/4 of State legs seems redundant), but particularly picking members of cabinet seems to just be the routine running of the federal govt, and not something the States should collectively have veto over.


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What can be done about it? (4.00 / 1)
Well, we could always try reducing Senatorial term of office to four years. They would still have a longer term than the house, but would have to face voters more often.

Probably have to change the seventeenth amendment to do it. But it'd be easier -- and probably more popular -- than just abolishing the senate would be.


Length of terms make a huge difference (4.00 / 1)
Two-year terms in the house are absurd.  A representative with a two-year term is a glorified ombudsman.  I believe they tried introducing management by objectives in the 60s and it failed, it requires longer planning horizons than 2 years.

Presumably that is how the FF saw the House, a collection of tribunes who could play at passing legislation.


How much would it level the playing field (4.00 / 2)
if members of both houses faced elections every four years?

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Question should be "How does Congress stifle democracy" (0.00 / 0)
... and they do that by voting in favor of their contributors rather than their constituents. 100% of the time.

Doubt it? Just look at the health care debate. Every consideration keeps the insurance industry in the loop even though they needlessly drain 31% of health care costs. The only plan that makes fiscal sense is a single-payer Medicare-for-all system that is supported by 70% of the public, but because of the $46 million in contributions they will not even put it on the table for discussion.

Whether you are a Righty or Lefty, this is NOT the way you should want your country run.

See http://moneyedpoliticians.net/...

Jack Lohman

Jack Lohman

http://MoneyedPoliticians.net

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