Stunning Comments from the White House on the Geithner/AIG Scandal

by: David Sirota

Fri Jan 08, 2010 at 16:00


As a follow up to yesterday's explosive news, check out today's an amazing - and hideous - interchange between CNN reporter Ed Henry and White House press secretary Robert Gibbs about new evidence that Tim Geithner's New York Fed instructed AIG to hide information from SEC regulators (by the way, big kudos to Henry for trying to get some answers):

Q: Robert, Does the White House believe that Secretary Geithner should testify on the Hill, turn over any documents he has, to sort of clear this up?

MR. GIBBS:  Ed, I'd point you to the Treasury Department.  I'm sure you've already talked to them. Secretary Geithner was not involved in any of these emails. These decisions did not rise to his level at the Fed. These are emails and decisions made by officials at an independent regulatory agency --

Q: But how do you know that he wasn't involved?  He was the leader of the New York Fed.

MR. GIBBS:  Right, but he wasn't on the emails that have been talked about and wasn't party to the decision that was being made.

Q: Well, Republican Congressman Issa says there are probably thousands of more emails and he may not be on some that some people have looked at.  In the interest of transparency would the White House want more -- I mean, you run AIG now, essentially --

MR. GIBBS:  I would point you to the Department of Treasury, which I think will tell you that --

Q:    But what does the White House believe?

MR. GIBBS:  I just gave you what the White House believes.

Q:  Well, no, you gave me the Treasury Department -- no, what do you believe?  Do you believe that more emails should come out so we can learn --

MR. GIBBS:  What I said was I'm -- I don't know what the story is about the emails.  I would tell you that there are not emails that involve Secretary Geithner in this instance.  This is emails and decisions that are being made by two people.  That decision did not rise to his level.

Q: Okay, last thing on this.  Various liberals have jumped on this and other stories about Secretary Geithner, to say that he really is not fit to serve as Treasury Secretary.  He still has the President's full confidence?

MR. GIBBS: Of course.

Three things here:

1. Notice that the White House is not denying that illegal action may have occurred - the administration is only making the (preposterous) assertion that the regulatory filings of the largest corporation in the New York Fed's receivership somehow "didn't rise" to Geithner's level. That's right, we're expected to believe the decisions to authorize and then hide multi-billion-dollar taxpayer-financed sweetheart deals for Geithner's friends at Goldman Sachs and all the other big banks obviously - obviously! - "didn't rise" to Geithner's level. Hmm...where have we heard this "no controlling legal authority" argument before...hmm...oh, right - from top Enron executives. And  I thought the President was telling us that he believed in "buck stops here" accountability for those at the top, right? Guess not.

2. Gibbs insists Geithner "wasn't party to the decision that was being made" to instruct AIG to hide information from the SEC. He offers no proof of this, other than the fact that Geithner himself isn't on the select emails that have been released. But when pressed about whether Geithner may have known, Gibbs later says "I don't know what the story is about the emails." He also refuses to answer whether the White House will instruct the Treasury Department to release all of AIGs emails to clear up the record, as a group of independent former prosecutors have called for, and as the White House has the power to do because AIG is now owned by the taxpayers. I guess those promises to make this administration "the most transparent in history" are out the window.

3. The fact that the White House can learn about this scandal and then blindly insist that the man at the center of it has the absolute confidence of the president is stunning - and sickening. Van Jones name appears on an ancient (and by the way, perfectly legal) letter of opinion (one that he doesn't even remember signing) about something that has nothing to do with his current job, and that's supposedly worthy of being immediately fired. Tim Geithner heads an institution that helps Goldman Sachs steal $12 billion through AIG and then helps AIG hide that fact - not only does he not get fired from his job as the top financial regulator in America, he gets the full confidence of the President of the United States.

UPDATE: A friend emails me with a very smart explanation for the Van Jones/Tim Geithner discrepancy: "Tim Geithner is rich, white, fiscally conservative & connected to many of the wealthy donors of Obama," he says. "Van Jones is not wealthy, Black, and a street organizer to the poor & working class folks whose vast voting support actually put Obama in the White House. What's so amazing about the double standard? It's the basis of our oligarchy." Exactly.

David Sirota :: Stunning Comments from the White House on the Geithner/AIG Scandal

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*sigh* (4.00 / 1)
I don't regret voting for Obama considering the alternative to the presidency. However, I must say he sure is fucking weak and seems so naive. He seems to have no spine at all. Just because he has 3 years left doesn't mean he can keep talking tough and not delivering. "The buck stops with me". What a joke. I am certain I will not show up to give him a second term. Geithner just looks like he's full of shit period.

Extraordinary progressive star in the making

Wouldn't the alternative... (4.00 / 1)
Be even worse at that point?  Tea Party presidency?

[ Parent ]
We don't know if Palin, otr any teabagger will make it. (0.00 / 0)
Imho it's unlikely. Public support for an extreme right wing president seems to be limited to about 25% right now. That may change oif Obama screws up even more, though. All talk and no action isn't good enough for a second term. At least in the US. In Germany, we're stuck with horrible Merkel who has no spine, never makes any decisions, but has her party in an iron grip. Sigh...

[ Parent ]
We're talking about who's going to win a GOP primary... (4.00 / 1)
At this point, Tea Party candidate doesn't seem that unlikely. And if Democrats want to sit on their ass it could be closer than you would hope it would be.

[ Parent ]
True (0.00 / 0)
Besides, if someone as inexperienced as Obama can grab the White House from behind then maybe a true progressive can do the same as well and actually deliver.  

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[ Parent ]
Also (4.00 / 1)
just because Obama is the incumbent doesn't mean America can't replace his ass with a real progressive. Real change just takes time and we have to weed through the liars

Extraordinary progressive star in the making

[ Parent ]
This simply won't happen... (0.00 / 0)
I'll bet you $1 that there won't even be a primary. =)

[ Parent ]
By that I mean... (0.00 / 0)
A primary challenger.

[ Parent ]
I accept that bet! (0.00 / 0)
There's always Kucinich.

[ Parent ]
I don't care if there isn't (0.00 / 0)
I was just simply saying. But thanks for being optimistic, this is a forum you can be that here!

Extraordinary progressive star in the making

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The only thing worse than a Republican (4.00 / 1)
Is a Democrat who turns the 40% of Americans who aren't partisan against the left.  We need to get rid of this joke we have for a President as soon as possible.  After the people realize how badly they've been had they may decide to do to Dems what the country did to the GOP in 1932.  

While I call him a joke, the facts point out that the joke is on us.   We voted for him and we're the one's on the butt-end.  Those of us who see the picture now and those of you who will see the picture before 2012 need to find someone, even if it is a third party candidate to rally around.  The problems in the Democratic Party go far deeper than Obama.  We need to send a message to Democrats in 2010 and 2012 to make sure that they understand that campaigning like a lefty and ruling from right is not acceptable.  If you are willing to vote for someone who governs just like GW Bush just because he has a D behind his name, then you need to start asking yourself if you are a hyprocrite.

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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Yeah, I won't do that... (4.00 / 2)
"If you are willing to vote for someone who governs just like GW Bush just because he has a D behind his name, then you need to start asking yourself if you are a hyprocrite."

I'm sorry, but even through the disappointment and anger at Obama, equating him to Bush is a bridge too far.  People really have short memories as to how shitty Bush was.


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It's Not US We're Worried About (0.00 / 0)
 
People really have short memories as to how shitty Bush was.

And you're interacting with probably the top 5% of the "politically aware" people in the country posting on this blog/

What do you think the other 95% are going to do in 2010? If we're discussing it, it's a done deal with them.


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Tired of apologia for Obama (0.00 / 0)
I'm so tired of some of the progressive base apologizing and excusing Obama with lame excuses that he would do the right thing, but he's weak, or has been "brainwashed."  

B.S.  He's part and parcel of the corporate plutocracy (or "oligarchy" as some term it).  In my opinion, from all the evidence of his tenure so far, whatever progressive values he had in the past have since been purged by his personal ambition for success and power within the ruling elite.  


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oh yeah I forgot (0.00 / 0)
Fuckers

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Prove a negative? (0.00 / 0)
"Gibbs insists Geithner "wasn't party to the decision that was being made" to instruct AIG to hide information from the SEC. He offers no proof of this, other than the fact that Geithner himself isn't on the select emails that have been released."

Maybe we should ask Gibbs why Obama hasn't come forth with proof that he wrote his own memoirs... I mean, come on, how long do we need to wait for an answer on that?

In all seriousness, I thought he recused himself?  There are some discrepancies that need explanations, though I don't think Gibbs is the person to ask necessarily... I mean, what have we ever expected to learn from the White House spokesman? The #1 requirement for that job is being able to bullshit.

I say all this, btw, as someone who thinks Geithner has overstayed his welcome.


Someone, perhaps on a HuffPo article pointed out (0.00 / 0)
that one of Timmy's people at NYFed said in an email that Geithner was aware and supported the decisions regarding AIG.  I think Gibbs was obfuscating.  This whole damn administration is starting to remind me of the Bill Clinton/Ken Starr video where Clinton discusses of how he tried to talk his way out of his relationship with Lewinsky during his court appearance.  Kinda like what the meaning of is is.

At some point some of you are going to have to start dealing with the reality that perhaps Joe Wilson's biggest transgression was a lack of decorum.

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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That new update (4.00 / 1)
makes me want to backhand Obama to Kenya but not back. This shit makes me mad.

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Special Inspector General for TARP? (0.00 / 0)
Has the MSM asked why their comments directly conflict with the SIGTARP report which clearly shows Sec. Geithner running the AIG bailout?

Now, I doubt if the report even mentions the cover-up, that's why we call it a cover-up.

President Obama has to date been successful at pointing out he is responding to a crisis he did not create, but the continued failure of the bailout to fix Main St while Wall St hands out hundreds of billions as bonuses, the still very high chance that a second, worse slump coming, and the so far idiotic insistence that "green shoots are sprouting" is going to give Obama the nickname of Hoover.

Obama's and the Dem's brandname could very well be toxic by 2010 if the economy proceeds on it's current path and the WH continues to act as if none of the Wall St bailout back room deals amount to much.  We are talking about tens of trillions of dollars here on decisions which were, in hind sight, made very poorly.  Why is the WH working so hard to save the very people and companies which caused the collapse of the global economy?  Why are they protecting the villains which have wrecked the lives of tens of millions of Americans?  I'm not even talking about the people that got suckered into a home loan they could not afford - we're witnessing the implosion of whole segments of the America's manufacturing base.


Missing the point (0.00 / 0)
Remember how the oligarchs ran Russia, until Putin Octavian-like consolidated power.

Well we are still in the oligarchy phase.

I'll bet in private, our oligarchs refer to Obama as their "clerk," the way Fund referred to Geithner.

The question is, who will our Putin be?

Certainly none of the geniuses who are running Wall Street into the ground.


Voter Backlash Hard To Predict (4.00 / 1)
At this point, it's difficult to predict 2010/2012 names, but it's easy to see that the Dems will pay a voter backlash price.  People are going to "vote out" Dems running in races unless those running start to separate themselves from a much more "toxic" DC Dems.  So we'll have DC gridlock which will work in Obama's and the oligarchy's favor - no serious chance for real reform.

I think Palin will be discredited by 2012 unless she and the teabaggers get more mainstreamed.  We'll know that's happening if we see much more sympathetic view of the baggers playing out on the MSM (other than Fox).

I'm willing to bet the oligarchy continues to back Obama, and why not, he's in till 2012, and he's doing everything they want.  Then they'll buy the leading Repub/Dem candidates and use the MSM to characterize a third party as nut jobs.


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I would disagree with the update only in... (4.00 / 1)
the fact that I don't believe this is a racist issue.  It is strictly an extension of the anti-workingclass activity of the Washington ruling class.  Of course it affects minorites more than whites, because as groups they are poorer than whites.  But at the bottom of this is an effort to complete the theft of the wealth of the working classes of people.  We have to try to avoid the petty bickering between different categories of the workers.  Eventually, a great many the the hated teabaggers are going to come very near to the left with their feelings on economic issues.

We need to start finding friends to work with.  The economic future for the lower incomes is so bleak right now, we may need to put aside some of our social arguments and find a way to work with those who don't share all of our convictions.  At least until we find a way to have an equitable basic survival.  Jane Hampsher's efforts to piggyback on Grover Norquist is a good example.  If your argument is you couldn't stomach working with someone like Norquist, well then,  good luck.

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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I Agree... (0.00 / 0)
...and would further point out that some good could come out of such an alliance. Teabaggers are generally not evil people; they just don't understand the issues. Their motivations are often fine, but their solutions are childish.

It might help if the left were to influence them. They're clearly susceptible.

Pete Muldoon

www.guerillapost.com


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Geithner looks like the tall goth kid on south park. (0.00 / 0)
Geithner's ONLY redeeming quality is that he reminds me of
the tall goth kid on south park.

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Transparency? (0.00 / 0)
I guess those promises to make this administration "the most transparent in history" are out the window.

That train left the station a long time ago.

Nor can the administration argue that they have to ignore this out of political necessity. They have been handed exactly the sort of smoking gun they need to put Wall Street on the run.

When they bury this, it will be because they want to. There is no other explanation.

pete muldoon

www.guerillapost.com


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