Harry Reid has become unelectable

by: Chris Bowers

Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 18:00


In case you hadn't heard, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is now embroiled in a controversy over some racially clueless remarks he made during the 2008 Democratic Presidential primary season.

This is not the first problem Senator Reid has faced during his re-election effort, but it should be the last.  It is very difficult to see how Harry Reid can win re-election at this point.

At the base of Harry Reid's problems are the unemployment and foreclosure rates in Nevada.  In terms of foreclosures, "Nevada is #1 in the entire country, and has been so for years.  Further, the Silver State has significantly higher unemployment than the rest of the nation.  Even the recent drops in unemployment in Nevada have come as a result of tens of thousands dropping out of the Nevada workforce, not from an increase in jobs.

There are few places in the country, if any, that have been hit harder by the recession that Nevada (and that includes Michigan).  In that environment, it would be difficult for any longstanding, powerful, well-known politician in the state to be re-elected.  And, in Nevada, there are no better known, or more powerful, longstanding politicians than Harry Reid.

Given all this, it is not surprisingly that Reid's re-elect numbers are terrible.  The last three polling organizations to survey the state show Reid losing by 6.3% and 7.0% to a couple of Republican unknowns.  His numbers would likely be even worse if the Republican candidates were better known.

While at one time there was an argument that Reid could still have won re-election by using his vast monetary advantage to go nuclear on his unknown Republican opponents, thus driving up their unfavorables, this latest incident now makes that much more difficult.  This is a sort of scandal has the potential to cut right at the heart of Reid's base, which is mainly the 30% of state voters who self-identify as non-white.  It may not turn into a big deal, but it will be something of a deal.  Given his current position, taking any hit, especially among his base, is virtually fatal to Reid's chances.

Unlike Connecticut, there is no Richard Blumenthal figure to sweep in and secure the seat for Democrats if Harry Reid chooses not to run for re-election.  However, if Reid did not decide to run for re-election, it would at least give Democrats a fighting chance in the state.  Nevada has a Cook PVI of Democratic +2, and a voter registration advantage of 43.9% to 35.6%.  Even in the current Nevada political environment, a good candidate and a good campaign can win this for Democrats.

Right now, due to political circumstance, his national visibility, and this new scandal, that candidate is not Harry Reid.  With a March 12th filing deadline for the Democratic primary, Democrats need a new candidate, and fast.

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I disagree (0.00 / 1)
As an older generaltion Democrat, I've been interested in Negro dialect for decades. You can find dictionaries of black pronunciation in libraries - at least I did. My reason for looking, in part, was because I felt that testing using standard English names and usage put Negroes at a disadvantage when taking achievement tests. Don't know if that has changed or not, but the dialect is certainly more common these days.

Dictionary.com quotation:

"Professor Booker T. Washington, being politely interrogated ... as to whether negroes ought to be called 'negroes' or 'members of the colored race' has replied that it has long been his own practice to write and speak of members of his race as negroes, and when using the term 'negro' as a race designation to employ the capital 'N' " ["Harper's Weekly," June 2, 1906]


I'm sure Booker T. Washington (4.00 / 1)
is Harry Reid's kind of Negro.

In all seriousness, southern black dialect fascinated William Alexander Percy too. Harry Reid's use of the outmoded if not overtly offensive Negro, his reference to Obama's facility with code switching and the light-skinned observation are all too much of a piece.  Reid's statement, even and perhaps especially when intended as a compliment, reeks of a genteel white elitist culture that condescends to blacks by, among other things, expressing shock when black people speak in complete sentences.    

The guy may be perfectly comfortable with a black man marrying his daughter (if he has one), but his comment was transparently racist.  

Moreover, poor black people, as with poor people in general, are at a disadvantage when taking reading tests because of the systematic lack of resources, and following from that, exposure to specific types of information from an early age moving forward, both at home and in the classroom, not because of "ebonics."  


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NEGRO IS OFFENSIVE (4.00 / 1)
News flash - to most African Americans "NEGRO" IS OFFENSIVE!!!

And we get to decide on what offends us not you - or Harry Reid, or the Census Bureau!

Now I know it's a brave new world, what with an African American president and all, but, folks, just to remind you, Jim Crow is dead, slavery is over and we are free Americans just like you - African Americans.

We are not your "Negroes"!!!!!!!!

Gregory A. Butler


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Take that, white devils!!!!!!!! (4.00 / 1)
Your twelve exclamation points dealt a serious blow to lingering racism, I'm sure.

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I never claimed anyone (0.00 / 0)
Using the word "Negro" as in "American Negro Spiritual" is something Afro-American (does saying that make you my Afro-American?") scholars do every day.  

Take the time to read a bit more carefully before you jump to offensive conclusions, even and especially on an admittedly charged topic like this.


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Cut the bullshit (0.00 / 0)
Reid's statement is, first and foremost, an accurate political observation.  Candidate Obama's "blackness" and the perception of it by white Americans (during the campaign and beyond) is a fascinating topic that deserves better than your tendentious, pretentious, holier-than-thou, know-it-all throwaway comment.

Most people with familiarity of American culture of the past forty years would avoid using the word "Negro", true, but are we really supposed to pretend that someone who does use it (in reference to a language pattern, and not in this case even a person) said something completely different than what they said?

...

No love on my part for Reid, by the way.  I'd rather see him reelected than a Republican, but I can certainly see the appeal of him no longer being majority leader.


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I agree that Obama's ability to persuade white voters deserves study (0.00 / 0)
And if you read carefully what I wrote above, I said the use of the word "Negro" was not offensive in and of itself.  

Reid's racist comments, which went well beyond the use of the word "Negro" (and that wasn't in a clinical context, like "Negro Spiritual"), in no way represent a call for "study", as evinced by President Obama's belief that they merited an apology.  

There are ways of making "an accurate political observation" that do not recapitulate unreflectively the mindset that one is trying to understand and analyze.  Your criticism of my comment is naive.    


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I don't think it's a god defense for Reid to pretend he's stuck... (0.00 / 0)
...in the late 19th and early 20th century, BA!

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I really hope a Dem steps up to the plate... (4.00 / 1)
... but failing that, I'd rather throw him to the wolves just to get him out of the Majority Leader's office than anything else. His 60-vote rule gives me heartburn several times a week now... among other things.

I could be wrong about this, but on the heels of some really bad intra-party news, it might make for some good progressive propaganda to make an example of him. He's weak, it would be easy. It also might motivate a few other incumbents to start listening to us. As much as I've soured on Chuck Schumer, I think he's next in line and who wouldn't prefer him to Reid as ML?

Then again, I could just be talking out of my metaphorical derrière. But it's a pleasant stream of thought, isn't it? Does this comment make my butt look fat?

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates


Dick Durbin (4.00 / 2)
As Senate Majority Whip (succeeding Reid as Democratic whip), I suspect he is considered next in line.

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OK, Durbin is some really weak tea, but still better than Reid, maybe. (0.00 / 0)
Mostly, he'll do whatever Obama tells him to. Hmmm. Which will be a lot like Reid, sadly.... but he perhaps he might at least kill the 60-vote rule. Maybe.

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates

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Durbin's instincts (0.00 / 0)
are obviously liberal and progressive. But his problem is he's a big time Obama loyalist...so the WH will pretty much control the Senate.  

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Define weak tea (4.00 / 1)
If Progressive Punch is a useful measure, the only Democrat who has been in the Senate for at least one full term who scores high in crucial or overall votes for either the current session or lifetime is Jack Reed.

The other contenders who I have seen talked about are Chuck Schumer and John Kerry and Durbin is clearly to the left of either.

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There is no one .. (0.00 / 0)
to step up to the plate .. because Reid is the Democratic Party in Nevada .. yes .. it's kind of like the Daley's in Chicago .. in a way ... so the best we can hope is to make sure Brunner wins in OH .. Carnahan in Missouri .. and Hodes in NH .. so we can hold serve .. while losing ND and Nevada

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I know nothing about Nevada politics (0.00 / 0)
But Dick Durbin would be a good replacement for Reid.

First Daschle now this -hmmmm, I wonder how the MSM will spin this?

Seems like a good time to get away from small state, mealy mouthed so-called "centrist" Senate Majority Leaders.  


you sure that SCHUMER is gonna wait for DURBIN? (0.00 / 0)
I suspect there's gonna be some blood in the water before the March 12 Nevada filing deadline, if not the day after the November election, in the Democratic Senate Caucus (which presumably will NOT include Lieberman)

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Get a union guy in there (4.00 / 5)
Make it the Year of the Outsider.

Find a non-white candidate (0.00 / 0)
Get him or her to agree to run a sort-of suicide bomber political campaign that will only focus on a scorched earth blitz whose only goal is to make Reid even more unelectable unless he steps down.  Have this hypothetical candidate engage in the sort of outrageously racially stereotypical behavior that will make Fox New happy to have him or her on their shows.

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Are you working for the GOP? (0.00 / 0)
Really, sry, but what's this kind of crap good for? Isn't it our goal to get progressives elected, not to simply abandon seats to the right wingers? Don't you shar that goal?

Come on, Tony, "scorched earth"! That's a terrorist strategy, used by the Nazis, too, btw.


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Just pointing out the alternative (4.00 / 1)
Either accept Reid, warts and all, or force him to give up by offering him a no-win situation.  Since there seems to be no viable primary challenge, anything else is ineffective whining.

Of course, we are all terrorists now.  

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Maybe (4.00 / 3)
If Reid loses, the Republicans will have bumped off two Majority Leaders in near succession: Tom Daschle and Harry Reid.  The last time that happened in the 1950s they bumped off Scot Lucas and Ernest MacFarland (spelling may be off) and we wound up with Lyndon Johnson.

Nice thought, huh.


I hope Schumer's the next guy... (0.00 / 0)
Unlike Durbin, he kicks ass and takes names...

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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You're kidding, right? (4.00 / 3)


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Well, he voted against the amended FISA bill (0.00 / 0)
but he voted for cloture. knowing the bill would pass an up or down vote on the floor. So, the second half of that statement may be correct, anyway.

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On behalf of Wall Street, perhaps (4.00 / 1)


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That's why Reid has to be replaced in the primary! (4.00 / 1)
Let's not allow the GOP to score another kill. Let's put up pressure on Rid to resign at the end of the term instead. Many other Dems do, so this would be the face saving way out for him.  

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Don't fall into Halperin's trap... (4.00 / 1)
He wrote this book as a way to divide Democrats, and it appears to be working!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


Give me a break!! ... (0.00 / 0)
I dislike Halperin as much as the next guy .. but given the statements by Reid and Obama .. it's obvious Reid said it .. besides .. as John Cole said .. while this isn't huge ... it's like the final nail in the coffin .. it just shows that Harry Reid has to go

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It just shows that Reid is old... (4.00 / 2)
My ex-MIL still calls African American "colored"... she means no intentional disrepect by it, just that's the term that was used when she was a little girl and that's what she learned.  Negro was the common term up through the 60's, until the term "black" came in vogue in the 70's, and African American in the late 80's.

Yes, Reid is clueless... we all know that, but I doubt he's malicious... just from a different generation that still is dealing with a lot of ignorance.

Reid's got to go for a lot of reasons... mainly, his horrid leadership over the years... but, over this?  I'd rather oust him for his incompetence instead of ignorance.

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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Yeah, this seems much ado about nothing (4.00 / 1)
Of all the reasons for Reid to go this isn't it.  Not to sound insensitive but if Reid was able to use his legislative skills to pass Medicare for All he could call them the N word for all I care...  

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That says a lot about you. (0.00 / 0)
Too much, really.

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Dunno what this says about you, willf... (0.00 / 0)
...that you're so eager to make it look as if other good progressives here are racist. But it reminds me of the horrible primary discussions 2008. Where you one of those who constantly had the race card in their hands, and who always interpreted the statements of others in the worst possible way, no matter how farfetched the accusation was?
:-/

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Oops, ya got me. (4.00 / 1)
Yes, I admit it,  I w(h)as one of those who constantly had the race card in their hands, and I was always eager to interpret the statements of others in the worst possible way, no matter how farfetched the accusation.

Gosh, am I chagrined.

And, you know, not to sound insensitive, but I don't really care to hear what price "a good progressive" puts on someone else's dignity, hence the TMI comment.


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This wouldn't even be charge #5 ... (0.00 / 0)
but .. it's just the kind of thing that pushes it over the top .. as Chris says ... it's just another example of being out of touch

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That's not the point (0.00 / 0)

My ex-MIL still calls African American "colored"... she means no intentional disrepect by it, just that's the term that was used when she was a little girl and that's what she learned.

Same for my MIL, whom I love, neither is inherently a racist term....

....but Reid's statement smacks of, Look at that, a well-spoken Negro.  That is the offense.

Still Obama has been able to look beyond a similar sin by Biden, I'm sure he's seen and heard worse.  I wouldn't make much of it, beyond the incredible stupidity of it, and what it tells us about the upper echelons of our elitist society.


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This is old stuff. We shouldn't base a campaign against Reid on that. (0.00 / 0)
Don't give that asshole Halperin any additional publicity! Progressive have their own complaints about Reid, that's stuff we should talk about. But firstly, it should be determined if there's a good progressive challenger for Reid's seat. Or do we simply want to do the GOP's job here???

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The "final nail in the coffin"? Pls check your timetable! (0.00 / 0)
That's old stuff from during the campaign. The "final nail" is the healthcare debacle, of course. Let's concentrate on progressive arguments against Reid, not on the exaggerated old crap that the GOP throws at him!

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Exaggerated? .. (0.00 / 0)
considering the responses .. I doubt the Reid quote was exaggerated .. Reid's just an out of touch goof ... that's the whole point ... why would Reid say this on the record?  and if off the record ... why did he say this to someone untrustworthy? .. is he that tone deaf that he doesn't understand Versailles(or that others might use Versailles against him)?

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The exaggeration is making a quote from 2008 a big issue now! (0.00 / 0)
This happened during the heated primary campaign. And I don't think progressives should make a big issues of it. Let the GOP do the mudwrestling. Bring forth more political arguments to force Reid to retire.

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The problem is .. (0.00 / 0)
we only found out about it now ... would you say the same thing .. if Edwards was elected President .. and all this crap came out now? .. would you just chalk that up to Halperin trying to damage Democrats and say it should be swept under the rug? .. I am not saying the Reid thing is that big a deal .. just saying it's about #25 on "Reasons why Reid Should be like Chris Dodd and do the honorable thing"

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Yeah, that's a point. (0.00 / 0)
And I'm not for sweeping this under the rug, of course. I just wish the debate about Reid would more concentrate on his less than satisfying performance. But maybe this argument would be more difficult to sell to the voters...

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Yeah, god forbid we actually talk about what our public officials do for us (4.00 / 1)
when there are so many "juicier" issues like "Negro", sex lives, Arabic-sounding middle names, how much money is spent on clothes...

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...the cost of haircuts... (0.00 / 0)
...missing label pins...
...helmets that are too big...
...suits in the "wrong" color...
High entertainment value, sure, but where's the beef? Most of the time, the public political discourse makes less sense than a Tim Burton movie°. It's horrible.

(°if you're a Tim Burton fan, insert something else that doesn't make sense to you)


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Don't fall into Halperin's trap... (4.00 / 1)
He wrote this book as a way to divide Democrats, and it appears to be working!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


Anything that removes Reid (4.00 / 1)
from the Majority Leader position is good news.  

Maybe (likely? Almost certainly?) Durbin or Schumer would be just as bad as Reid in terms of yielding to GOP filibuster threats, but there is nothing to lose at this point.  The fact is that, regardless of Reid's weaknesses, the Democrats are not going to retain 60 members in their caucus.  Might as well start looking for someone who has a clue about fighting for legislation without a supermajority.


Not "anything"! Let's not do the job of the GOP. (0.00 / 0)
We progressives have our own arguments against Reid, and we should use them to replac him in the primary. Let's not fall to the lows of parroting hypocritical GOP talking points. We're better than that!

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Run a Grayson/Sanders type figure (0.00 / 0)


There are none.... (0.00 / 0)
Unfortunately, there aren't any. No, really. The best you're gonna get is Jack Carter, who lost badly in 2006, although it would be nice payback....

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reid needs to go (0.00 / 0)
chris i agree. the reid thing isnt jsut bad for reid- its bad for the party. he is the dem maj leader and was the no.. 1 story on the nightly news i watched. thats right- all about reid's comments. and reid confiming he made them and apologizing with obama accepting is a story that needs to go away. i saw on politico al sharpton plans to defend reid but other aas are furious. new poll shows reid now at 33 pct approval. reid needs to go.  

Don't trust anything you read on Politico! (0.00 / 0)
Come on, Al Sharpton? This sounds like total nonsense a stupid rethuglican just pulled out of his ass!

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Has anyone polled generic Democrat or other potential candidates? (4.00 / 1)
I ask because it's getting somewhat late to mount new campaigns unless we're running a self-financing millionaire.

It's The Economy (4.00 / 3)
As Chris notes, the economy is Reid's problem.  The electorate in Nevada is ornary even in good times.  People I know in Nevada just laugh at the notion that Reid can pull it out.  In less than a year this has somehow become an economy that people blame on Democrats.  Memories are very short term.  He could still win, I'd set the odds at 1 in 3 but I'd have a harder time explaining a scenaro for a Democratic/Reid comeback.  One thing is sure -- Reid will have big, big money.

I've always been surprised that Reid got nothing, politically, for killing the Yucca Mountain Nuke waste project.  More short term memory loss in Nevada.


I thought the plan was for Reid to "vaporize" his opponent (0.00 / 0)
with his vast war chest.  Hell, it worked for Gray Davis in 2002.

Unless we have some extraordinary liberal star waiting in the wings, I say we let Reid give it a shot.  There's no point in raising all that money only to retire.  And frankly there are more important races for us to focus on, e.g. OH, CA-36, GA-12, PA.


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Don't forget how great the replacement worked so far for the Dems! (0.00 / 0)
Really, this is showing that a rethuglican Senator could easily turn out to be MUCH worse than Reid. That's not something progressives should want, either. And, btw, did Gray outspend Schwarzenegger? Prolly not, right? The problem wasn't the war chest, the problem was the missing popularity. And that's the same with Reid. But still, he should be replaced by the Dems, not by the GOP!  

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Sure, but is there a GOOD Democratic replacement for Reid? (0.00 / 0)
I don't know much about NV politics but it doesn't seem like we have a strong bench there.  Also, we need to test if Reid's problems are really just his own (like Dodd in CT) or would face those of any Democrat.  The last thing I want is for Reid to retire only to hand the nomination to an untested weakling who ends up getting creamed anyway.

Let's come up with someone we really want as the next Senator from Nevada before we mindlessly chant for the head of an incumbent who might be weak but at least can pay his own way out.


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Yeah, that's the question. (0.00 / 0)
And I don't have the answer, sry,lm...

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Harry Reid has become unelectable (4.00 / 2)
I'm definitely no Harry Reid apologist, but it does seem that the media and blogs have been really going for Harry's jugular recently, particularly when the guy hasn't been doing anything different than what he usually does (i.e giving cover to the corporate factions of the Senate), as well as fact he wasn't the only Democrat during the campaign to bring up Obama's race in a negative way!

Wondering if this is really all about Harry getting the sack early to make way for our new corporate/war hack majority leader? Same agenda of course but fresh face?

Plus, although it might be true that 'Harry Reid has become unelectable' -- lets not forget that DLC  Blanche Lincoln ain't looking too good either -- What about doing an updated electability post on her chances?

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Let Him Lose! (4.00 / 1)
We can't remake the democratic party with this same group in power.

I am totally in favor of health care reform.
I am diametrically opposed to health insurance reform.


you're right, but this incident will blow over... (0.00 / 0)
Harry Reid's remarks about Obama won't hurt him.  I don't think Blacks and Hispanics will be offended - I'm Black and I'm not offended at all.  Reid told the truth, just in a politically incorrect manner.  I think most minorities will cut Reid a lot of slack for gaffes like that.

All that said, Reid may well be unelectable at this point. He's polling at about 40%, and that's just awful for an incumbent.  Even worse, his unfavorables are up past 50%, and when that happens, an incumbent is usually toast.  In AR, Blanche Lincoln is polling just as poorly - she really needs to be primaried, primarily by Lt. Gov. Halter.

So, where do we go from here?  There aren't any good answers.  Reid is the majority leader - he can't really walk way at this point.  There's no precedent for a lame-duck majority leader.  Also, as you mentioned, who would replace him?  There's no obvious candidate, unlike CT and AR.

At this point, we'd be better off working on primarying Lincoln in Arkansas, and then asking the folks in NV is there's anything we can do to help.  Maybe we should fund some 3rd party candidate.  That could help some - as well as passing amendments to bills that would really help the folks in NV.


"There's no precedent for a lame-duck majority leader." (0.00 / 0)
Bill Frist, c. 2005-2007

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true enough about Frist... (0.00 / 0)
Yeah - that's true - Bill Frist was a lame-duck majority leader.  Look how well that worked out for the Republicans!

Retiring is an option - but given that the Dems are going to have the majority for some years in the future, there's no real incentive for him to go, and there's still no real person to replace him.


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"he can't really walk way at this point"? He can always retire! (0.00 / 0)
Best time to do that now, when others have made the same decision, too, and while Reid is still at the prime of his power. It can only go downhill for him from now on. Why not chose the face saving way out while he's still at the top?  Certainly a good idea.

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This 'minority' will NOT cut Harry Reid any slack! (4.00 / 1)
Look, this Harry Reid guy feels he's allowed to judge how African Americans speak - but he's too stupid to know that we haven't been "Negroes" since the big urban uprisings of the 1960's.

So no, I'm not cutting Harry Reid a damned bit of slack - on this or anything else!

Gregory A. Butler


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That's a made up controversy. Old stuff, warmed up to sell Halperin's book. (0.00 / 0)
And that center/right hack is a regular and uncriticial stenographers of GOP talking points. Let's not give him additional publicity here!

Sounds like an ideal state for the greens to build their (0.00 / 0)
party.

My blog  

Well, maybe. (4.00 / 1)
However, if they're honest, Greens would have to argue to close that monstrous atrocity of an irresponsible waste of resource, Las Vegas. And I don't think that would be popular in Nevada.

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Nevada is one of the last... (4.00 / 1)
places I'd ever expect the "Greens" to do well but a fresh faced, new, populist progressive might do very well indeed if he had a sensible message about jobs and the economy.  The problem is that I'm not sure there is anyone in the whole state who fits that description.

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Yeah, Nevada has some positive aspects for Greens, too. (0.00 / 0)
Perfect area to implement solar and wind power, offsetting the highly above average energy consumption of Las Vegas. Programs supporting those alternative energies could provide jobs and make the state a spearhead in adjusting to the problems of the 21st century. You're right, all it takes is a charismatic leader spreading the right messages to get the party on track. Sadly, such persons are quite rare in politics.

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