Landrieu blames liberal Dems, doesn't name single thing passed into law Conservadems opposed

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Jan 21, 2010 at 17:15


Mary Landrieu wants to blame the current political environment on liberals:

"The loss in Massachusetts should serve as a wake-up call to the wing of the Democratic Party that wants the federal government to overreach and overspend," said Senator Mary L. Landrieu, Democrat of Louisiana. "We need to get back to the basics."

As Matthew Yglesias says, talk about never taking responsibility for anything.

Name one single thing that the Senate has passed into law over the past year that a majority of Evan Bayh's "moderate working group" voted against.  One thing.

I'll help you try and find examples.  Here is a list of the Senate Dems moderate working group caucus:

"Leading the new group are Democratic Sens. Evan Bayh of Indiana, Tom Carper of Delaware and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas... [O]thers joining the group are Sens. Michael Bennet of Colorado, Mark Begich of Alaska, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Bill Nelson of Florida, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Mark Udall of Colorado, and Mark Warner of Virginia."

Arlen Specter has since joined the group.

Also, here is a complete list of Senate votes in 2009.

So go ahead--find examples of legislation that was passed into law without a majority of the so-called "moderate" wing of the Democratic Party approving.  Hell, find anything that passed the Senate in 2009 without majority approval.

Can't do it?  Of course you can't.  Because it doesn't exist.

Not a single public law was passed in 2009 without the majority approval of Evan Bayh's "moderate working group."  Hell, nothing was passed without a two-thirds supermajority of Evan Bayh's working group.

Given that everything that passed the Senate passed with the approval of the majority of the so called "moderate" wing, it is difficult to fathom exactly how Mary Landrieu thinks that her wing of the party is free of blame for the current political environment for Democrats.  Her wing of the party approved of everything that passed the Senate, and what didn't pass the Senate.  More Yglesias:

But in the world that exists, the only "wing" that matters is the Mary Landrieu wing. They decide how much stimulus we get. They decide their can't be a public option. They decide their needs to be a months-long quest to get Chuck Grassley to offer "Republican cover" for a health care vote. Either the strategy is working better than the alternatives, or else it's the Landrieu wing that needs to change things up. But defeats can't be the fault of the people who haven't been in the driver's seat since the seventies.

Your wing of the party controlled legislation in 2009, Landrieu.  If you think that voters are rejecting what legislation was passed, then the only conclusion is that they are rejecting you.  But of course, you will never draw that conclusion, because you are always right, no matter what, even when you lie.

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I suppose (0.00 / 0)
They could argue it's about what didn't pass that they wanted to pass but the liberals didn't let them have, but then, I can't think of anything they would have wanted to do that wasn't on the Republican agenda.  Would more tax cuts really affect the political environment?  Keeping the F22?  

That's the problem with "centrism" there is no ideological fountain on which it can draw.  It only defines itself as between two ends, so if liberal ideas aren't what Landrieu wanted to do, then what conservative ideas does she think would have helped?  Tort reform?


Here's an idea... (0.00 / 0)
Why don't we try actual progressive ideas and see if people like that, for once?

I'm sick of talking about the Landrieu types. (4.00 / 5)
They have no power that isn't ceded to them by the rest of the caucus, since any 50 Senators + Biden could nuke the filibuster any time they choose. They don't WANT to govern, and hiding behind the likes of Landrieu gives them a handy excuse. Talking about her as though she had any independent power just helps them hide.

Let (help) them all lose? (4.00 / 3)
I'm hard pressed to find a good reason why any Democratic senator deserves support or re-election. They -- all 59* of them -- made an ungodly mess of a generational chance at HCR and dumped an absolute turd back on the House. They -- all of them -- made an ungodly mess of the stimulus bill. They're well on their way to cocking up financial reform. The estate tax was allowed to sunset. Etc. Etc. There isn't a single one of them that has the courage to make a stand for what is right. Not one.

With the country crying out for Change(!) all these geniuses gave us was ... Sausage.

Landrieu has it partly right. They should be pointing fingers at each other and placing blame. All of them. Every last one. Frankly, a circular firing squad is entirely in order here. They're all to blame and they all deserve to be fired.

FAIL.

* Lieberman doesn't count. He's never been a Democrat.

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


Don't put sausage in a bad light! (4.00 / 7)
Sausage is a tasty, popular food with a long tradition, and its preparation requires good craftmanship. It should be obvious that this is beyond the Senators' abilities! All they can do are Shit Sanbdwiches.

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Apropos Shit Sandwich - I have a new business idea! (0.00 / 0)
You know those sets dog owners buy to dispose their little darlings droppings? How about selling a new, a bit different one: The usual pair of one-way gloves, but instead of cardboard two slices of sandwich toast (ecologically prolly even better than slow growing wood used for cardboard), and instead of a plastic bag a post enevelope with the bureau address of a Senator on it? Instead of looking for a waste basket (can be rare), the users could use the mailbox!

And while postal charges would make this more expensive than the usual set, imho this would be more than outweighed by the additional value of the deep satisfaction from having made a strong smelling poltical statement!

I put this business idea into the public domain. Feel free to use it!


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I'm sure sausage would like its good name back... (4.00 / 1)
However shit sandwich is much too 'one-note' to encompass all of the bad actors and bad acts of this mess.

The real outrage of Landrieu's remarks is that policy (right or left) wasn't nearly as important to the public outrage as was the insider, backroom horsetrading -- politics as usual when we demanded change -- done by herself and her conserv-wanker pals. And it was always about goodies for themselves and their political interests, not about getting something that the public actually wanted.

Chris rightly points out that they got their desires policies. It was their process that stunk to high heaven. I guess it's the hippie senator's fault they had to do it. After all there a so many hippie senators...

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


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The Village loves (4.00 / 8)
this spin.  They grew up on it in the Reagan years and then in the Clinton second term.

Make her pay in 2012.

Make lincoln pay this year.  

I believe in revenge.  Until we cause losses, progressives will not be taken seriously.

Lincoln is toast in Arkansas.  Let's help her along tp defeat.  Halter needs ot get in or a third party needs to have a candidate.  

They need to pay with their senate seats.

It's simple justice.  


Landrieu's up in 2014 (4.00 / 1)
and probably will be toast then.  Running in a conservative-trending state, with no black president at the top of the ticket to drive up black turnout, in what could be the President's sixth year (if it's a Republican President then it might be a little better) and with national Republicans surely gunning for her.

Bye bye.

But I'm not gonna help her lose to a Republican either.  I'll just ignore her and support candidates I actually like.  We won't save conservative Democrats, but we don't have to go out of our way and spend precious time and energy to replace them with conservative Republicans either.


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What Chutspah! (0.00 / 0)
The reason why so many are opposed to the Senate Health Bill is that Landrieu got a special medicaid deal, and now she's saying it's OUR fault?

Please!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


I don't think that's the reason (0.00 / 0)
that many are opposed to the senate bill.

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Why do these people run for political office? (4.00 / 3)

 They never want to DO anything.

 And that includes Obama. I've never seen such a complete, total abdication of leadership in a president.

 George W. Bush was a loathsome, evil person. But he was a vastly better leader than Barack Obama. He got his agenda passed -- with far smaller Senate numbers than his successor enjoyed (and still enjoys).

 I wouldn't be surprised if the Democratic Party disintegrates soon. It stands for nothing. It features no coherent platform. It has no message besides "we're not as bad as the other guys". Its brand has taken a beating. It's allergic to power. The other guys state from the beginning that they have only one purpose in life -- to prevent Obama from enacting any successful policy proposals. And Obama's reaction is to give them all a big salute.

 I've moved into bitterly-disappointed territory, to the point where I'm cruising New Zealand-migration websites. Thsi was our one last big chance to rescue the country, and we failed miserably, because our party has virtually no leaders who have any interest in the good of the country. I didn't expect Obama to be a miracle worker. But I never though he'd be THIS tone-deaf and ineffective.

 The Great Depression was a tragedy. This is the farce.

 

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


the same reason hip hop sucked in '96 (0.00 / 0)
... it's the money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.


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Bush was loathsome president, indeed… (0.00 / 0)
...and he got his agenda passed by employing unsavory methods that turned everyone into cronies who were afraid to cross his staff. To borrow a phrase from hip-hop, the Bushies had the gov't (the culture, even) on lockdown.

Theoretically, Obama, the progressive caucus, whomever, shouldn't have to behave that way to get their agenda passed--because a solid majority of the public is actually behind much of what they wanna do. That's what makes the current mess so damn pathetic.  

"This ain't for the underground. This here is for the sun." -Saul Williams


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Here's why they have power... (0.00 / 0)
Because they're really just Republicans.

If you add those 15 names to Republican side, you get a 55-45 Republican Senate.

Sheep in wools clothing...

www.guerillapost.com


Landrieu is just spouting the approved DLC line. (4.00 / 1)
"It's the left's fault" is the primary talking point for DLCers, and has been since their foundation. Nothing new here.

Just proves the point... (4.00 / 1)
Maybe we should change IOKIYAR to IOKIYAC. Conservatives believe whole-heartedly in responsibility - as long as it's someone else's. It doesn't seem to matter if it's Dem or Rethug.

"I Didn't Do It" (0.00 / 0)
Worked for Bart Simpson...  Maybe if the "Moderate Working Group" talked to the right people at FOX they could use Bart's rap song in a promo advertisement.

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