Drop-off voters much happier with state of country than likely voters

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Jan 28, 2010 at 10:30


Two recent Democracy Corps polls present counter-intuitive findings about the nature of "drop-off voters" (that is, people who voted in 2008 but who are unlikely to vote in 2010).  According to the polls, those who voted in 2008, but who are unlikely to vote in 2010, are much more positive about the direction of the country than people who are likely to vote in 2010.

This finding is important, because it damages a theory, prevalent in progressive circles, that drop-off voters are motivated primarily by a growing cynicism with the failure of Democrats to deliver on sweeping change.  Here are the numbers:

Democracy Corps, January
Q.10 Generally speaking, do you think that things in this country are going in the right direction, or do you feel things have gotten pretty seriously off on the wrong track?
Likely Voters Drop off Voters
Right Direction 36% 45%
Wrong Track 58% 43%
Net -21% +2%

Democracy Corps, November
Q.10 Generally speaking, do you think that things in this country are going in the right direction, or do you feel things have gotten pretty seriously off on the wrong track?
Likely Voters Drop off Voters
Right Direction 35% 42%
Wrong Track 58% 50%
Net -23% -8%
(The sub-sample of drop-off voters is small in both polls (133 in January, 125 in November).  As such, it has a large margin or error of about plus or minus 8.5%.

However, margin of error can break both ways, and the odds or a poll erring closer to its published, topline numbers are higher than the odds of a poll erring toward the outer boundaries of its margin of error.  As such, even with that 8.5% margin of error, there is a very high probability that drop-off voters have a more positive opinion about the direction of the country than likely voters.)

As that's not all.  As I discuss in the extended entry, drop-off voters also have a more favorable view of their incumbent member of Congress, and are less likely to reject the two-party system than likely voters.  Plus, they like President Obama, Democrats, and the health care bill.

More in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Drop-off voters much happier with state of country than likely voters
Even beyond the direction of the country numbers, there are more signs pointing against the "cynicism for failing to deliver on change" theory.  According to these two polls, drop-off voters have a more positive view of their incumbent members of Congress than likely voters.  Also, drop-off voters are less likely to say that neither party represents their values.  Further, drop-off voters are less likely to support third-party candidates in hypothetical polls about 2012 (3% Nader, 5% Dobbs) than are likely voters (4% Nader, 6% Dobbs).

Drop-off voters like Democrats, too.  They approve of President Obama's job performance (61%-33% across the two polls) more than likely voters (48%-47%).  Compared to likely voters, drop-offs have a more positive view of the Democratic Party in every single category the polls measured.  In fact, they even like the health care bill by a 52%-35% margin, while likely voters oppose it by a 39%-55%.

In summary, compared to likely voters, drop-off voters have a much more positive view about the direction of the country, a more favorable view of their incumbent member of Congress, and are less likely to reject the two-party system.  This is hardly a group growing cynical with the system in general.  Oh, and they like President Obama, Democrats, and the health care bill.

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If we are going to advance progressive causes, we need to do so with accurate information.  Inaccurate theories about the nature of the electorate can lead to lost and ineffective campaigns.  I pursue these studies not to argue against pursuing left-wing causes, but rather to find the best means of achieving them.

The numbers presented here make it very difficult to argue that the primary reason Democrats are less likely to vote in 2010 is because of growing cynicism about the country, President Obama and the Democratic Party.  Surely there are some (former) voters like that, but they do not appear to dominate the the drop-off group.

It would be a mistake to attribute any single motivation to drop-off voters, and multiple causes are probably at work.  In fact, as I discuss in an article later today, there is also the strong possibility that there is nothing Democrats can do to motivate the base beyond current levels.  Stay tuned.


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So this means that the reason is... (0.00 / 0)
not anger at the direction of the country...

but complacency?


Any demographic data on who these people are and where they live? (4.00 / 2)
The "drop-off voter" sounds suspiciously like the "soccer mom," or whatever hieroglyphic the MSM will use to describe the well-to-do, suburban, white-collar "independent" voters that the Democrats have targeted over the past three decades.  

The democrats need to expand interest among the far larger contingent of working-class voters, and stop creating policies to fight over people who are too well off to care about voting.  We need to think of ways that we can grow the voting base of the Democratic party, and fighting over people who are already satisfied with the system isn't going to do it.    

While you claim correctly that inaccurate info makes for bad politics, the bottom line is people want policies that will improve their lives.  People who don't vote because they don't feel it makes a difference who wins seems a far bigger problem than "drop-offs."  I know you stand for the right things Chris, but this slew of deterministic "forces beyond the control of current Democratic policymaking" articles doesn't really add much to the debate we need to foreground right now.  

   


Or maybe the need to expand the electorate is the logical conclusion (0.00 / 0)
of a piece like this.

Not that it's what you're doing, but let's just not spend too much time worrying about people for whom Obama represents "Change They Can Believe In" to the extent that they no longer care to vote.  


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Race Matters (4.00 / 2)
It doesn't show up so much in the January Democracy Corps poll, perhaps due to the small sample size, but the November numbers show a race gap which one would expect, given the enthusiasm gap between blacks and Democrats as a whole in the Daily Kos poll's crosstabs.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

One problem is that (4.00 / 1)
these are self-identified "drop-off" voters.  The problem that the Dems face is among the unmotivated activist base.  They aren't going to tell you 6-24 months in advance that they won't be voting.

My guess is that you have the causation backwards.  It isn't that "drop-off voters" are disproportionately satisfied with Obama/Dem performance.  It is that people who are satisfied with their performance are less likely to anticipate voting since they think the country is on the right track.

My hunch is that Dems still have a real problem with an unmotivated base that will be reflected in a falloff in participation across the board:  Those who would donate a lot may only donate a little.  Those who would canvas and phone bank might only donate.  Those who would donate might only vote.  And those who would only vote might still intend to vote, but if something comes up they may not follow through.

There is nothing in the "drop-off voter" numbers that changes my view on this.


drop-off voters (4.00 / 1)
I think we used to call most of them "non-voters." They voted because of Obama himself or disgust with Bush. Perhaps some who registered to vote for Hillary and stay involved through Nov. 2008.

They are for what Obama is for and happy Bush is gone. Generally content. Not too political in general.


This is plausible (0.00 / 0)
and polling provides useful data.

But looking at what needs to be done in terms of asking: of the percentage of registered voters, who are the people who voted for Obama but aren't voting now, then using this to define our electoral predicament and its relationship to policy is a deeply flawed approach.  


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Well, but WHO ARE those drop offers? Wealthy libs? (0.00 / 0)
Satisfied with the state of the union, satisfied with the Dems? Really, WHO ARE those people? WHERE are they? WHAT do they do? This raises more questions than answers!

Really, imho a deeper analysis is necessary before being able to draw any conclusions.


guesses: (4.00 / 2)
Former non-voters. Disproportionately young and/or non-white. Maybe some wealthy apolitical types but I think many more who are lower on the economic ladder. Their circumstances haven't gotten much worse because they weren't great to begin with. Generally non-political. Wouldn't know a Nader from a Larouche. Voted for, and because of, Obama.

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I wouldn't be shocked (0.00 / 0)
If some of these voters will only vote in the mid-term election if there is a candidate who they think strongly backs Obama.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

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they're the people that don't vote in midterm elections (4.00 / 2)
For example, I see that only 28% of them say they voted in 2006 but 95% of them say they voted in 2008. 95% of likely voters claim they voted in 2006. 86% of the drop-off voters report at least a 50-50 chance they will vote so it's theoretically possible they'll vote but in reality a lot won't vother.

Now, I agree it is cute to say these people are wealthy libs but I can't believe your model of the American electorate is  that the millions of people who vote only in Presidential elections are wealthy.


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Should we simply give up on them? They could make the difference! (0.00 / 0)
Really, this is a huge eservoi of potential Dem voters who will b missing at the polls. If this target goup can be sufficiently defined, it should be possible to address and motivate them with specific messaging. Just imagine the difference this would make!

Motivated volunteers (4.00 / 1)
I wonder whether motivation isn't still the biggest factor. One aspect of the Oregon win was that there were huge numbers of highly motivated volunteers out banging on doors and making phone calls. How much impact did that have on getting people to vote who didn't really think their vote would matter? The only thing that's going to get voters who don't think there vote is necessary is personal contact, and the only thing that will produce that personal contact is volunteers who believe in the campaign. Right now, Democrats aren't presenting the kinds of clear-cut arguments that will motivate volunteers to knock on doors. Volunteers who don't really believe the candidates will do what's really needed are going to have a hard time convincing people to vote who are comfortable with the way things are.  

I believe the real massachusetts results and not (4.00 / 2)
theoretical drop off voters.  Those voters didn't show up because they were deeply unhappy with the democrats.

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Indeed, Research2000 shows high dissatisfaction among Obama voters (4.00 / 2)
Just one example, from 2008 voters who stayed at home:

QUESTION: Generally speaking do you think Barack Obama and Democrats in Washington, DC are delivering enough on the change Obama promised to bring to America during the campaign?
YES NO NOT SURE
ALL 37% 49% 14%
MEN 35% 52% 13%
WOMEN 39% 46% 15%
DEMOCRATS 39% 47% 14%

I mean, sure those vpotes would have made a difference! And the best way to motivate them, is obviously, better Dem bills, especially, but not only, on healthcare. Giving up on those good folks would be WRONG! Try harder.


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Sure -- they already did it (0.00 / 0)
They voted in 2008, got a new President, what more should they do?

I'm serious. I see that all over.

Can it happen here?


Me too (0.00 / 0)
I'm not surprised more drop off voters are positive about the future of the country. They see Obama as in control of it, there's no reason for them to be involved.  

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