I always wondered why Howard Zinn was considered a radical. (He called himself a radical.) He was an unbelievably decent man who felt obliged to challenge injustice and unfairness wherever he found it. What was so radical about believing that workers should get a fair shake on the job, that corporations have too much power over our lives and much too much influence with the government, that wars are so murderously destructive that alternatives to warfare should be found, that blacks and other racial and ethnic minorities should have the same rights as whites, that the interests of powerful political leaders and corporate elites are not the same as those of ordinary people who are struggling from week to week to make ends meet?
The answer to Herbert's question is simple: "Radical" comes from the Greek root "radic", meaning "root." A radical is one who doesn't mess around, but goes right to the root of the problem in seeking to set things right. It's one of the nicest things you can say about anyone, to call them a radical, like Howard Zinn.
One of the best tributes to the late Howard Zinn was heard on Democracy Now with Noam Chomsky, Alice Walker, Naomi Klein and Anthony Arnove. Before turning to her guests, however, Amy replayed part of an 2005 interview with Zinn, where he talked about his experience as a WWII Air Force bombardier. He went in thinking it was a "good war", but in the end...:
HOWARD ZINN: Well, we thought bombing missions were over. The war was about to come to an end. This was in April of 1945, and remember the war ended in early May 1945. This was a few weeks before the war was going to be over, and everybody knew it was going to be over, and our armies were past France into Germany, but there was a little pocket of German soldiers hanging around this little town of Royan on the Atlantic coast of France, and the Air Force decided to bomb them. Twelve hundred heavy bombers, and I was in one of them, flew over this little town of Royan and dropped napalm-first use of napalm in the European theater.
And we don't know how many people were killed or how many people were terribly burned as a result of what we did. But I did it like most soldiers do, unthinkingly, mechanically, thinking we're on the right side, they're on the wrong side, and therefore we can do whatever we want, and it's OK. And only afterward, only really after the war when I was reading about Hiroshima from John Hersey and reading the stories of the survivors of Hiroshima and what they went through, only then did I begin to think about the human effects of bombing. Only then did I begin to think about what it meant to human beings on the ground when bombs were dropped on them, because as a bombardier, I was flying at 30,000 feet, six miles high, couldn't hear screams, couldn't see blood. And this is modern warfare.
In modern warfare, soldiers fire, they drop bombs, and they have no notion, really, of what is happening to the human beings that they're firing on. Everything is done at a distance. This enables terrible atrocities to take place. And I think, reflecting back on that bombing raid and thinking of that in Hiroshima and all the other raids on civilian cities and the killing of huge numbers of civilians in German and Japanese cities, the killing of 100,000 people in Tokyo in one night of fire-bombing, all of that made me realize war, even so-called good wars against fascism like World War II, wars don't solve any fundamental problems, and they always poison everybody on both sides. They poison the minds and souls of everybody on both sides. We're seeing that now in Iraq, where the minds of our soldiers are being poisoned by being an occupying army in a land where they are not wanted. And the results are terrible.
AMY GOODMAN: Alice, Howard Zinn was thrown out of Spelman College-right?-as a professor, for insubordination, although recently they gave him an honorary degree, and he addressed the graduating class. Why was he thrown out?
ALICE WALKER: Well, he was thrown out because he loved us, and he showed that love by just being with us. He loved his students. He didn't see why we should be second-class citizens. He didn't see why we shouldn't be able to eat where we wanted to and sleep where we wanted to and be with the people we wanted to be with. And so, he was with us. He didn't stay back, you know, in his tower there at the school. And so, he was a subversive in that situation.
And, of course, the administration could expel the students for activism. And I left Spelman because I sort of lost my scholarship, but I had stayed. That was one of the ways they controlled us. And they tried to control him, but of course you couldn't control Howie. And so, they even waited until he had left for the summer vacation to fire him, to fire him. They didn't fire him face to face. But, yeah, he was, you know, a radical and a subversive on the campus, as far as they were concerned. And our freedom was just not that important to the administration. What they needed was for us not to rock the boat.
Here's just a brief bit of Noam Chomsky had to say:
There had been some studies, you know, of the sort of actions from below, but he raised it to an entirely new plane. In fact, the phrase of his that always rings in my mind is his reverence for and his detailed study of what he called "the countless small actions of unknown people" that lead to those great moments that enter the historical record, a record that you simply can't begin to understand unless you look at those countless small actions.
And he not only wrote about them eloquently, but he participated in them. And he inspired others to participate in them. And the antiwar movement was one case, civil rights movement before it, Central American wars in the 1980s. In fact, just about any-you know, office worker strikes-just about anything you can-any significant action for peace and justice, Howard was there. People saw him as a leader, but he was really a participant. His remarkable character made him a leader, even if he was just sitting on the-you know, waiting for the police to pull people away like everyone else.
And Anthony Arnove, co-author of Voices of a People's History of the United States with Zinn:
Well, you know, Howard never rested. He had such an energy. And over the last few years, he continued to write, continued to speak, and he brought to life this history that he spoke about in that segment that you just aired. He wanted to bring a new generation of people into contact with the voices of dissent, the voices of protest, that they don't get in their school textbooks, that we don't get in our establishment media, and to remind them of the power of their own voice, remind them of the power of dissent, the power of protest. And he wanted to leave a legacy of crystallizing those voices, synthesizing those voices.
And he actively worked to bring together this remarkable documentary, The People Speak, which he narrated. He worked so tirelessly to bring that about. And, you know, I just felt so privileged to have had the opportunity to work with him at all, let alone on this project, and to see that realized.
But, you know, Alice Walker talked about his humor, his sense of joy in life, and that was infectious. He really conveyed to everyone he came into contact with that there was no more meaningful action than to be involved in struggle, no more fulfilling or important way of living one's life than in struggle fighting for justice. And so many people, myself included, but, you know, millions of people around the world, countless number of people, they changed their lives by encountering Howard Zinn-Howard changed their lives-reading A People's History of the United States, hearing one of his lectures, meeting him, hearing him on the radio, reading an article he wrote. He really inspired people to create the kinds of movements that brought about whatever rights, whatever freedoms, whatever liberties we have in this country. And that really is the legacy that it's incumbent upon all of us to extend and keep alive and keep vibrant.
And finally, Naomi Klein:
AMY GOODMAN: Anthony, I wanted to bring Naomi Klein back into this discussion. I think it's very touching we're here at Sundance, where you were with Howard Zinn last year, as he premiered People Speak. But last night, after Howard died, we saw the New York Times put up the AP, the Associated Press, obit. The Times has something like 1,200 obits already prepared for people. They didn't have one prepared for Howard Zinn. And this Associated Press obit very quickly went to a quote of Arthur Schlesinger, the historian, who once said, "I know"-he's talking about Howard Zinn-"I know he regards me as a dangerous reactionary. And I don't take him very seriously. He's a polemicist, not a historian." Naomi Klein, your response?
NAOMI KLEIN: I don't think that would have bothered Howard Zinn at all. He never was surprised when power protected itself. And he really was a people's historian, so he didn't look to the elites for validation.
I'm just so happy that Anthony and the incredible team from People Speak gave Howard this incredible gift at the end of his life. I was at Lincoln Center at the premiere of People Speak and was there when just the mention of Howard's name led thousands of people to leap to their feet and give him the standing ovation that he deserved. So I don't think he needed the New York Times. I don't think he needed the official historians. He was everybody's favorite teacher, the teacher that changed your life, but he was that for millions and millions of people. And so, you know, that's what happened. We just lost our favorite teacher.
But the thing about Howard is that the history that he taught was not just about losing the official illusions about nationalism, about the heroic figures. It was about telling people to believe in themselves and their power to change the world. So, like any wonderful teacher, he left all of these lessons behind. And I think we should all just resolve to be a little bit more like Howard today.
What the NYT doesn't understand--what NPR doesn't understand (as Oaktown Girl noted in Quick Hits), what none of the other offical sources understand is that their sniping at Howard is the highest praise they can give him. He left a mark so deep that they just can't help themselves. They have to lash out at him. Because he made a difference that they could not erase or undo. And I think we should all just resolve to be a little bit more like Howard every day. Because in being little more like him, a true radical, we are being a little more like our truest, most radical selves, grappling with the root of all things.
So here's my question: What did Howard Zinn mean to you? And what would it mean to you to be a little bit more like him every day.
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