36: Tim Johnson, Debbie Stabenow sign on to public option via reconciliation

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Feb 22, 2010 at 18:25


Update: On MSNBC, Adam Green announces that Debbie Stabenow has signed on, too.  Post reflected to update.

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According to whipcongress.com, South Dakota Senator Tim Johnson and Michigan Senator Debbie Stabenow have signed onto the Bennet letter calling for a public health insurance option to be passed via reconciliation.

This makes 36 public supporters for passing health reform via reconciliation, and 24 in favor of passing a public option through that process.  Here is the current whip chart in detail:

#1: Use reconciliation to pass health reform?
Yes: 36
Maybe: 4
No: 1
No comment: 18

#2: Pass a public option through reconciliation?
Yes: 24
Maybe: 8
No: 5
No comment: 22

Concerning the "maybes" on question #2, there are five Senators--Cardin (MD), Casey (PA), Klobuchar (MN) McCaskill (MO) and Reid (NV)--who have said they they support reconciliation, and support the public option, but just haven't confirmed that they support passing a public option through reconciliation.  Plus, there is also Tom Harkin, who has not gone on record, but who has been a very strong supporter of the public option.  Also, anonymous sources closer to matter indicate Harkin supports passing a public option through reconciliation.

The true "maybes" for the second question are Maria Cantwwll and Herb Kohl, whose statements on the matter show real signs of being undecided.

This is a long-winded way of saying that there are probably 30 Senators in support of passing a public option through reconciliation, 2 truly undecideds, 5 opposed, and 23 who have yet to comment.

Slowly but surely, progress is being made.

Chris Bowers :: 36: Tim Johnson, Debbie Stabenow sign on to public option via reconciliation

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so now it's a "majority of the majority" (0.00 / 0)
Republicans have better phrases than we do.



New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.


well, almost (0.00 / 0)
Added the non-explicit supporters twice.

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

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Heh. (0.00 / 0)
I misread that as "non-expletive."

Health insurance is not health care.
If you don't fight, you can't win.
Never give up. Never Surrender.
Watch out for flying kabuki.


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lol (0.00 / 0)
I wish I were that witty.

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

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Where is Jello Jay? (0.00 / 0)
I see our former public option leader has yet to offer a position on the Bennet letter. Strong and resolute as usual...

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans

Tim Johnson before Mark Udall (0.00 / 0)
Udall's picture is in the dictionary next to the phrase "weenie".

John McCain won't insure children

Will be interesting to see... (0.00 / 0)
If Reid actually does put it up for a vote if Democrats, needing only 50 this time, will actually vote for what they purportedly wanted earlier.  

Rockerfeller's opposed to using reconciliation to pass the PO? (0.00 / 0)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

This surprises me but maybe it shouldn't.  


question (0.00 / 0)
anyone knows how's the 'employer mandate' in obama's proposal?

closer to the house version or the senate rider thing?


answer (0.00 / 0)
Employer Mandate

WH: No mandate, free rider provision. Large employers (50+ workers) have to pay a fee if employees receive subsidies. Improves transition to free-rider policy by subtracting first 30 workers. (A firm with 51 workers that does not offer coverage will pay an amount equal to 51 minus 30, or 21 times the applicable per employee payment amount.)

House: Employer mandate. The House bill requires a payroll tax for employers that do not offer health insurance that meets minimum standards.

Senate: No mandate, free rider provision. Large employers have to pay a fee if taxpayers are supporting the health insurance for their workers.

comparison of the 3 plans:

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress....


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getting to 50 (or 60?) (0.00 / 0)
if Reid's plan is to let someone propose the public option as an amendment, that amendment can be filibustered, yes? so without 60 votes it will fail?

if a public option can be voted on under Majority Rules, we still need 50+Biden. i did a comparison of the old Windy scoreboard from November 2009 to what's up at the Whip Congress Now site. as far as i can tell, even if every supporter from November who is still in the Senate came out for the public option now, that's still only 49.

i think we're safe in writing off Lieberbutt and the Republicans. so at least one of these folks would have to sign on:

Max Baucus
Evan Bayh
Mark Begich
Tom Carper
Kent Conrad
Mary Landrieu
Blanche Lincoln
Ben Nelson
Mark Pryor

are any of them even possible supporters?

not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.


Baucus purportedly supported it earlier... (0.00 / 0)
Emphasis on the purportedly.

[ Parent ]
well, i missed Jello Jay anyway (4.00 / 2)
so now we're short two. (he was listed as a supporter in November.)

i'm so shocked to discover that Democrats were willing to "support" something when they thought they'd never have to actually vote for it...

not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.


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Silly suggestion? (0.00 / 0)
I have a silly suggestion, but perhaps not so silly after Monday's cloture vote on the jobs bill:

Is anyone going to call Scott Brown?  Sue Collins?  Olympia Snowe?


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