BREAKING: Pelosi Makes Strong Case For House Public Option Going Forward, "We Must Act"

by: AdamGreen

Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 17:35


Pelosi's final remarks at today's health care summit. (Suck it, Steny Hoyer.)

Mr. President, I harken back to that meeting a year ago. At that time, Senator Grassley questioned you about the public option.

And you said the public option is one way to keep the insurance companies honest and to increase competition. If you have a better way, put it on the table.

Well, I bring that up because we have come such a long way....As a representative of the House of Representatives, I want you to know that we were there that day in support of a public option which would save $120 billion, keep the insurance companies honest, and increase competition. [This describes the Medicare-rates version of the public option, not in the House bill. The current version saves $25 billion.]

We've come a long way to agreeing to a Republican idea, the exchanges...because the insurance companies opposed the public option. They couldn't take the competition.

We have in our bill [which includes a weaker public option], market-oriented, encouraging-to-the-private-sector initiatives. I think the insurance industry, left to it's own devices, has behaved shamefully. And we must act on behalf of the American people.

We have lived on their playing field all this time. It's time for the insurance companies to exist on the playing field of the American people.

This seems to me like an embrace of the House version of the public option going forward. What do you think?

UPDATE: Obama pretty much admits that he abandoned the public option not  because of a lack of votes, but because the White House couldn't stomach Republican "government takeover" talking points being used against them and they really really wanted Republican support. This is actually huge news:

"There were criticisms about the public option. That's when supposedly  there was going to be a government takeover of health care. And even  after the public option wasn't available, we still hear the same  rhetoric...We have the concept of an exchange, which previously has been  an idea that was embraced by Republicans before I embraced it. Now,  suddenly, it became less of a good idea."

UPDATE II: Statement by the Progressive Change Campaign  Committee,  Democracy for America, and Credo Action

"President Obama gave Republicans one final chance, and the verdict is in:  Bipartisanship is dead. It's clear that no Republicans will vote for health care reform. So Senate Democrats  should pass the highly popular public option  through reconciliation.  Starting tomorrow, we  will  ramp up our pressure on Senate Democrats to do the will of the people -- and do what's best for America's health care system -- by passing the public option into law." 

 

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I think so (4.00 / 6)
And I'll say I think Pelosi, in contrast to Obama, has done her best to push for a public option throughout the process.


New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

Pelosi was great and Obam 'sounded' great, however... (4.00 / 1)
The Republicans repetitive warnings of what will happen if reconciliation is used probably sent our Senate Democrats quivering more than ever.  They can still ruin everything.

The very fact that we've only got 23 signers for our petition speaks volumes to how weak and crippled they were pre-summit and may be why Obama is said to have a wimpier plan B in the works.

Nationalism is not the same thing as terrorism, and an adversary is not the same thing as an enemy.


Closing remarks didn't sound very plan Bish... (0.00 / 0)
Basically said that he'll consider their proposals, and that Rs could join them, but if not, then Dems would do it alone.

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If you are still trying to read tea leaves this far into the process (4.00 / 1)
there is little chance, but I hope you prove me wrong.

Great work, Adam! (4.00 / 2)
We're not giving up on the PO.

Back in 2008... (4.00 / 8)

 ...my extreme-right parents' biggest concern about Obama was that he was "naive".

 After seeing that quote from Obama, I have no choice but to conclude that my parents were correct. Except I'd go much, much further than "naive". "Batshit clueless" is a good starting point.

 And cowering in a corner and giving up your central policy plank because you're afraid of Republican talking points? Words fail me.

 Negotiating with Republicans makes about as much sense as negotiating with terrorists. I know that. Every Democrat with a pulse knows that. Except the leadership.

 

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


if every democrat with a pulse knew that, the senate bill would have been closer to the house bill (0.00 / 0)


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We started out in 2009 and ended up in 1994 (0.00 / 0)
somehow.  I think Obama may actually be a time machine.

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The admission about why the WH abandoned the PO (4.00 / 4)
should be stunning, but sadly isn't. HOW MANY TIMES do we have to do this dance with Democrats? When will they understand that Republicans are going to attack them no matter what they do because Republicans are not concerned with policy but with ATTAINING and RETAINING power. It's why they despised Clinton so much, because he co-opted their "agenda," and they couldn't stand it.

So now we finally get an admission that they abandoned the public option because they were afraid of being called names and they couldn't scrape up the balls to engage the argument and expose Republican lies.

Back when Dean was running and people were listening closely to Lessig about the concept of framing, I admit I was feeling rather optimistic that a corner had finally been turned. But it seems we're right back to the same old Dem timidity and obliviousness all over again.


Well, this requires you to buy the admission rather than (4.00 / 3)
the more likely truth that Glenn Greenwald mentions.

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Not necessarily mutually exclusive... (4.00 / 3)
The admission could be why they don't fight for anything. Glenn Greenwald's "Villain rotation" could be the method by which they do it.

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Felt the same way during the campaign (0.00 / 0)
I would think, "Obama gets it." Even George Lakoff suggested that the campaign was using his work on framing as a guide.

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glad to see so many that (4.00 / 3)
have read Greenwald's "Villian Rotation" piece.

But I really like what Pelosi said. Maybe the house can and will do something against the White House and for the people, but I am so tired of having Lucy pull the football away, that I am not going to get too much of the hope and change thing feel good vibe happening...


I feel the same way. I am not putting my emotions into (4.00 / 1)
hoping that they will do the right thing.  

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"And so say we all." (4.00 / 1)
"Starting tomorrow, we  will  ramp up our pressure on Senate Democrats to do the will of the people -- and do what's best for America's health care system -- by passing the public option into law."

Thanks Gov. Dean

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


Poor, poor baby.... (0.00 / 0)
because the White House couldn't stomach Republican "government takeover" talking points being used against them
 Who cares how many people die or how much money it cost the broken middle class for expanded medicaid.  What matters most is that sweet cheeks is happy.  

Can Pelosi pass any bill? (0.00 / 0)
Stupak is saying he's got 15-20 to vote against Obamacare on account of its abortion language.

And Progs are still saying they'll vote against anything with the Stupak amendment - eg Schakowsky.

Both camps are bullshitting, of course, but votes from both camps are definitely liable to go astray.

The GOP want to kill the bill for partisan reasons, but they don't want to take the blame from the Interests (who like the subsidies and the other goodies in the Senate bill as long as they don't come with any Commie stuff like a PO); the GOP strategy is to have the bill killed in the House by Dem votes - they tell the Interests 'the bill was fine when it left the Senate', and it's not our fault it died.

Pelosi is whistling Dixie.


"Bipartisanship is dead" (4.00 / 1)
I'd like to think so, but its more likely undead.

I mean, it was always about building some kind of Frankenstein's moster anyway, stitched together pieces from every shade of conservative idea stretched over the skeleton of progressive reform, so undead is not that much of a stretch.

Its a zombie now.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


and it wants brains! (4.00 / 1)


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That's a keeper! (0.00 / 0)
some kind of Frankenstein's moster anyway, stitched together pieces from every shade of conservative idea stretched over the skeleton of progressive reform,

I only wish it weren't so damn true. The only change I would make is to add "vulture-plucked" in front of skeleton as a way of further highlighting the process itself.  


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BREAKING NEWS!!!!! (0.00 / 0)
Obama:"I am a coward."

Give me a break.


Bait and switch again. (0.00 / 0)
I just don't trust Pelosi or the democrats.  I think they are trying to get support from public option folks - enough to keep the bill moving and then at the last minute sell us out.  One minute they bring up reconciliation and then they take it away, then they bring up the public option and then they take it away.  Screw this nonsense.  I won't be fooled.

"Start Over" (4.00 / 2)
There's one GOP idea that might have some legs.

Of course, no "starting over" unless the Single Payer plans get put back on the table and scored by OMB.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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pelosi is the only Dem I somewhat trust (0.00 / 0)
I don't the rest of them either...

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among the ones in the leadership (0.00 / 0)


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