Bunning continues filibuster; Republican assistance growing (Updated)

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Mar 01, 2010 at 17:49


Jim Bunning is continuing to filibuster legislation that would extend unemployment and COBRA benefits for 1.2 million people.  The filibuster has now gone to 11:

Sen. Durbin asked for unanimous consent for the 11th time to extend unemployment benefits. #Bunning objected

Additionally, Senator Jon Kyl is now helping Bunning keep the filibuster going.  On Saturday, David Dayen reported that Senators Corker and Sessions were also assisting Bunning.

In addition to ending unemployment and COBRA benefits for 1.2 million Americans, this filibuster has also resulted in "a 21 percent fee reduction to doctors seeing Medicare patients starting today."

Politically speaking, Bunning is not going to be hurt by this, as he is leaving the Senate.  Further, Republicans, even the ones assisting Bunning, are not going to be hurt by this either, because no one friggin' understands Senate procedure.

Democrats are in charge, and so they are going to be hurt by this.  Let me pull out my flow chart again:


As this continues, worries about the appearance of hypocrisy or the need for a "deliberative" legislative body ring increasingly hollow.  A lot of people are getting really hurt by Senate procedure.

Update--more specifics on the damage being caused: The White House emails more specifics on the damage this filibuster is causing:

If Emergency Unemployment Compensation and full federal funding for the Extended Benefit program are not extended, 400,000 Americans will lose unemployment benefits during the first weeks in March. By May, nearly 3 million people could be left without these benefits.(...)

If the extension is not approved, an estimated 500,000 workers who lose their jobs will be ineligible for subsidies to cover the cost of health care over this month. Over the rest of 2010, an estimated 5 million workers will be ineligible for the Recovery Act COBRA subsidy that covers 65 percent of the cost of coverage. Without this assistance, many of these families will be forced to join the ranks of the uninsured.

Chris Bowers :: Bunning continues filibuster; Republican assistance growing (Updated)

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Opportunity knocks? (4.00 / 3)
Seriously... Republicans are causing very real, immediate damage.  Time for Democrats to execute the Nuclear Option to get this passed immediately, and then with that done they can go ahead and move on HCR and such.

How soon can we do it? (4.00 / 1)
Does it have to wait until the start of next session? The Democrats can prevent a lot of damage to their electoral prospects if they do it right away.

I find it utterly bizarre that the Senate chooses to subject themselves to these rules. I suspect that the rules are just CYA for an actual agenda of dis-empowering government and giving the country to trans-national corporations. There is no other explanation for wanting to lose. The Senate is basically "throwing the game" like the Black Sox.

ec=-8.50 soc=-8.41   (3,967 Watts)


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That's exactly what the rules are meant to do. (0.00 / 0)
This goes beyond having the minority party having say when it is this extreme.

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Democrats (4.00 / 1)
should be held responsible.  They haven't even made them hold a cloture vote.  They are acting completely spineless yet again.

They can't... (4.00 / 2)
Or rather, they have to wait 48 hours or something anyway... Check the comments on my quick hit for more info on it.

I believe, if they REALLY wanted to though, they could execute the Nuclear Option and eliminate the filibuster and disallow a single senator from being able to hold up legislation like this.  All it would take is 50 Senators plus VP Biden to do it (if I'm not mistaken).  Given that very real damage is being done by this obstruction, they should just go ahead and do it.  


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The least the Dems could do.. (0.00 / 0)
Is just fu**ing say something forcefully back..anything, as long as it's not more Democratic whining!

The whole country relies on someone standing up for them.  Unfortunately all we have apparently is Harry Reid - but all he's got is "I hope the Republicans will change their minds."

And they both leave the Senate again and go home to another nice dinner.

Nationalism is not the same thing as terrorism, and an adversary is not the same thing as an enemy.


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This may sound silly, but... (0.00 / 0)
Is there some way for Democrats to basically hold a "secret" legislative session in the middle of the night, say, tonight, and basically just get unanimous consent that way?  This is just absurd.

Where's Obama on this?  He should be all over this, criticizing the GOP at every turn for essentially destroying the recovery.


re: obama (4.00 / 1)
Where's Obama on this?

the president supports holding a vote if that's the decision of the democratic leadership. he will work with all members of congress to find a way forward.


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Obama should be holding a prime time (0.00 / 0)
press conference tonight to blast Bunning.

This is a gift that Dems are determined to decline.  


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wait a minute (before we start blaming the republicrats) (0.00 / 0)
is anything preventing reid from holding a cloture vote?

I hear in the news "this is a 1 man blockade"
ok, say they are 10 more republicrats behind him for a total of 11 no votes

did they change the rules and increased the cloture threshold from 60 to 90?


re: bunning (0.00 / 0)
Bunning whined that his obstructionism meant he had "missed the Kentucky-South Carolina game that started at 9, and it was the only redeeming chance we had to beat South Carolina this year."

that game was on thursday

Breaking his hold would require a cloture vote, which would mean two days to let the cloture vote "ripen" and then 30 hours of post-cloture debate. That means benefits will run out.

2 days to ripen:

thursday to friday is 1, friday to saturday is 2

30 hours debate:

saturday to sunday is 24, sunday night to go to 30 and vote on monday?

today is monday, no?


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Think you're a little too liberal in your definitions... (0.00 / 0)
First, it was Friday... Friday night, late even... (remember, Bunning was upset he had to stay late to miss some basketball game). So a call for cloture would not have happened until late Friday... not sure how the rules exactly work, but that would mean that late Sunday would be as early as "2 days"... The 2 days may not even count when the Senate is adjourned (so I'm not sure it'd even be Sunday), but assuming it was, then there'd be another 30 hours, bringing us to, at minimum, tomorrow early. I'm not sure if Reid could continue asking for unanimous consent after filing for cloture, so perhaps they thought they could get through it sooner by asking for unanimous consent again rather than filing for cloture.  

At this point, it may be too late anyway... It's unclear whether they could fix the damage that's already been done.


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re: cloture (0.00 / 0)
First, it was Friday... Friday night, late even... (remember, Bunning was upset he had to stay late to miss some basketball game).

the Kentucky-South Carolina game was on Thursday

http://www.ukathletics.com/spo...

the 2 days may not even count when the Senate is adjourned

who told the dems to adjourn?


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I see, you mean the session where bunning started objecting was thursday night (0.00 / 0)
wouldn't a cloture vote scheduled Thursday night, be held early monday?

anyway, reid shouldn't have allowed bunning to be able to run the clock out


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Merkley fighting back (0.00 / 0)
As of a few minutes ago, Sen Jeff Merkley
was heading to the floor to demand immediate action to pass an extension of unemployment insurance and COBRA benefits. Thanks Jeff

It's why you strike when you can (0.00 / 0)
On Friday night Bunning only has himself and Corker....keep them at it for the weekend and maybe they would have folded.

Democrats alswyas have this tendency to yield just before the finish line

"Incrementalism isn't a different path to the same place, it could be a different path to a different place"
Stoller


Just Curious.. (0.00 / 0)
Is there a limit to how much unemployment insurance the government should continue to underwrite? Is there a point at which the expense becomes simply too great and we as a fiscally responsible society must say that unemployment benefits simply cannot be sustained indefinitely? If not then what money tree do you propose Uncle Sam prune to afford this ever-growing new entitlement? And if so then what threshold would you (speaking as the hypothetical leader of the majority party in Washington) define as 'enough'?

I've got two questions for you (0.00 / 0)
Do you think we should just let the poor bastards starve?  If so, will you just come out and say it?

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Devil's advocate question here (0.00 / 0)
Why not just give on using Stimulus money for this funding and get this done?

Given a) Chris's flow chart above, which essentially makes the case that only results matter; b) That Stimulus money deferred into 2011 or later does nothing to help the critical economic (and political) conditions right now and; c) Unemployment spending has one of the highest economic multiplier effects of all government spending, shouldn't accelerating the Stimulus spending and delivering solutions now be good politics and policy?

Put a different way, assuming Chris's flowchart and that only delivered results matter, is the current dysfunction that is negatively accruing to the governing party (regardless of who's at fault) really worth insisting this funding be additional/outside the Stimulus funding? We're going through all of this to preserve $16 billion in future (2011-2012) Stimulus funding? Really?

Better still, why not take it out of Kentucky's Stimulus allocations and call it a deal?

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


Yeah, I agree (0.00 / 0)
If this thing was so urgent I don't see why that's not a viable solution.  The missing amount of stimulus money can be replaced.

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