Public option whip count reaches 36: Ron Wyden, Mark Udall, and Ted Kaufman

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 15:35


Update--Ted Kaufman makes 36: Ryan Grim:

Sen. Ted Kaufman will vote for a public insurance option as part of a health care reconciliation package, the Delaware Democrat told HuffPost Tuesday evening.

Whip count numbers now reflect this update.

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The public option whip count in the Senate continues to make progress.  Senator Ron Wyden says he would vote yes to pass a reconciliation bill with a public option:

Wyden, in a statement, said, "I've long believed we need a more competitive insurance market. If the House version of the public option came up for a vote in reconciliation I would vote yes."

Also, in Colorado, Senator Mark Udall says the same:

Senator Udall shares President Obama's over-arching priority of enacting meaningful and comprehensive health reform that will increase quality and access and put our system on a sustainable track by lowering costs for small businesses, taxpayers, and American families. As part of reform, he continues to feel that inclusion of a public option to go head-to-head with private insurers could play a significant role in bringing down costs and offering more affordable options to Coloradans. He thinks it's important that such a plan -- like the one approved in the House bill -- negotiate reimbursement rates while competing on a level playing field with the private sector, and if such a plan comes up for a vote under the reconciliation process, he would vote for it.

So, here are the new whip count numbers:

Question #1: Open to using reconciliation to finish health reform?
Yes: 44
Maybe: 6
Nope: 1
No comment: 8

Question #2: Include a public option in reconciliation bill?
Yes: 36
Maybe: 5
No: 6
No comment: 12

The only "no" on reconciliation is Blanche Lincoln.  As such, it is worth noting that her new primary opponent, Bill Halter, supports passing a public option through reconciliation:

Asked directly if he supported a public plan that would give folks access to Medicare or something like it, Halter answered: "Yes."

"If you give individuals the opportuinity to voluntarily buy into a system like Medicare, there is broad support for that," Halter said.

Asked directly whether he'd back a reconciliation vote on the public option - and the use of reconciliation in general to pass reform, which Lincoln has hedged on - Halter answered Yes on both counts.

"Reconciliation has been used multiple times not just on tax bills but on health bills," he said.

When the "yes" and "maybe" votes on reconciliation are combined, they total 49.  As such, if this pressure forced Blanche Lincoln to change her position on reconciliation, there would now be enough votes to pass a fix to the Senate health reform bill through the budget reconciliation process.

Chris Bowers :: Public option whip count reaches 36: Ron Wyden, Mark Udall, and Ted Kaufman

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Is there a hard deadline for responses? (0.00 / 0)
At a certain point, the "no comments" are just as politically telling as the "no's" so have you planned on "outing" the "no comments" in a few days or are you confident everyone is going to take a position on this in the next few days?

If nothing else comes out of these organizing efforts, we'd at least like to clarify who's who in the caucus so who know who to support and fight down the road.  


You could also take another view... (4.00 / 1)
... that these late-comers see the writing on the wall for the Public Option so they have relatively little to loose by supporting it now that they know it can't get a vote (Pelosi, Reid, Obama say "no").  I mean, really how could it take this long for Sens. Udall, Wyden, and Kaufman to decide about a public option?  Its not like they haven't been talking about health care for the past year or so.  If they liked it before (I know Udall did before Christmas) then why didn't they jump on the Bennet letter BEFORE the health care summit?  They needed an assurance that their stated support wouldn't mean they'd actually have to VOTE for it!  My guess is that if Health Care takes much longer, the whip count for a reconciliation Public Option will reach 45 or 48 and then it will sputter out because if it reached 50, then someone would have to actually DO SOMETHING!

It seems suspiciously similar to the EFCA that passed in 2007 only to get vetoed.  Then when it popped up AFTER Obama got elected, no one wanted to touch it.

Can we find just one or two Senators who will filibuster FOR a Public Option?  That's what would be needed now.


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silly me! (0.00 / 0)
The current math says that the whip count for a PO could only ever hypothetically reach 53 right now unless you changed some NO votes.  So that means we can only expect firm commitments from about 3-5 more Senators.  In other words if we ever make 41, it will be a big BIG surprise to me.

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re: vote (0.00 / 0)
these late-comers see the writing on the wall for the Public Option so they have relatively little to loose by supporting it now that they know it can't get a vote

if one of all these signers really supports the PO, he/she will offer an amendment during the reconciliation debate

if no such amendment is offered, then we know ho supportive he/she was


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Wow, Halter's directness is a refreshing contrast to Lincoln's constant hedging (0.00 / 0)


Lincoln (0.00 / 0)
How is it that Obama's and the establishment's support for Lincoln doesn't come with any price tag at all? One damn vote for one of the party's highest priorities wouldn't even be a steep price.

What a pathetic excuse for a political party. Losers.


The price tag is her continued lack of support for the Po (4.00 / 3)


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I think you are making the mistake of believing that (4.00 / 1)
The White House wants a public option.   The fix has been in for a year.  Right now Obama is doing what he always does.  Lying to his base.

Actually, he really isn't lying.   Just telling us what we want to hear.  He's really good at that!

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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I know they don't want the PO (0.00 / 0)
But they surely want SOME piece of dreck passed and Lincoln is getting in their way even on that. So I still don't get why they tolerate this and still support her. That just makes Obama look like an ineffectual buffoon.

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Not to the people that pick up the check. (0.00 / 0)
If he only serves one term, he gets to get rich that much quicker.  Obama has spent a lifetime attaining status.  Essentially, the U.S. is living a worst case scenario.  

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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Question- Can the leadership completely ignore all of this? (0.00 / 0)
I ask this because while this is great you also keep posting articles that indicate that the White House, Pelosi and other are trying to cut the public option out even as it garners critical mass. Same question as before, is there any effort to address this problem?

It seems like to me that there is disconnect (0.00 / 0)
but when i asked the question it ignored.  It is pretty simple: How do you pass a  provision that the White House and the Democratic leadership is fighting against without addressing the fact that they are fighting against it.  

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You can't (0.00 / 0)
Further more, I don't think they care if you address the question, or for that matter if everyone asks that question.  Obama has made his deals and he's going to stick to them.  There will be no public option until at least 2013.  

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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