Massa goes to 11

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Mar 08, 2010 at 13:04


Eric Massa has always never been one to shy away from tough language, which is one of the reasons he was able to gather so many grassroots supporters during his campaigns for Congress.  As he prepares to leave Congress today admist sexual harassment charges, he is staying true to form and not going out quietly.

First, he is alleging a conspiracy by the Democratic leadership to force him out of office to pass the health reform bill:

"There's a reason that this has all happened, frankly one that I had not realized," Massa said on WKPQ radio on Sunday. "Mine is now the deciding vote on the health care bill, and this administration and this House leadership have said, quote unquote, they will stop at nothing to pass this health care bill. And now they've gotten rid of me and it'll pass."

Massa mentions Steny Hoyer:

"Steny Hoyer has never said a single word to me at all, never, not once," Massa said. "Never before in the history of the House of Representatives has a sitting leader of the Democratic Party discussed allegations of House investigations publicly, before findings of fact. Ever."

Hoyer's office denies the charge.

Massa also mentions Rahm Emanuel:

When I voted against the cap and trade bill, the phone rang and it was the chief of staff to the president of the United States of America, Rahm Emanuel, and he started swearing at me in terms and words that I hadn't heard since that crossing the line ceremony on the USS New Jersey in 1983. And I gave it right back to him, in terms and words that I know are physically impossible. If Rahm Emanuel wants to come after me, maybe he ought to hold himself to the same standards I'm holding myself to and he should resign.

This certainly isn't the first time that freshman members of Congress have accused the White House of bringing heavy-handed pressure on Progressives to fall in line.  Other reports have come from Lynn Woolsey, and there is talk that one of the primary challengers Donna Edwards faces is being supported by Emanuel behind the scenes.

Then again, Massa seems to be making these allegations to save his seat:

Responding to a caller to his weekly radio show on WKPQ Power 105 FM, a recording of which was made available via the Web site of local station 13 WHAM-TV, Massa said: "I'm not going to be a Congressman as of 5 o'clock [Monday] afternoon. The only way to stop that is for me to rescind my resignation. That's the only way to stop it. And the only way that's going to happen is if this becomes a national story."

He isn't exactly taking a progressive position against the health reform bill, either, echoing Republicans about using reconciliation:

By the end of the show, Massa is saying that passing Health Care Reform via reconciliation will tear the country apart and that the only way to stop it from passing is to get his story (presumably the alleged plan to force him out of Congress) on to Fox News to let the public know what the Democrats will do to get the bill passed.

Massa also opened up about the sexual harassment complaint that led to his resignation :

"A staff member made an intonation that maybe I should be chasing after the bridesmaid," Massa said. He responded by saying, "Well, what I really ought to be doing is frakking you." He said the complaint came not from that staffer, but from another at the table.

Wow--Massa watches Battlestar Galactica.  Massa apparently also had another unfortunate incident like this about twenty years ago.

As someone who actively supported Massa's campaigns in 2006 and 2008 through both significant fundraising and search engine optimization efforts, the whole situation just seems like a huge frakking mess that I don't want to touch.  There is a whole lot of he said / she said going on here.  My usual inclination is to believe charges of sexual harassment and strenuous top-down pressure on Progs to fall in line.  However, Massa also has appeared to play both sides of the fence during his time in Congress, telling Progs he opposes Democratic bills for left-wing reasons while echoing a lot of right-wing talking points at the same time.  His opposition to the housing bill was a pretty good example of this.

I had a lot of hope for Massa, and I am sad he is leaving Congress.  That it turned into something this messy is particularly saddening.

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Yes, especially since it uncovers how DC works (4.00 / 1)
That's unfortunate.  

There are sexual harrassment charges involved (0.00 / 0)
But this is, as you imply, the first time I had ever realized Democratic leaders are willing to play hardball tactics against progressive members of their caucus.

I had no idea.


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After what they said about Dr. Dean? (4.00 / 2)
Chris, you are a good guy, but you seem to be unable to realize this White House is not on the side of the working people and progressives.  Sometime, do a piece in which you line up the similarities of "actions" and differences of actions between the Bush 43 WH and the Obama WH.  Most of the difference is in the talk, not the walk.

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Did you even read the frakking post? (4.00 / 2)
I cited several examples of hard White house pressure against progs, and I said I believed those charges more often than not.

Christ. This oppositional commenting for the sake of it is irritating as shit. If you are going to try and read my mind at least read my words and respond tho those.


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Your words, my emphasis (0.00 / 0)
But this is, as you imply, the first time I had ever realized Democratic leaders are willing to play hardball tactics against progressive members of their caucus.

I had no idea.

I really don't know or care what's in your mind.  But your words continually return to the theme that these people in the White House are really on our side, if we just pressure them enough, work hard enough, pray enough, or something.  No frakking way!

Don't freak out because you're criticized.  You're one of the good guys.  But maybe too nice.  Think about what I suggested you do in the previous comment.  If not for us, just do it for yourself.  You and I are on the same side.  PS, we need you or Paul to discuss Chris Hedges column in Truth Digg.  

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Seriously (4.00 / 2)
Learn to detect sarcasm.

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How is massa "progressive"? (0.00 / 0)
IIRC, his comments about the cap-and-trade bill were from the conservative side of the aisle.  He certainly tried to play it both ways on his vote, claiming to us that it wasn't "progressive" enough, while echoing right wing talking points at home.

The man is no saint, just a crafty politician, and I wouldn't trust anything coming out of his mouth.  Look at how he's managed to shift the blame of his ethical lapses from himself to leadership.  That's good stuff.  Don't fall for it.

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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Now that's a surprise given your stance of the health care bill and the WH. (0.00 / 0)


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How so? (4.00 / 1)
I realize that a third of our caucus are no better than republicans, so I'm pleased that we've managed to get this far to improve access to health care.  Would I have preferred single payer?  Hell yes!  But, there's a reason why no reform of any kind has passed in the last 100 years.

But, I really chafe when people start defending Massa. Massa is no progressive hero.  He never has been. When he voted against health care, he talked out of both sides of his mouth to get money from us, but still get votes from home.  At home, he was running all the right wing talking points, and online he was playing Dennis Kucinich.   So, I would advise against making him into a martyr.  He isn't one.  right now, he's waging a very successful distraction campaign to get the heat off of him and it's working.

As for Rahm, I'd love to believe this story... it would mean that our chief of staff is actually pummeling people to get the votes for the president's legislation.  Unfortunately, considering the results, I have about as much faith in this story as I do with our Democratic leadership as a whole (save Pelosi).  If it were true, Democrats would have had a lot more to hang our hats on by now.

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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I could careless about Massa (0.00 / 0)
Or any other personality.

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If Massa is willing to call out the White House on how they only use hardball on liberals/progressives (0.00 / 0)
he can still be useful to us.

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People counted Massa as progressive (4.00 / 2)
Because he joined the Congressional Progressive Caucus, a group which seems to have no standards.

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Why won't progressive leaders (4.00 / 3)
Use hardball tactics against other Democrats?

I suppose the answer is that, while we have progressive Congressmen, we don't have any actual progressive leadership.

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I agree with that. (4.00 / 1)
They keep acting like they are the White House, for example, are on the same side. If there were something called progressive leadership they would be flushing this out into the public debate. In fact, such a strategy would probably help the progressives going into the fall since it would give them room to run against any policies that the base dislike. As it is, does anyone think progressives are now tied to policy making in DC- even the announcement today that the Senate is trying to destroy bank reform?

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re: progressive leadership (4.00 / 1)
I suppose the answer is that, while we have progressive Congressmen, we don't have any actual progressive leadership.

woolsey is a FAIL

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the few times I saw her on TV she was a FAIL there too


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The comment is about the value of having someone speak the truth (4.00 / 1)
about the White House. That it is unfortunate to lose such a voice because there are so few people wanting to call the White House out in Congress. I can think of may be Rep. Conyers calling the WH out and a few others, but not many. The more that there are people calling them out, the better.

It has nothing to do with you.

One of the reasons why I advocate an up or down vote on the public option (whether it passes or not) is to flush out the administration into the open about what they stand for rather than the president hiding behind pretty speeches and branding through events like the GOP circus event he held recently.  


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Seriously? .... (0.00 / 0)
But this is, as you imply, the first time I had ever realized Democratic leaders are willing to play hardball tactics against progressive members of their caucus.

Why is this the first time?


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Did you miss perhaps the sarcasm flag? (4.00 / 1)


sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

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Funny... (4.00 / 1)
We all pine about how we wish that Obama was more like LBJ... Here is some evidence that the WH is utilizing the LBJ "treatment" and now we are upset?

Didn't we want more pressure on congress folk who voted against democratic bills?

 

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


[ Parent ]
Funny... (0.00 / 0)
We all pine about how we wish that Obama was more like LBJ... Here is some evidence that the WH is utilizing the LBJ "treatment" and now we are upset?

Didn't we want more pressure on congress folk who voted against democratic bills?

 

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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What's funny is how you pretend not to understand the greater context (4.00 / 3)
They would stop at nothing to pass their bill. Not stop at nothing to pass a progressive bill.  

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What's funny (4.00 / 3)
Is LBJ used it to promote the agenda of the progressives and working people and civil rights.  This White House uses the power to help the banks and insurance companies.  

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"Funny" is not the word I'd use to describe it (0.00 / 0)


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But only a fool would be surprised to hear that the White House was doing this (4.00 / 1)
It's just kind of sad that they only view Democrats that vote against the bill as their "enemies."

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RollCall is reporting that he will still resign today... (4.00 / 1)
Good riddance... Did anyone know how much of a nut he was when they supported him?  Are we going to be hearing about black helicopters soon in his new conspiracy world?  

Does he really believe that congressional leaders were ready and willing to throw away his seat permanently over one vote on healthcare?  Please!  He's the one who chose to retire early on in this controversy.

I bet the allegations pending in the ethics inquiry aren't even about the incident he's talking about. It seems to be pretty clear that working for him meant working in a hostile working environment.

Ill give him credit for one thing, though.  He sure managed to change the subject and redirect the heat on him towards someone else!  Hes got chutspah, and that's a characteristic missing on our side of the aisle.  Too bad he decided to go right wing with it.

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


yes, push against the republicrat spin that Dems want to pass HCR via reconciliation (0.00 / 0)
He isn't exactly taking a progressive position against the health reform bill, either, echoing Republicans about using reconciliation:

By the end of the show, Massa is saying that passing Health Care Reform via reconciliation will tear the country apart and that the only way to stop it from passing is to get his story (presumably the alleged plan to force him out of Congress) on to Fox News to let the public know what the Democrats will do to get the bill passed.

yes, HCR passed with 60 votes in the Senate in December

reconciliation will do minor adjustments only: adjust the taxes needed, adjust the competition levels etc.


The editor is on line one.... (0.00 / 0)

... has always never been one ...

Bit jarring in the first sentence.

if Rahm or Obama strung him up on this (4.00 / 3)
it will be the first impressive thing they've done on the health care battle.

If they did because he was voting against both HCR and Climate (4.00 / 1)
Change it would be change I could believe in.....

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According to BooMan .. (0.00 / 0)
However, Massa also has appeared to play both sides of the fence during his time in Congress, telling Progs he opposes Democratic bills for left-wing reasons while echoing a lot of right-wing talking points at the same time.

He's trashed his own district .. as being full of right-wing freaks .. so who knows what he really feels


always was my opinion (0.00 / 0)
that he was trying to play both sides. kind of hard to do that on an issue with this much heat on it.

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What's murky here is that the staffer's original comment comes close to (0.00 / 0)
functioning as sexual harassment of any female staffers present. It certainly is an expression of male imprimatur, at any rate. It's probably not actually over any articulable line, but it's undoubtedly the kind of thing that diminishes women in a working environment.  

Massa is going to go on Glenn Beck's show tomorrow.. (4.00 / 1)
Please stop insinuating that this man has been in any way a progressive hero.  He's certainly running to the right as fast as he can.  Way to take responsibility, Eric!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


I think the past year has been a steep learning curve for Dems & progressives (4.00 / 2)
We are finding out that we have as many corporate whores as the GOP.

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The right pays ex-congressmen so much better. (4.00 / 1)


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What does going on Glenn Beck's show have to do with whether or not you're a progressive hero? (0.00 / 0)


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