Beck vs. Jesus & his churches (somebody's going to H-E-L-L !!!)

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sun Mar 14, 2010 at 08:30


Beck:

I beg you, look for the words 'social justice' or 'economic justice' on your church web site," Beck urged his audience. "If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words. Now, am I advising people to leave their church? Yes!"

Jesus [Matthew 25]:

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me....

We'll get to the rest of what Jesus has to say below, in the last section.  But first, a word from His churches....

Paul Rosenberg :: Beck vs. Jesus & his churches (somebody's going to H-E-L-L !!!)
The Anglicans:

Anti-Racism and Gender Equality

The election of the first black President of the United States was an historic event in our nation�s history, but this singular occasion, although a celebration of equality, does not eliminate racism. In a way, it exposed just how deeply the issue of race is still ingrained in the country and that racism still exists in our society. Because it has existed for centuries, many of us are unaware how the history of racism affects how we all think, live and behave even today. In order to become more aware of our actions�personally, interpersonally and institutionally�and move toward a church without racism that openly welcomes all races, The General Convention of the Episcopal Church named racism a sin and has mandated anti-racism training for all church leaders, both ordained and lay.

If your parish, diocese, seminary, commission, committee, agency or board is actively seeking to join the Gospel work of working against racism as well as other related oppressions, the Advocacy Center will work with you in achieving that goal. We�re offering to facilitate training events, train members of your group to become certified anti-racism trainers, and provide relevant and motivational materials and resources for conventions and other events. We also have an expansive list of recommended books, articles, videos and websites that can be used to learn more about how we can all join together to eliminate racism in our church and society.

The American Baptist Churches:

ABCUSA [American Baptist Churches, USA] Vision Statement

Through the cross of Christ we embrace the world as neighbor. Our vision for mission energizes a multitude of servant ministries of evangelism, discipleship, leadership, new church development, social justice, healing, peacemaking, economic development and education. Empowered by the Holy Spirit, we work together in mutual submission, humility, love, and giving that the gospel might be preached and lived in all the world.

The United Methodists:

The United Methodist Church has a long history of concern for social justice. Its members have often taken forthright positions on controversial issues involving Christian principles. Early Methodists expressed their opposition to the slave trade, to smuggling, and to the cruel treatment of prisoners.

A social creed was adopted by The Methodist Episcopal Church (North) in 1908. Within the next decade similar statements were adopted by The Methodist Episcopal Church, South, and by The Methodist Protestant Church. The Evangelical United Brethren Church adopted a statement of social principles in 1946 at the time of the uniting of the United Brethren and The Evangelical Church. In 1972, four years after the uniting in 1968 of The Methodist Church and The Evangelical United Brethren Church, the General Conference of The United Methodist Church adopted a new statement of Social Principles, which was revised in 1976 (and by each successive General Conference).

The Social Principles are a prayerful and thoughtful effort on the part of the General Conference to speak to the human issues in the contemporary world from a sound biblical and theological foundation as historically demonstrated in United Methodist traditions. They are a call to faithfulness and are intended to be instructive and persuasive in the best of the prophetic spirit; however, they are not church law.  The Social Principles are a call to all members of The United Methodist Church to a prayerful, studied dialogue of faith and practice. (See ¶ 509.)

The Catholics:

PART THREE
LIFE IN CHRIST

SECTION ONE
MAN'S VOCATION LIFE IN THE SPIRIT

CHAPTER TWO
THE HUMAN COMMUNION

ARTICLE 3
SOCIAL JUSTICE
1928
Society ensures social justice when it provides the conditions that allow associations or individuals to obtain what is their due, according to their nature and their vocation. Social justice is linked to the common good and the exercise of authority.
I. RESPECT FOR THE HUMAN PERSON
1929
Social justice can be obtained only in respecting the transcendent dignity of man. The person represents the ultimate end of society, which is ordered to him:

    What is at stake is the dignity of the human person, whose defense and promotion have been entrusted to us by the Creator, and to whom the men and women at every moment of history are strictly and responsibly in debt.35

1930 Respect for the human person entails respect for the rights that flow from his dignity as a creature. These rights are prior to society and must be recognized by it. They are the basis of the moral legitimacy of every authority: by flouting them, or refusing to recognize them in its positive legislation, a society undermines its own moral legitimacy.36 If it does not respect them, authority can rely only on force or violence to obtain obedience from its subjects. It is the Church's role to remind men of good will of these rights and to distinguish them from unwarranted or false claims.
1931 Respect for the human person proceeds by way of respect for the principle that "everyone should look upon his neighbor (without any exception) as 'another self,' above all bearing in mind his life and the means necessary for living it with dignity."37 No legislation could by itself do away with the fears, prejudices, and attitudes of pride and selfishness which obstruct the establishment of truly fraternal societies. Such behavior will cease only through the charity that finds in every man a "neighbor," a brother.
1932 The duty of making oneself a neighbor to others and actively serving them becomes even more urgent when it involves the disadvantaged, in whatever area this may be. "As you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me."38
1933 This same duty extends to those who think or act differently from us. The teaching of Christ goes so far as to require the forgiveness of offenses. He extends the commandment of love, which is that of the New Law, to all enemies.39 Liberation in the spirit of the Gospel is incompatible with hatred of one's enemy as a person, but not with hatred of the evil that he does as an enemy.
II. EQUALITY AND DIFFERENCES AMONG MEN
1934
Created in the image of the one God and equally endowed with rational souls, all men have the same nature and the same origin. Redeemed by the sacrifice of Christ, all are called to participate in the same divine beatitude: all therefore enjoy an equal dignity.
1935 The equality of men rests essentially on their dignity as persons and the rights that flow from it:
    Every form of social or cultural discrimination in fundamental personal rights on the grounds of sex, race, color, social conditions, language, or religion must be curbed and eradicated as incompatible with God's design.40

1936 On coming into the world, man is not equipped with everything he needs for developing his bodily and spiritual life. He needs others. Differences appear tied to age, physical abilities, intellectual or moral aptitudes, the benefits derived from social commerce, and the distribution of wealth.41 The "talents" are not distributed equally.42
1937 These differences belong to God's plan, who wills that each receive what he needs from others, and that those endowed with particular "talents" share the benefits with those who need them. These differences encourage and often oblige persons to practice generosity, kindness, and sharing of goods; they foster the mutual enrichment of cultures:
    I distribute the virtues quite diversely; I do not give all of them to each person, but some to one, some to others. . . . I shall give principally charity to one; justice to another; humility to this one, a living faith to that one. . . . And so I have given many gifts and graces, both spiritual and temporal, with such diversity that I have not given everything to one single person, so that you may be constrained to practice charity towards one another. . . . I have willed that one should need another and that all should be my ministers in distributing the graces and gifts they have received from me.43

1938 There exist also sinful inequalities that affect millions of men and women. These are in open contradiction of the Gospel:
    Their equal dignity as persons demands that we strive for fairer and more humane conditions. Excessive economic and social disparity between individuals and peoples of the one human race is a source of scandal and militates against social justice, equity, human dignity, as well as social and international peace.44

III. HUMAN SOLIDARITY
1939
The principle of solidarity, also articulated in terms of "friendship" or "social charity," is a direct demand of human and Christian brotherhood.45
    An error, "today abundantly widespread, is disregard for the law of human solidarity and charity, dictated and imposed both by our common origin and by the equality in rational nature of all men, whatever nation they belong to. This law is sealed by the sacrifice of redemption offered by Jesus Christ on the altar of the Cross to his heavenly Father, on behalf of sinful humanity."46

1940 Solidarity is manifested in the first place by the distribution of goods and remuneration for work. It also presupposes the effort for a more just social order where tensions are better able to be reduced and conflicts more readily settled by negotiation.
1941 Socio-economic problems can be resolved only with the help of all the forms of solidarity: solidarity of the poor among themselves, between rich and poor, of workers among themselves, between employers and employees in a business, solidarity among nations and peoples. International solidarity is a requirement of the moral order; world peace depends in part upon this.
1942 The virtue of solidarity goes beyond material goods. In spreading the spiritual goods of the faith, the Church has promoted, and often opened new paths for, the development of temporal goods as well. And so throughout the centuries has the Lord's saying been verified: "Seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things shall be yours as well":47
    For two thousand years this sentiment has lived and endured in the soul of the Church, impelling souls then and now to the heroic charity of monastic farmers, liberators of slaves, healers of the sick, and messengers of faith, civilization, and science to all generations and all peoples for the sake of creating the social conditions capable of offering to everyone possible a life worthy of man and of a Christian.48

IN BRIEF
1943
Society ensures social justice by providing the conditions that allow associations and individuals to obtain their due.
1944 Respect for the human person considers the other "another self." It presupposes respect for the fundamental rights that flow from the dignity intrinsic of the person.
1945 The equality of men concerns their dignity as persons and the rights that flow from it.
1946 The differences among persons belong to God's plan, who wills that we should need one another. These differences should encourage charity.
1947 The equal dignity of human persons requires the effort to reduce excessive social and economic inequalities. It gives urgency to the elimination of sinful inequalities.
1948 Solidarity is an eminently Christian virtue. It practices the sharing of spiritual goods even more than material ones.

Heck, even the Mormons:

The Book That Built a Better World
By Chris Conkling

....

Some skeptics see the Bible as the enemy of history and science without realizing that, in part, it made science and history possible. Surrounding Israel were religions of accommodation that merely sought to help people survive in, not change, their worlds. In contrast, "Judaism ... affirmed that [history] was a meaningful process leading to the gradual regeneration of humanity." 15 By introducing the concept of linear historical progress-the idea that because history is leading to a millennial state, our actions matter in helping create a better world-the Old Testament inspired great changes in human history. Whereas other religions of the period never "produced a major social revolution fired by a high concept of social justice, ... 'the prophets of Judah were a reforming political force which has never been surpassed.' " 16

And that's just the low-hanging fruit from the websites!


Now, remember at the beginning of this post, where I quoted from Matthew 25?  It went like this:

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Well, that's the part that was written for those who would listen.  Next came the part that was written for folks like Glenn Beck:

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Now, I can understand why Beck would want to stir himself up a religious war, since that's always worked out so well in the past just what the religious right has been doing for the last 100 years or more.  By why would he want to so clearly take the side of Satan?

Well, there truly are some things that passeth all understanding.

Thus endeth the lesson.


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Don't Forget The Sulfur! (4.00 / 2)
Sulfur, sugar, they even almost sound the same!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Could my sulfa allergy keep me out of hell? (4.00 / 1)


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Your Doctor Says Yes, But Satan Says No (4.00 / 3)
And since Satan runs your insurance company, I'm afraid you're going to Hell.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Hmm... brimstone with soup? (0.00 / 0)
Good thing it's lunch time here, because your title would have made me spit my coffee! (& my soup's not ready yet) Love that title. Makes me smile because I do know the New Testament.

If only there could be everlasting fire.


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Well, there's also the small matter that the term "social justice" itself (4.00 / 3)
was coined in the 1840's by the Jesuit Luigi Taparelli in reference to his understanding of the works of Thomas Aquinas. The term was then picked up and codified by successive popes and duly entered the Protestant lexicon in the 1900's. Given that he was raised Catholic, you might expect Beck to know this much.  

You Might Expect Beck To Know A Lot Of Things (4.00 / 2)
like the fact that he himself works in a part of the evil Rockefeller Center, corrupted as it is by all manner of visual voodoo.

You would be wrong.

So, so wrong.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Beck is amazingly non-self critical (4.00 / 2)
this is evident in almost everything he does, from A to OLIGACHY

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Don't You Mean "OILIGRAPHY"??? (0.00 / 0)
as in point-the-finger painting?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I was referencing this: (0.00 / 0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

I incorrectly remembered it, though.


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I Know What You Were Up To (4.00 / 1)
(I misremembered it too, myself.)

I was just riffing is all.  I thought "finger-pointing painting" was a pretty damn good turn of phrase to come up with just on the fly.

I might just re-use it as a diary title sometime.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Didn't he turn his back on Catholicism? (0.00 / 0)
He's now a Mormon, right? After years of debauchery?

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Yes, But (4.00 / 1)
The Mormons may not talk "social justice" in headline terms on their website, but it's still part of their package, as you can see from the essay I linked to, which actually makes a pretty big deal out the Bible's advancement of social justice.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I was going back up to read those excerpts (4.00 / 1)
and already read some of the Catholic ideas there. I must say that I love your essays!

The social conscience of the Congregationalist Church caused me to join one 20 years ago. But now lapsed from that. However, I do admire that compared to the mega church "God wants me to get rich" thinking!


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Every time I have tried to (4.00 / 6)
quote Matthew to persons I know, who call themselves "Christian" and who go on and on and scream, yell and curse those who dare think "taxes" should be used for the common good, for the poor,  in return I get a stare and silence.

I have even, in that silence while they seethe with resentment at me, things like "I believe Jesus was a socialist, that his entire mission was bathed in socialism and that it is why the Pharisees hated him...."   I learned those verses as a child in catholic school and early on the words impressed me, were seared into my young mind.  Those were the words that made  Jesus, a viable deity for a child like me, who sensed the world was not fair.  Jesus was trying to make things fair.

Anyway, then I get "No he wasn't."   And that's it.  No debate, no discussion, just them seething in anger, their looks insisting I have upset their mindset.

I was raised catholic.  And while I no longer practice any religion, I know that in the sixties (at least in my area), the catholic clergy were often in the forefront of social justice.  Priests and nuns often were in marches.......were organizing sit-ins and worked with students to promote anti poverty, anti racism, anti segregation; rights for workers.

Then somewhere around the 80s it all stopped.
Even if I wanted to, I do not believe I could ever return to THIS catholic church.  Or any organized religion where they do not heavily preach social justice.
Beck, Limbaugh and all their followers are truly the Pharisees of this time: greedy, haters of the poor and the disenfranchised.  Their god of money and power rules them and is a powerful deity...who apparently has already taken over TX, and a few other states and their leaders.


I Don't Think It All Stopped in the 80s (4.00 / 1)
but there was a significant rightwing pushback that began then, in the Catholic Church, just as everywhere else.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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You are probably right... (4.00 / 3)
but by then I had moved to CO (I grew up in Philly) and Dobson and friends dominated the religious front here.  While then I was still attempting to practice catholicism, it became very obvious the Catholic bishops here were competing with Dobson, the evangelicals for becoming the most biased, most exclusionary, most narrowed visioned groups....and it had only gotten worse in CO.

When I visit back east, while it is not nearly as conservative as it is here, it is certainly not the liberal  church I once attended.


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Liberation Theology (4.00 / 4)
The backlash and hard right turn of the Catholic hierarchy had roots in the concern of some church elites toward the liberal drift occasioned by Vatican II and even more the social critique of liberation theologians in Central and Latin America. A preferential option for the poor, as part of a broader critique of capitalism and the authoritarian church, and coupled with the base community organizing strategies of the region made priests espousing LT verboten.  I saw verboten because a major player in orchestrating the clampdown on such priests, including excommunication and coordination (read: green light to kill) with death squads was engineered by the then prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith , now pope Ratzinger, a German. A rejection of the anti-capitalist essence of LT and the struggle for social justice in the here and now rather than the afterlife were the driving forces behind the reaction. The priests I met dedicating their lives in struggle for the poor in Nicaragua and elsewhere in the 1980s are the most inspiring people I have ever met and, as a lifelong atheist, the only religious folks that have ever encountered who tempted me to become a believer.

Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts? Hot ashes for trees? Hot air for a cool breeze? And cold comfort for change?

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Precisely (4.00 / 2)
In fact, here in LA, even though Cardinal Mahoney was clearly recognized as a conservative appointment, the burgeoning Latino membership--including hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Central America--caused the LA Archdiocese to move significantly and prominently to the left on social justice issues since the mid-80s, strikingly at odds with the overall national trend.

Such was the bottom-up impact of liberation theology here in Southern California.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Same here. Don't practice (4.00 / 2)
religion, in my case raised in the "Friends" evangelical type church which we then called "fundamentalist." We learned as tots, "God is Love," with kindly pictures of Jesus around. Of course there were the brimstone sermons...ugh.

But the thing that gets me about Beck's urging people to leave the church for Social Justice is the whole conservative/evangelical GOP thing has been to preach that government should not try to do it, because, BECAUSE, people will take care of others' needs privately, through charity, through ngos, through CHURCHES.

Now Beck says even the churches should not help the needy, should not improve conditions, should ignore the poor.


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But Charity is not Justice (4.00 / 3)
"Pity would be no more, if we did not make somebody poor." --William Blake

Beck did not criticize the notion of charity, because charity does not usually threaten the status quo. The rich can appear generous while giving to the poor without fundamentally changing the system that allows one group to have more. If there were more equality, there would less need for charity. That is why the right prefers to keep taking care of the needy a voluntary and private affair. I suspect that by social and economic justice he had in mind a greater level of advocacy and political involvement.

I'm not saying you shouldn't donate money to good causes, by the way. When economic justice is lacking, that's often the best we can do.  

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada" --Sarah Palin


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Quite True (4.00 / 1)
Justice is far superior to charity, as you rightly point out.

But in reality, Beck's not just saying "no" to justice, though that's the term he uses.  Churches have always linked charity and justice together, so by attacking social justice he's attacking charity as well.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I think Jesus gave Beck a promo trailer in Mathew 24: also (4.00 / 4)
At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.


"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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"Will Work For Eternal Damnation" (4.00 / 3)
So Beck actually was "answering the call" after all...

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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