America's Moment of Truth: A call to save U.S. schools from a timetable for their demolition

by: jeffbinnc

Sun Mar 14, 2010 at 16:01


Diane Ravitch has seen the end of the U.S. system of public schools. And it's likely to happen in 2014.

In her new book The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education, Ravitch provides the narrative arc for how the demise of American public schools may come to pass at the hands of market-driven "reformers" who are using a nefarious scheme of testing and choice to take control of schools away from educators, parents, and the public.

The book sweeps across more than 50 years of American education, pivoting on key events that forever changed the landscape of our nation's schools: from 1950's-era segregation, through the 60's and 70s' years of experimentation and its backlash during the Reagan Presidency, through the promulgation of No Child Left Behind legislation, and up to the current education policies of the Obama administration. Ravitch, a historian by trade, describes a ruthless power grab, carried out ostensibly "for the children," that is bent on dismantling our national education system. The cast of characters is surprisingly small but immensely powerful, including a Nobel Prize economist, influential think tanks on the right and left, five U.S. Presidents (Democrat and Republican), deep-pocketed education philanthropists, and a raft of bullying and dictatorial mayors and school chiefs. The recurring theme throughout the story is that a "great hijacking" of American public education is putting education at risk to "the vagaries of the market and the good intentions of amateurs."

What's perhaps more startling than the message of the book is the nature of the messenger. Ravitch, a self-avowed "conservative," was an early and eager advocate for market-based, NCLB-implemented approaches to education reform. She was Assistant Secretary of Education and counselor to Education Secretary Lamar Alexander under President George H.W. Bush and appointed to the National Assessment Governing Board under President Clinton. She also co-founded an influential task force at the conservative Hoover Institution that advocated for "education reforms based on principles of standards, accountability, and choice." In her own words,

"I was attracted to the idea that the market would unleash innovation and bring greater efficiencies to education. I was certainly influenced by the conservative ideology of the other top-level officials in the Bush administration who were strong supporters of school choice and competition . . . .  Like these reformers, I wrote and spoke with conviction in the 1990s and early 2000s about what was needed to reform public education, and many of my ideas coincided with theirs."

But when Ravitch went beyond the rhetoric of reform and actually looked at the reality of what choice and competition were doing to public education, she experienced an "intellectual crisis." The ideas she had been promoting so passionately were not working, and in fact, were becoming powerful weapons of destruction.

In this two-part diary I argue that the moment of truth that Diane Ravitch describes is a clarion call for progressives to forcefully push back against the Obama administration's misguided education policies. In part one, I specify the talking points that Ravitch arms progressives with in the fight to reclaim public education. In part two, coming next Sunday, I put the book into the broader context of what's driving a "Washington consensus" on education that is being pushed by politicians and mainstream media.

jeffbinnc :: America's Moment of Truth: A call to save U.S. schools from a timetable for their demolition
Diane Ravitch's moment of truth occurred on November 30, 2006. She writes: (emphasis added)
"I went to a conference at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C. - a well-respected conservative think tank - to hear dozens or so scholars present their analyses of NCLB remedies. Organized by Frederick M. Hess and Chester E. Finn Jr., the conference examines whether the major remedies prescribed by NCLB - especially choice and after-school tutoring - were effective. Was the 'NCLB toolkit' working? Were the various sanctions prescribed by the law improving achievement? The various presentations that day demonstrated that state education departments were drowning in new bureaucratic requirements, procedures, and routines, and that none of the prescribed remedies was making a difference.
Choice was not working . . . . free after-school tutoring fared only a bit better . . . . As I listened to the day's discussion, it became clear to me that NCLB's remedies were not working."

The "most toxic flaw" of NCLB, Ravitch came to realize was the "legislative command that all students in every school must be proficient in reading and mathematics by 2014." She writes, (emphasis added)
"The goal set by Congress of 100 percent proficiency by 2014 is an aspiration; it is akin to a declaration of belief. Yes, we do believe that all children can learn and should learn. But as a goal, it is utterly out of reach. No one truly expects that all students will be proficient by the year 2014, although NCLB's most fervent supporters often claimed that it was feasible. Such a goal has never been reached by any state or nation. In their book about NCLB, [Chester] Finn and [Frederick] Hess acknowledge that no educator believes this goal is attainable; they write, 'Only politicians promise such things.' The law, they say, is comparable to Congress declaring that 'every last molecule of water or air pollution would vanish by 2014, or that all American cities would be crime-free by that date.' I would add that there is an important difference. If pollution does not utterly vanish, or if all cities are not crime-free, no public official will be punished. No state or municipal environmental; protection agencies will be shuttered, no police officers will be reprimanded or fired, no police department will be handed over to private managers. But if all students are not on track to be proficient by 2014, then schools will be closed, teachers will be fired, principals will lose their jobs, and some - perhaps many - public schools will be privatized.
But the most dangerous potential effect of the 2014 goal is that it is a timetable for the demolition of public education in the United States. The goal of 100 percent proficiency placed thousands of public schools at risk of being privatized, turned into charters, or closed. And indeed, scores of schools in New York City, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other districts were closed because they were unable to meet the unreasonable demands of NCLB. Superintendents in those districts boasted of how many schools they had closed, as if it were a badge of honor rather than an admission of defeat."

Convinced that the Obama administration is hurtling down the same destructive policy pathway of his predecessors, Ravitch is determined to stand astride the rails of the oncoming train and yell "Stop!" "In view of the money and power now arrayed on behalf of the ideas and programs I will criticize," she writes, " I hope it is not too late."

The books' message to progressives is that current education policies being advocated by political leaders on all sides are usurping democracy and endangering the future wellbeing of our country's children. Key points to take away from the text:

1. The politics of education has undergone a radical transformation that has been aided and abetted by mainstream media. By 2008, "slogans long advocated by policy wonks on the right had migrated to and been embraced by policy wonks on the left." Only advocates who herald market-driven competition, choice, and accountability are anointed as "reformers" by the media.

2. There is no managerial "silver bullet" that will cure the woes of all our dysfunctional schools. "When a school is successful," according to Ravitch, "it is hard to know which factor was most important or if it was a combination of factors . . . . Certainly schools can learn from one another, but school improvements - if they are real - occur incrementally, as a result of sustained effort over years."

3. Current policies being promoted by Arne Duncan have virtually no track record of producing success in public schools. "Neither Congress," Ravitch writes, "nor the U.S. Department of Education knows how to fix low-performing schools."

4. Relegating schools to "the forces of the marketplace" is a prescription for disaster. "Markets have winners and losers," Ravitch reminds us. It's fine for consumers to choose how they purchase goods and services based on a competitive market. But it's appalling to design a system to purposefully abandon some children to worse outcomes.

5. The argument for "school choice" is really an argument for elitism. "During the 1950s and 1960s," Ravitch informs us, "the term 'school choice' was stigmatized as a dodge invented to permit white students to escape to all-white public schools or to all-white segregation academies." It was a "conscious strategy to maintain state-sponsored segregation."

6. The true purpose of vouchers is to destroy public schools. Invented by Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman, vouchers are the chief mechanism in a "shock doctrine" approach to education reform. Plus, the track record for vouchers is not good. Research studies of the district that has had the most experience in using vouchers, Milwaukee, have found that there is no evidence that vouchers improve the academic experiences of students, even those who are the most needy.

7. Charter schools do not compete with mainstream public schools on a level playing field. Because attendance is determined by lottery, charter schools usually siphon off the more motivated students. They have higher attrition rates for teachers and students, with students who quit tending to be the lower performing students. And they are more apt to enforce discipline codes that would likely lead to court challenges if they were adopted by a regular public school. Yet even with these advantages, charter schools are not statistically more apt to produce higher achievement than ordinary public schools.

8. Albert Shanker, the former president of the American Federation of Teachers, is not the "father of the charter school movement" as many politicians and pundits maintain. His proposal for teacher-led autonomous schools within schools was never intended to lead to separate education enterprises run by outside corporations. And Shanker withdrew his endorsement of charter schools in 1993 and became a vociferous critic.

9. The current approach to evaluating schools by test scores is a mistake. Standardized tests are not precise enough, state legislators and school leaders will always figure out how to game the system, and scores are subject to measurement error, statistical error, random variation, and a host of environmental factors and student attributes.

10. "The most durable way to improve schools," Ravitch proposes, "is to improve curriculum and instruction and to improve the conditions in which teachers work and children learn."

Along with these essential lessons learned, Ravitch questions why is Obama, who was elected on a "promise of change," picking up the same banner of choice, competition, and markets" that had been the hallmark of the Bush administration? Without answering the question directly, Ravitch provides plenty of clues, which I'll explore in part two, next week.


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If Only (4.00 / 6)
Ravitch had noticed the impossible standards written into law a bit earlier than 2006.  Like... before they were written into law.

We need to have a sense of realism in education.  I was always a very quick learner.  But I always realized that some folks simply took a lot longer to learn things.  That didn't mean they were stupid.  Just because it took them longer didn't necessarily mean they didn't learn as well.  "Slow and steady" could even mean that some of them learned things better, more deeply and/or holistically.

OTOH, Ravitch is a grown woman, a trained historian, she really ought to have seen this coming.  If we're going to forgive her for being so slow, we should certainly adopt the same attitude to students vis-a-vis "grade-level" testing.

BTW, great job, Jeff.  Let's hope folks have lots of their own thoughts/experiences/perspectives to weigh in with as well.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


Thanks PauL (4.00 / 2)
I'm equally intrigued about the delayed conversion Ravitch experienced -- like what was she thinking all that time -- and plan to get into an exploration of that in part 2 of the diary. I'm becoming to think of it as almost a sign of hope, that maybe just maybe Obama can come around to the same sort of transformation.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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I sometimes find myself so (4.00 / 10)
frustrated with the way "public education" has been spun to be so negative, to blame the teachers (and then of course deny blaming the teachers).  
Our district, the one from which I retired after 30 years, was one of the first targets of the right.  WHY?  Because it is Colorado Springs, in the shadow of Dobson's Focus on the Family, with many people here already convinced public schools were evil bastions for liberal subversives.

They infiltrated our school board in the 90s, pouring huge amounts of money into the school board election, getting a lot of "anti public education" advocates on the board.  Like the Bush administration and other conservatives who go into elected office to destroy the concept of public anything, they were doing so here.  Surprisingly they had not done their research.  While this community is quite conservative, the teachers are not. In fact many of older teachers had been a part of the only successful teacher strike in the state.  Our success was not in monetary gains. In fact those of us who struck, lost two weeks worth of salary, never regained a penny.  Nor did we gain much on salary scale.  
However we did not strike for money.  We struck to preserve our master agreement and the right to binding arbitration.

Anyway, this group of evangelical right wingers were ready and willing to destroy the district.  Their first goal was to make our district the first entire privatized district in the country.   They had succeeded already in getting many charter schools in; in privatizing food services.
However, some of us, retired and active teachers worked together and pulled off a recall of two of the right wing members.  Soon after one of the two remaining quit.  

If there was a magic bullet to fix children who are not succeeding, believe me,  the first people to buy in would be good teachers.  But we know better.  The problem is this: in many if not most of the poor performing schools, there are problems which teachers cannot control.
***TRANSITION.....find a high performing elementary school and you will find most of the kids there have gone from k thru 5 there.   Most of the staff is constant. In a poor performing school, by fifth grade we had five out of thirty students had started in K.  Most had been there maybe two or three years.   As well, burn out for teachers was high.
 Can't solve the students constantly moving problem, but with teachers it is easy.  NOT MERIT PAY.  Commitment pay.  Research says that within poverty stricken neighborhoods, trust is a huge part of learning.  Kids and parents are more involved in education when they trust the staff...feel welcomed and comfortable.  Make it monetarily rewarding for good teachers to want to go and stay at those schools.  Make people want to compete to teach there.  Even the best teachers in the world get burned out when no matter what they do, how many hours they put in, how dedicated to their kids, how much they believe in what they are doing, if they are constantly told, "You fail, it's not good enough, and are threatened with closure" they will give up.
***Socioeconomics:  No matter how many times we were told "no excuses" we, good teachers, know.  When a child comes to school after the police had just taken their dad or mom to jail, learning does not happen.  If half your first grade admits to having one parent in jail, you have issues.  
If 98% of your kindergarten students who register do not know the letters of the alphabet, and they have have to compete with kindergarten students in schools where 98% of those who register not only know the alphabet, they can read some words, what do you thing happens?
When your constant goal is to do twice as much with half the help, take an educated guess to the outcome.
In education rich neighborhoods (ie, parents are educated and value education) the amount of volunteers for any and everything is huge enough to make a waiting list.  In poor schools, with the majority living with single parents, there are few, if any, volunteers.

Much of what I say is not rocket science. It's common sense.  State tests abound with proof.  Scores are by zip codes.  Without waiting teachers can tell you what schools will score high and which will not.  Even with tutoring and constant improvement, unless those other kids stop learning, the curve looks the same.

The charter schools manipulate things.  The ones in those poor socioeconomic areas that have to take the state tests either have shown little or no improvement from how the schools did before they were chartered.
The few showing improvement have cheated.  If they have kids with special needs, they take them until "count day".  Then they get the money for them, and a week or so later, inform parents they do not have a program (special ed) to meet their child's needs.

I am LIVID with the president's seeming agreement with Duncan and the charter solution, and the continuing of "blame the teacher."  
But judging from even the "progressive/liberal" blogs, the left seems as willing to blame the teachers as the right.
I call it the guilt factor.  Surely, they, the parents cannot be responsible for a lazy, and underperforming, an undisciplined child.   I have read more than a few, "my child is bored, therefore the teacher is bad..." posts.  

Anyway, I should stay away from these diaries. I just get upset all over again.  Teaching is an art, not a science. No two children, no two classes, not two families are the same.   Variables make it impossible to "fix" things.   Great teachers make it look easy but it is not.  
Great teachers are not necessarily the geniuses some think they should be.   A person can be a brilliant mathematician and a lousy teacher.  Guiding a child to love learning, to become a learner is a whole different thing than simply saying, "Here's the material..I teach, you learn."  

Anyway, thanks for the diary. I wish I could believe we could stop the train wreck of non teaching people telling us HOW it works.  But I can't.
   


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Thanks so much for this. (4.00 / 4)
Always good to get the view "from the trenches." Sounds like what happened in Colo. Springs is what is happening currently in Wake Co, NC where a new school board dominated by conservatives who were backed by a well-funded think tank. I agree with just about everything you said. So please don't "stay away." We need your voice.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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Please don't stay away from these diaries. (4.00 / 4)
Yours is exactly the kind of voice I want to hear more of.

Montani semper liberi

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Charters (4.00 / 4)
"7. Charter schools do not compete with mainstream public
schools on a level playing field. Because attendance is
determined by lottery, charter schools usually siphon off
the more motivated students. They have higher attrition
rates for teachers and students, with students who quit
tending to be the lower performing students. And they
are more apt to enforce discipline codes that would
likely lead to court challenges if they were adopted
by a regular public school. Yet even with these advantages,
charter schools are not statistically more apt to produce
higher achievement than ordinary public schools."

The big fear with charter schools was that they would
siphon off the top students. Instead it has been the
motivated parents of struggling students who are most
likely to sign up for charter school lotteries. After
all, if your kid is doing well in school, there is not
much motivation to go through the hassle of changing
schools, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

When comparing the kids who won the lottery and were
allowed to go to the charter school, with the kids
who entered the lottery but didn't win, there are
improvements in academic achievement after 1 to 2 years.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/pa...

http://jaypgreene.com/2008/11/...

http://www.nber.org/reporter/s...

http://www.oliverwillis.com/20...

Note, those with money have always had school choice:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

But academics aside, I do think that choice is important
to allow diversity in educational focus (like magnet schools).
For some parents, a school with a strong anti-bullying
program would be very important. For other an emphasis
on the arts, or science, or self-directed learning
would be the most important.

""Markets have winners and losers," Ravitch reminds us."

That is some businesses succeed, some go out of business,
but the customer is the beneficiary (as long as the market
is well regulated).

"But it's appalling to design a system to purposefully
abandon some children to worse outcomes."

That's kind of what we have now.


Thanks Katie (4.00 / 1)
Ravitch also does make the point that it is motivated parents who are more apt to self-select charters, which means that charters are more apt to get kids who are from households that are more supportive of academic achievement. So I may not have paraphrased her point quite accurately. And yes of course families of the well-to-do have always had and will continue to have choice. However how you define "choice" as parents having a choice within the framework of public schools is not how the term has come to be used by politicians. Instead, choice has come to mean that entities other than the local school administration -- such as paid contractors and management companies -- are allowed to get public funds to run schools that operate outside the purvey of local control. And yes, what we have increasingly is the random abandonment of kids to systemic neglect.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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PUBLIC SCHOOL School Choice (4.00 / 3)
has always been a liberal/progressive value/idea.

That's what school integration was all about, for crying out loud!

Magnet schools, even public charter schools can provide a diversity of options that can be adjusted over time so that there need be no losers as the price of giving the winners what they want and need.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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One of Ravitch's key points is that the BREADTH of a great education (4.00 / 5)
is not being offered to our kids.  They are learning test strategies, basic literacy, and basic numeracy.  This does not realize human potential, make good citizens, OR inspire kids to love learning.

To Diane Rehm she said the one universal mandate she'd most like to see is that every child in the U.S. have the opportunity to learn to play a musical instrument.  That's the right way of thinking.  By extension: And learn Latin.  etc.


Right-o (4.00 / 3)
She repeatedly calls for a "national curriculum" that goes beyond the narrow confines of NCLB's focus on math and reading only.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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I've never understood why we don't have a national curriculum (4.00 / 1)
with perhaps some allowances for local variations. I mean, how is 1 + 1 = 2 or the "Declaration of Independance was passed on 7/4/1776" different in Birmingham, AL from Bellingham, WA from Burlington, VT? It's not, and local ideological and political factors should not be allowed to influence what are substantively factual and logical truths or how they're taught. Tenthers, anti-Federalists and assorted other Articles of Confederation and Nullification nutjobs (which is precisely what they are) are welcome to disagree, but we live in a centrally-governed federal constitutional republic and matters as important as education absolutely must be set and regulated at the national level, not locally.

We simply don't have the time or room to keep fighting these idiotic ideological and policy wars. The Civil War is over. The Union won. We are a country, not a collection of loosely-organized states. If we want to catch up with the rest of the world, we simply must respect this and end all this localism nonsense.

And all these latter-day John C. Calhouns can just suck it.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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What I didn't mention. (4.00 / 1)
Ravitch also says that a national curriculum should be "voluntary." Under the Clinton Administration, she spear-headed the movement for this, beginning with national history standards. But the right wing, in particular Lynne Cheney, vilified the history standards as left wing political correctness in the media and the project was abandoned. So I think she makes "voluntary" the operative word because she anticipates all the people in Texas, for instance, who don't want their kids being taught about evolution or Thomas Jefferson. And she doesn't want to take their objections head on because of her innate conservatism.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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Volunteer is code for Nullification (4.00 / 1)
We fought and won these battles over a century ago, decisively. The federal government trumps states on such matters. Regressives can keep on fighting these battles in their minds and in the RW Noiseosphere, but back here in the real world 1 + 1 = 2, the earth is round, evolution is proven, and that's all there is to it.

Obviously, making this happen politically is a more difficult matter, but legally, it's settled, and we need to proceed from that, whatever these moronic Church Lady flat earthers say or want or try to do.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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I'm going to be writing about this very subject (0.00 / 0)
in part 2 of this diary series. Watch for it on Sunday at 4:00pm (EDT).

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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Not to add (4.00 / 1)
Civics.

I graduated high school in the early 90's--and while there social studies/history--there was no education pertaining to civics.  The best education were the things we engaged in outside the classroom, but they felt obligatory and boring.  Teachers, I feel did not want "rock the boat"--so I never felt it important to believe in civic duty or the democratic process.  Politics was a controversial word, for the most part.  And that said, I had teachers that were very educators and some were very active in politics--they were a little "eccentric" to normal folks, including the faculty.
Seton Hall University had much more passion for partying than activism--other college kids protesting or signing petitions were dorky.


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thanks for this post (0.00 / 0)
I first read about Ravitch and her transformation only a few days ago.  It's very much a positive sign - both about her and about possible shifts in politics.  On the other hand, it really tells you how bad things have gotten if a relatively honest person from 'the other side' are experiencing ideological crises because the results of what they advocated for have led to results that they can't stomach.  It's worse because the ideas that have become prevalent in the U.S. get exported elsewhere (I can speak for the UK, but I'm sure that they're used elsewhere as well).

what do you make of the Obama administration's recent proposals?  On first glance, it looked like a one-third measure that addresses a few of these things but not nearly the overall crisis in education (let alone the overall situation of market-based indoctrination that happens in the u.s.).  And as I've learned from other Obama administration proposals, what it looks like on first glance is probably better than what it is underneath.

but i'm not an expert on this stuff by any stretch, so I'm curious what others think.


Not sure what "one-third" measure you're reffering to. (4.00 / 3)
But there are a number of problems with the latest iteration from the Obama administration on education. Topping it off is the goal of getting all students "college or career ready" by the time they graduate. No one knows what that means.

A second problem with how Federal funds are being doled out is that more and more of them are being tied to competitive grants, which means that schools that have the bucks to hire the best grant writer are the ones who are more apt to get the funds. "Needs based" funds are basically being frozen.

And of course, the mandates to lift the caps on charter schools and implement some form of teacher merit pay are reprehensible elements that I've addressed in other diaries.

That's my short take on it for now. Thanks for asking.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...


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yes it was that latest iteration- thanks! (0.00 / 0)


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This says it all : (4.00 / 3)
http://www.blackagendareport.c...

WTF? Gingrich selling education reform ! What an insult to dedciated teachers & students ! Next, is Obama going to deploy Bush to sell world peace and civil liberties?

ANother "fun fact : Melissa Rosi in one of her books , think it is "what every American needs to know about who is running the world" quotes Bush's sister that they didn't have much books at home when growing up, and no encyclopedia types at all.


Wow (4.00 / 4)
Great link! Here's my favorite quote:
"Since the public debates on charter schools and privatizing education are ones that our elite cannot win, they have decreed there will be no debate."

"Send in the clowns," for real!

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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Yeah (4.00 / 2)
BAR doesn't mess around.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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CSN&Y still has it right (4.00 / 1)
Teach Your Children Well. Do that, and the rest takes care of itself. We're not talking rocket science here (except for truly gifted older kids who take AP physics, chemistry and math). The rest of the developed world doesn't seem to have a problem cranking out well-educated, intellectually confident and competent graduates well-positioned to function in the modern world, by focusing on time-tested fundamentals and actually having the chutzpah to except much from developing minds, push them to excel, and providing them with the resources to do so. Why can't we, instead of wasting time on creationism vs. evolution idiocy or self-esteem-building nonsense. If we treat children like the adults we hope that they someday become, then maybe they'll actually become that.

I don't understand this country's obsession with policy magic. There's no such thing. Stick to the basics. They work.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


If only.... (0.00 / 0)
I'm very sympathetic to your point of view, but I still ask myself if what you propose wasn't, in fact, exactly what we thought we were doing when the culture wars erupted anew. What we teach in science seems cut and dried, until we get to biology. Civics and history would seem to be non-controversial, but when you start to discuss things like the New Deal, Brown v. Board of Education, or the Trail of Tears, suddenly it isn't. And do we really even need to look into the can of worms that was called social studies in my day?

A national curriculum, even one which purports to be about basics, is going to have a hard row to hoe with the nation divided on so many matters of substance. The battles, from local school boards to state legislatures to the Congress are unfortunately not a cause of our problems in the schools, they are a reflection of our lack of national consensus generally, and the schools, like it or not, are the focal point of a struggle for the opinions of the next generation. I don't think that any of this will be resolved either quickly or simply, much as I wish it were otherwise.


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The facts in question are generally not in dispute (4.00 / 1)
We should teach those in a standardized manner nationally, and let localities have some room to debate the why's--but even then, only when it remains within the realm of provable or plausible reality. I.e. no Jesus, no intelligent creator, no crackpot pseudo-science, etc. And yes, many localities will object to even this much, but progress is always a battle between progressives and regressives, and often has to be imposed by the former on the latter. We are and will forever be fighting not only the Civil War, but the ratification process for the Constitution. There are still people who effectively don't accept the outcomes of either.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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The Civil War (4.00 / 2)
Really, I'm not kidding when I say I wish it were so. This, it seems to me, is the heart of the matter:

...but even then, only when it remains within the realm of provable or plausible reality. I.e. no Jesus, no intelligent creator, no crackpot pseudo-science, etc.

Who, presently, has the authority, or the power, to make this stick? We might be able to overcome the crackers and recidivists, if we had only them to fight, but they have powerful allies on the right, who are perfectly willing to rile them up -- and fund them -- so long as they manage to keep us at bay.

I'm not at all sure that the twisted geniuses who've taken custody of The Southern Strategy since 1964 realized then or now that it would metastasize into a new, and newly opaque civil war, and I'm not sure that it would have bothered them if they had. One thing I am sure of, though, is that the coherent national narrative which we were all taught when I was in school has now fractured into a thousand glittery bits. Worse still, hardly any of the political entrepreneurs working the conflicts scattered about as a result have much interest in anything but their own advantage.

It's a crisis, right enough, but to me, speaking of a national curriculum as a solution is -- in a very real sense -- putting the cart before the horse.


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Like I said to kovie upthread (4.00 / 1)
I'm going to address this very topic, among other things, next Sunday in part 2 of this diary series. Your exchange here just whets my appetite.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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H/T (4.00 / 1)
I admire the work you've done here, and look forward to more of it. After so much darkness, any light is welcome; one as bright and clear as yours is all the more so. If only there weren't so many feral eyes moving in the shadows beyond.

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The facts in question are generally not in dispute (0.00 / 0)
We should teach those in a standardized manner nationally, and let localities have some room to debate the why's--but even then, only when it remains within the realm of provable or plausible reality. I.e. no Jesus, no intelligent creator, no crackpot pseudo-science, etc. And yes, many localities will object to even this much, but progress is always a battle between progressives and regressives, and often has to be imposed by the former on the latter. We are and will forever be fighting not only the Civil War, but the ratification process for the Constitution. There are still people who effectively don't accept the outcomes of either.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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So I am listening to Al Sharpton (4.00 / 1)
talking about his trips with Arne Duncan and Newt to different schools.   Understand, I am not a Sharpton hater or lover (he often is seen as polarizing).   While I did not always agree with him I do believe his loud voice (the squeaky wheel so to speak) was often needed to wake people up.

Anyway, he made a good point.  He mentioned how when he went to a charter school in Philly, one which took a low scoring student population, to high performing, he was impressed.  What impressed him was this: parents were REQUIRED to participate, attend meeting, conferences.  It all sounds good.  PARENTAL involvement indeed is a key ingredient to student success.  WE, public school teachers, know that too.

But here is what Mr. Sharpton was neither asked nor answered.  What do you do if parents ignore the requirement, do not show up, do not do the things required?  In charter and private schools, the administration has the option to expel the student if parents fail to fulfill requirements.  
But in public school, guess what?  We don't get to do that. The most control we could exert was to file a restraining order against threatening parents who came to school cursing out staff, refusing to check in at the office, being inebriated.    In public school we do not get to expel students because parents fail their responsibility to their children.  

In the end, this is the one thing the public, the school administrators, this political administration refuses to acknowledge, or talk about.  In a rough school where difficult children take up much of the time of a staff, the parents of the students doing well, get frustrated. I understand that.  All teachers understand that.  So a "charter" or private school comes in (and sadly, often they are vultures seeking to make money, not to educate) and take the top children with all kinds of promises to the children.  Yes, they do get those kids away from the problems students.    But they are not necessarily getting the education promised.  

In the meantime, the public schools still have those angry, often neglected, abused children, there to learn.  Whereas before our top kids were the role models, the sparks, the ones who gave our worst kids a vision of what could be, now, the public school spirals lower and lower and lower becoming nothing more than a warehouse for often unwanted, unloved lost and angry children.  

People refuse to acknowledge this reality.  One reason good private or charter schools work is because the parents are involved. By virtue of the fact that their parents are willing and able to drive them wherever to attend school, to attend meetings required, to do what is asked less their child cannot attend, gives those students the educational advantage needed to succeed.

One thing we know....when parents value education their children do better.   If half the population of a school has parents that are in prison; or are being raised by people who dropped out, or blame the schools for their failure, there is a chance we will face an angry kid already negative about education.

Arne Duncan and the Obama administration are not connecting to reality.   Blaming "bad teachers" is silly.  There will always be some bad teachers.  I had a few in my years in school.  But I had a mother who, being deprived of an education, because she was pulled out of school to work in a textile mill (before child labor laws), was bound and determined to make sure my sister and I learned.  When we complained to her, the response was loving but stern and to the point: "I don't care if you like the teacher or not.  Learning is still your job."  And we survived a few incompetent teachers, flourished under some gifted teachers and did well with mostly regular, good, well meaning teachers.  We learned because our parents insisted that was our job, in spite of who taught us.  
As well, my parents valued education even though neither had gone beyond the 8th grade.  

In the end, we have to face the reality of society.  Parents who are not engaged and do not care about education still have children.  THOSE children will someday be the neighbors of or at least share citizenship with our high achieving kids.  If we do not care about the kids in public school x, if our answer is just "create a private/charter" school to educate the high achievers of caring parents, and leave the kids who do not have the parental love and caring in a setting where there is no education, then what? In the long run, we all will pay the price.


Paying the Price (4.00 / 1)
You bring up perhaps what's most disturbing about this "reform" idiocy and that is the enormous "opportunity costs" -- both in dollars and in lives -- of running down all these useless rabbit holes like testing and school closings. Just think how much better off children would be if that money were spent on universal Pre-K (so children were better prepared when they enter schools) and hiring a social worker and health worker at every school so teachers don't have to be the ones intervening when children are abused, neglected, or in poor health (which teachers have no time or training to do).  

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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It's sad isn't it.... (4.00 / 1)
when I hear lefties, er progressives, right along with the right wing, insisting that "throwing money at the problem is a waste, that smaller class sizes do not work" I shake my head in sorrow.

Seriously, no public schools have ever been able to decrease class size as much as the research says is needed (under 18 in K, 1, 2, 3) consistently.  Full time social workers are a luxury, as are full time nurses.  
Pre K classes, so necessary, are scattered here and there and again no consistency.

People, the public, think it's all so easy.  Teach them and they will learn.  Therefore if they fail, we failed to teach.
It is simply not that simple.  
There is no magical method, magical formula.  It's hard work.  And sometimes it is years and years before positive results are seen.

There was a book years ago, in the late sixties, put out by someone who saw this coming.  It was a precautionary tale:
The Geranium On The Windowsill Just Died But Teacher You Went Right On by Albert Cullum .   I read it as a young teacher.
It's sad but teachers have been forced to be that teacher....not allowing them to follow their instincts but rather doing what they are told to get the scores, to save the school and to hell with the kids.

Sad and frustrating...
Good thing I retired. Most likely I would have been fired because the whole NCLB was a joke and any decent teacher knew it. I was on my last year when it was fully put into practice.  I spoke loud and clear.....but I was easy to ignore because I was "old" and retiring.  

I was only 57 when retired, having taught 36 years....but I knew I could not tolerate the insanity that was happening.


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Yes it's sad. (0.00 / 0)
And why we need to keep speaking out.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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Another Factor (4.00 / 1)
Of course, as has been discussed here many times, if we can produce more jobs with higher wages, more equality at the workplace--parents would have more time to spend with their children's education.

I see this as a major problem for today's parents, especially single mothers. It's sad.


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Absolutely (4.00 / 1)
And why we need universal Pre-K. Obama actually ran on that. But has not even given a hint that he might try to deliver.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...

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You are repeating a myth (0.00 / 0)
Of course, some parents don't care.  But actually low-income and of-color parents care more on average about education than more privileged parents.  

There are lots of reasons why parents don't participate.  Very few of them have to do with "caring."  

This blaming of parents is a common and incredibly destructive pattern.  High percentages of teachers in low-income minority schools agree that it's parent's fault that their kids don't learn.  Not surprisingly, this belief is linked to not educating students whose parent's are seen as "bad" as well.  In other words, teachers who think a child's parents don't care, don't try with that student as hard.

Glad to hear your parents with only an 8th grade education  helped you(although that doesn't really give us much information).  But most working-class less educated parents run into a whole range of barriers and challenges when it comes to interacting with schools.

Let me cite only one fact:  many low-income parents fear that teachers may report them to social services and they may lose their kids, regardless of how caring or effective they are as parents.  That would tend to build distrust and distance, don't you think?

Now, yes, many of these parents are angry at schools, for very good reason.  

By the way, there is NO evidence that having a single parent vs. two parents has any independent impact on the flourishing of a child.

Some kids are abused by their parents.  More kids in low-income families are either abused (or found out).  But this is a small part of the problem.  

Fantasies about whole populations of parents who don't "care."  That IS a core problem for inner city schools.  And it's a problem among teachers.  And it is very difficult to solve.  And this post doesn't help things IMHO.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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By the way (0.00 / 0)
I'm sure no one is reading, but great post, Jeff.  I, as well, am not willing to give Ravitch a pass on her prior life as a committed conservative (after a life as a progressive).  
She should have known better.  To only realize it now is a judgment on her.  But at least she did realize it.  And her conservative life actually gives her some influence.  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)

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