Rahm wanted to strip down Senate bill, everyone else wanted a reconciliation fix

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Mar 17, 2010 at 14:35


Ben Smith thinks that the left falling into line is a vindication for Rahm Emanuel:

The base has fallen into line. And if Rahm was right all along that progressives, essentially, could be taken for granted, he's about to go from punching bag to hero in the eyes of many Democrats.

That statement is only supportable if you fail to remember what the actual health reform debate was like two months ago.  In the wake of the Massachusetts special election, Rahm Emanuel wanted to scrap even the Senate health reform bill and pass something smaller:

Emanuel, for his part, is now pushing for a stripped-down health care bill that could be passed within a few weeks and force Republicans, for a change, to take a few tough votes.

While Emanuel was arguing for less than the Senate bill, others were arguing that the Senate needed to pass a reconciliation fix to the Senate bill, making it stronger.  For example, here was SEIU's Andy Stern the day after the Massachusetts special election:

The House should pass the Senate's health insurance reform bill - with an agreement that it will be fixed, fixed right, and fixed right away through a parallel process. [. . . ] The House and Senate must move forward together. And, there is no reason they cannot move forward together to make those changes through any means possible -- whether through reconciliation or other pieces of moving legislation.

The last tow months clearly followed Andy Stern's recommendation, not Rahm Emanuel's.  Or really, everyone's advice except Rahm Emanuel's:

Senior Congressional aides said that lawmakers and the White House were increasingly focused on a plan by which the House would adopt the health care bill approved by the Senate on Dec. 24, with any changes made in a separate bill using the budget reconciliation maneuver.

Instead of scrapping the Senate health care bill and passing something stripped down, Congress is moving to pass the Senate health reform bill with improvements through the reconciliation process.  Which is what almost everyone except Rahm Emanuel wanted.

It beats me how someone can have the exact opposite of his recommended path forward come to pass, and still be vindicated.  Emanuel wanted to water down the Senate bill further, but instead it will be getting stronger through the reconciliation process as progressives were demanding.  Yeah, Emanuel really paved the way forward after the Massachusetts debacle.

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That poll that Smith uses as a peg (4.00 / 2)
finds that the improving support for health care "reform" comes entirely from liberals. Indies remains opposed in the same numbers, as do Repubs.

Which I guess is why Obama's overall ratings aren't improving. In fact, today's his worst day ever in Gallup, with his unfavorable (47) surpassing his favorable (46) for the first time.


Yeah, big hiccup.... (0.00 / 0)
probably a one day thing, or gallup would be rolling out the headline...

Not surprising... every time we get close to a vote on healthcare, the numbers all go down.  When we stop talking about healthcare, the numbers go back up.  Which is why we need to pass this thing and move on.

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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Rahm is always right (4.00 / 5)
It is one of the magical powers he stole from the Republicans.

It's his boss who's supposed to be right (4.00 / 6)
And an underling like Rahm who's supposed to take one for the team. Really, if Obama wants to know why so many people think he's a weakling, his toleration of his chief of staff's constant self-serving PR efforts is Exhibit A.

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that's this whole fiasco (4.00 / 3)
It beats me how someone can have the exact opposite of his recommend path forward come to pass, and still be vindicated.

The guiding principle on all 23.66 sides of the health care mess - Republicans, Blue Dogs, Coat Hangers, Judean People's Front, People's Front of Judea, everybody:

Everything that happens is evidence that my position is correct, and if you don't see that, you are either lying, stupid, delusional, ignorant, or some combination thereof.

There are a whole passel of graduate theses to be mined out of this, er, "process", I think.

not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.


Well said (4.00 / 2)
But Smith's point is a valid one. I'm not sure if you can attribute it to Rahm, but the bet Obama made, that most liberals would support basically anything called health care reform is a valid one. I wonder how shitty it would have to be before progressives said no thanks.  

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I don't wonder. (0.00 / 0)
It's clear, for the umpteenth time, that that have no bottom line AT ALL, on anything. At crunch time they're really no better than the "centrists".

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Kos said "no thanks" to the mandate without a PO for like a week (4.00 / 2)
then I guess he got uninvited to Robert Gibbs' pizza party because now he's on Team Fuck The Middle Class

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So stupid (4.00 / 2)
Team Fuck The Middle Class

Because health insurance that costs 8% or less of your income is such an ankle grab in a nation where HC expenditures are almost 14% of GDP...

There is no fucking of the middle class -- no mandate -- unless the insurers offer policies at 8% or less of income.

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


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health care and health insurance, of course, being the same thing (4.00 / 2)
hmmm

also once again I'm asked to believe that $2,400 is peanuts to a person making $30,000 ($24,000 after taxes) in a country where the average mortgage payment is $1600 and the average rent is around $700.  mere hundreds of dollars every month!

p.s. can I borrow $300? I hear it's not a lot of money


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Of course... (0.00 / 0)
...you'd gladly tax that person $2,400/yr for single payer*, so don't pretend it's about the money burden.

Or maybe you think health care and insurance against catastrophic events is free, free, free! and just grows on trees, and people should pay nothing for it, or something.

BTW, $2,400/yr is not $300/mth.

* Yes, single payer could be paid for with progressive taxation, but the middle class will still pay for a good chuck of it. Furthermore, the HCR bill will have subsidies for many middle class families, which is another form progressive burden sharing.

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


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I'd tax the rich at the rate we used to tax them back when this country wasn't a complete corporatocracy (4.00 / 1)
and use that + a modest (say, 2-3%) payroll tax to fund an NHS

or at least include a public option into this ratfuck Senate bill so the insurance companies won't be able to charge whatever the fuck they want for deductibles and copays

but no let's take money people can't afford to give for a product they won't be able to afford to use, much better plan


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If you really believe that (4.00 / 1)
I think you're going to be disappointed.

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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Read the GOP alternative... (0.00 / 0)
It could have been much, much worse!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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what if psychic squids invaded from the astral plane? (4.00 / 2)
so many possibilities (that are not the thing that is actually happening right now)

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you just think (4.00 / 2)
that they're not happening right now, but that's exactly what the psychic squids want you to believe!

not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.

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Don't need to (4.00 / 2)
We already have the status quo to tell us how much worse it could be.

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Wait, so you think the status quo is worse than even the GOP alternative? (4.00 / 1)
That explains why you're so happy with DoleRomneyObamacare.

Hey everybody, let's fix the unsustainable American healthcare system by passing a bill that makes it more unsustainable! That way, everyone will want to get on board and fix it later, even though it's a great and historic bill and the president has said that it's 90% of what he wants, anyway.

Hooray! Progressives of all stripes, from Jonathan Chait to Mudcat Saunders, rejoice!  


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Of course, after Rahm's first advice was rejected... (4.00 / 5)
...his next advice was that Pelosi should just jam the Senate bill through the House without any fixes and move on. That Pelosi advised the votes weren't there didn't stop him from continuing to push this. (Actually, I don't have time to google it, but I think Rahm's true first advice, before the break-it-up plan, was to shelve HCR and come back to it later.)

The Senate parliamentarian's supposed position notwithstanding, I speculate (because it would be irresponsible not to) that Rahm and the WH were insistent that the Senate bill be passed (and delivered for signature) with the House reconciliation vote so that the WH is ensured a signing victory regardless of the reconciliation bill's fate. There's no question that Pelosi and House members are facing a harder slog because of this.

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


Exactly (0.00 / 0)
"Actually, I think Rahm's true first advice, before the break-it-up plan, was to shelve HCR and come back to it later"

That's exactly what he wanted.


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The problem with Rahm (4.00 / 4)
is he's never had and never will have a "moral center" in his political philosophy.  Does he believe in universal health care coverage?  Does he believe in a progressive tax system?  What core political philosophy guides his outlook?  No one knows, probably including himself.  It's all about process for him.  Get something passed, no matter what the content, is his bottom line and his "core philosophy" as far as I can tell.  With that mentality, it's no wonder he thinks himself responsible for getting health care reform passed.


The bottom line is that Obama lost in many ways that are not immediately obvious (4.00 / 6)
First of all.  The magic wore off.  He's no longer "The One."  He's like a survivor of the Poseidon Adventure.  

Many progressives have lost faith in him, or worse.  His theory of bipartisanship looks like the Philosophy of Idiocracy.  Remember that "political capital" that W used to crow about?  Well how much does Obama have left?  Sure, Rahm crammed his neolib health care bill down our throats, but lets see how much support he gets from a base hanging head and puking bullshot.  Finally, Emanuel called us names, insulted us, and carved open large divisions among factions in the Democratic Party.  Doesn't sound like much of a hero to me.  But he did win. Kinda.  

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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The day the music died (4.00 / 1)
Lieberman backstabs on Medicare buy-in to the outrage of virtually every Democrat and Rahmbo the hammer goes to Reid's office to demand full capitulation.

Other's may have a different moment (and it was clear going back to the VP selection that Obama wasn't 'the great progressive hope') but IMO that was the single most demoralizing moment of the Obama presidency. He and the Democratic voting base have not yet recovered from it. Indeed, I don't think they recognize the damage done by it.

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


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Actually (4.00 / 2)
I think Obama's flagrant refusal to aggressively campaign for the public option was his downfall.  It's just sinking in, but I think a lot of people are starting to get the message.  This isn't going to get better for Obama.  

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.c...">http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.c...">http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.c...


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True that (4.00 / 2)
You note what I'd call a slow, glacial slide. To me, the tone-deaf, in-the-face-of-your-base backstab of the Lieberman sell-out was more of an earthquake moment. IMO, that was a jarring ground-shift in Obama's and the DC Dems relationship with the base voters (and activist workers) that I still don't think they fully recognize.  

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans

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November (0.00 / 0)
Don't forget the coming Democratic slaughter next election.  What a "winner" Rahm is.

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That'll be Howard Dean's fault. (4.00 / 2)
Somehow.

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Doesn't matter what we think here (4.00 / 3)
Cuz At Giordano doesn't think we're part of what he calls Obama's "authentic base". See, according to Al, anyone who meaningfully opposed this bill at any point isn't a real progressive.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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