Reminder: real and threatened right-wing violence has been around for years, decades

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Mar 25, 2010 at 12:43


As grotesque as the current threats, and actual, right-wing violence is over the health reform bill, it is equally important remember that such threats of violence, and actual violence, has been a longstanding right-wing tactic.  Consider an article I wrote three years ago about right-wing threats of violence on such small issues such as John Edwards campaign staffers movie reviews and a search engine optimization campaign I employed in the 2006 elections:

Much like the democratic means attempted by conservatives to outlaw abortion, the media pressure against Edwards didn't work. Unfortunately, the violent threats against Melissa did. Over at Pandagon, Amanda offers a taste of some of the tamer threats she received during the episode, and which it appears she continues to receive. Ultimately, it appears that it was the continuing threat of violence, not any media pressure or caving from the Edwards campaign, that allowed the right-wing to "take scalps" in this whole affair.

During the brief media frenzy surrounding my googlebomb campaign in October of 2006, I myself received about five dozen death threats that looked not unlike the ones Amanda posted at Pandagon. Also, when Michelle Malkin tried to attack two college students for engaging in anti-war protests, the college students also received dozens of death threats. Considering of this, it now seems pretty clear to me now that every right-wing media campaign against a mid-level Democrat or progressive is always accompanied with numerous threats of violence. It seems to be a ubiquitous back-up tactic of the American right-wing in the event that their media pressure fails to work, just as it failed to work against the Edwards campaign, and just as it failed to work against me when it came to the Googlebombs. As it the case with abortion providers, if you can't beat them using democratic means, and if you can't defeat them using your vast media empire, use death threats as a final tactic to force relatively powerless individuals to bend to your demands.

These are just a few examples from many.  The violence against abortion providers, and the many assassinations of the 1960's are glaring examples.  Here is another one: NRSC chair John Cornyn blaming judges for the political violence against judges in 2005.  And another: Republican activists riot to shut down a recount in Florida in 2000.

Markos, who is indeed an expert on receiving hate mail, notes that many of these "threats" are actually just "death hopes."  Still, they are pretty menacing and shocking sort of comments to receive.  And they are ubiquitous for any Democrat or progressive who prominently defies the right-wing on even minor things like, say, search engine optimization campaigns.

Terrorism and threats of violence frequently appear in the background of right-wing political discourse.  Current events are more a difference of degree than of kind.

More on this coming on Open Left shortly.

Chris Bowers :: Reminder: real and threatened right-wing violence has been around for years, decades

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Digby's been on this case for a while now ... (4.00 / 1)
and so was Rick Pearlstein(the guy who wrote Nixonland) .. before he went off to write another book  .. they have archives talking about it .. and documenting that it goes back to at least Kennedy(modern GOP wise)

It's our fault of course... (4.00 / 1)
So says the NRCC, Cantor, and seemingly several other prominent Republicans.  I'm sure this will clarify things and decrease the number of threats.

It's all because (4.00 / 4)
Liberals are so damned condescending. If we didn't hurt their feelings, they wouldn't have to go off on murderous rampages!

Montani semper liberi

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Yes (4.00 / 1)
And right-wing violence is a slap on the wrist compared to the violence done by our government.

If only the killing of thousands of Muslims outraged Dems half as much as the severing of a gas line.

And of course they're related: the violence done by our government and the violence in our society.  


I am sure you had a point, and there may be places where you have written more clearly. (0.00 / 0)
But this is sure light, and confused, and inappropriate.

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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I made my point quite clearly, thanks (0.00 / 0)
Do you honestly believe teabaggers are responsible for more deaths than our government?

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You are -an idiot. -and I accept that this may step over the line (4.00 / 1)
I have seen the point you have tried make in the past, seen the efforts at logic and how best to struggle (or so I thought) for progressive causes.
But I have no idea, no idea at all how, in the time of real social change, real crisis in the world, real threats to world peace, real threats of civil violence spurred out of control, and you speak about these threats to shoot our elected representatives that they pale in comparison to something else.

You are no democrat. I mean that as the worst possible insult that may understand.

Shame on you.  

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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I'm confused (0.00 / 0)
Is calling people an "idiot" still TR-worthy?


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Not in my book. (4.00 / 1)
We're all idiots from time to time.  Better to be called out on it than keep our heads buried in the sand.

Of course, one person's idiot is another's genius, so....

Health insurance is not health care.
If you don't fight, you can't win.
Never give up. Never Surrender.
Watch out for flying kabuki.


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Good point... (0.00 / 0)
Nuclear Weapons could still kill a lot of people and
Children are starving in Ethiopia and
Free Tibet and
Child slavery is terrible...

Right-wing violence really pales in comparison to these problems... may as well bring them all up.


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Except I was likening violence (0.00 / 0)
to violence. Do you honestly believe that there's no connection between government violence and violence in our society? Do you think McVeigh's stint learning to kill in the military had nothing to do with Oklahoma city?

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It's not a simple cause-effect relationship (0.00 / 0)
I think that McVeigh and all the sanctioned, government-run violence are parallel effects arising out of the same causes.

That is, violent American reactionism (broadly including racism, imperialism and a host of other things) has caused lynchings and Indian massacres and My Lai and "collateral damage" and Oklahoma City etc. etc.  


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Maybe it does... (0.00 / 0)
But the link seems fairly tenuous.  Additionally, violent crime has actually fallen in the last 2 decades despite the wars we've been involved in:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

And I'm not sure what your point is about McVeigh... Is all right-wing threats/violence done by ex-military?  Why isn't there nearly as much left-wing violence?  The left-wingers live in the same country under the same government, no?


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Of course (4.00 / 1)
It's not a direct line, nor it is the only cause, but if you take a look at the violent right-wing aside from the anti-abortion movement, it's almost without exception populated with ex-military men, people who've killed and lost people they know in war, or at the very least influenced by military lingo and culture. (To say nothing of the economic violence done to the lower middle class.) If you ask me, one of the more effective ways of fighting right-wing violence would be to combat militarism; at least it would be better than heavy-handed government actions that only increase the paranoia on the right.

But in any case, I didn't mean to go down this road. I was making a point about the selective outrage among Dems. Every few years we've get threats and actual right-wing violence, and Dems and progressives have a collective freak out. Meanwhile government violence--infinitely more harmful to the world and the country--continues unabated and mostly unopposed.


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The violence done by our government (0.00 / 0)
has been done under rightwing influence.

This is why rightwingers need to be kept as far away from political power as possible. When they control the government, they use the power of the government to invade, torture and kill. When they lose control over the government they turn to domestic terrorism trying to win it back.

Montani semper liberi


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I do not think that there is any longer anything worthwhile to say to Mr. Mizner. (2.00 / 2)
Our elected Reps were spit upon called faggot and nigger, threatened with gun violence, had their gas lines tampered with, and Mr. Mizner wonders if we can condemn it.

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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I strongly hope I am wrong. I strongly hope this is a small series of wrong headed mistatements. (0.00 / 0)


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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This is an example of why lefties have so much trouble accomplishing anything (0.00 / 0)
Here we have a clear cut case of right wing political violence in our country, and instead of unanimously condemning it we have a debate on whether we can condemn it since more extreme violence occurs in other parts of the world. Can anyone reading this thread seriously wonder why left wingers frequently seem so disorganized? This reminds me of when Michael "Dog Killer" Vick was indicted and the Huffington Post (among others) had a lengthy debate about whether Vick and Co could be condemned for torturing and killing dogs since we were at war and our society has so many injustices and imbalances.

Back to the topic of the post, aren't death threats, and other threats of violence, considered to be terroristic threats? If so, why aren't the people who make these threats tracked down, arrested, and prosecuted? I'm pretty sure that the FBI and Homeland Security are capable of tracking down people who send in threatening emails, even when they attempt to hide their identity. Is there some kind of exception to the law that is being made for politically related threats of violence that I'm unaware of?


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No (0.00 / 0)
The violence being done by our government is quite bipartisan. Periello himself voted for more war.  

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That doesn't negate my point. (4.00 / 1)
The Right controls 100% of the Republican Party but it also holds far too much of the Democratic Party.

Montani semper liberi

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Gotchya (4.00 / 1)
I might have trouble calling many of some of the liberals who support American militarism "right-wing," but your point is well taken.
 

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And Bush's grandfather (4.00 / 1)
was a participant in an attempted military coup against President Roosevelt.

Its not like its been going on for years and that treason is ok.

A few more warnings about incitement need to be spoken into the faces of a large number of oppositional political actors.


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


Trippi Claims Liberals Would Have Reacted the Same(!) (4.00 / 2)
Joe Trippi has claimed that Liberals would have gone nuts like the righties if HCR had not passed.

How specious can he get?

1) totally false equivalency between liberals (his word) who tend to use reason and right wingers, who believe that violence is first resort--shoot first, then think about it.

2) liberals were hardly 1000% behind the bill that emerged, so why would they have gone bonkers over it?

3) enough of this E-Z equating of 'left' and 'right': they are not the same, they come from entirely different theories of society, self and others.


found this on google news (4.00 / 2)

Perhaps the most extreme blame-shifting, however, came not from the Fox hosts but from former Howard Dean campaign manager and current Fox contributor Joe Trippi, who suggested that if health care reform had failed, "progressives and liberals" would be engaging in the same kind of "fringe" activity.

"What the Republicans are doing, I think, is actually hurting them," Trippi told Fox host Steve Doocy, noting that Americans "don't want this 'kill the bill' stuff, the fringe stuff that's also happening with some of the violence."

"During the break," Doocy commented, "you said to me that if this health care bill would have been defeated, people on the left would have been burning stuff and doing crazy things."

"Yeah," Trippi agreed. "People on both sides felt very strongly about this."

"These are fringe actors who are doing this," Trippi insisted. "They're not representative of conservatives, the Republican Party, or Tea Parties. These are individuals who are acting badly, taking the passion and energy and using it in the wrong way."

"That would have existed in the same way in progressives and liberals," Trippi claimed. "Had this bill gone down. I think you would have seen some of the same activity. Everybody should abolish it."

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/03...

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Dean should have a word with Trippi (4.00 / 2)
and tell him to STFU.

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