On meta-left discussions: no substitute for organizing people and marshalling resources

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Apr 06, 2010 at 16:47


In Quick Hits, community member House of Progress points us to a Harper's article on the current ineffectiveness of the American left.  It is not a new article (published last month), and I have not read it (although it looks interesting, as it offers a century-long historical context).  However, there is no shortage of articles discussing the ineffectiveness of the American left, and so I wanted to take a moment and comment on those articles in a general sense.

Whatever you perceive to be the shortcomings of the American left in affecting political change in this country, and whatever the actual shortcomings may be, there is no quick fix or gimmicky solution.  Just developing better framing, finding candidates with different demographic backgrounds, yelling louder, or holding firmer to your principles or stated negotiating position isn't really going to do much in the end.  Fundamentally, it all comes back to persuasion and organizing: using your message and your current resources (volunteers, money, media, technological tools) to marshal as many supporters and new resources as possible.  From that point, you apply that message, those supporters and those resources in an attempt to change the institutions you would like to see changed.

This is obvious in elections, where campaigns are in the public business of gathering resources (money, volunteers, media appearances, endorsements) in an attempt to spread their message and convince a majority of the electorate to vote for them.  But, this applies to legislative campaigns, too.  Even then, persuasion and organizing is still all there is--members of Congress just become the main electorate.

If you find existing progressive infrastructure woefully inadequate, I am not writing this to dismissively say "go start your own organization."  Rather, I write this, as I have written this in the past, because it is the way I look at politics, and it is the only solution I have on offer.  No matter who you are, if you want to make a difference in politics, then you persuade people to join you in a cause.  Once you do that, then you convince them to take a collective action on behalf of that cause (even if that action is just voting).  And then, most importantly, if that actions ends up making a difference on behalf of that cause, then you will probably be more persuasive and convincing in the future.

That's it.  There is no great strategy to be unearthed.  There is no secret that everyone else working in politics has missed.  It's just persuasion and organizing.

In this context, three things need to be remembered whenever "why the left sucks" articles appear:

  1. Obama still dominant among the center-left Right now, no one has organized more people in the American center-left than Barack Obama.  It isn't even close.  By at least an order of magnitude, he has more supporters, a bigger email list, more volunteers, and more donors.  As just an example, in November of 2008, he had eight million more emails than even the ultimate online behemoth, MoveOn.org.  Because of this, he has more support among the membership of many progressive organizations than even the leaders of those organizations (not all of those organizations, mind you, but most of them).  Obama's persuasion and organization among the center-left rank and file makes it almost impossibly difficult to marshal enough resources to effectively oppose him from the left.

  2. Center-left still heavily outgunned by the right  With the possible exceptions of popular support and familiarity with Internet tools, the right still outguns the left when it comes to every type of political resource.  They have a bigger media empire, they get more quotes within mainstream media, they have more money, more lobbyists, they publish more polls, they make about twenty times as many calls to Congress, and they have higher voter turnout. They do more, and have more, of pretty much everything.

  3. The critics aren't exempt. "Why the left sucks" articles are actually persuasion pieces, and thus part of the politics process described above.  The authors are targeting grassroots lefties and leaders of center-left organizations, urging them both to take a new direction with the application of their resources.  They do not stand above or outside of the political process--they are an inevitable part of it.  As such, if they think the left has been largely ineffective, there is no way to exempt themselves.
Complaining about "the perpetual campaign" as, for example, Evan Bayh did during his retirement announcement two months ago, has become commonplace and cliché.  However, politics is nothing if not a perpetual campaign of persuasion and organizing.  In fact, that is really all politics is.  Whether you think the left is ineffective or not, or even whether you are on the left you not, if you want to make a difference in politics, you have to deal with the brutal, never-ending difficulty of persuasion and organization.  No one is exempt from it, and no one will figure out a strategy around it.  It is the only way.
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Focus on education (4.00 / 2)
One great advantage we do have is the education system, especially higher education, which theoretically includes a reality-based curriculum.  Occasionally it even manages to convey nonstandard perspectives.  While it's not an answer in the short term, increasing our advantage in education and encouraging higher education should have a disproportionate long-term impact.  This may be one of the most efficient strategies available to us, especially given that we have many other progressive reasons to support education.  Alas, I have no significant data supporting this assertion save for the political leanings of college towns and people with non-MBA postgraduate educations.  Supporting or contradictory data, anyone?

Reality has a progressive bias (4.00 / 1)
so the more that people are exposed to reality and the less they are exposed to right-wing propaganda, the more they're likely to become progressives. Education in general and higher education in particular is very good for exposing people to reality (and contradicting much of the garbage they learn at their parents knees). So I would agree that this is one of our big advantages (though I don't have any specific data to back it up). However, being progressive is not nearly enough -- we also need to teach/encourage/help/mentor people into being activists and actively working to organize others and challenge the right. And right now, most colleges are under attack by the Right, often by saying there isn't enough money for real teachers, we have to substitute poorly-paid Adjuncts or shift to pre-packaged internet classes to pay for our brilliant president and upper managment. Taken to the limit, colleges would give credit for people watching Glenn Beck and use all the tuition to pay the university president more. So we have lots of battles on campuses too.

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Holding elected progressives to account (4.00 / 4)
Yea, I keep harping on this but...  I find it stunning that Federal elected progressives do not interact with the now substantial Internet-based progressive infrastructure and communities. This is certainly true of the House Progressive Caucus leadership and largely true for the rest of the caucus.

We can persuade and organize our asses off, but if those who are elected ignore us and fail to nurture/utilize what should be a significant asset where does that leave us? What does that say about them? (Elected GOP officials have had more interaction with Tea Partiers in nine months than most elected Dems have had with us ever.)

Bottom line: We -- the Internet-based progressive infrastructure and communities -- are still on the outside, looking in, even with progressive officials. That must change if we want to affect public policy outcomes.

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


I agree. But the way to get influence... (4.00 / 9)
...and communication with those elected progressives is not always to be making demands and rarely saying "great job," especially "great job" when they do things like, for example, introduce pieces of legislation that their unprogressive peers will never let see the light of day. We need to be asking, what can we do to help you do your job for us better? And take their answers seriously.

The concept of carrots as well as sticks is something we on the left often give lip service to, but we're far better on sticks than carrots.

If we want working relationships with elected progressives, then we should do all we can to make them WORKING relationships. We should be there for them 90% of the time so that when we really want something, asking them for our 10% doesn't just come out of the blue attached to an ultimatum: "Hey! I voted for you and gave you $25, now sign my pledge! Or else."  


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A more dynamic view (0.00 / 0)
Notwithstanding the 'hold to account' title of my original comment, my view of this is more dynamic. There's a tremendous amount of talent -- creative, analytical, strategic, operational etc. -- in the broad, online progressive infrastructure and communities. As far as I can tell, there is no strategic or tactical effort by elected progressives to use any of this. There's not even a regular dialog or interaction between them. IMO, it's malpractice on their part.

Just by way of one example: The two Co-Chairs of the House Progressive Caucus have never posted a diary at Dkos. Think about that -- one of the largest progressive online communities and they have never found any reason to communicate directly with it. Nor to my recollection have they communicated through meaningful dialog with the front-pagers or Kos himself. This is just one data point and maybe even a poor example of what they could do with progressive online resources, but it's a telling data point.

Finally, my beef isn't policy-based, it's about the practice of politics and effectively marshaling progressive forces to maximum effect. Policy focused benchmarks driving carrots or sticks is much too myopic to solve this problem. Are they effective leaders and politicians (in the broadest practice of that words)? That's what we should be demanding of them. And our effectiveness requires that they be responsive and accountable to those demands.

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


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The Richard Rorty theory of organizing (0.00 / 0)
I call this the Richard Rorty theory of organizing. Its all about persuasion, and the actual techniques of how you persuade is sort of besides the point. Thus, for Rorty, it doesn't really matter if your arguments match up with something called empirical evidence or not, since what matters is whether or not you persuade other people to play your language game. Here, successful organizing is based on...succesfully persuading people to join your organization.  

I actually agree with you, but I suspect your critics on this site are going to respond that "framing," "holding firm," etc. are in fact part of the means of persuading people. Or that you are selling out by not suggesting that allegiance to empircal truth-with-a-capital-T trumps everything else. (The accusation of selling your soul to the corporate overlords is a varient of that, by the way.) Both rsponses miss the point, of course, but I do think they indicate that this particular argument isn't, itself, that persuasive to a lot of people. Progressives are, for the most part, sort of epistemologically old-school. So if you want to convince most people around here you probably need to make your argument through some sort of metaphysical framework. You've got to ground it in something solid that people who feel margnialized / betrayed by Obama can hold onto. Or at least something that appears to be solid, at least for the moment. Beats me what that is, though.


are you sure (4.00 / 2)
there's not just some kind of app we can get to do this?

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lol (0.00 / 0)
on the other hand, if there is one, I will add it to the devices I use.  

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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Yeah, I think there might be. Not sure how to use it, though.... (0.00 / 0)


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Thanks for this. (4.00 / 5)
On its base it is completely correct. There is nothing except organizing to run a democracy. It will never end. It will go on till the end of time. We need to organize each and every day.

I said as much recently, explaining thatr the reason we are in some trouble is because party organizers were not being populist for example and rousing support in ways that people could not only understand but feel.

They said it wasn't their fault they hadn't ever organized anyone, or sat on a party committee or run for office.

I said on the contrary...

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


Yes, yes, yes. (4.00 / 5)
This is so, so important and no one pays any attention to this fundamental truth.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.  

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yep, i'm not happy with democrats, but i'm not gonna sit around and wish i could vote for somebody else (4.00 / 3)
i'm gonna roll up my sleeves and get to work, with the limited resources i have.

Are those as mutually exclusive as you imply? (0.00 / 0)
Organize AND wish for an alternative for which to cast votes and $.

Putting aside the notion of organizing to make viable alternatives to the two M$Ps a more tangible reality, of course. No reason to poke the "Naderites", you know.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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This is true (4.00 / 9)
Just developing better framing, finding candidates with different demographic backgrounds, yelling louder, or holding firmer to your principles or stated negotiating position isn't really going to do much in the end.

However, I'd wager that consistently failing to do these things impedes efforts at both persuasion and organizing. And deep framing (as opposed to surface framing or spin) is so interconnected with these two things that I am not sure you can separate them. How can we come together or convince others to join us if we don't know who we are or what our values are?

That said, you're absolutely right that there does seem to be a lot of talk that suggests that there is some magic bullet, when really politics is hard work and about the long game.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


Yeah, that's true (4.00 / 6)
Those things do matter.  However, they are small tactical improvements, not full solutions in and of themselves. The overall strategy remains the same.

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Successs opens new strategies, no? (0.00 / 0)
Push the envelope, so to speak? "Emboldened", I think they used to call it. Back in the day. Keith Ellison sounded such on local public radio call-in show. Maybe something from Eric Holder or some Congressional committee to parallel the UK Iraq investigations, perhaps? Might create some space on Afghanistan, all the way 'round. Hearts and minds on the homefront. A little sugar helps the medicine go down.

Fragilistically.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Pro-Corporate forces have a bit of an advantage (4.00 / 1)
In the current political and financial climate, being someone who is backed by the vast majority of corporate interests, as opposed to someone who is battling against them, will make it significantly easier to raise money, and far more likely to gain publicity through their various forums.

In a time when corporations are pretty much buying up the country, lock, stock and barrel, I think many of these pieces are pretending that only wimps lose battles to privateers.  Privateers aren't just beating the left, they are beating just about everyone in their bid for world domination.  

People can say that that makes the those trying to change this dynamic "losers" all they want, and that probably makes the Big Corps as happy as they can be (since it humiliates many in their opposition into submission).  But, even if the forces of privatization keep stomping, those who have the nerve to stand up against them earn more of my respect than those who say, "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em," without ever trying to beat 'em.


Pro-corporate is not necessarily the same thing as anti-progressive (0.00 / 0)


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how is the weather in your alternate dimension? (4.00 / 1)
it's warm here, lately

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Going Meta: A Century of Ineffectiveness by the Left? (4.00 / 3)

Not so much.

Let me count the ways:

Direct election of senators, 1913
Women get the vote, 1920
Social Security and the New Deal
Integration of the armed forces
Federally subsidized housing
End of de jure segration
Medicare
Voting Rights Act
Rise of women's rights
Lowered voting age, 1971
Abortion legalized
Recognition of rights of the disabled
Health Care Reform

While the path has not always been straight or downhill, it has been steadily to the left. We are a far more "leftist" nation that we were a century ago.  While the right has stalled progress over much of the last two decades and huge challenges remain, notably increasing inequality of wealth and income, indisputably, the left has been far more successful in driving reform in this nation than has been the right.  The right has mainly succeeded in slowing, not stopping, the movement toward equality and progressive national policies.



How Could I Forget? (0.00 / 0)

Add increasing recognition of LGBT rights and movement toward marriage equality.

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Totally. (4.00 / 1)
The major exception -- and its a big one -- would be the growth of the prison population as our way of dealing with the  problem of the color line.

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Unfortunately (4.00 / 3)
the military-industrial has a much bigger hold on our country and and our consciousnesses than it did a century ago. There was a time when a Civil War or a World War I would give large numbers of people pause and they would wonder if it really made sense to wage war. Now, we just move on to figuring out how we can best turn war into a giant video game played by soldiers in Nevada who manipulate drones to kill anyone who gets out of line. And the environment is in much worse shape overall (high concentrations of global warming gases, large numbers of species extinction, fishery collapses, topsoil losses, plastic islands floating in the Pacific, etc, etc.) than it was a century ago.

We've won many battles -- and thanks for listing some of the better ones -- but we've also lost a lot.

On the positive side, I'd add all the advances in sanitation, medicine, and technology that have made our lives much better and longer than our forbears. These are all built on one of our best achievements: scientific discovery and advancement. As painfully slow and awkward (with many detours down blind alleys), the scientific method has helped our society learn how to behave in useful ways and stop doing useless or destructive things. If our society could just implement all the good learning we have developed in such things as childrearing and nonviolent conflict resolution, our society could quickly overcome many of the problems that still plague us. But the levers of power are still held mostly by those who are only interested in their own power and money, not in creating a society that is good for everyone.


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Liberals/Progressives need better branding (4.00 / 3)
There is an ideological chasm between true liberal Democrats and Third-Way Democrats.  In a properly-functioning democracy, they would be separate parties and have entirely separate fund-raising and organizing mechanisms.  In our broken Democracy, the two parties get combined into one. And liberal, grassroots Democrats waste time and money organizing on behalf of people who are ideologically opposed to them.

In the short to medium-term (and likely the long term) we are stuck with a two-party system.  So, liberal Democrats need to co-exist with Third-Way Democrats.  But liberal Democrats need to do a much, much, much better job of organizing and fund-raising productively.  

Organizing and fundraising productively begins with branding.  Liberals desperately need brand identity.  They need to be able to distinguish, at a glance, liberal Democrats from Third-Way Democrats.  In short, they need to be able to distinguish friends from allies.   (Third-Way Democrats have that branding with the "Blue Dog" label and their affiliation with the DLC or New Democrats.)

It is hard to overstate how much Third-Way Democrats -- who have money, institutional power, and vast political influence, but little grassroots support -- benefit from this confusion.  Obama's organizational support may be unrivaled within the Democratic Party.  But that is only because his supporters are not (consciously) forced to choose between supporting Obama and their liberal values.

If litmus tests are unacceptable for membership in the "Big Tent" Democratic Party, then it is essential that the liberals/progressives market their brand and require litmus tests for anyone claiming the brand.  Actively discourage donations to non-branded candidates, except in limited tactical situations where a non-liberal Democratic candidate in a red or purple state has made explicit promises to support liberal positions in exchange for the support of the liberal/progressive community.  I understand that liberals and progressives are much smarter about watching where their money goes than they were 5 or 10 years ago, but we need to increase this awareness by multiple magnitudes.

Yes, building a coalition with Third-Way Democrats sometimes makes sense.  No, they aren't in the same party as me.  I do not trust them. And I do not share their goals.


A further problem (0.00 / 0)
is that the DLC types keep saying that they are liberals or progressives, confusing everyone about what those terms mean.

I think you are right on about all this, space.  Thanks.

Educate, Agitate, Organize, Mobilize, Act!


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Baker agrees with you (4.00 / 5)
He ends with:

The idea of modern American liberalism has vanished among our elite, and simply voting for one man or supporting one of the two parties will not restore it. The work will have to be done from the ground up, and it will have to be done by us.

Baker's piece is valuable because he persuasively argues that liberals' problem is largely psychological--a point the netroots has been banging home for years.

Democrats have been reduced to a state of psychological helplessness, one in which political obstacles-ranging from the prevarications of stalking horses like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson, to the plaintive cries of the tea-baggers out in the streets, to the sterner demands of the Joints Chiefs or Big Pharma-are transformed into insurmountable organic obstacles.

(On the downside, perhaps, he overlooks other factors like the influence of corporate cash.)

Baker, a historical novelist, also gives a good history lesson, focusing largely on the 19th century populists who rose up against two morally bankrupt parties:

Gathered under the banner of the People's Party, and inviting input from everywhere, the Populists quickly assembled a host of solutions and formulated ways to get them done-perhaps the most imaginative and genuinely grassroots political movement in American history.

The leaders of the People's Party organized a circuit of thousands of farmer-lecturers who spoke to audiences about problems they knew, in terms they understood. The Populists had ideas for dealing with every obstacle-many of them amazingly sophisticated and effective. In the halls of the nation's legislatures, they demanded the public ownership of railroad, telegraph, and telephone infrastructure; a graduated income tax; the direct election of U.S. senators; recall provisions; the secret ballot; laws to allow labor unions to organize; an expanded money supply; and a "sub-treasury" system of storing crops so that farmers could not only wait for the most favorable conditions before putting their goods on the market but in the meantime could draw credit from that reserve rather than from Wall Street.

Clearly Baker sees the 19th century populists as a model for liberals today (though without the farmers.) That is, he thinks we need a progressive populist movement outside the Democratic Party.

Which brings me to my point. Of course, organizing and persuasion are key. The question is how are you are organizing. I think more and more progressives are wondering, along with Baker, if this party can be saved.



"the question is HOW to organize" (4.00 / 1)
I think David gets it exactly right here, when he says the issue is how to organize.  If there was unanimous agreement among progressives that we put forth the best effort possible throughout the health care debate (and on other isues), maybe we wouldn't need this discussion.  But I think a little introspection would do progressives some good in deciding how to adapt our strategy in the wake of health care reform.

From my perspective, there are two different major styles of organizing: 1) top-down mass email lists controlled by staff of large, mostly D.C.-based organizations (e.g., OFA, MoveOn, Democracy for America, PCCC) and 2) authentically grassroots efforts in which decisions (about goals, strategy, tactics) are made in a democratic and decentralized way.  

While the former can aggregate money for progressive candidates and causes, it does a poor job of getting people out in the streets and building lasting progressive infrastructure at the local level.  The latter organizing style is the one used by successful social movements for workers' rights, civil rights, women's rights, and is arguably more prevalent in today's immigration rights movement.

Right now, the top-down online organizing style is most popular, but I don't think it is most effective.  And if we continue to organize in the same way, we're likely to see the same results.  Because a substantial proportion of progressives are not satisfied with the results we've achieved to date, I think there is a strong case to be made for shifting some of our efforts toward democratic and decentralized organizing along the same model used by the labor unions.


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I agree with much of this but... (4.00 / 2)
I think the framing issue is sidelined here.

If you think about some of the most successful candidates in rallying support, and fighting for their ideas-- you'll see they tend to get framing. Obama gets framing. Howard Dean gets framing. Rahm hates the concept. Gore did not get it. He is getting it now.

Republicans sunk millions upon millions into communications and messaging. That is how you change people's minds and that  ultimately rally people. You can't just organize and rally people - you need ideals and you need a fight. That is where framing comes in.

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Maybe the reason Obama is more persuasive is (4.00 / 3)
because he has co-opted our voice.  Addressing dailykos specifically, I would be ROFLMAO if anybody had told me in 04 that dailykos would be pushing "DLC" victories, polices, and governance in 2010.  I don't mean to drag dirty laundry around; but when Obama gags mutes the left blogosphere, it is no surprise that the left is getting out-gunned.  We've never had the money to compete, but we were developing a voice.  Now, we have DNC talking points on left radio and the front page of dailykos.  Add in lynch mobs in the diaries, and you have a coup of the only media and voice we had.  As we discovered five years ago, we can't compete with a gag in our mouths.  

There is no alternative (4.00 / 3)
to winning arguments.  Among rank and file Democrats and even most Progressives, Obama has made and won a critical argument:

What I have done and propose doing is the most that can be accomplished given the makeup of the legislature and the strength of the opposition against me.

In fact, the rise of the Tea Parties and the attacks from the right have given strength to the core argument Obama makes.  

I think there is a sense, even among most rank and file liberals, that opposing Obama in a meaningful way is simply too risky in the current political environment.  

This reluctance among the rank and file is, I think reflected even in the blogs.  In support of this I offer two pieces of evidence:

1.  The lack of any posts about Iraq on the front pages of the major blogs.  I can count on one hand the number of posts about Iraq on the major blogs this year.

And yet no single issue is more responsible for the rise of liberal blogsphere than the Iraq War.  Did liberals suddenly forget that they were against the War?

2.  The speed with which Markos backtracked on HCR.  I can't prove this, but I think he began to suspect that opppsing the Bill would have consequences for him that he was unwilling to accept.



In fairness to Markos, everybody backtracked on HCR, except Hamsher. (0.00 / 0)
The Senate bill was completely unacceptable (at least that was the rhetorical position) as long as we were preparing to have a battle royale between the Senate Bill and the House Bill in a conference committee.  Once Scott Brown took our 60th vote and nuked any possibility of getting any kind of conference report through the Senate, then the already-passed Senate Bill became the only game in town.

That's not Markos' fault.  Note that Pelosi deeply opposed the Senate bill, and yet in the end it was she who resurrected it when a lot of the party was prepared to abandon HCR altogether, and it was she who pushed it through the House and onto the President's desk.  A LOT of people had to flip-flop on the Senate bill after the Scott Brown election, including a lot of people more important and powerful than Markos.


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And, in all other respects I think you're right. (4.00 / 1)
The population of people who think that Obama could be pushing for much more than he is getting, and simply isn't due to ideological choice, is pretty damn small.  Right now they seem all to be at FireDogLake, although OpenLeft has been crossing over lately.

I'm undecided on that point myself.

But as long as most people believe this:

What I have done and propose doing is the most that can be accomplished given the makeup of the legislature and the strength of the opposition against me.
Then it is impossible to confront Obama directly among the base.

We can still pressure him, by convincing the base that x should be possible, so that Obama has to factor in the disappointment of his base to his decision calculus.  But that's not the same as a direct attack on his leadership.


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Iraq (0.00 / 0)
Any chance the new leaked video will create a groundswell that will provoke the Obama administration to look into the potential of cover-up and disinformation by the Bush/Cheney junta?


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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I wish (0.00 / 0)
but given the current head of the DOD I wouldn't hold my breath....

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A substitute (4.00 / 3)
Good legislation and good governing are still the most powerful tools that we have.  They generate long term almost unshakable loyalties.  The organized voices were strongly against FDR in the 1930s and the organized, monied voices got blitzed.  Medicare created a generation of Democratic loyalty.  Good government eliminated the Federalist opposition.  Lincoln's reforms as well as his success in the Civil War created a sustained period of Republican governance.

Yes the establishment seems all powerful but the centrists actually have virtually no constituency and the public is sick and tired of the corporates, Wall Street, and the big banks.

More people were marshalled for anti-war activities against Iraq than for any similar movement in world history.  The tea partiers are a pathetic joke compared to that turn out yet everybody that really counted was scared of the pro-war "voice."  That included virtually all of the possible Democratic candidates for President in the Senate at the time.

Do it right and let the consequences sort out.


This is also (0.00 / 0)
really important. It's not something that WE as organizers / activists can do. But it is something that we need our leaders to do when they are in office.

Reforming various parts of the political process to put more power in the hands of average people and less in the hands of wealthy people is important. All the positive feedback loops Chris has talked about in the past are important. Immigration reform is another big one. Even Republicans get this, that is why Kristol advised Republicans to tank Clinton's reforms in 94 as well as Obama's. If millions of people get healthcare because of your party they are going to remember that, and it's also great policy.  

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