Most common memes on Kagan thus far: liberal, not a judge, might be gay

by: Chris Bowers

Tue May 11, 2010 at 15:28


Following up on yesterday's article about the lack of coordination and coherency from Kagan opponents, and potential opponents, in their media messaging, this afternoon I conducted a quick survey of Google News keywords to see what narratives were sticking on Kagan.  I don't claim this to be a scientific survey, but hopefully it still provides some insight into where the fight to define her currently stands.

Overall, since Sunday, there have been 16,360 stories on Google News ith the exact phrase "Elena Kagan.  Here is how often the following possible memes on Kagan were found in news stories that contained her name:

The good news for the White House is that no single meme is very dominant.  Even "liberal," the most common term I could find, fails to appear in even 20% of articles on Kagan.  As such, my main speculation from these numbers is that there really is no narrative developing on Kagan at all.

The less positive news for the White House is that even though there is no dominant narrative, two of the two most common mini-narratives appear to be over her lack of experience as a judge, and that she might be a lesbian.  With positive memes, such her intelligence, not receiving much play, this nomination process could end up taking an unexpected direction.

Might this fight end up being, somehow, over whether or not Kagan is a homosexual, whether or not that is OK, and whether or not she hid this from the public?  At this stage, that seems entirely possible to me.  Not much else is sticking to her right now, and that certainly seems like the type of storyline that could take off in a way that virtually nothing else listed here could (with the possible exception of the military recruiters on campus story).  If this does happen, don't be shocked.

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How about "elitist"? (4.00 / 2)
That's the first thing that struck me about her - that she's a prototypical BosNyWash insular elite. I can imagine other liberals having that problem with her as well.

And of course, it's the sort of baseline response that conservatives will have to any person associated with the Democratic party in any way... So I could see the 'elite' tag coming at her from both directions.


bah (0.00 / 0)
And just now I notice that that's already on your list. But still, I could see it gaining steam.

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No doubt in my mind (0.00 / 0)
That people- both right-wingers and gay activists- are digging to find out whether she is a lesbian and make that the story.


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Which makes the diggers on both side (0.00 / 0)
equally disgusting. Andrew Sullivan and his asshole buddies may have just killed DADT reform for this year -- and I can't blame people for losing interest if these "activists" are what we're supposed to be fighting for.

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I don't see how that defeats her confirmation (4.00 / 1)
It will only be an issue for Repubs, and for those for which it will be, they weren't going to vote for her anyway, for other reasons. Even Repubs aren't dumb enough to make this an issue. If they try, it'll only backfire. Plus, who cares?!?!?

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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If only (4.00 / 5)
Liberal: 2,633

Don't I wish.


NEOCON! (0.00 / 0)
With Uncle Donald being one of the Founders of the American Neocon Movement, and his 2 sons (her 2 cousins), also neocons.

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Google vs. Google news (4.00 / 2)
The most common hit on Google seems to be "Elena Kagan New York" with over 3.2 million.  It gets only 2,200 on Google news.  Lesbian gets something like 141,000 on Google.  Not a big deal.

Every article here in the NY metro area is loaded with the NY angle.  Nothing else comes even close.  The NY Times has an article on her high school (whose most famous alum is Cynthia Nixon).  The NY Daily News keeps popping NY with confirmable.  Smart also makes their list.  Nj.com is not giving it the same level of coverage.

The lesbian angle is either a) Republican and/or b) media.  


For what it's worth, my local news station which has the best weather (0.00 / 0)
forecasts around, if sadly not the best reporting, is strongly emphasizing the military recruitment angle. So I wonder if this will be the red state meme ( purple state meme? I suppose NC is purple now, but much of the media is playing catch up.)The MSM, I would guess, is probably less inclined to speculate overtly on the gay angle than internet outlets. I don't doubt it will come up there, but with some vague and disingenuous distancing, "some say," etc.

"Librul! Librul! Librul!" (4.00 / 1)
The problem with that theme is that there's literally almost nothing to back it up. She's a stealth candidate whose views on most controversial issues are unknown (except to the White House and Obama personally).

The right wing would complain about anybody Obama picked, so we can expect that sort of nonsense. But, it has no traction in the absence of some wildly controversial THING she can be connected with: "Kagan was secretly counsel for ACORN for 5 years!"

That sort of thing. And there isn't anything or she wouldn't have been the nominee. No "nanny-gate" no college admission paper on the sadness of being gay in a straight world. Nothing.  


I think it depends less on this.... (0.00 / 0)
But, it has no traction in the absence of some wildly controversial THING she can be connected with: "Kagan was secretly counsel for ACORN for 5 years!"

...then on whether Democrats take the claims seriously. If Democratic members of the caucus started to talk about their concerns about her views, it wouldn't matter whether there was nothing to back it up. (That said, I would be fairly surprised if this were to happen.)

This principle is not limited to Supreme Court nominees.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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change? (4.00 / 1)
Might this fight end up being, somehow, over whether or not Kagan is a homosexual, whether or not that is OK, and whether or not she hid this from the public?  At this stage, that seems entirely possible to me.  Not much else is sticking to her right now, and that certainly seems like the type of storyline that could take off in a way that virtually nothing else listed here could (with the possible exception of the military recruiters on campus story).  If this does happen, don't be shocked.

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Might this fight end up being, somehow, over whether or not Kagan is a lesbian, whether or not that is OK, and whether or not she hid this from the public?  At this stage, that seems entirely possible to me.  Not much else is sticking to her right now, and that certainly seems like the type of storyline that could take off in a way that virtually nothing else listed here could (with the possible exception of the military recruiters on campus story).  If this does happen, don't be shocked.

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Her confirmation will be about (4.00 / 2)
1 - Experience (or lack thereof as a judge or lawyer)

2 - Ideology (or difficulty discerning)

3 - Elitism

She's going to be painted by the GOP as an out of touch radical Ivy League elitist liberal without much real-world experience. Which if you take out the radical and liberal part may well be true. She's going to get it from both sides.

She'll probably be confirmed, but progressives have got to draw the line here and not make it easier than it should be. It's one thing to appoint a center-right neoliberal elitist to Treasury or Interior. It's another thing to name one to SCOTUS.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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