Alan Simpson's idiotic pseudo-certainty

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Jun 19, 2010 at 10:30


ALAN SIMPSON: They never knew there was a baby boom in '83.

Former Senator Alan Simpson's greatest accomplishment in life was being born the son of Milward L. Simpson, a former governor of Wyoming as well as US senator.  He's probably best known for smearing Anita Hill when she dared to testify about Clarence Thomas's sexual harassment of her, but now he's the Co-Chair of the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.

Like so many other Obama carry-overs of the Nixon/Reagan/Bush regime, this commission is dominated by the "logic" of trusting the mess-makers to clean up the mess, so Simpson's Co-Chairmanship is a perfect fit.  He served in the House from 1964 to 1977, and in the Senate from 1979 to 1997, serving as Republican whip from 1985 to 1995.  In short, he was right in the thick of things as Senate Republicans helped Ronald Reagan put an end to fiscal responsibility with his massive tax cuts and bloated Pentagon spending, which continued indefinitely despite the oceans of red ink they unleashed.

This week, as DaveJ highlighted in his diary "Deficit Commission Co-Chair: Social Security T-Bills Have 'Been Used', Alex Lawson of of Social Security Works managed to confront Simpson with a video camera while he leaving one of the commission's secret meetings.  Lawson asked some fairly straight-forward questions and Simpson responded in his typically abusive manner.  Firedoglake has the [almost] full transcript , minus the first three lines I've transcribed here:

ALEX LAWSON: "Senator, how are you?  How'd it go today?"

ALAN SIMPSON: [Inaudible]

LAWSON: Mainly focus on Social Security today?

SIMPSON: We're really working on solvency... the key is solvency

LAWSON: What about adequacy? Are you focusing on adequacy as well?

SIMPSON: Where do you come up with all the crap you come up with?

SIMPSON: We're trying to take care of the lesser people in society and do that in a way without getting into all the flash words you love dig up, like cutting Social Security, which is bullshit. We're not cutting anything, we're trying to make it solvent.

SIMPSON: It'll go broke in the year 2037.


So, why exactly is the question about adequacy "crap"?  And why does President civility have someone who spouts off like Simpson co-chairing his commission? Maybe Obama's commitment to civility isn't really all it's cracked up to be? Fierce advocate, much?

But, moving onto substance, Simpson claims, "We're not cutting anything, we're trying to make it solvent", which if true would mean that they were looking exclusively at ways to increase revenues. One obvious way to do that would be to raise the cap, and tax everyone's income equally without limit. Or you could even make the tax progressive.  Or you could look for outside funding sources, such a stock transaction tax.  A tenth of a cent for every high-speed stock transaction, say.

There are lots of options if Simpson were telling the truth here.  But, of course, he's not.  Otherwise, they wouldn't have to be (a) doing this in secret (b) for congressional action after the mid-term elections, to reduce accountability to rock bottom.

Here's where it gets really good, though:

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LAWSON: But what about the $180 billion in surplus that it brings in every year?

SIMPSON: There is no surplus in there. It's a bunch of IOUs.

LAWSON: That's what I wanted to actually get at.

SIMPSON:Listen. Listen. It's 2.5 trillion bucks in IOUs which have been used to build the interstate highway system and all of the things people have enjoyed since it has been setup.

LAWSON: Two wars, tax cuts for the wealthy.

SIMPSON:Whatever, whatever. You pick your crap and I'll pick the real stuff. It has to do with the highway system, it was to run America. And those are IOUs in there. And now there is not enough coming in every month.

The highway system?  Not so much. Although the Social Security trust fund was already in place in 1983, the current $2.5 trillion surplus was largely amassed after that, as the result of a deliberate increase in taxes to build up the fund specifically to handle the changing demographics--both the Baby Boom and the growth in life expectancy.  As can be seen here, from 1977 to 1982, the fund drained down from $39.6 billion to $19.3 billion, and his been growing ever since.  The Interstate had largely been completed by then, as anyone alive at the time will remember. So Simpson's claim was absurd on its face.

But let's just add a little detail to the picture to underscore just how many ways Simpson--who served four decades in Congress--has gotten this wrong.

First, the beginning of the Interstate:

The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, popularly known as the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act (Public Law 84-627), was enacted on June 29, 1956, when Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the bill into law. Appropriating $25 billion for the construction of 41,000 miles (66,000 km) of Interstate Highways over a 20-year period, it was the largest public works project in American history to that point.

Then, the completion:

Although construction on the Interstate Highway System continues, I-70 through Glenwood Canyon (completed in 1992) is often cited as the completion of the originally planned system. The initial cost estimate for the system was $25 billion over 12 years; it ended up costing $114 billion (adjusted for inflation, $425 billion in 2006 dollars) and taking 35 years to complete.

And finally, the continuation of maintenance and incremental growth:

The federal contribution is overwhelmingly from motor vehicle and fuel taxes (93.5% in 2007), as is about 60% of the state contribution.

And what about the flip side of Simpson's claim?

SIMPSON:Listen. Listen. It's 2.5 trillion bucks in IOUs which have been used to build the interstate highway system and all of the things people have enjoyed since it has been setup.

LAWSON: Two wars, tax cuts for the wealthy.

SIMPSON:Whatever, whatever. You pick your crap and I'll pick the real stuff. It has to do with the highway system, it was to run America. And those are IOUs in there. And now there is not enough coming in every month.

Well, in 2001, when Clinton left the White House, we were running a surplus, and on a path to start seriously paying back the Social Security trust fund.  Since then? Well, take a look:

Alan Simpson:  Totally self-assured.  Totally abusive. Totally wrong.

In short: a perfect Republican.

But a perfect Republican to be trusted with the future of Social Security?

There is no such thing.

There are more unicorns who can be trusted with the future of Social Security than there are Republicans who can be trusted.

Because it's not just Social Security, you see.  As the above passages make clear, Simpson--who spent four decades in Congress--knows nothing about the Interstate highway system, nothing about the costs of the Bush tax cuts, nothing about the costs of the Iraq and Afghcanistan wars.

He is so ignorant about so many things at once that the mind boggles.

Take this one final example:

LAWSON: No, I understand that. But in my understanding from actually looking at the 1983 commission, they actually started prefunding the retirement of the baby boom by building up that huge surplus.

SIMPSON: They never knew there was a baby boom in '83.

WTF????

In May 1951, Sylvia Porter, a columnist for the New York Post, used the term "boom" to refer to the phenomenon of increased births in post war America. She wrote:
    Take the 3,548,000 babies born in 1950. Bundle them into a batch, bounce them all over the bountiful land that is America. What do you get? Boom. The biggest, boomiest boom ever known in history.

WTF??????

The 1983 Amendments

The National Commission on Social Security Reform (NCSSR), chaired by Alan Greenspan, was empaneled to investigate the long-run solvency of Social Security. The 1983 Amendments to the SSA were based on the NCSSR's Final Report."Report of the National Commission on Social Security Reform"....

Also of concern was the long-term prospect for Social Security because of demographic considerations. Of particular concern was the issue of what would happen when people born during the post-World War II baby boom retired.

Forget unicorns.  A wet noodle knows more about Social Security than Alan Simpson does.

More importantly, a wet noodle knows less about Social Security that's ludicrously false.


p.s. Dean Baker's take, "Will It Go Round In Circles: Alan Simpson and the Social Security Trust Fund", focused primarily on the main aspect that I avoided, in part because Simpson's confusion what not quite so novel there.  Dean wrote, in part:

But the best part of the show was Mr. Simpson's discussion of the bonds held by the trust fund. Simpson was anxious to tell Lawson that we had spent the money. They had a bit of back and forth over what the money was spent on. (Simpson emphasized spending on highways and infrastructure, Lawson pointed to the money spent on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Bush tax cuts.) But, both agreed that the money had been spent.

Simpson then implied that Social Security was broke because the money had been spent. Lawson pointed out that the trust fund held U.S. government bonds that are backed up by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government. Simpson acknowledged this point, even completed Lawson's sentence.

So, if the bonds held by the trust fund are backed up by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government, then what is the problem? The trust fund contains bonds that must be repaid just like the bonds held by Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, and rich people like Peter Peterson.

Where will the government get the money to repay the bonds held by Social Security? It will probably get the money from the same place it gets the money to repay the bonds held by Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, and rich people like Peter Peterson. We never ask where the government will get the money when Goldman Sachs or Peter Peterson want to cash in their bonds, why on earth would we ask that question when the issue is cashing in the bonds held by Social Security?


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Not to change the subject, but (4.00 / 1)
The cost to employ 10 million people at $50,000 per year is 500 billion dollars.

The non-Federal Reserve stimulus was 787 billion dollars.

So where are the jobs?

I doubt the fate of America will turn on the decipherment of what Alan Simpson said in 1983.

Unemployment? Yes.

I'll quote from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


The number of unemployed persons was 15.0 million in May. The unem-
ployment rate edged down to 9.7 percent, the same rate as in the
first 3 months of 2010.


Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rate for blacks (15.5
percent) declined in May, while the rates for adult men (9.8 percent),
adult women (8.1 percent), teenagers (26.4 percent), whites (8.8 per-
cent), and Hispanics (12.4 percent) showed little change. The jobless
rate for Asians was 7.5 percent, not seasonally adjusted.

In May, the number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks
and over) was about unchanged at 6.8 million. These individuals made
up 46.0 percent of unemployed persons, about the same as in April.

A national (if not global) political mass-movement hitched its hopes to the administration of Barack Obama.

Worry about what he does, not tertiary figures.


One of the great things about this interview (4.00 / 1)
is that it's going to come up all over again when the commission releases its recommendations this fall. Simpson is the Don Blankenship of social security.

Hopefully (4.00 / 2)
I really wish this were getting a whole lot more attention right now.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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If you build them, it will come (4.00 / 6)
Alan Simpson was a U.S. Senator the way Arthur Laffer is an economist. If Americans consistently express a preference for idiots, crooks and pathological liars, sooner or later there'll be no one else around. I'm afraid that when I look out my window this morning, I'm seeing a lot more sooner than later.

Perhaps I'll go back to bed, and pull the covers over my head. Braying asininity is hard on my nerves.


Alan Simpson's role in all this cannot be blamed on (4.00 / 5)
current American voters, but rather current American elites. Too often they are only offered a choice among  "idiots, crooks and pathological liars."  One can't expect people to care too much about such a choice (which helps explain the horrible turnout in U.S. elections) or for people to engage very seriously (which helps explain some of the choices for those who do turnout).

I suspect the bigger problem is that so much energy is misdirected convincing people that the most important thing is which party wins the election today, leaving intra-party battles and intra-election (?) dynamics obscured.  But as far as I can tell, people want to do more - mostly, they just don't know how.

So grab some coffee - because we need the likes of you in the world of the awake.

(Braying Asininity is a great name for a band, or a blog.)

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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In all fairness, (4.00 / 3)
President Obama doesn't seem to fit into any of the people's three favorite categories, but as Paul and others have often pointed out, he does seem to believe in the efficacy of lying -- if it's his lie, and if it moves us in what he considers to be the proper direction. This may not seem stupid, but in fact its the greatest stupidity politics is susceptible to, even politics in a putative democracy.

The benevolent lie, like the benevolent manager who delights in it, does have evil fruits -- evil in direct proportion to the number of people who swallow it. The testimony of 2,000 years of history is hard to wish away, no matter how elegant a liar you consider yourself to be, or how gullible a fool you turn out to be in the end.

There is no remedy but persistence, you're certainly right about that, and along the way, I suppose there's some comfort in being part of a long tradition of naysayers. Still, there are moments when anyone forced to bear witness to this manure wishes that he could command heavenly fire and brimstone.


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What's the choice? (4.00 / 1)
Americans would seem to have a preference for those who will reassure them that there are no trade-offs, they can too have a free lunch, that when the bill comes due they won't be the ones to pay it.  But, I wonder if it's really true.  When I think back over my voting choices, more and more, I want to look upstream as to where those choices came from.  There's what shows up on the ballot, and what came before.

I wonder if we're really as delusional as our apparent choices would make us seem, or if some of our choices weren't pre-determined.  Our own complacency make make those pre-determined choices easy, but I can't help but wonder in this three strikes culture, if we've really lost our good sense as well as our sense of fairness.


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maybe not a free lunch (4.00 / 2)
perhaps we can ask the guy at the table with the fat wad of cash to peel off a few so that all may eat

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I don't see it (4.00 / 6)
Americans have long supported paying higher taxes to support things they are in favor of - not just goodies for themselves but the basis for economic opportunity and security for all - education, health care, Social Security, Medicaid, even support for the poor (if designed right.)

But they aren't being given the opportunity to make a decision based on this - to take only the most egregious example, Angle may say she wants to dismantle Social Security and Medicare (although she's backing away from it) but Reid is actively making it happen through his support of, and appointments to, the Cat Food Commission. Taxes are off the table not because people won't support them but because they are literally unspeakable in the Village. The "crisis" is a figment of the bipartisan DC imagination, and is being used to make people complicit in their own demise - meantime the Veal Pen is filled with the organizations who ought to be sounding the alarm.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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Complaints (4.00 / 3)
Republicans constantly complain against Nancy Pelosi and rarely complain about Harry Reid.  The reason is self-evident.  The picks of Baucus and Conrad also show the danger of the conservadems.  They monopolize or at least dominate positions like this even when they clearly do not represent either the Democratic Party or the American people.  Reid could and should have left things safe.  The conservadems got their commission even when Congress said no.  Well, if there was a commission, liberals should have dominated it.  What about Jack Reed or Pat Leahy?  Bernie Sanders?

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I guess I should have included emphasis tags in that first sentence (4.00 / 2)
Americans would seem to have a preference ...

I didn't see it either David Kaib, until wages stagnated.  I see a bit more of it now.  But it's not unilateral, across every kind of policy initiative.  What I do see is people being confronted with the most poorly explained, convoluted nonsense that they flat don't trust it; either the policy itself, the policymaker who dreamed it up, or the entity that is going to implement it.  This is where I'm pretty convinced that our institutions are in crisis.  


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good pick for co-chair, Obama (4.00 / 4)
seriously, is there any reason to not look forward to a party schism?

Well, when even Steny Hoyer admits the commission exists for its (4.00 / 1)
PR value, I suppose we have to take him at his word. The appointment of Young & Rubicam's former CEO certainly seems to confirm it. But you might think it would have been noted that her term there was nothing short of Fiorina-esque. So the question remains: what is being publicly related here and how incompetently? Given the affiliations of the members of the panel, there ain't a chance of forming any legitimate consensus here. So, hmm... heated fractiousness in the name of bipartisan conciliation. Political genius at wrok.    

"Full Faith and Credit" (4.00 / 1)
Glad to see the P.S. from Dean Baker because FF&C needs to be a more prominent part of the Social Security debate. Claiming that the SSTF assets are 'spent/worthless IOUs' is tantamount to admitting that Reagan/Greenspan perpetrated the greatest fraud ever on the American people.

Maybe someone should ask crazy 'ol coot Simpson whether Reagan/Greenspan was just a huge fraud scheme...

...Adding, I still don't understand the logic of how replacing a looming baby boom SSI tax liability with a bond/TF liability is any real advantage. The TF revenues weren't going into a giant mattress -- they were designed to be lent to and spent by the government. Either way, government/taxpayers would be required to raise or borrow additional funds at the time the additional SSI payments are needed. Reagan/Greenspan was some serious bamboozling...  

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


Fraud (4.00 / 1)
There is no time left to indict and convict Reagan for fraud but there may be time to indict and convict Greenspan, Peterson, or others.  At the least, these malefactors of great wealth need to be placed where they can do no further harm.

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