Rant on Wall Street Reform bill achieving cloture

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Jul 15, 2010 at 11:58


The conference report on the Wall Street reform bill, which had already passed the House, just achieved cloture in the Senate, 60-38.  Three Republicans, Scott Brown, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins voted in favor.  Among Democrats, Russ Feingold voted against.  There is currently a vacancy in the Senate, and one Republican Senators did not vote.  It will now receive an up or down vote at some point between now and Saturday.  It will then be signed into law be President Obama.

While this particular bill is finished, and while it's a step in the right direction, the fight against Wall Street is far from over.

As I disclosed repeatedly, I worked on this bill, in a paid capacity, for four months (my work ended on July 1st).  With that work over, and the process on this bill finally complete, I am going to go off on a bit of a rant, in bullet point form:

  • Why the frak didn't we take up this bill last spring?  This bill would have been a lot stronger if we brought it up last spring, after the stimulus and budget fights, and before the health care fight.  In the worst depths of the recession, Democrats could have spent 8-10 weeks debating and amending the bill on the floor of the Senate, instead of the four weeks they spent doing so one year later.  The bill kept getting stronger on the floor of the Senate, and would have kept getting even stronger the more time spent debating and amending it in public.  We should have struck while the iron was hot.

  • Why the frak isn't there an organized community around this issue in progressive circles?  In the progressive ecosystem, we have longstanding green groups, civil rights groups, unions, immigrant groups, women's groups, and many more well-defined constituencies.  However, we simply do not have an organized constituency that fights large financial institutions on behalf of consumers.  The lack of this organized, institutional constituency is almost certainly why the bill was not taken up sooner--it meant there was no one pushing Congressional Dems or the Obama administration to take it up sooner.  If these regulations are ever going to get stronger in future fights, we need an organized constituency on this issue.

  • Yeah, the bill probably will not prevent a financial financial meltdown.  No shit, Sherlock.  However, holding that up as the only test as to whether the bill is worth passing is frakking absurd.  The bill does a lot of good in terms of protecting consumers and the broader economy in other ways, which I presented in detail here and here.  Should all new consumer protections be defeated because they will not prevent another financial meltdown?  And what other laws, which do good in ways other than preventing financial metldowns, should be repealed?  The Clean Water Act won't prevent another financial meltdown, but it is still a good idea that we regulate our water supply. Medicaid won't prevent a financial crisis, but it's still good that low-income Americans have access to public health insurance.  The Civil rights Act won't prevent another financial metldown--should we have voted against that, too?  Even if it probably won't prevent another financial meltdown, the bill still does some good things.

  • What's that you say, that passing the bill will give people a false sense of security that the problems plaguing our financial system have been repaired, and thus we won't try to pass a new wave of reforms in the future?  What utterly patronizing bullshit.  As someone who worked on the campaign for four months, I can tell you that there isn't a single advocate working on this campaign who thinks this bill is a total victory and we never have to bring it up again.   Every single person working on it knows we have a long, long way to go.  The country thinks that, too.  So do the majority of members of Congress.  How frakking special and superior to you think you are that only you realize we have not completely fixed our financial system, while everyone else has been lulled into a contented sleep with their fellow sheeple?  Patronizing horseshit.

  • This bill protects the status quo, huh?  Well you know what protects the status quo even more? The frakking status quo without this bill.  That's just a frakking tautology.  Defeating the bill is the status quo.  It's the exact same frakking thing.

  • Finally, while both Democrats in Congress and advocates working on the bill share blame for it not being stronger, everyone who wanted a stronger bill shares some blame for it not being stronger.  This is the bill that passed, despite everyone's best efforts, intentions, and rants.  Don't tell me that you wanted a stronger bill, and the failure to achieve a stronger bill doesn't at least partially rest with you.  I must have missed the part where you overran Wall Street defenses, while the rest of us were stuck with this bill.
There, I needed to get that all off my chest.

Despite this rant, I am still grateful to everyone who agitated on this bill.  I am even more grateful to the agitators who actually engaged and organized around the fight, rather than sitting on the sidelines.  While I am upset that the strengths of the bill are not getting attention, the necessary further fights against Wall Street will never happen unless the ways in which the fight needs to be continued are articulated.  It's just that I don't think it is fair, or productive, to dump on the people who actually engaged and organized in this fight.

Finally, someone needs to explain to me how viciously attacking the people who are fighting Wall Street will actually achieve stronger Wall Street reform in the future.  Once everyone fighting for stronger Wall Street regulations is discredited, then we will achieve stronger Wall Street regulations!  Yey!

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As I understand the Bill (4.00 / 2)
the Volkler rule is somewhat intact.  

The real question with this Bill, with the problems at the MMS, and to a lesser extent with HCR, is whether we can solve the problem of regulatory capture.

I think the Bill does give regulators substantial tools to help avert another crisis.  The question is whether they will use them.  


Like this bit… (0.00 / 0)
...the necessary further fights against Wall Street will never happen unless the ways in which the fight needs to be continued are articulated.

...so I kinda find myself wishing this space had been used for precisely that.

"This ain't for the underground. This here is for the sun." -Saul Williams


Thanks for taking the lead on this issue (4.00 / 1)
Considering Wall Street's lobbying War on this legislation, the woefully underfunded group of progressives cobbled together to fight for it deserve praise.

question about bullet 4 (4.00 / 2)
What's that you say, that passing the bill will give people a false sense of security that the problems plaguing our financial system have been repaired, and thus we won't try to pass a new wave of reforms in the future?  

I'm watching CNN and they are reporting that passing this bill will prevent another financial crisis. I understand from reading here and elsewhere that bill won't prevent another crisis but what do you do if that's the way it's being presented. Does the public at large  really know this if they are being told the opposite?

The problem I keep seeing is that a lot of the bills being passed definitely do some good but it's being reported and presented as doing a lot more than they really do.


It's a problem (4.00 / 2)
But I see no way around it.

The media will report inaccurately.  When don't they?

The people who exerted so much blood, sweat, and tears will not necessarily be the ones to set the record straight, nor will they want to.  In my labor days, we used to say "You don't piss on the settlement you just negotiated."  But you can't lie, either.

The way has to be found to get the word out that this despite what we'd like to think, and without casting aspersions on the ones who worked so hard on the partial victories, the war isn't over.

And that's what Chris is basically doing, so good on Chris.  The problem comes with the territory.


sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
Yay! "Progressives" Rock (4.00 / 1)
Yeah, the bill probably will not prevent a financial meltdtown. No shit, Sherlock.

Well let me the first to thank you, Chris, for working for four months on a Financial "Reform" bill that doesn't prevent the financial system from collapsing again.
The Wall Street crew - which is thriving and hiring, BTW - appreciates your efforts as well, I'm sure.

Every single person working on it know we have a long, long way to go.  The country thinks that, too.  So do the majority of members of Congress.

Well if the majority of the country and Congress think this bill needs to be strengthened that means it will be "improved" in 20 or 30 years, right? Just like healthcare.

Don't tell me that you wanted a stronger bill, and the failure to achieve a stronger bill doesn't at least partially rest with you.

Couldn't agree more. It's Bill the Butcher and Frank the Barber's fault - in part - that the people they elected to handle such important and complicated matters dropped the ball (Again!).

Great messaging, Chris. With folks like you leading the PR, I don't see how the Dems don't pickup at least 50 or 60 seats this fall.



So easy to write snark (4.00 / 2)
So what's your formula for doing better, wise guy?

Get all your friends to sit out the next elections?

We're all waiting with bated breath.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
The Clap for Chris Plan (0.00 / 0)
Well we could've nationalised the banks 2 years ago.
We could have prosecuted all the Banksters who participated in fraud (i.e. all of them).
Perp walks. Firings. Demotions.
We didn't have to bailout AIG (i.e. Goldman Sachs) 100 cents on the dollar.
Cap credit card rates at 4 percentage points greater than Libor - forever.

Regulate all Credit Default Swaps. Re-institute Glass-Steagall. Make banks choose either to be Commercial or investment banks (i.e. Goldman Sachs). Bailout Homeowners, especially those who are underwater (Not even considered, BTW).

And in the meantime, encourage & campaign  ALL homeowners/mortgage owners who are underwater to just flat-out STOP paying their mortgages. Put the $1,500, $2,000/month on mortgage payments away.
Save and Rent.
It's a much better - and smarter -investment!


[ Parent ]
Who's "we"? (4.00 / 1)
Just askin.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

[ Parent ]
"We're" all waiting with bated breath (0.00 / 0)
"Progressives"? the Clap for Chris fanclub? Dems? Obama Groupies?

I assumed you were the spokesman for "we".


[ Parent ]
"We could have nationalized the banks 2 years ago" (0.00 / 0)
That's a quote from you.

Which we were you talking about?  You and your friends who will sit out the election?

This is what's wrong with the whole NetRoots phenomenon.  You can just say shit without accountability.

Not so much when you actually have to talk to the person.  Just try that shit in a union hall after a long tough strike.

I am still waiting for your solution.  Oh, wait, maybe you meant

encourage & campaign  ALL homeowners/mortgage owners who are underwater to just flat-out STOP paying their mortgages. Put the $1,500, $2,000/month on mortgage payments away.

Hell of an idea.  But in that case why do we need reform at all?  Oh wait, seems the millionaires are doing it too.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
Real progressive heroes don't even try (0.00 / 0)
Real progressive heroes sit in the back row and throw around insults.  You should know that by now.

[ Parent ]
What are you the bouncer? (4.00 / 2)
It seems like your solution is "Whatever you say, Chris".

Really, the lack of depth, substance and self-importance affiliated with some on this blog is mind blowing.

Bowers has - over the last two years - proven he has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to the Finacial World.
None. Zip. Zilch.

And this "rant" just further illustrates the point. He was paid some coin by the DNC to lobby gullible "Progressives" on the greatness of this watered-down, next-to-useless bill. He bases his "analysis" on what Dem Pols and Dem operatives have whispered in his ear or through confidential e-mails. He's got to recommend the "Financial Reform" to the masses if he wants to get another four-month paid gig.

Meanwhile, rubes fall in line, Clapping louder and urging Chris...and his allies in Prog Blog World... to set the ungrateful Dem/"Progressive" citizenry straight on their need to vote for every Obama-endorsed candidate out there in November.

"Shut Up and Vote!"
Or else Sarah Palin/Teabaggers/Rand Paul wins.

And, oh yeah, give lots and lots of $$$.

Funny, if not so sad.


[ Parent ]
I'm just sitting in the back row (4.00 / 1)
throwing snark your way.  You should understand that, being an expert yourself.

The only way to not be a sellout in your nice, safe world is to not even try.


[ Parent ]
Clueless, meet Clueless... cont' (4.00 / 1)
I am fairly sure my street creds regarding mortgage/real estate/banking issues and in grass roots organizing for leftist causes (ya' know knocking on doors, talking to people) exceeds Bowers and most commenters here.

Anyone remember the term in the 1990's was National Healthcare...not the kabuki, Public Option (whatever happened to that BTW?). That evil Ralph Nader was big proponent of that so no doubt it has been scrapheaped from progressive archives.

Frankly, I've been poor, worked with and ate dinner at the homes of my fellow hardworkin' po' folks (or in Open Leftspeak, "unskilled" workers).
And whattaknow, I didn't get paid to do this.

Seriously, Earth-to-"Progs" -- anyone home!!


[ Parent ]
You think Chris is getting rich off this? (0.00 / 0)
Or what?

Chris isn't selling that the bill will prevent another meltdown.

You sound like a German Communist in 1932 hoping for a Hitler triumph so the shit will really hit the fan.


sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
Brilliant, Open Leftesque analysis (0.00 / 0)
Yep, it was the German Communists responsible for Hitler. Nailed it.

It had nothing to do with global austerian measures against Germany following WWI that starved the masses or a bloated bourgeouis class in German society at the time. Economic issues played no part in the Nazi Revolution.

Wow, nothing like trying to scare the "Progressive" rubes into voting for your guys.
Is this all you self-described Progressive Intellects got for this year and for 2012?

The cupboard's bare, eh?


[ Parent ]
Did I say they were the ONLY cause? (0.00 / 0)
No.

But they certainly were critical of their OWN tactics later.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
Um, no it doesn't... (0.00 / 0)
..."sound like a German Communist in 1932 hoping for another Hitler triumph so the shit will really hit the fan."

Where do you even get that?


[ Parent ]
Those for whom (0.00 / 0)
it is truly a matter of indifference whether or not the Republicans come back into power on the heels of the absolutely toxic far-to-the-right-of-Bush rhetoric might as well be like those benighted German Reds of that era who refused to make a united front with the other antifascists of their time..

It's one thing to point out that the DLC Dems always threaten us with the Republicans.  It's another thing not to take those threats seriously.  It's like being held up by a guy with a gun and not being afraid he might use it.  We don't have any idea how far these assholes might try to go if in power.  So I take it seriously, even as I gnash my teeth at the fecklessness of the Democrats.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
Silly Squared (0.00 / 0)
Why would anyone in their right mind vote for these finanicial terrorists? Plus donate $$$ and energy to these international criminals?

Brainwashed much?

Wake me up in November and let me know how the elections turned out. I'm on the edge of my seat with anticipation.


[ Parent ]
After the Tea Baggers ... (0.00 / 0)
the REAL PROGRESSIVES will take power!  We'll just be swept into office.  It will be clear to all that there is no other way.

Meanwhile, think I'll just waste away in Maragaritaville.

Have fun Bayville.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
Answered wrong question (0.00 / 0)
You don't think Chris couldn't come up with his own preferred policy much better than what passed??  You think that was the problem?

huh


[ Parent ]
great point (0.00 / 0)
also we should have invented food that grows in our mouths and solar skin and cured cancer with a new type of beer.

I can't wait until you're made dictator for life so we can get all that done.

Until, then, the rest of us will try to make the actual world a little better than it was yesterday and not shit on those who are doing their absolute best to do just that.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that 90% of what you just listed is something Chris would agree with.  The difference is he's actually trying to get it done and realizes rabid hatred for the only people who could possibly get it done is not gonna do anything.

Anyway have fun sitting on the sidelines...  You coulda been a contendah...


[ Parent ]
Many good points in your rant, Chris. (4.00 / 1)
Thanks for sharing them.  I especially liked this:

Yeah, the bill probably will not prevent a financial financial metdtown.  No shit, Sherlock.  However, holding that up as the only test as to whether the bill is worth passing is frakking absurd.  The bill does a lot of good in terms of protecting consumers and the broader economy in other ways, which I presented in detail here and here.  Should all new consumer protections defeated because they will not prevent another financial meltdown?  And what other laws that do some good should be defeated because they won't prevent another financial metldown?  The Clean Water Act won't prevent another financial meltdown, but it is still a good idea that we regulate our water supply. Medicaid won't prevent a financial crisis, but its still good that low-income Americans have access to public health insurance.  The Civil rights Act won't prevent another financial metldown-should we have voted against that, too?  Even if it probably won't prevent another financial meltdown, the bill still does some good things.


In closing, Prog Nonsense. (0.00 / 0)
Simon Johnson seems to disagree with Bowers' rosy assessment in this week's Atlantic.

http://www.theatlantic.com/mag...

This "Financial Reform" bill is theatre, a rouse, a cynical polticial move in order to allow Do-Nothing Dems to pad their collective resumes for November.

But then again, Creative Class giants like Chris Bowers probably know that already, right?


I think Chris is just trying to prove his conservative cred... (0.00 / 0)
...so he can get more paying gigs from the establishment Dem apparatchiks in the future. Where we're all headed after a year and a half of Dem incompetence and corruption, I don't blame him. If I wasn't genetically incapable of betraying fundamental Democratic principles, I'd be selling my soul to the devil too about now.

[ Parent ]
Thank you for your rant, Chris. (4.00 / 1)
Seriously.  You make excellent points that need to be made.  And thank you for your tireless work on this bill.

The public is not fooled... (4.00 / 2)
An Associated Press-GfK Poll finds that 64 percent of those surveyed aren't confident that a financial regulation overhaul before Congress will avert another meltdown.- HuffPo; 6/21/10

More recently, I thought I'd read a number that was quite a bit higher than 64%; haven't found it, however.

The truth is, no reform short of breaking up the big boyz in the FIRE industry would make much difference in preventing another major economic meltdown like we've just seen - and we haven't seen the bottom of this one yet.  I'm not confused about that.  

To me, Chris' rant is just the health insurance reform debate all over again; it echoes quite precisely, in fact.  I appreciate Chris' strong stomach for trying to make a difference in something where the outcome was as forgone as the health insurance legislation was.  Not everyone can wade into that kind of cesspool without tossing lunch.  So, good for Chris, that he had the gumption to do it.

The only dissent I'd offer is I'm real tired of the blame the victim feel of this rant.  Much gets written around here about how small out numbers are, how we need to recruit others who are underrepresented, the sheer weight of the reform of the Democratic Party that needs to be undertaken, the absolute in-viability of a third party, the need for infrastructure... yada, yada, yada.  And, I agree with all of that.  But, it's the poor "beleaguered me" flavor of the rant that seems downright silly in the face of what we know needs to be done before we can expect to have an impact that is more than cosmetic.

Chris did what he could do.  Kudos for that.  Sincerely.  If we had the numbers and the infrastructure the blame might be better placed; but we don't, and that's a fact.  At best it can be said that we are trying to mitigate the damage of a California sized forest fire with a garden hose.

Personally, I also give kudos to Russ Feingold for taking a stand that'll probably cost him on financial regulation reform and following through, in a way that Dennis Kucinich couldn't on health care.  I'll take guts and the courage of one's convictions wherever I can find it.


I'm all right with Feingold (4.00 / 1)
Someone DOES have to take a stand saying "this was not enough".  As was done with Health Care.  

Probably Feingold's vote was available as an absolute last resort, just as Kucinich's was on HCR.  Kucinich didn't sell out on HCR, contrary to what some said at the time.  He simply pushed it as far as he could.

You have to be able to have two opposite thoughts in your mind at times like these.

As for Chris's tone - yeah, it might have been better, it was obviously written in the heat of battle, uncharacteristic spelling errors and all, but I've already made allowances for that.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
A couple of quick replies: (0.00 / 0)


Dang, that was quick! (4.00 / 1)
:-)

[ Parent ]
That's what happens going from spreadsheet... (0.00 / 0)
...to blog post. Beware the keyboard combo: [Tab] [Tab] [Enter] [Enter].

[ Parent ]
A couple of quick replies: (0.00 / 0)
1) passing this bill will give people a false sense of security that the problems plaguing our financial system.

2) This bill protects the status quo.

3) I wanted a stronger bill, and the failure to achieve a stronger bill is absolutely not my fault.

I voted for a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress for my whole adult life so that when they got the supermajority they HAVE, they would act on principle and do the right thing. Suggesting that I think I'm superior, or that the failure of this bill to do anything worthwhile to restore sanity in the finance industry is my fault, or anyone else's but Democrats in Congress is shameful, Chris.

And you know it.


No, it's not your fault (4.00 / 1)
But if you were under the illusion that Dems would do the right thing and act on principle, just because you voted for them, you were extremely naive.

Now that you know it's not true, where to next?  Voting isn't enough.  More pressure needs to be applied.  And we have no power to punish the Dems in Congress without cutting off our nose to spite our face by putting Republicans back in.  That's not so smart either.  Going backward isn't a solution for being stuck.

So maybe we have to have analysis that's more sophisticated than reward/punish?  Whatever weakness there may be in Chris' methodology, he is not the problem.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
Not naive (0.00 / 0)
I knew they'd fvck it up.

And I'm going to scream and yell and throw things and howl and whine my ass off between now and November about how bad Democrats suck; then I'm going to vote for them all anyway. As punishment. They deserve to be reelected, en masse, in even larger numbers than we have now.

They made this mess worse. They need to get back to work next January and clean it up.


[ Parent ]
Well, at least you're not going to stay home :-) (0.00 / 0)


sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

[ Parent ]
OK, I'll come right out and say it… (4.00 / 1)
...the tone of this post just plain sucks. It reads like a passive-aggressive plea for praise even though everyone here knows the actual results were slight. Bullet Point 3 even compares apples to oranges ("...the Civil Rights Act won't prevent another financial metldown--should we have voted against that, too?"), as if that's helpful.

We'll never know the exact temperature of the coals Chris & Co. were asked to walk on (that'd probably make a nice diary, but truth is, I'm much too busy being unemployed to give it my undivided attention). But I really do appreciate that he gave it his best shot. That's not snark. Still, calling this post a "rant" doesn't change the fact that its crybaby tone sucks.  

"This ain't for the underground. This here is for the sun." -Saul Williams


There's another point of view: (0.00 / 0)
desperate times call for desperate measures.

This bill isn't a desperate measure, that we can all agree on.

Shall we conclude that these times aren't desperate enough?

They will be when The People, flailing around for a party to represent them (warts and all), turn back to the NIC Republicans (don't image for a moment that the "grassroots" right will have any influence. They will be betrayed as we have been).

When the MIC get's back in power we will have another war, we will have more terror attacks as, literally and figuratively, night follows day.

Get desperate.


Additionally, (4.00 / 1)
it doesn't matter what the law says, Chris.

They will ignore or bribe the regulators until they are afraid (physically) of the consequences of that lawbreaking.

Remember "Sarb-Ox"?

NEVER ENFORCED!

NEVER!

(apologize for spelling / grammar mistakes)


[ Parent ]
Thanks, Chris (0.00 / 0)
for the post and your work.

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