Why Gibbs' hippy-punching incident is pivotal, not trivial

by: Paul Rosenberg

Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 12:00


Gibbs Was Trumpeting Obama's Failure.

There was a superficial incoherence to Gibbs' hippy-punching, but that only masked a deeper incoherence.  The superficial incoherence was (a) essentially dissing the "professional left" as elitist, out-of-touch & politically irrelevant while (b) blaming it for bringing Obama down.

But the deeper incoherence is Obama's own political philosophy, strategy, and ideology.  He'd be fine, it could at least be argued, if he was up against Eisenhower-era Republicans like his grandparents and their friends.  But no sane person in the world thinks that he is.  And since he's not, everything he does is taking place in a sort of an Alice-in-Wonderland world.  If he wants to lash out and blame "the professional left" for this, that's fine.  But it doesn't tell us anything about anything except him--and how he blameshifts for his own failure on his own terms, the terms of a would-be "transformative reformer" out to battle special interests and return sovereignty to the people--something he obviously has not done.

Indeed, this supreme act of hippy-punching--barely more than two weeks after his supreme make-nice video message to Netroots Nation--seems like nothing so much as a declaration of Obama's own intransigence and unwillingness to face reality.  He may be much more sophisticated, in language at least, but he's just as much close-minded to unwanted input as Bush & Cheney were, and Gibbs' hippy-punching was intended to triple underscore that in neon red magic marker, even as he overly denied it.

The very fact that Gibbs is outraged by Bush/Obama comparisons shows how significant they are.  A stuck pig squeals. Like Bush before him, Obama would rather fail spectacularly on a global scale than admit his failures so far and take fundamental corrective action.

Of course it's not just progressives that Obama is disappointing, but it's convenient to pretend it is so.  However, the unemployment rate, the mortgage foreclosure rate, and the state-and-local government layoff-and-shutdown rate are all far too high for that to be true. And it's not just "the professional left" that's being ignored.  It's just about everyone outside of K-Street, including veterans.

Larry Lessig in particular, weighed in on this penultimate point:

It's certainly not fair to criticize Obama for not being a Lefty. He wasn't ever a Lefty. He didn't promise to be a Lefty. And there's no reason to expect that he would ever become a Lefty.

But Lefties (like me) who criticize Obama are not criticizing him for failing our Lefty test. Our criticism is that Obama is failing the Obama test: that he is not delivering the presidency that he promised.

When Candidate Obama took on Hilary Clinton, he was quite clear about what he thought about the way Washington works. And he was quite clear about why he was running for President. As he said:

    [U]nless we're willing to challenge the broken system in Washington, and stop letting lobbyists use their clout to get their way, nothing else is going to change. And the reason I'm running for president is to challenge that system.

Read it again: "The reason I am running for president is to challenge that system."

....

Obama's strategy as president has not been to "change the way Washington works." Rather, he has pushed reforms in the same old way, with the same old games.

Lessig does a masterful job of pounding this simple point home.  But I'd be deeply remiss not to further connect Lessig's point with one made by Chris as culminating point of his post-2004 elction analysis ("Eureka! Or How To Break the Republican Majority Coalition"):  The key to building an enduring progressive coalition is to unite self-identified liberals with self-identified reformers, whose primary concerns lie with opening up government and making it more accountable.  And this is Obama's greatest failure: a failure to deliver on the actual substance of non-partisan openness and good government.

In his "Eureka!" diary, Chris wrote:

Paul Rosenberg :: Why Gibbs' hippy-punching incident is pivotal, not trivial
I believe it is possible to break the majority Republican coalition, which is primarily an ideological coalition of conservatives against liberals, and create a majority Democratic coalition that will last for at least two or three decades, by liberalizing / progressivizing the 10-15% of the population that is currently primarily reform minded and non-ideological (and thus has a strong tendency to support major third-party efforts). While it is currently non-ideological, this segment of the population, which has existed in large numbers since at least the 1880's, has an outlook on politics that is far more closely allied with liberalism than conservatism because of its emphasis on reform. It is, to put it one way, latently liberal. This segment of the electorate can be swung toward the liberal camp, thus breaking the Republican majority coalition, if the pragmatic, non-dogmatic, reformer, anti-status quo, entrepreneurial aspects of liberalism are foregrounded and turned into a national narrative and platform. Pulling this off will also require dismantling the Great Backlash narrative of oppressive liberal elites, and replacing it with a narrative about conservatism being a force that relies on pure theory, faith-based worldviews, and that supports status-quo institutions such as corporations and the media.

Ironically, I once thought that Obama's problem was that he was too much this sort of reformer, as opposed to having an economic populist sensibility.  And, indeed, I repeatedly pointed out how pairing Obama with John Edwards--the strongest candidate for articulating an economic populist theme--produced far the strongest Democratic ticket in 2008, a ticket that could have conceivably won another five states or so.

Today, while it's as clear as ever that Obama lacks credibility as an economic populist, the real news is that he also lacks credibility as good government reformer as well, despite his ability to talk a truly great game on the campaign trail.

Here's a bit more of how Lessig spelled it out, recalling Obama's campaign rhetoric:

Or again:
    [I]f we do not change our politics -- if we do not fundamentally change the way Washington works -- then the problems we've been talking about for the last generation will be the same ones that haunt us for generations to come.

Or again:
    But let me be clear -- this isn't just about ending the failed policies of the Bush years; it's about ending the failed system in Washington that produces those policies. For far too long, through both Democratic and Republican administrations, Washington has allowed Wall Street to use lobbyists and campaign contributions to rig the system and get its way, no matter what it costs ordinary Americans.

Or again, as he asked, again and again:
    Do we continue to allow lobbyists to veto our progress? Or do we finally put our national interests ahead of the special interests and address the concerns people feel over their jobs, their health care and their children's future?

Or again, as he explained:
    We are up against the belief that it's OK for lobbyists to dominate our government -- that they are just part of the system in Washington. But we know that the undue influence of lobbyists is part of the problem, and this election is our chance to say that we're not going to let them stand in our way anymore.

Or perhaps put best:
    We need to challenge the system... And if we're not willing to take up that fight, then real change -- change that will make a lasting difference in the lives of ordinary Americans -- will keep getting blocked by the defenders of the status quo.

While it's no doubt true that Obama deliberately encouraged a wide range of people to read their hopes into him and his broad-bore promise of "hope" and "change", the examples Lessig cites are clearly typical of themes Obama returned to again and again and again.  If he was deliberately vague on a wide range of substantive issues  (notwithstanding web-only position papers he could easily walk away from), he repeatedly returned to this promise of sweeping change and unprecedented openness at the proceedural level. This was the substance of his campaign:  The promise of opening government up to the people.  And that is the promise that has been broken, more than anything else.

It's the promise that was broken when single-payer advocates were excluded from the health care debate, and had to get arrested on TV in order to break through the barriers that Obama had helped construct to keep them out.

It's the promise that was broken when activists pushed to have war crimes investigations of the Bush Administration, and Obama ignored them, despite the priority given in his own issue-selection process.  

It's the promise that was broken when Wall Street insiders were given exclusive control over "fixing" the mess that they and their friends had created--and left the rest of America behind.

It's the promise that was broken when parents and educators were excluded from the corporate-oriented "Race to the Top" educational lottery system was used to force money-starved states to fall into lockstep with a neoliberal educational agenda that was nowhere to be found in Obama's campaign speeches.

It's the promise that was broken when veterans who campaigned prominently for Obama grew increasingly frustrated with being frozen out, as the same old unresponsive establishment remained firmly in place.

As Lessig's critique starts to sink in, hopefully progressives will press harder and harder on Obama's failure on this front--not to embarass or humiliate him, but to continue the work of building the coalition that Chris pointed to nearly six years ago, because that coalition of potentiality is what really won the 2008 election, and it's up to us to keep that potential alive, and find ways to manifest it, regardless of how its promise is betrayed and obscured by Obama and Gibbs.

In the long run, Gibbs' fit of hippy-punching may well turn out to be a turning point, the point at which the Obama spell was broken, and people began to reconnect with the emerging promise of a liberal/reform coalition that truly can lead us to a renewal of the promise of America.


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I've been picking nits all day, (4.00 / 3)
but this one is pretty much unassailable.  

Well, I hope so.... (4.00 / 5)
So far, though, there's a good bit of evidence that even in state and local party organizations, the fear of being beaten down by the right-wing crazy surge has produced a circling of the wagons. Message control (otherwise known as propaganda) is gradually driving out the decision making processes which -- one would think -- should decide what we're trying to communicate in the first place.

Here in AZ, where the SB 1070 hysteria has everyone running scared, I'm seeing more and more of a kind of smiling Stalinism taking hold. Anything divisive is now openly frowned upon, and the people in charge, whatever their other virtues, are implacable about wanting to know what you're going to say before you say it, so that they can stop anything damaging from leaking out.

If you look at this as a basis for choosing of how much energy to devote to issues inside the party, and how much to devote to issues outside the party -- as I usually do -- then it's clearly not a good time to waste much energy on the party. People who think that a winning combination consists of silence on controversial issues coupled with lots and lots of focus groups, targeted advertising and unified talking points are now firmly in charge of everything. (I said to one of them at the State Meeting on Saturday: Even if you're successful, especially if you're successful, all this is going to mean is that Rahm Emanuel will have a veto over policy decisions even when he isn't in charge of making the policy itself, just like Karl Rove before him. The answer was So?)

These folks can't be reasoned with any more than you can reason with Newt Gingrich. Until they fail, and fail spectacularly, I fear there'll be no getting through to them at all.


This Is How The Terrorists Win (4.00 / 10)
The terrorists scare the Republicans.

The Republicans scare the Democrats.

And everyone abandons reason in favor of fear.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
The Republicans ARE terrorists (0.00 / 0)
there.  I said it.

[ Parent ]
then so is Ben Nelson (4.00 / 3)
the quicker we all realize that conservative thought in general (as opposed to only when employed by people whose name is followed by an "R") the quicker a coalition of reasonable people will be able to redirect the national conversation toward solving the fundamental problems (capitalism, jingoism, imperialism) that have put us in the fix we're in

either that or they'll be able to identify us and deport us en masse...I'll take either tbqh


[ Parent ]
i agree (0.00 / 0)
sometimes i need to vent my frustation that the far right has captured the republican party, and the centre right still holds sway in the democratic party.

even though the trend line is in the right direction, or at least a better direction, now (i hope).


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" Until they fail, and fail spectacularly," (4.00 / 4)
The path though failure of the badly organized center -left coalition is filled with bodies of millions of dead.

The direction, post-failure, is one hell of a lot more difficult to choose, difficult to control and has many multiples of the risk-factor that we face now.

Slashdot.org has a running joke about ill thought out, or amazingly partially-thought-out "planning" that fills their site, and is exemplified by the dot com bubble and crash. For example:

"  ...fill in the missing piece of my business plan that I've been working on for years: 1. collect poopy diapers 2. ??? 3. Profit!"

"Until somebody figures out what the ????? is supposed to be between "1) Space Travel" and "3) PROFIT!", we aren't going anywhere."


"1. Move them all into CLOUD computing 2. ??? 3. Profit!!  I believe #2 is "pray", unless you're a 'cloud host' and then.."

"It's supposed to be 1. Turning 2D Sprites Into Pixel Beads For Fun 2. ???????? 3. Profit.."

"writes: on Wednesday March 31, @12:08PM (#31688902). 1) New rule: "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously." 2) ... 3) Profit! ..."

I sure wish all the people whose utopian, ahistorical, evidence-lacking, plan-lacking and far too smug self satisfaction with catastrophe, would provide something more than "hope" in the gleeful anticipation and prescription for this effort to "fail spectacularly"

--

The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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Generic Genius Planning (4.00 / 1)
We can do better!

Thus:

    (1) Whatever.
    (2) Sell high-end proprietary shares with non-disclosure agreement.
    (3) Profit!

It worked so well for Wall Street!

And the dot-comsters!

And the South Sea Bubble!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Mischaracterization? (4.00 / 4)
I sure wish all the people whose utopian, ahistorical, evidence-lacking, plan-lacking and far too smug self satisfaction with catastrophe, would provide something more than "hope" in the gleeful anticipation and prescription for this effort to "fail spectacularly"

As Travis Bickle once remarked, are you talkin' to me? I sure hope not, because your diatribe doesn't describe my perspective at all. I'm not a Leninist, and chaos and catastrophe are the last things that I want. I'm not at all ego-invested in being right, especially when being right is a synonym for being insensitive to the suffering of others.

Still, I ask you: How would you dissuade these very smart people in the Democratic Party from believing that all we need is smarter ways to manipulate people, and that only they can supply them? When someone is so deeply invested in outsmarting himself, it's sometimes better to find another way to speak to people about how you see things, and let events take care of the propagandists and advertising shysters whose minds are so fine that no idea can violate them.

That, HoP, was my real point. My only point.


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Really. (4.00 / 1)
Maybe I followed your back and forth with Adnoto for too long... and, tend to oversubscribe to the idea that the likelihood that you've written something similar here is high...

But, I'd be inclined to argue that anyone who accuses you of fomenting spectacular outcomes of the chaos and catastrophe type ain't been reading you very closely.

If I have any overarching impression of your position it would be that you're incredulous that the Democrats seem unaware that their current trajectory has the potential to do precisely what HouseofProgress most fears.  Ie; set fire to the house with everyone trapped inside.


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Two steps forward, one step back.... (0.00 / 0)
Yeah, it's odd what choosing the wrong adverb will do to your argument. If I had said until they fail, and fail convincingly, (or irretrievably, or in a way that can't be spun as success) I probably wouldn't have had to explain myself.

But that's what's good about the blog format, right? You can go back and explain, add nuance, etc., on those occasions when anyone is interested enough to challenge what you're laying down.


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I see it too often, I find it hard not see it here. (4.00 / 1)
I can read your point as you say it was meant to be seen, but I find the sentiment, the joy, the hope that we will somehow benefit from a completely unrestricted republican party, a completely unrestricted corporate plutocracy, a completely unrestricted racist crazy clatch, with their guns and anger and god on their side, no longer even pretending to support democracy, as they have started to do, no longer even pretending to care about the health or welfare of the citizens they share a continent with, somehow after the fall of democracy, and make no mistake, they arent planning to win no elections after regaining power, at least no elections that don't match Afghanistan's last stolen election, W's, and Mexico's. Yeah I think we have a slim, hard to navigate, low chance of success protecting civilization.

And I am sick and tired of people crossing their fingers, as if chaos will help.

If that wasn't your point, it wasn't the opposite of it either.

I want what paul wants in his last paragraph:

hopefully progressives will press harder and harder on Obama's failure on this front--not to embarass or humiliate him, but to continue the work of building the coalition that Chris pointed to nearly six years ago, because that coalition of potentiality is what really won the 2008 election, and it's up to us to keep that potential alive, and find ways to manifest it,
And if we don't start doing the later, while not loosing the Presidency, we wont just be loosing an election, or even a country.

Pardon me if I am getting a little thin skinned. We have work to do building that coalition, work to do making the point of how little time we have, work to do organizing voters, work to do raising resources.

Being correct about needs to be done, and pointing at who should do it. Obama isn't the saviour, hell he isn't even a very good prophet, so we need to find ways beyond, let it all fall apart, and the pieces will pick themselves up.

It is the cold comfort of the accident victim saying she wasn't driving to the medics, as she slips into a coma.

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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Sez you (4.00 / 1)
And I am sick and tired of people crossing their fingers, as if chaos will help.

If that wasn't your point, it wasn't the opposite of it either.

No, it wasn't. It was a different point altogether, and I'm afraid you missed it. That's fine, but there's really no reason for me defend a position I didn't take. You may have an argument here, HoP, but not with me.


[ Parent ]
I have agreed with you too many times to think you dont know what needs doing (4.00 / 2)
without needing a road map.

We have to build. We have set to, as we have just found our tools, and we can see the possibility of saving many. I know so many know this. I will try to remember to encourage and not feel so ready to take umbrage so quickly.

Nothing is possible unless we set to, to do the things that we hoped others could do.

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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Can't argue with this (0.00 / 0)
chaos and catastrophe are the last things that I want.

At the same time, one should not fear chaos. Think of it like a forest fire, clearing the deadwood.  You don't necessarily hope for the flames - but when its over, fresh sprouts flourish.

 

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
That's not specific to Slashdot (0.00 / 0)
I'm not sure if you realize it, but that is a South Park reference.  Amusingly, that comes from an episode in which the big Starbucks-like corporation is a victor over the local merchant.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

[ Parent ]
Shorter Lessig (0.00 / 0)
Change You Can Believe In!

Pre-written: "In 18 months (Obama has) frittered away both ends of the promise..."

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


Well, I guess now the only defense (4.00 / 3)
non-critical Obama supporters have is, "Hey, he promised hope, not action, so STFU".

And now that he's crushed "hope" for so many people and "change" got left for dead long ago, sadly, here's two more words that most definitely are not associated with President Obama: political courage.


What struck me... (4.00 / 4)

  ...was how defensive Gibbs' rant was.

  He knows the "left" was correct. He knows Krugman and others warned the administration about the consequences of a weak, GOP-appeasing approach. He knows.

  So I wonder if he's just intentionally trying to depress turnout (after all, publicly crapping on the base is the best way to do that). Does the Obama admin want to lose the House so they won't have to deal with Pelosi embarrassing them with pesky Democratic legislative accomplishments they have to do their best to tamp down?

 A GOP Congress, after all, gives Obama the perfect excuse to move right.

 Is the Dem leadership taking a dive?  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


I Don't Think They Know What They Want (4.00 / 4)
Obama has always wanted the impossible (even while accusing others of not being "pragmatic"), his expectations have never been realistic.  (A "grand bargain" with grifters and maniacs?  Why not cut a unicorn in on the deal?)

So that makes it particularly hard to figure out what he's really up to.  Even he may not really know for sure.  And his administration as a corporate whole?  Even much less likely.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Yup… (4.00 / 1)
...this sounds dead-on. Seen through this lens, the President seems pretty delusional. I mean, if you really believe that bipartisanship was possible after Bush [that the opposition hoisted Sarah Palin should've put that notion to bed, but quick], you'd probably think that a bunch of over-ambitious Clintonite climbers would help you run the government against type. Talk about being in over your head...

"This ain't for the underground. This here is for the sun." -Saul Williams

[ Parent ]
Exactly. (0.00 / 0)
"Pragmatism" too often is- though it shouldn't be- an excuse for content-free politics.

[ Parent ]
The downside to this approach is the likely (4.00 / 2)
impeachment proceedings that will start.

My blog  

[ Parent ]
Uh-Oh, Spaghetti-os! (0.00 / 0)
[Homer Voice:] "Do'h!"

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
Oh, no... (4.00 / 3)

  ...all Obama has to do is play nice with them in a nice bipartisan way and they'd never do that.

   

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


[ Parent ]
at this stage, would President Biden be any different/worse? (4.00 / 1)
he'd at least be up front about how much he hates social programs rather than hemming and hawing through everything

[ Parent ]
No, they won't... (4.00 / 1)
Why people think Republicans are now going to impeach every Democratic President until the end of time is beyond me.  It actually didn't help them politically, which is why Dems picked up seats in '98 instead lost them, despite the six year itch.

[ Parent ]
Because It's Their Nature (0.00 / 0)
They're just like the scorpion in the story in The Crying Game.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Thanks!!! (0.00 / 0)
Certainly this is one of the best posts I've seen in OpenLeft in a long, long time.

Frankly its a real public service - those of us that have been upset with Obama for a while knew that there was a real problem but putting our finger on a boiled down version is very helpful.  While I expect the Obama apologists will "yes but" each of the points listed above they really make up a damming case against Obama.


I frankly don't know why anyone bought the (0.00 / 0)
posture.  It's the same thing Bill Bradley was selling in '00, or Gary Hart before him.  Changing the system is just a posture.  

If there was ever a time (4.00 / 4)
when making some significant changes to the "system" was possible, it was at the beginning of 2009.  

But I no longer believe there was any intent to change the system, just to be at the top of it.


[ Parent ]
And that (4.00 / 1)
Is a tragedy. We'll all be paying dearly for that missed opportunity. I think this realization is why disappointment with Obama can be so bitter.  

[ Parent ]
Really? Because I thought (0.00 / 0)
the time was ripe for changes to specific policies, not "changing the way Washington works", or "moving beyong the tired debates of the Right and the Left", which is exactly the same stance Bill Bradley peddled.

[ Parent ]
Even IF Obama ... (0.00 / 0)
...  is trying to destroy the country, where are the damned Dems to stop giving him the vote? If the R's can obstruct (as they do well), why can't the Dems?

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