Nomination At A Glance, Now With Thirteen Candidates

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 13:30


There will be a new set of ARG early state polls released as early as tomorrow, and I will provide a more complete update of the charts, including numbers in South Carolina, Nevada, Michigan and Florida, when those ARG numbers are released. Before then, with Iowa finally setting a date, accurate cash on hand figures available, and a range of new polls, I wanted to get a new chart out there at least before tomorrow’s debate. I have also now included all thirteen “serious” candidates in the charts, and will do so for the remainder of the primaries. And no, Duncan Hunter, Mike Gravel, and Tom Tancredo don’t count (although I wish Tancredo did, considering how his hateful messages help send droves of new voters into the Democratic camp. UPDATE: Tancredo has now announced his retirement from the House to focus on his Presidential campaign. I'll add him in the mid-week update).

All State Polls Taken October 1st through October 29th
Democratic Nomination, At a Glance
State Est. Date # Polls Clinton Obama Edwards Richardson Biden Kucinich Dodd
Net Avail Cash Sep 30 Q3 $32.2M $30.5M $23.4M* $5.1M $0.8M $0.3M $2.4M
Iowa Jan 03 4 29.8% 23.3% 21.3% 7.8% 5.0% 1.3% 1.3%
New Hampshire Jan 08 (?) 3 41.3% 21.7% 13.3% 7.0% 2.3% 4.3% 2.0%
National Feb 05 NA 46.9% 20.2% 12.0% 2.9% 2.0% 1.2% 0.5%

* = Includes public funds. Significant spending limits apply to Edwards’s remaining cash

Clinton’s lead continues to grow, although outside of national polls it is certainly not so massive as the national narrative might indicate. This reifies my belief that, eventually, the “Clinton is inevitable” narrative will come back to hurt her campaign. The campaign knows the potential danger of this narrative, too, and they are fighting against it. Once you are expected to be crushing everyone else, there is very little that you can do to beat expectations. Still, for anyone to have any chance of winning the nomination except for her, those candidates must defeat her in Iowa. Anyone Clinton finishes ahead of in Iowa is finished.

Republican Nomination, At a Glance
State Est. Date # Polls Romney Giuliani Thompson McCain Hukabee Paul
Net Avail Cash Sep 30 Q3 $9.2M $11.4M $6.4M -$0.1M $0.6M $5.4M
Iowa Jan 03 5 28.2% 13.2% 14.2% 6.8% 13.6% 3.2%
New Hampshire Jan 08 (?) 4 28.8% 20.5% 7.3% 16.3% 8.0% 4.3%
South Carolina Jan 19 1 16.0% 16.0% 21.0% 16.0% 11.0% 3.0%
National Feb 05 NA 11.5% 29.1% 15.6% 12.4% 6.1% 1.8%

What a free-for-all. Giuliani is rising nationally, and staying competitive in both New Hampshire and South Carolina, but has fallen to fourth in Iowa. Thompson is falling nationally and has dropped to fifth in New Hampshire (with Ron Paul breathing down his neck), but has moved into second in Iowa and still leads in South Carolina. McCain’s national and Iowa collapse continue full speed ahead, but he is making a comeback in New Hampshire and is still in the game in South Carolina. Huckabee continues to rise across the board, despite a near total lack of funds. And hey, Ron Paul is starting to actually register in these early state polls. In fact, he is even threatening to start campaigning in New Hampshire.

Romney stays ahead of the pack because of his Iowa and New Hampshire strength. However, should he falter either of those two early states, get ready for a real mess. I wish the Demorcatic horserace was half this exciting.

Early state polls can be found here and here. Net available cash means cash on hand for the primaries minus debts owed by the campaigns (info here and here). The primary calendar is still not fixed for Democrats in South Carolina, or for both parties in New Hampshire. Nomination at a glance archives can be found here.
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GOP Side (0.00 / 0)
Two notes:

1.  If Huckabee pulls a Robertson and comes in 2nd in Iowa, might that hurt Thompson so much that Huckabee could end up winning SC? 

2.  How does Giuliani make the case for "nothing matters until 2/3"?


as per #2 (0.00 / 0)
I don't think it is possible for Giuliani.

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Oops: 2/5 (0.00 / 0)
Still, he's not winning Iowa, and I can't see him passing Romney and McCain in New Hampshire.  So what's Rudy's plan, other than "hope Romney doesn't win both IA and NH"?

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I don't think there is one (0.00 / 0)
He needs a clusterfuck in the early states to save him for 2/5. Now, that could happen, but it means he doesn't control his own destiny, so to speak.

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Two options (0.00 / 0)
Right now, Giuliani's not in a position to win any of the three early states (I don't know how he's doing in the other January ones). If polling remains like that, he has two outs: the first is that Romney's campaign implodes, and the second (and rather more likely) is that he takes second in Iowa and NH whilst Thompson does poorly enough that he loses in SC and nobody else comes out of nowhere.

If he doesn't win a state early on, it's difficult, but he could still pull it off provided it quickly becomes him vs Romeny.

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Romney, Tancredo (0.00 / 0)
Romney is surging, up about 3 points in both Iowa and New Hampshire from 25% to 28%.  This may be statistical noise but it seems significant.  He's a nasty, uber confident jerk (see his comments about both Giuliani and Obama in the last few days).  His nomination would definitely continue the nasty streak in Republican campaigns.

Tancredo, for some reason, has decided to retire from the House (announced today) and put maximum effort into his Presidential campaign.  This should weaken the anti-immigration movement by removing a prime spokesman.  He's 61 so he must be going somewhere.  Maybe Fox News?

Hillary continues to gradually pull away.  I think she's up another point in Iowa.  She's now spending as much on staff as Obama and will probably match him dollar for dollar on advertising in Iowa from here on out.


I'll add Tancredo (0.00 / 0)
In the update to come later in the week. This is a reversal from his earlier position where he suspended his Presidential campaign to focus on Congressional matters.

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Hillary pulling away. (0.00 / 0)
I don't think so. She is advertising for hiring staff her in DC for Iowa. i AM SURE THE PEOPLE IN dc GOING TO iOWA WILL REALLY HELP HER CAMPAIGN.

Lastr poll shows a tied race 29 to 27 Hillary over Obama. MOE; 5.5% uN-DECIDE 9 PTS.


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Republicans (0.00 / 0)
I think the Republican line-up is still in flux. Very few of them have defined themselves, because they're all fighting over the role marked 'One true conservative/Jesus-figure'. I think you'll see polls fluctuating fairly heavily from week to week and the last ones probably won't tally well with the actual results.

All six have the potential to play a role, although Paul is never going to win the nomination. The main question is how long they can stay in and what support they can preserve. Huckabee, for example, may get a big boost if he finishes in the top three in Iowa which he could try to use to beat expectations in NH then win SC. But if he ends up lower than fourth then his campaign is probably over and even in fourth it's unlikely he'll have the momentum to continue.

Giuliani probably doesn't have to win more than one of the early primaries and might even be able to get away with waiting until Mega Tuesday for his first victory. But if he finishes outside the top three anywhere or fails to beat expectations in a state then his support could crater.

McCain's best shot is probably a comeback in NH then riding the wave of good press. Thompson probably needs to pretend to be dead for the first fortnight of 2008, then appear from nowhere in SC. And Romney just has to try not to lose.

As for Paul, his big chance is probably New Hampshire's independents. The state's Democratic trend might mean that there'll be less of them voting in the Republican primary than previously but McCain and Giuliani are the only other candidates who could plausibly try and appeal there, and they haven't been trying to in general. If he could get a reasonably good showing there then he might be able to continue, acting as a spoiler all over the place but never appealing to hard-core Republicans.

Another issue is withdrawal: the 5 day gap between Iowa and NH should increase any bounce, but I have to wonder whether it's long enough to drive any candidates out. Without that crashing candidates may still manage to maintain just enough support to make predictions even more horribly complicated than they already are.

So I guess what I'm saying is that there's no way in hell I can make much of a prediction now, because any one of a dozen factors could completely change the situation. The tea leaves look very cloudy.

Although we should run a pool on it.

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