Corporatists-Versus-Grassroots Divide Now Defines Public Education Debate

by: David Sirota

Thu Dec 23, 2010 at 10:30


As TGeraghty noted, Education Week reports that New York University professor Diane Ravitch will receive the 2011 Daniel Patrick Moynihan Prize from the American Academy of Political and Social Science. She is being honored for her work on education - specifically, for her work debunking the increasingly shrill anti-public-education corporatism coming from elite media darlings like Michael Bloomberg, Michelle Rhee and Bill Gates.

I had the pleasure of talking to Ravitch recently on my AM760 radio show. You can listen to the interview here (it starts about a quarter of the way through). With Denver and its suburbs becoming ground-zero in the debate over whether to shut down public schools, charter-ize districts and ultimately move to vouchers, Ravitch has been a welcome national voice of sanity against an anti-public-school Limousine (Neo)liberal class and in defense of public education.

In a recent Washington Post interview, Ravitch made her case quite clearly:

David Sirota :: Corporatists-Versus-Grassroots Divide Now Defines Public Education Debate
I certainly don't like the status quo. I don't like the attacks on teachers, I don't like the attacks on the educators who work in our schools day in and day out, I don't like the phony solutions that are now put forward that won't improve our schools at all. I am not at all content with the quality of American education in general, and I have expressed my criticisms over many years, long before Bill Gates decided to make education his project. I think American children need not only testing in basic skills, but an education that includes the arts, literature, the sciences, history, geography, civics, foreign languages, economics, and physical education.

I don't hear any of the corporate reformers expressing concern about the way standardized testing narrows the curriculum, the way it rewards convergent thinking and punishes divergent thinking, the way it stamps out creativity and originality. I don't hear any of them worried that a generation will grow up ignorant of history and the workings of government...All I hear from them is a demand for higher test scores and a demand to tie teachers' evaluations to those test scores. That is not going to improve education.

We've seen the corporatist-versus-grassroots divide in so many different policy fights - and now education is no different. Ravitch is one of the lonely voices for community public education.

What's fascinating about the whole education debate is that the corporate "reformers" she talks about are, for the most part, the same people who don't want to have an honest discussion about taxes and budget resources. In general, they ask us to believe that we can test our way out of our education problems, without better funding our school system.

While it's certainly true that resources aren't the only problem, it's also true that they are a huge problem. You get what you pay for, as any undergraduate business major would tell you, and you'd think these corporatists would know that, considering their much-touted business experience. But they don't. What they want us to believe is that education is not a problem of resources - it's a problem of greedy unions, lazy teachers and poor standards.

That argument, of course, is self-serving. If you are a rich guy like Bill Gates, it's in your self interest to blame teachers and unions for education problems rather than talk about how you and your fellow billionaires should be paying more taxes to help build a better education system.

Diane Ravitch has been one of the few national voices making some of these points - and she's a big hero in what will likely be a huge policy fight in your town, your city, your state and your country very soon.


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It's kind of amazing (4.00 / 1)
but in almost every major issue this country faces it comes down to class warfare.

Climate change
Employment
Education
War (continuous warfare and uncontrollable military budgets)
Taxes
Health Care
Finance

It always comes down to the Wealthy and wannabe wealthy trying to profit at the expense of the working people.  

If only we could privatize one more element of society so that the rich could give us one more shitty option!

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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Yes & furthermore (0.00 / 0)
Yes & furthermore, it seems that the
Corporatists-Versus-Grassroots Divide
Defines every issue.

Peace!


Gates is a Competitor (4.00 / 1)
I was struck that Gates' questions for Ravitch were nothing more than attacks loaded with logical fallacies.  

"Does she like the status quo? Is she sticking up for decline? Does she really like 400-page [union] contracts? Does she think all those 'dropout factories' are lonely? If there's some other magic way to reduce the dropout rate, we're all ears."

1) False dichotomy - you're with me or you're for the status quo.
2) Ad hominum - she's sticking up for decline
3) Argument from ignorance - long contracts are intrinsically bad
4) Ad hominum - implying that Ravitch, an education expert, doesn't know the reality of poor schools
5)??? - Obviously he isn't all ears.  He just attacked her without listening.

His organization has made up its mind about how to proceed and he is past listening to objections.


All the more reason (4.00 / 2)
to prevent the accumulation of wealth.  Tycoons like Gates use it to wield power in their areas of incompetence.  Why shouldn't he be treated as just another guy with an opinion?

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Substance (0.00 / 0)
In reading Ravitch's book, (thanks to jeffbinnc for the education education) I was struck by how mixed the reformers' results were on the math and reading tests.  Despite very radical changes to the school all focused on improving these scores, the test results are pretty lame - uneven and inconsistent.

The cost is huge - the community, kids, parents, teachers, and administration are thrown into turmoil with enormous disruptive changes.  

Oh, and the kids stop learning squat about all other subjects.  Like history and civics.  I guess the reformers want employees, not citizens.


Obama trades public schools to venture philanthropists (0.00 / 0)
I suspect that private investment in public schools are Obama's bargaining chip with Gates, et al.
Obama called for the Oval Office meeting, which also included Gates' wife, Melinda, to discuss the Giving Pledge project, started by Buffett and Gates to encourage wealthy U.S. individuals and families to give most of their fortunes to charity, the administration official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

They also talked about U.S. economic competitiveness, including boosting investments in education, the official said.

The meeting with Gates and Buffett comes on the eve of Obama's summit with about 20 business leaders including General Electric Co. Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Immelt and Google Inc. Chairman and CEO Eric Schmidt to discuss issues related to economic growth including exports, regulation, the budget deficit. The U.S. education system also is on the agenda for that meeting.

http://gateskeepers.civiblog.o...

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As a retired educator (4.00 / 3)
I weep for the way the public has been duped into this blame the teacher game.  All it is, in my opinion, is a way for the corporatists to break yet another union, scapegoat the workers, and make education into a profit driven industry.

Diane Ravitch may be a lonely voice at the top, one of the few pro public education voices to be heard, but overall teachers like myself have been speaking to this issue for years, decades.  Many of us saw it coming when Reagan commissioned his phony "A Nation at Risk."  There are so many variables when it comes to testing humans.  Unlike widgets on a conveyor belts, children are machines. As well children are not raised in a vacuum.  The issues of the family, immediate and extended affect them as do things like illness, neighborhoods, income, nourishment of body, soul and mind.

Having taught in both high end  and low end ((economically speaking) there are difference from the moment a child begins school. In some schools, 90% of kindergarten students could come to school already knowing the alphabet (letter names and sounds), left to right sequence, how to write their names and know their address.  In another school it is the opposite with 90% not even knowing the names of letters, let alone the sounds.

And yet in three years all of those children will be assessed on the same test, asked to compete.  In a sense, we are asking one group of children to be in a race, yet their starting position is one yards or so behind those they are racing against.  When they do not at least finish the race close to their competitors we label them and their coaches as failures, take away all the things we know from research that enhances life and learning (the arts, music, even recess) in order for them to do better in each yearly race.

Ignoring the actual physical fact that children grow and learn at variable rates even in the same family, we somehow still expect that ALL children in the third grade should test at some arbitrary level.

I was listening to Michelle Rhee for a few minutes on some show the other day (and then had to turn it off as my bp increased) I wondered.  How is it that this women who taught a few short years in the classroom, is now considered some expert on education.  I spent thirty years in the classroom, several years as a the media educator with an MA in education technology, another forty credits in counseling, another forty in various arena from the arts to reading/language to enhance my own knowledge.  Yet this barely experienced ex-teacher in the work of educating (as opposed to the coursework) is given the credence that surely belongs to those who actually spent a lifetime teaching.   Ms. Rhee is a classic example of the Peter Principle.  

These corporatists see dollar signs on the heads of students.   I taught for over three decades in Colorado Springs and for a while we were the "ground zero" target for the right wing attempts to shut down "public education".  We thwarted their efforts by recalling the school board that stealthily worked their way on to the board in the late 90s.   Like Nordquist, they were of the anti government mentality of destroying public education.  All those children present a plethora of financial gain possibilities. Their desire was to insure failure in order to convince the public that they should invest in charter and/or private schools where the evil teacher unions could not be.  Sadly, many people, even on the left, have bought the meme.  

There is no magic when it comes to educating children.  It is hard but good teachers make it look easy.  Most people do not see what goes on behind the scenes for good teaching.  Yes there are mediocre teachers.  And in fact there are bad teachers.  But there are bad police officers, firefighters, doctors, lawyers, journalists, bankers, etc.  Teachers run the spectrum the same as any profession.

And oh yea, youth does not make one better.  Ms. Rhee was obnoxiously pushing the "old teachers" are not good nonsense.  I had to turn her off.  I was always a good teacher. I know that about myself.  It was intuitive for me.  But I was a much better teacher at age 40 than I was at age 22.  Of course I got more money for my experience, for the many classes I took and degrees I earned.  In teaching, experience matters, as it does in many jobs.  
But we now live in a society where discarding older workers is now an acceptable trend for ONE REASON.  MONEY.  Younger workers are cheaper.  But that cannot be said. It's not politically acceptable.  However, people like Rhee can say it because she a megaphone for the rich and powerful whose MO for high profit has been low labor costs to insure upper management profit and salaries.  It's happened in all industries. Why not education?  Corporates are foaming at the mouth at the profits they can potentially make by scamming the public with their "magical" ways to educate by destroying the evil teachers' unions.  


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