Nomination At A Glance, October 30th

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 13:30


The new ARG polls are out, one day earlier than I expected. ARG, 10/26-10/29, 600 responses, MoE 4, previous results 9/29

Democrats
Candidate IA, Oct IA, Sep NH, Oct NH, Sep SC, Oct SC, Sep
Clinton 32% 30% 40% 41% 41% 41%
Obama 22% 24% 22% 22% 19% 30%
Edwards 15% 19% 10% 10% 18% 7%
Richardson 7% 10% 5% 8% 1% 5%
Biden 5% 3% 4% 3% 6% 2%
Dodd 2% 1% 3% 2% 1% 1%
Kucinich 1% 1% 3% 2% 1% 1%
Unsure 16% 13% 13% 12% 13% 13%

Nothing particularly noticeable to report, except perhaps a pro-Edwards shift in South Carolina at the expense of Obama. While one poll isn’t enough to draw any conclusions, I’m going to guess that the McClurkin incident in South Carolina, which was at its peak when this took place, might be a factor there. But it will require more polls to confirm, and ARG always tends to be a little wacky.

Republicans
Candidate IA, Oct IA, Sep NH, Oct NH, Sep SC, Oct SC, Sep
Romney 27% 22% 30% 24% 29% 26%
Giuliani 16% 21% 23% 20% 23% 23%
McCain 14% 11% 17% 20% 13% 15%
Huckabee 19% 4% 7% 3% 5% 1%
Thompson 8% 16% 5% 8% 10% 10%
Paul 1% 2% 1% 3% 4% 2%
Other 2% 11% 2% 10% 3% 10%
Unsure 13% 13% 15% 12% 13% 13%

Notice the collapse of “other” in the Republican side, along with the rise of Huckabee. I think Huckabee’s upward swing seems to have come mainly from Gingrich and Brownback supporters. Huckabee is certainly a force to be reckoned with now.

In the overall nomination at a glance tables, I had considered adding poll average for Michigan, Nevada, Florida and Democrats in South Carolina. However, with so few polls from those states, not to mention a primary calendar that remains in flux, in the end I decided against it. Results in those states will be heavily scrambled by Iowa and New Hampshire anyway.

All State Polls Taken October 1st through October 29th
Democratic Nomination, At a Glance
State Est. Date # Polls Clinton Obama Edwards Richardson Biden Kucinich Dodd
Net Avail Cash Sep 30 Q3 $32.2M $30.5M $23.4M* $5.1M $0.8M $0.3M $2.4M
Iowa Jan 03 5 30.2% 23.0% 20.0% 7.6% 5.0% 1.2% 1.4%
New Hampshire Jan 08 (?) 4 41.0% 21.8% 12.5% 6.5% 2.8% 4.0% 2.0%
National Feb 05 NA 46.9% 20.2% 12.0% 2.9% 2.0% 1.2% 0.5%

* = Includes public funds. Significant spending limits apply to Edwards’s remaining cash

Let me be clear about a couple of things, since for some reason simply posting poll numbers means that you are in the back pocket of one campaign or the other these days. First, I think that a lack of competitiveness in the Democratic primary is a bad thing. It draws attention away from our candidates, and prevents a still divided party from having the serious discussion it needs. Instead, our divisions will fester, and progressives will once again probably end up on the short end of any deal in the coalition. Second, I am not anti-Clinton, though she is not my first choice. Let me rephrase: I don’t see why the reasons to be anti-Clinton don’t also apply to other candidates, and in some cases might in fact apply more to other candidates than they apply to her. Third, I am not happy that the potential Obama winning coalition doesn’t seem possible anymore, since that coalition is the one progressives need to create a progressive governing majority. However, it is not the responsibility of the coalition members to put together that coalition, especially in a primary. Maybe in a general election, but not in a primary. That responsibility rests with the candidate and campaign itself, not with the potential coalition members. If Obama does end up failing in this election, it will be his fault and the fault of the campaign, not the fault of the potential coalition members for failing to fall in line. I refuse to just ever “fall in line” during a primary. Doing something like that is a good way to create a dysfunctional movement. If we did that, would there ever be a time when we were allowed to speak our minds?

Republican Nomination, At a Glance
State Est. Date # Polls Romney Giuliani Hukabee Thompson McCain Paul
Net Avail Cash Sep 30 Q3 $9.2M $11.4M $0.6M $6.4M -$0.1M $5.4M
Iowa Jan 03 6 28.0% 13.7% 14.5% 13.2% 8.0% 2.8%
New Hampshire Jan 08 (?) 5 29.0% 21.0% 7.8% 6.8% 16.4% 3.6%
South Carolina Jan 19 2 22.5% 19.5% 8.0% 15.5% 14.5% 3.5%
National Feb 05 NA 11.7% 29.4% 6.4% 15.9% 12.3% 1.9%

With a newfound advantage in South Carolina, Romney is clearly in first place now, as he is currently set to run the table in the early states. Giuliani is second, because he is in at least second everywhere except Iowa, where he is a close third. After that, however, it gets very tricky to figure out. I have moved Huckabee all the way to third, mainly because the numbers and the trendlines indicate he is clearly be in second place in Iowa now, but also because he is still ahead of Thompson in New Hampshire. Overall, that leads me to believe that Huckabee will finish ahead of Thompson everywhere, if the voting started tomorrow. I have also kept Thompson ahead of McCain, because Thompson is ahead of McCain everywhere except for New Hampshire.

Unless Huckabee, or someone else, can stop Romney in Iowa, it looks very good for Romney. If Huckabee, or someone else, stops Romney in Iowa, it could be a free for all with Giuliani favored due to his February 5th advantage. Romney’s position reminds me of Dean’s: he looks good, but one slip up in the early states and it could be all over. He simply lacks the national strength to compete on February 5th unless he achieves momentum in the early states.

Early state polls can be found here and here. Net available cash means cash on hand for the primaries minus debts owed by the campaigns (info here and here). The primary calendar is still not fixed for Democrats in South Carolina, or for both parties in New Hampshire. Nomination at a glance archives can be found here.
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Anti-Clinton (0.00 / 0)
I guess this is what I don't understand: at the moment, which Democratic candidate do you hope wins the primary? If that's Clinton, then instead of simply not being anti-anti-Clinton, shouldn't you be pro-Clinton?

And if that's someone else, shouldn't you be pro-them?

Or are you saying that, taken as a whole, there's a perfect tie for first place in the Bowers-race?

I don't think Clinton would be completely awful, but I don't think she's the best choice at the moment. I'm really confused by the unwillingness of the small-head bloggers to endorse. An endorsement isn't just a proclamation of support, it's also a path to influence; look at Armando and Dodd. And while none of the candidates are perfect, are people as well-informed as leftbloggers really unable to choose a favorite?

I trust your opinion, I trust Matt's opinion, and Digby's and Josh Marshall's and a few others, and I'm just, well, baffled at the reticence. It feels, from the outside, like an emulation of the Beltway objectivity, like an attempt to stand above the fray as observers instead of wallowing in the mud like activists. I have too high an opinion of the people mentioned to think that's the case, but some clarity would be nice.

And, more positively, I always enjoy Nomination at a Glance. So thanks.


Isn't it possible to just be generally unhappy (0.00 / 0)
with most of them because they aren't differentiated enough, or are completely unable to win the nomination?

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I'd think that being generally unhappy with (0.00 / 0)
-most- of them would actually make endorsing easier.

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I'm not rying to stay objective (0.00 / 0)
Yes, I have preferences, and I want to take sides. Ihave also given money to both Edwards and Richardson, and appeared in a Richardson ad. I have voted for four different candidates at diffeent times in online straw polls. But I have been unable to find an argument that would allow me to feel certain enough about hitching myself to one wagon. I simply haven't been able to develop an argument that I find satisfactory for doing so.

I would call myself "partially undecided." I'm hardly alone on this. Most people are still partially undecided, even at Dailykos.

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Oh, I know you're not alone-- (0.00 / 0)
but you're an opinion -leader-, dammit, and I wanna be led!

I guess I understand. Maybe I'm just more comfortable than most with the lesser of two evils, which strikes me as a description of every decision anyone ever makes ...

And I don't mean to single you out. Far as I can tell, not a single one of the short-head bloggers have endorsed. I guess, given the overall strength of the field, I just find that odd, and more than a little dispiriting. Is the field weaker than I think, or is there a higher bar for 'certainty?'


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