SOTU warm-up & open thread

by: Paul Rosenberg

Tue Jan 25, 2011 at 19:30


First off, from Bob Herbert's excellent NYT Op-Ed, on Social Security, "Raising False Alarms" that begins with the line, "If there's a better government program than Social Security, I'd like to know what it is," there's this passage where CAF's Roger Hickey hits it out of the park:

"If we didn't have Social Security, we'd have to invent it right now," said Roger Hickey, co-director of the Campaign for America's Future. "It's perfectly suited to the terrible times we're going through. Hardly anyone has pensions anymore. People's private savings have taken a huge hit, and home prices have been hit hard. So the private savings that so many seniors and soon-to-be seniors have counted on have just been wiped out.

"Social Security is still there, and it's still paying out retirement benefits indexed to wages. It's the one part of the retirement stool that is working."

Too much common sense all in one place for Obama to grasp, or else he'd say the exact same thing himself tonight.


Second, from Public Citizen"GUIDE TO SOTU ON EXPORTS, JOBS":

Whether trade creates U.S. jobs depends on net export gains and reducing the trade deficit, which our past policies have not done: The question is how to expand trade in a way that creates U.S. jobs. Under past trade policies and pacts, the U.S. has served as the target market for imports from around the world. This has resulted in a huge trade deficit - $810 billion before the economic crisis-related collapse in trade and now again rising....

As Paul Krugman wrote in a recent column "Trade Does Not Equal Jobs: "If you want a trade policy that helps employment, it has to be a policy that induces other countries to run bigger deficits or smaller surpluses. A countervailing duty on Chinese exports would be job-creating; a deal with South Korea, not."

U.S. export growth under past Free Trade Agreements (FTAs) has been less than half that to countries with which we do not have FTAs: President Barack Obama is expected to urge passage of more FTAs as a means to boost exports and create U.S. jobs. However, Public Citizen examined the relative U.S. export growth with the 17 countries with which we have FTAs to date and found, counterintuitively, that the FTAs are associated with an export growth penalty. 3 U.S. exports to FTA partners grew only half as fast as exports to countries with which the United States does not have FTAs (0.8 percent vs. 2.2 percent on an annual average)....

The U.S. International Trade Commission's official study of the Korea FTA that Obama will emphasize concluded that the deal would increase the U.S. trade deficit: The USITC, the independent federal body that analyzes likely effects of trade pacts for Congress and the executive branch, found that the Korea FTA would result in an increase in the total U.S. goods trade deficit of between $308 million and $416 million. I


Third: More evidence that Obama's callous disregard for homeowners has not been a good idea, from Clusterstock:

The Housing Double Dip Is Accelerating

This chart is pretty clear. From the just-released Case-Shiller, it's clear that the year-over-year decline accelerated in November.

If you assume that housing has to be part of a recovery, this obviously isn't good.


What about you?  What are you thinking about, before, during and after?

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Movie Time (4.00 / 1)
This is Spinal Tap, as good a way of prepping for SoTU as any.

Or (0.00 / 0)
Freaks

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy... (4.00 / 1)


"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates

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So Quick With the Pathetic Lies (4.00 / 3)
Third paragraph, (including salutation):

It's no secret that those of us here tonight have had our differences over the last two years. The debates have been contentious; we have fought fiercely for our beliefs. And that's a good thing. That's what a robust democracy demands. That's what helps set us apart as a nation.

Sets us apart from our allies in the Middle East, perhaps.  But from the vast majority of the nations in the world?

What century, exactly, is Obama living in?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


thanks (4.00 / 5)
I always grit my teeth when Democrats act like no other country has general freedom, or allows debate, or where ordinary people can rise to high office.  From Republicans I expect it, but it's more irksome from the D's.  

Pandering is a venial sin but it isn't good to pander to the exceptionalism myth.


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Special! (4.00 / 3)
America is a unique, special snowflake!

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He counts "clean" coal, fission and natural gas as "clean energy." (4.00 / 2)
Fail.

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates

So far... (0.00 / 0)
so good. I haven't read the text yet, but he's hitting good ideological points for Democrats.

The MSM has tagged Independents the party of swing-voting 'centrism.' If Democrats no longer represent your liberal values, show America there is still a Left by registering for another left-aligned party.

Love the focus... (0.00 / 0)
on schools, teachers, etc. I was worried this would be indistinguishable from a Republican's SOTU. Maybe he's a Democrat after all.

The MSM has tagged Independents the party of swing-voting 'centrism.' If Democrats no longer represent your liberal values, show America there is still a Left by registering for another left-aligned party.

Lost me at... (0.00 / 0)
lower the corporate tax rate. Free trade agreements suck.

The MSM has tagged Independents the party of swing-voting 'centrism.' If Democrats no longer represent your liberal values, show America there is still a Left by registering for another left-aligned party.

re: fta (0.00 / 0)
from your previous post:

Maybe he's a Democrat after all.

good thing you used the word maybe


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Well, there really isn't any "there" there, is there? (4.00 / 2)
Same old talking points, pointing to the same policies, with the same rationalizations, so on and so forth.

He tried to comfort the "liberals" with his standard bromides and that will undoubtedly score highly in certain forums and amongst the illiterati in the press. But mostly this was his standard Neo-Liberal stump speech, designed to misinform as much as anything.

He's going to invest in R&D, which means corporate subsidies the taxpayers will most certainly fork over, even though they create more jobs off-shore than anywhere else.

I could go on, but mostly this speech was much ado about nothing. Same crap, different day.

Ultimately transparent, if only in it's hackishness.

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates


As I expected (4.00 / 3)
education was a big theme tonight. There were two major topics regarding the edu-theme: RTTT and support for teachers.

The fact that these two themes are inherently incompatible was never reconciled in this address.

Educators in general will not respond to competitive exhortations to reach the goals specified by RTTT. That's because those goals are false.

And Obama's call to uphold the professionalism of teachers rings hollow when he is doing almost everything he can to undo that with rhetoric about our "failed" education system.

Save Our Schools! March & National Call to Action, July 28-31, 2011 in Washington, DC: http://www.saveourschoolsmarch...


likes and dislikes (4.00 / 1)
Like the focus on education and teachers, but I would like to see him make higher ed affordable, as he said..oh yeah, make tuition tax credit permanent.

Immigration left open to debate; endorsed the Dream Act without naming it.

Like talk about infrastructure spending...oh, no, "attract private investment" to pay for it. Right, well, maybe.

Like talk about "tax code is rigged," but fix the loopholes so we can lower the corporate tax rate. More like - fix the loopholes so corps. don't have to use them anymore to maintain profits.

Don't know about trade agreements, but he seems to like Korea.

Freeze domestic spending, but focus on education -- how are we going to do that? Well, at least domestic spending freeze won't be "on the backs" of most neediest Americans. Does that include the unemployed?

Yeah, let them have the damn medical malpractice tort reform. It won't make much of a difference anyway.

Like strengthen SS; no mention of cuts, and no permanent extension of tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 percent - he said that before he gave them two more years.

Can't wait to see the Re-org of Fed gov't...Commerce handles salmon in salt water and Interior governs salmon in fresh water; it gets tricky when its smoked -- ha, ha, good one, Barry!

Oooh, he's going to veto any bill with earmarks.

"We do big things." Nice conclusion. I didn't know an American company provided the drilling that saved the Chilean miners.

I liked Lawrence O'Donnell's sum of the speech on MSNBC: It was a mathematical riddle that can't be solved, referring to spending problems and all the promises and flag waving.

Stopped listening to Republican response when Rep. Paul Ryan said: Limited gov and free enterprise made U.S. great, and watched He's not the Messiah video from Emocrat.



Dear Congressman Ryan (4.00 / 1)
Reagan hair does not look good on people your age.

Reagan hair does not look good when you have Alfred E. Newman ears.

Stop fetishizing the Great Prevaricator and get a stylist who won't make you look like an idiot.

PS-Your speech was a bad joke, too.  But you knew that.  And hey, at least you were true to your party's ideals.

At least you were willing to mention which party elected you.

At least you didn't consistently give the other party top billing. ("Republicans and Democrats" ad infinitum.)

Unlike some Fuck-Face I could mention...


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