"If the count is to be believed"? (0.00 / 0)

Yea, I'm sure they'd just make this up. It's not like they have to report it to the FEC and we'd find out they were lying and then they'd all look like idiots or something. Or that the source of the incoming donations can be accessed digitally and someone would surely notice a suspicious pattern with sites like this: www.ronpaulgraphs.com. I guess those millions of dollars that companies have been receiving from the campaign to pay for advertising may not be real either, right?

Come on guys, there's no way they could be making this up. It'd be too complicated of a scheme for them to pull it off and they wouldn't have a motivation for doing so.

Claiming that he may be lying is like something a Ron Paul supporter would do to another campaign. Do you really want to be like one of them?

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by: meekermariner @ Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 00:58:25 AM UTC

well... (0.00 / 0)

... they don't have to report to the FEC until 1/15 -- post IA/NH, at which point, if they're lying who cares?

Where is he spending the money?  TV?  Field?  Mailers?

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by: Adam B. @ Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:18:09 AM UTC

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Paul's goal isn't to win (0.00 / 0)

It's to create a movement and promote his ideology. Lying to everyone would eliminate any credibility and would be counter to his motives.

As for where they're spending the dough, they're about to do a $10 million national ad buy. I also talked to a Republican in South Carolina the other day and he said he's gotten six mailers from the Paul campaign (he said he'd only got one or two from everyone else).

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by: meekermariner @ Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:28:42 AM UTC

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Which is why I don't want him to succeed (0.00 / 0)

I don't want to have another generation of conservatives inspired by Ron Paul like the wave that was inspired by Goldwater.

It's probably beneficial to the progressive cause in the long run for Ron Paul to underperform expectations as much as possible.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

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by: Anthony de Jesus @ Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:38:34 AM UTC

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When all is said and done (0.00 / 0)

he's gonna haul in around $6 million for the day.  While I don't think it's time we take him seriously as far as being a contender for the nomination, I do think it's time people stopped saying their campaign's supporters are a bunch of basement bloggers and spambots.

A recent poll out of SC has Paul at 11% and he'll likely crack double digits in NH as well.  I think there's a lot to be learned from their campaign and fundraising.

Netroots for Gore

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by: NYPopulist @ Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 01:22:19 AM UTC

The goal was $10 Million (0.00 / 0)

Interestingly, the original goal on TeaParty07.com was to raise $10 million today. Obviously $5.5 million is nothing to laugh at, but I find it interesting that the grassroots Paul supporters who set the original goal were so optimistic (being on Sunday may have been a problem).

I actually think Obama could raise $10 million in a single day if the stars align properly. I'm thinking Martin Luther King Day (the 21st) or MLK's real birthday (the 15th, a workday), which is after NH but before what could be a critical SC contest. That would have to assume that by then it's a two-horse race between Obama and Clinton. So if Obama narrowly wins Iowa, and Clinton narrowly wins NH, then Obama becomes the clear anti-Hillary and a progressive coalition (with the Netroots) may coalesce around him.

Leftmost Bit

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by: Luigi Montanez @ Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 01:48:25 AM UTC

I saw a bunch of these guys (4.00 / 1)

out in Santa Monica (where they threw the tea into the sea, and then retrieved it in an environmentally friendly 21st century manner).  One of them was in a three-cornered hat and colonial outfit.  I have to say that, without having too much interaction with them, the sense I got was that it was a group of young assholes.  I'm trying to use that as a technical term, actually; they seemed like the kind of people you talk to about politics but who don't actually know what they're talking about, and their signage ("Freedom!  Peace!  Platitude!") reflected that, too.  They have a new T-shirt with the Ron Paul logo in the fashion of the POW-MIA logo.  How is that in any way appropriate?

Insert shameless blog promotion here.

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by: dday @ Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 03:40:59 AM UTC

Substance? (0.00 / 0)

I would like to, in  friendly way hopefully, describe to you how I read your comment.

It looks like an establishment figure complaining that an upstart movement has poor style and no sense propriety.

Would you be exhale a pleasing sigh if those accursed kids would finally remove themselves from your front lawn?

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by: D'arby Salt @ Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 17:00:06 PM UTC

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