Nomination At A Glance: The Fall of South Carolina

by: Chris Bowers

Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 18:06


During 2007, South Carolina ranked behind only Iowa and New Hampshire in terms of candidate visits and campaign spending. However, it now seems that both Michigan and Nevada have surpassed South Carolina in terms of importance to the campaign. On the Republican side, a Romney win in Michigan probably means that McCain skips South Carolina to focus on what should be a safe win in Nevada. With Romney and Giuliani already pulling out of South Carolina, if McCain pulls out too, it would deny Huckabee virtually any benefit from winning the state. then again, if McCain wins Michigan, he then has a very realistic chance of knocking out Romney and mortally wounding Huckabee by winning South Carolina, thus cementing his frontrunner status. As such, Michigan has become more pivotal than South Carolina for Republicans.

On the Democratic side, Clinton seems to be skipping South Carolina altogether, considering that she hasn’t visited the state since November 27th (and before that, since October 29th). (stupid Washington Post campaign tracker) Clinton actually now has more events in Nevada than she does in South Carolina. Since South Carolina alone probably won’t be enough for Obama to catch Clinton nationally, the Nevada caucuses could be the turning point in the campaign, determining whether Clinton heads into February 5th as the favorite, or whether Obama and Clinton are roughly tied before the quasi-national primary. And so, Nevada has surpassed South Carolina in importance on the Democratic side as well.

No rest for the weary. January 15th and January 19th now loom as just as important as Iowa and New Hampshire once were. Here are today’s numbers:

Democratic Nomination, At A Glance
Contest Date Delegates # of Polls Clinton Obama Edwards Kucinich
P. Delegates Aug 25 2,209 2 24 25 18 0
U. Delegates Aug 25 2,209 NA 183 74 30 2
Michigan Jan 15 0 / 128 4 54.3% 0.0% 0.0% 2.8%
Nevada Jan 19 25 0 ?? ?? ?? ??
South Carolina Jan 26 45 3 31.0% 44.0% 15.3% 2.7%
Florida Jan 29 0 / 185 3 43.8% 30.7% 13.1% 2.2%
National Feb 05 1,688 3 40.7% 35.0% 14.7% 2.0%

Republican Nomination, At A Glance
Contest Date Delegates # of Polls McCain Huckabee Romney Giuliani Thompson Paul
Delegates Sep 01 1,259 3 10 21 30 1 6 2
Michigan Jan 15 30 / 60 6 25.3% 16.0% 26.2% 5.7% 5.3% 6.3%
Nevada Jan 19 34 0 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
South Carolina Jan 19 24 / 47 4 22.5% 27.8% 16.5% 9.3% 7.0% 5.0%
Louisiana Jan 22 21 / 47 0 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
Florida Jan 29 57 / 114 2 21.5% 18.5% 15.8% 20.2% 9.4% 4.8%
Maine Feb 01 21 0 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
National Feb 05 1,081 3 25.7% 21.7% 12.3% 16.0% 10.0% 3.7%

Polls can be found here, and Super Delegate totals can be found here. Also, while my position on the State Democratic Committee means I could never support such an effort, if you live in Michigan, you might want to seriously consider supporting this effort. Stopping McCain in Michigan would once again blow the Republican nomination wide open.

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Cleverness in Michigan (0.00 / 0)
With no real contest on the Democratic side, I can see low turnout and a lot of cross-over voting, but I can't see an effort like the one you linked to being too successful.

Serious cross-over voters are probably going for McCain. Only high-info voters will know how poorly Romney polls nationally and plenty of those will be voting for Paul as a fuck-you to the Republicans anyway. A movement to vote for Romney would be hard to organise without getting demonised and lacks the time to go viral anyway.

Similarly, I can see uncommitted performing poorly. None of the campaigns which withdrew can advocate for such a vote and retain the moral high ground, so it's likely that only high-info voters (most of whom will be trying to fuck up the Republican primary) will take that option - unless a succession of advocacy groups all endorse Uncommitted for Michigan.

I don't buy McCain abandoning South Carolina, by the way. Whilst establishment money has surely been pouring in to his coffers, he's still relatvely poverty-stricken and his campaign relies on huge amounts of positive free media. Turning up loudly saying that he doesn't expect to win but will campaign everywhere is sure to get him lots of pundit love. Which may give him first dibs on Thompson's collapsing support and also allow him to push Rudy down towards 10% in Florida.

Besides, South Carolina is much more important for the Republicans than for the Democrats - if you can't appeal to fundamentalist redneck southern racists, how can you claim to lead the Republican coalition?

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Why is she in SC today if she has skipped the state? (0.00 / 0)
ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: After an hour-long television interview critiquing Sen. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton went to an African American church, where the only words she had for her democratic rival -- were of praise.

Clinton, who attended services in a predominately African-American Church in Columbia, S.C., spoke about the presidential race.

"We never thought we would see the day when an African-American and a woman were competing for the presidency," Clinton said. "I am so proud of my party I am so proud of my country and I am so proud of Sen. Barack Obama."

Clinton delivered her remarks to the audience and noted


Clearly (0.00 / 0)
Washington Post candidate tracker needs to be updated faster.

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Pls Vote for Uncommitted in MI (0.00 / 0)
thanks.

I grew up in MI... (4.00 / 1)
And just sent my "uncommitted" reminder email to friends and family.  They all know my position - pro-Edwards first, then Anyone But Clinton (ABC).  So hopefully they will listen.  I'm pretty confident I swayed both my Democrat parents to vote for uncommitted.  Hopefully others have had luck too.

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. -- Martin Luther King, Jr

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To clarify... (0.00 / 0)
ABC does NOT include any Republicans.  This should go without saying, but no sense risking the confusion!

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. -- Martin Luther King, Jr

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considerations (0.00 / 0)
1) The Dem chart is incorrect in showing a total of 2209 unpledged delegates at the DNC.  There are fewer, as you know.

2) Clinton is not conceding SC, yet.  She campaigned there this weekend.  She will drop out if she loses NV.  I doubt she'll lose NV, though.

3) It looks like NV is pivotal now, but it looked like IA was pivotal and look what happened.  There has never been a race like this.  Rasmussen says that Clinton got only a 3 point national bounce following NH.  Obama got a big bounce nationally from Iowa but a small bounce in NH, where he needed it.

There are things we don't know.

Will Edwards keep praising Obama and pounding Clinton?  And to what effect? (I think it helped Clinton in NH.)
Is Gore really going to keep quiet?  Is he done with US internal politics?
Will the media treat the largest delegate contest yet, South Carolina, as meaningless because "blacks don't count"?  Will the media act like blacks don't count even when they (blacks) are rejecting the Clintons (assuming they do that)?

One thing is for sure.  The media will declare Obama toast if he loses SC.

 


Yeah... (0.00 / 0)
I'll be honest, I'm one of those dickheads that voted Paul here in the Michigan primary.

I'm praying Clinton's win here won't be too hyped up, especially if Paul performs well.


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