Byron Dorgan: The Best Progressive in the Senate

by: Matt Stoller

Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 08:22


Byron Dorgan gave a barnburner of a speech on our broken fiscal policy, trade policy, and regulatory crisis.  He went after hedge funds and called our fiscal policy reckless, and then added the following:  "The world see it.  The markets see it.  We're acting like a drunk who pretends that no one sees him drink."

More Byron!  Incidentally, Dorgan is the bulldog who championed net neutrality from 2005-2006, and he along with Ron Wyden advanced our goals substantially.  He also has a book out titled 'Take this Job and Ship It'.

Byron Dorgan

Sherrod Brown then spoke, and he talked about how more progressives in the Senate are auguring a new progressive era.  He's intensely focused on the middle class and plant closings, continuing on the theme from his election campaign.

Sherrod Brown

Schumer also spoke, and discussed how the Reaganite era is dead.  In 1980, people felt they could do it on their own, and Reagan, backed by very wealthy 'economic royalists', convinced them he was their leader to get the government off their back.  Today they no longer believe this, so the Reagan model of eliminating government no longer has popular support.  A lot of people don't realize that Schumer is a Reaganite Senator, whose thinking is organized around the 1980 and 1982 class of Democrats who were elected in spite of a severe anti-liberal tide.

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I've always thought (0.00 / 0)
Dorgan would be a great VP pick for Obama - kind of like North Dakota's Jim Webb, but on economic rather than national security issues.  He is one of the best senators when it comes to tax and fiscal policy, and a strong, red state progressive - exactly the kind of Democrats we need in the coming years.

Same with (0.00 / 0)
Kent Conrad, by the way - they're very similar in their political dispositions, especially on those economic/fiscal issues. Isn't it ironic how North Dakota, of all places, has two of the best Democrats in the Senate?

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Dorgan's one of my favorite Senators (0.00 / 0)
His manner is mostly down to earth (but not in the same way as Reid, whose manner sometimes feels deflating), he's a real leader (as Matt notes) on key Internet-related issues, and he seems to have enough guts to come out and tell it like it is, in plain, simple and (as Matt suggests) sometimes compelling words. I'm glad to see he impressed Matt with today's speech.  A handful of additional Democratic Senate seats could help someone like Dorgan apply his abilities to more significant effect in that too-often sclerotic legislative body.

Better than Feingold? (0.00 / 0)
Or are you distinguishing between economic progressives and Feingold's civil liberties focus?

It is pretty cool that a senator from North Dakota is so progressive.  Actually, I wonder if North Dakota is populated by the same people who settled Saskatchewan?  SK was the origin of the Canadian UHC system and has elected socialists before.  Also like ND, they go Conservative federally though.  It's a weird blend.  I guess it's the social conservative issues which drive them.


Not 1982! (0.00 / 0)
A lot of people don't realize that Schumer is a Reaganite Senator, whose thinking is organized around the 1980 and 1982 class of Democrats who were elected in spite of a severe anti-liberal tide.

Reagan's popularity tanked:

Job Performance Ratings for President Reagan
Gallup, 1982
DateApproveDisapproveNo Opinion
1/8-11/82494011
1/22-25/82474211
2/5-8/82474310
3/12-15/8246459
4/2-5/8245469
4/23-26/82434710
4/30-5/3/82444610
5/14-17/82454411
6/11-14/82454510
6/25-28/82444610
7/23-26/82424612
7/30-8/2/82414712
8/13-16/82414910
8/27-30/82424612
9/17-20/82424810
10/15-18/82424810
11/5-8/82434710
11/19-22/82434710
12/10-13/8241509

The Dems won 27 House seats that November. 

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


exactly (0.00 / 0)
They elected 27 moderate Reaganite Democrats, including Schumer.  That was the year that PACs began dominating Democratic House members.

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No Anti-Liberal Tide (0.00 / 0)
That was my main point. 

And, come to think of it, the Class of '82 included that well-known Reaganite lapdog Barbara Boxer.

I'm not saying she was typical. But even though Tony Coehlo, who came up with the idea of really hitting up corporate contributors, was running the DCCC, they still ran hard-hitting ads--with scissors, even!--blaming Reagan for trying to cut Social Security.

So, doesn't sound like they were running as Reaganites to me.

It was 1984, after the recession fadded, when the Party strategy started shifting more significantly.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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caveat (0.00 / 0)
Dorgan's great...except when it comes to immigration issues. There, unlike Brown, he's bought a good deal into the immigrants-are-stealing-our-jobs form of populism (judging on votes, I'd say to even a greater extent than other red-and-purple-state Senators like Webb).

uh (0.00 / 0)
Dorgan understands labor economics and he is AWESOME on immigration issues.  One of the Dems with some reality on wages, statistics and full awareness of the great global labor arbitrage agenda.

It is he who has lead the way to stop the unskilled guest worker Visas, which I might add is a major AFL-CIO agenda item.

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The Economic Populist


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Populist vs. Progressive (0.00 / 0)
I'm not too clear on Dorgan's immigration record, but I had also been under the impression that he was more populist than progressive per se.  Which is fine, since there is a lot of overlap there.

Yes we Kang

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true enough (0.00 / 0)
I'm not saying that I don't like him, or his passion and ability to communicate. But if you're looking for spotlighting a progressive populist with truly broad appeal, someone more like Sherrod Brown would be a better bet.

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no (0.00 / 0)
Brown completely ignores insourcing, precisely because of the constant corporate lobbyist propaganda who try to spin global labor arbitrage as some sort of "immigrant" issue, when it's plain not as well as certain groups more interested in membership and other agenda beyond the national labor force and the economic implications of oversupply.

Ohio has been decimated in the service sector by corporations using the H-1B and L-1 visas to not only displace US STEM and tech workers, as well as other professionals but also technology transfer that service out of the United States to be offshore outsourced.

You cannot ignore such a large component of globalization due to the constant rhetoric that is so misinformed on the realities of global labor arbitrage.

Dorgan on the other hand, will talk about it, as will Bernie Sanders.

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The Economic Populist


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Byron Dorgan - typo! (4.00 / 1)
You've got a typo in your title, which I hate people who point out typos but in this case it's going to go into your RSS feed

Yes, Byron Dorgan is the ultimate Senator and he knows his shit on economics, trade.

I wish he had ran for President, I would have dropped everything and volunteered.

I don't know how he keeps his energy up on those floor speeches.

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The Economic Populist


new community economics blog (0.00 / 0)
We're working on getting going a new community economics blog
and I'm going to put a plug in here.

If you like Byron Dorgan and know he's dead on with trade, economics, hedge funds, labor issues you're probably like the company over on the new blog.

Right now it's set up that anyone who writes will go to the front page.

The Economic Populist

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The Economic Populist


Drunken Metaphors (0.00 / 0)
We're acting like a drunk who pretends that no one sees him drink.

I once read somewhere (in the London Review of Books, maybe?) a really great formulation of the economic stewards as drunks metaphor.  The question was asked: do we as a society need to stop running around spending money like drunken sailors?  And the reply came: drunken sailors would actually typically be spending their own money, so in that sense they're a model of prudence compared to us.

Yes we Kang

Dorganisms (0.00 / 0)
linked image for video clips with famous Sen. Dorgan 1 liners :

hereDorganisms

More here

I find his analogies a lot of fun and more importantly, it's tough to make a bunch of statistics and graphs fun, so his talent is unique.

Unfortunately this site hasn't figured out that youtube done it better and has another sort of embedded that requires javascript in blog posts, I don't think so!

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The Economic Populist


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North Dakota (0.00 / 0)
may be a red state in presidential elections, but it has a culture that has evolved from its farmers being colonized by railroads, grain operators, and banks.  All this led to a revolt in the early 1900s with the formation of the Nonpartisan League which swept state government and instituted a state-run bank and a state-run grain elevator.  Later on the Farmers Union formed cooperative elevators and oil companies.  So the state has a history of fighting the man and it isn't surprising that it has produced Dorgan and Conrad.  I don't know if it's still available, but a film about North Dakota called Northern Lights is well worth a view.

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