An Interview With Pulitzer Prize Winning Journalist and Author Fred Kaplan

by: Intrepid Liberal Journal

Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 22:58


(Fred Kaplan is the author of the awe inspirting history of America's nuclear intellectuals, THE WIZARDS OF ARMAGEDDON (1983).  His new book sounds like an equally significant work, smashing to pieces the conventional post-9/11 narrative. - promoted by Paul Rosenberg)

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The topic below was originally posted on my blog, the Intrepid Liberal Journal as well as The Wild Wild Left, the Independent Bloggers Alliance, The Peace Tree and Worldwide Sawdust.

Most Americans are eager to turn the page on the Bush years. Yet even as we elect a new president we're still coming to terms with an era that has both tarnished America's reputation and diminished its influence.

Fred Kaplan chronicles the folly of the Bush years in his new book, Daydream Believers: How a Few Grand Ideas Wrecked American Power (John Wiley & Sons).

Kaplan writes that,

"Nearly all of America's blunders in war and peace these past few years stem from a single grand misconception: that the world changed after 9/11, when in fact it didn't.

Certainly, things about the world changed, not least Americans' sudden awareness that they were vulnerable. But the way the world works - the nature of power, warfare, and politics among nations - remained essentially the same."

Intrepid Liberal Journal :: An Interview With Pulitzer Prize Winning Journalist and Author Fred Kaplan
Kaplan also postulates that the Bush Administration as well as most Americans falsely believed we emerged from our Cold War victory stronger. In reality, our geopolitical position was weakened after the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991 because America's allies were free to pursue their own interests. In a bipolar Cold War world, America's allies depended on our protection and remained subservient to our leadership. Once the Cold War ended however, maintaining international coalitions required more compromise and skilled diplomacy because we didn't enjoy the same leverage.

Tragically, the Bush Administration completely misread our geopolitical position and alienated the world at the very moment we needed friends. Even more remarkable when one considers how much of the world was initially sympathetic to America following 9/11.

Compounding these misconceptions was a Secretary of Defense in Donald Rumsfeld who simply viewed Iraq as a laboratory to demonstrate how easily America could topple a sovereign government's regime. As Kaplan notes in his book, once Saddam's government fell, Rumsfeld lost all interest in the required follow through as Iraq went to hell.

Kaplan also provides anecdotes in his book to explain that in George W. Bush's universe, freedom is humanity's default state. Hence, all one had to do was use military power to eliminate an obstacle to freedom like Saddam Hussein or hold elections in Palestine and freedom would magically appear. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld never considered the hard work of establishing conditions that facilitate a civil society so necessary to freedom as important.

Thomas E. Ricks, the author of Fiasco: The American Military Adventure In Iraq, had the following praise for Kaplan's book:

"This is the inside history of our time, told with precision and confidence by an author who knows where the secrets are kept - and also that the most powerful and dangerous weapon in Washington, D.C. is a new idea."

Kaplan who writes the "War Stories" column for Slate was a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter for the Boston Globe while covering the Pentagon and post Soviet Moscow. He's also the author of the classic book, The Wizards of Armageddon and has written for The Atlantic Monthly, the New York Times, the New Yorker and The Washington Post among other publications.

Kaplan agreed to a podcast interview with me over the telephone about his book and national security policy during the Bush years. Our conversation was just over forty minutes and covered the concept known as a "revolution in military affairs," the fateful decision to disband the Iraqi army and ban members of the Baath Party from serving in high level positions, the Bush Administration's bizarre path to a diplomatic accommodation with North Korea, the dysfunctional reign of Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense, the current dynamic with Rumsfeld's successor Robert Gates and the path future presidents will need to follow for a sensible foreign policy.

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I Am REALLY Looking Forward To Reading This Book (0.00 / 0)
I have never stopped being amazed at how the CW post-9/11 narrative magically repells everything that doesn't fit its formulations.

Back in October, 2002, as Congress was voting to authorize use of military force in Iraq, I wrote an article about the neocons plans for global dominance, going back the first Bush Administration, and PNAC's more recent documents.  It was all quite obvious at the time, and in fact, I shared Project Censored's #1 Story slot with four others who wrote similar pieces in the same time-period.  Yes, nothing of what I wrote about then has penetrated the CW, except that neocons exist, DFHs don't like them (and are probably just a bunch of anti-Semites), and the surge is working, so the neocons were right all along.

Kaplan's book should be a very refreshing antidote to all that.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


For What It's Worth ... (0.00 / 0)
my take having read the book and spoken to him is that Kaplan's conclusions are non-ideological. His work is a sober analysis based upon facts, history and investigative reporting. Ideologues on the right will of course hate his book and some ideologues on the left may feel he didn't go far enough with this book. In my opinion however, Kaplan's approach makes this book even more credible and powerful. It's an important read.  

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Well, Anyone Who's Read His Work Online (0.00 / 0)
should have a pretty clear idea where he's coming from.  You don't have to have read his masterpiece to know that.

And I really can't imagine what more people would want.  Other than, that, say, the NYT fire Kristol and put Kaplan in his place.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I'd Be Cool With That ... (0.00 / 0)
I'd certainly take Kaplan over Thomas Friedman as the Times foreign affairs columnist.  

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From Albert Einstein about the invention of the atomic bomb that I always thought about from 9/11 afterwards:

"The atom bomb has changed everything, except our way of thinking"  

9/11 changed nothing, except our way of thinking.  

I too am planning on reading Kaplan's book, mainly to confirm what I have long suspected.  Any student of U.S. history inevitably concludes how lucky our country has been to have leaders like Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and FDR in charge in times of crises.  It appears with Bush II our luck has run out.  Right when we needed another Lincoln, we got Calvin Coolidge/Herber Hoover/James Buchanan instead.  


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