CBC Lashes Out at SEIU

by: Matt Stoller

Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 14:55


I have heard that the CBC is 'in mourning' over Al Wynn's loss, and of screaming matches and threats to Donna's supporters.  This article from Roll Call on Congressional Black Caucus members and their response to Al Wynn's loss lays it out pretty well.

Members of the Congressional Black Caucus are seething at the Service Employees International Union for the group's involvement in helping to defeat Rep. Albert Wynn (D-Md.) in a primary last week, the latest manifestation of what some say is a larger problem that exists between the two groups.

Following a closed-door CBC meeting on Wednesday, the day after Wynn's landslide loss to lawyer and community activist Donna Edwards (D), CBC Chairwoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (D-Mich.) plans to reach out to SEIU President Andrew Stern and request a meeting to discuss caucus members' concerns.

The caucuses - the Blue Dogs, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, the CBC, the New Democrats, and the Progressive Caucus - are first and foremost protection societies.  As examples, the House leadership could not even remove William Jefferson or Alan Mollohan off their respective powerful committees after serious allegations of corruption.  And so it makes sense that the CBC would get extremely angry and aggressive about Wynn's loss.

Still, the overall sense I get about the response to Donna's victory, and of Al Wynn himself, is that of a tackiness and an antiquated sense of corrupt entitlement.  Here's what I mean.

Matt Stoller :: CBC Lashes Out at SEIU
But Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) and several other CBC members said there was palpable anger within the group over Wynn's treatment. He said members believe the eight-term lawmaker did not have an anti-labor voting record and they are perplexed as to why he was so aggressively targeted.

"The Black Caucus members are very upset," Cummings said last week. "I'm very upset. I think my fellow members think he didn't deserve that."

Anti-Wynn ads paid for by SEIU's Committee on Political Education blanketed local airwaves in the final weeks before Tuesday's primary. SEIU-COPE reported spending at least $875,000 to communicate to voters in Maryland's 4th district on Edwards' behalf, with the bulk of that going for television advertising.

Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.) called SEIU's involvement in the Maryland race "puzzling" considering the CBC and labor groups have a long history of being allies.

"I think there's some real questions about why they were so upset with Al Wynn," Meeks said. "Members of the CBC want to know what's up."

He added: "Someone's going to reach out to have a meeting and we're going to find out what's going on."

According to the federal voting scorecard located on SEIU's Web site, Wynn was one of three Maryland Democrats to score a 100 percent record in the first session of the 110th Congress. In the 109th Congress, Wynn scored a 70 percent voting record according to the union's scorecard, the same as fellow Maryland Democratic Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger. Wynn voted against the union's interests on an amendment related to Internet freedom, the estate tax repeal and the presidential line-item veto.

SEIU spokeswoman Stephanie Mueller said the union's decision to back Edwards was based on a combination of factors, including the incumbent's overall voting record, not solely his votes on labor issues.

Wynn voted in favor of the Iraq War resolution in 2002 and bankruptcy reform in 2005, two positions that Edwards hammered the incumbent on during the race. She also pointed to the hundreds of thousands of dollars in corporate political contributions Wynn had accepted in an effort to paint him as more beholden to industry interests than his constituents.

"Our members did not feel that Al Wynn was representing their interests anymore," Mueller said. "The Representative wasn't listening to the constituents in his own district."

For these members, it's personal.  They are upset.  Wynn didn't deserve this.  There's no sense that Wynn wasn't representing his constituents, that the voters themselves had a role to play, only that SEIU was mean to them as a group.  It's not relevant that Al Wynn actually faked the endorsement of SEIU last cycle.  

And then it gets really tacky.

SEIU did not endorse Edwards when she ran against Wynn in 2006. But Mueller said the union and its members were familiar with Edwards because she has been active in Maryland liberal causes for years.

One CBC member, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the meeting they are seeking with SEIU and the members' feelings are the result of a culmination of things.

The Member said that aside from the union's involvement in Wynn's primary, his colleagues are upset about the "glaring disparity" in SEIU's political action committee giving to vulnerable Democrats compared to its contributions to CBC members, most of whom sit in politically safe districts but have strong voting records on labor issues.

"It's very disheartening," the CBC member said, pointing out that SEIU represents a membership that is largely made up of African-Americans and minorities while the union's leadership is majority white.

"I just think it was wrong," the Member said of SEIU's decision to target Wynn.

The Member asserted that CBC members are less likely to receive the maximum contribution from SEIU's PAC largely because they are considered safe politically.

According to CQ MoneyLine, SEIU doled out a little more than $1 million to federal candidates and PACs in 2007. Of that amount, at least $98,000 was distributed among 22 members of the CBC and their PACs.

Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fla.) said the CBC needs to have a broader discussion with SEIU about the union's pattern of giving.

"We have a need to talk with our friends in labor about the disparity in giving to those of us who have tremendous records," Hastings said.

It doesn't get more explicitly tacky than that.


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I wonder (0.00 / 0)
has Maxine Waters said anything about Donna's win?

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.

Calling (4.00 / 2)
the SEIU racist isn't going to change anything. The guy lost. They need to get over it. My god, what is it with some politicians feeling they entitled to their seats, and not accountable to their constituents?

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*they're n/t (0.00 / 0)


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also (4.00 / 1)
Donna Edwards is black too.  

Obviously the money thing is still important to the CBC members since money buys influence in the House and better committee assignments or leadership posts.  

If they want to make some kind of case against SEIU's choice of donations, they'd better find a bunch of safe white incumbents who get more money than the CBC safe incumbents.


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as is George Gresham (0.00 / 0)
who is president of 1199 SEIU, which put a lot of effort into this race.

http://www.1199seiu.org/about/...

http://1199seiu.org/media/news...


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Donna Edwards is black so that won't fly (0.00 / 0)


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I'm lost (0.00 / 0)
This might sound reductive-- but what does the CBC lose by losing Wynn? Is it unlikely that Edwards would join the CBC herself?

Is this just friends of Wynn that are mad or is there a strategic/structural reason for being upset?

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they lose prestige (0.00 / 0)
They couldn't protect one of their members.  It seems likely that Edwards would end up joining up, but still, they backed someone and that wasn't enough, so the loss is a blow to ego and esteem of the group.

There is some real sense to a caucus trying to protect its image in that regard, after all, part of the reason to join such a group is that your seat is protected.


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As evidenced by the flock of gutless Dim shit-heels who supported Lieberman (0.00 / 0)
AFTER he lost the primary--which, unfortunately includes the great Beige Hope--incumbency is what matters, not Democracy.

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The biggest mutual protection society in Democratic politics... (4.00 / 2)
...is the Democratic Caucus.  Granted, the approach of the Democratic Caucuses in both chambers is fundamentally more liberal than their Republican counterparts.  But is that a good thing?

Pelosi and Reid more or less explicitly embrace the theory that they need to go all out to protect their members in order to ensure caucus loyalty.  It's a crucial part of their whipping strategy for keeping the caucus unified.  No wonder, then, the CBC takes its cue from the top.  The Republicans, by contrast, were fond of bestowing lavish corporate rewards on members who cooperated and of foisting vicious primary challenges from the likes of Club for Growth on those who didn't.

The Democratic focus on empathizing with members' needs and protecting them (while preserving ideological diversity within the caucus) demonstrates fundamental liberal values, while the Republican emphasis on reward and punishment (while ideologically purifying their caucus) speaks just as directly to their values.  Pelosi and Reid have been pretty successful overall at keeping the caucus together, and it's neat that it reflects our values.

But the legislative record has shown that the protection society model doesn't actually do us much good in the real world.  Just as Democratic legislators across the country should ask themselves whether the party-wide protection society is something that's good for Democratic constituents, so the CBC should ask whether its protection society ends up benefiting Black people, especially in Democratic primaries against other Black people.

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seniority (0.00 / 0)
Seniority is huge in the House, and losing an 8-term Member and gaining a Jr. Member is not a good trade for the caucus.

The CBC needs to wake up and smell the issues. The interests of their constituents are not served by Reps like Al Wynn.


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Matt, question (4.00 / 3)
Are we worried about repairing the relationship between the CBC and Donna before she enters Congress? Will this eventually blow over, or will she always be the CBC outcast?

More generally, does the CBC have as much of an anti-women history as the CHC has been accused of? How much do you think gender plays into this?


Good questions (0.00 / 0)


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great questions (0.00 / 0)
Are we worried about repairing the relationship between the CBC and Donna before she enters Congress? Will this eventually blow over, or will she always be the CBC outcast?

More generally, does the CBC have as much of an anti-women history as the CHC has been accused of? How much do you think gender plays into this?

I am not worried.  It's not Donna that has lost public legitimacy, it's the CBC.  They are the weak party in this spat, and frankly, Donna's going to do just fine.

I think there is a strong corporate/progressive split between the men and the women in the CBC, though it's not quite as juvenile as the CHC and the Blue Dogs (there are 2 female blue dogs).  So gender is quite a strong factor.


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Matt, question (4.00 / 1)
Turnpike addresses the point that first came to my mind in reading this.  Obvoiusly, both Edwards and Wynn are black, so how does racism come into this?  If we want to play the CBC's tacky game of not-so-subtle charges of prejudice it wouldn't be difficult to point out that Edwards is a woman and Wynn is a man.  Of course, the reason Edwards won has nothing to do with race or sex - she was the better candidate with the better message and more in tune with her district - but still, if the CBC wants to throw around charges of prejudice with regards to the Edwards/Wynn race they should be made aware of the glass house in which they live.  

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The CHC only has that reputation recently because of Joe Baca. (0.00 / 0)
He's an asshole.

For some reason, it seems that Obama has some pathological and deep-seated psychological need for Republicans to like him.  Seriously.  It's weird.

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CBC (4.00 / 2)
The CBC has often been upset when one of their members loses in the primary, but when the new member is seated next January, they also join the caucus and become members in good-standing.

Artur Davis of Alabama,
Hank Johnson of Georgia,
Bobby Rush of Illinois,
Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick of Michigan,
Charles Rangel of New York,
Chaka Fattah of Pennsylvania,
Sheila Jackson-Lee of Texas:

all of the above gained their Congressional seats by first ousting a black incumbent in  a Democratic primary. Them all seem to fit in pretty well with the CBC these days.

Of course the CBC is an incumbent protection society. That's the way the buddy system work in Congress. And as such, they believe that donors should contribute to their re-elections - even when the money would arguably be better spent on competitive races elsewhere.

(I'd also note the irony that some of the folks complaining about SEIU not backing a CBC member are not supporting a CBC member who is running for President -- while the SEIU is)

But they're also grown-ups who will get over it. SEIU and CBC folks will talk it through and things will mend.

I suspect that one reason they may have been particularly upset in this case is that because MD-4 borders DC, they were directly exposed to all the ads and media coverage about the campaign in the DC media. That's something that normally doesn't happen when the primary campaign is far away from the capitol.

And the CBC probably has had more women in leadership than any other group in Congress (except the Women's Caucus - of course). I'm sure there is sexism there, just as everywhere else in our society, but the CBC includes some fierce women who wouldn't back down to anyone)  


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Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick won her seat by primarying an incumbent?!! (0.00 / 0)
And now she's livid about Wynn?  Hypocrisy much?

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yup (0.00 / 0)
She ousted Barbara-Rose Collins in 1996

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yep (0.00 / 0)
The caucuses - the Blue Dogs, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, the CBC, the New Democrats, and the Progressive Caucus - are first and foremost protection societies

yeah, this is very true. this has nothing to do with any real issue, it's simply their guy lost and now they want to blame other people or somehow get back at groups that they think caused him to lose. Let's forget about the voters believing Edwards was a better candidate, let's focus on these groups.


It's like how Cheney can't understand that transnational groups can conduct terrorism, (0.00 / 0)
because his worldview only admits states as real actors.

Congressfolks can't admit voters as the real actors here, because in their world only the political groups are real.

Voters brought Edwards to within 4 points of Wynn last cycle, without any help from the SEIU or Emily's List or most of the others.  There was obviously a lot of discontent out there among actual voters that has nothing to do with SEIU running ads.


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Interesting point. (0.00 / 0)
Congressfolks can't admit voters as the real actors here, because in their world only the political groups are real.

Wynn's notoriously lousy constituent service was apparently a feature, not a bug.

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It is a sense of entitlement (4.00 / 1)
     and it's all about the money. Makes me wonder where the  campaign funds actually end up. A lot of candidates purchase  services and supplies from businesses owned by relatives. Perfectly legal, but is it ethical? Kilpatrick ran unopposed  in 2006 and has no opposition yet for 2008. Maybe she needs money to bail out her corrupt son - Kwame - mayor of Detroit.  

YUP (0.00 / 0)
There are plenty of self-enriching ways to spend campaign money, especially when you don't actually have opponents to run against.

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On Issues of Potential Racism (0.00 / 0)
I have no idea whether this holds true or not in this instance, but it seems that there's potential for a sort of black vs. black racism? Back in 2002, when a young community activist named Cory Booker ran for mayor of Newark (the largest city in New Jersey, and predominantly black) against Sharpe James, an older, corrupt mayor, and accusations of Booker not being "black enough," were very casually tossed around.  Obviously Washington politics are a little less publicly vitriolic, but still I perceive a definite distinction between a lot of younger African-Americans who grew up after the civil rights movement, and those who witnessed it or are "older" (some of whom have become corrupt, others who haven't).

Frequent criticism of CBC from the Af-Am community... (0.00 / 0)
...can often by found at the progressive Black Agenda Report, some of whose contributors came from the (apparently) now defunct CBC Monitor.  They gave Congressman Wynn a grade of 'D' in their January 2008 report* - background article is here, and the 7-page .pdf report card is here.

*CBC members Yvette Clarke (NY), Artur Davis (AL), and Edolphus Towns (NY) got 'F' grades.  Whether that's a problem for them depends in large part on the nature of their respective districts, and whether credible primary opponents exist.

Keep your mind free and clear, Donna Edwards, and don't sell your soul.


A great thread with multiple reasons given here why... (0.00 / 0)
..............we need to keep working, working working to elect 'More and Better Progressive Democrats.

The ground is shifting under the corrupt 'Versailles' structures which have for too long ignored the people's interests in the interests of lining their own pockets and protecting their own institutional power.

'Off with their heads!'

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Tacky, yes, but it shows (0.00 / 0)
the trend where our congress critters do not believe the voters count anymore.

As many people have noted, there was/is a sense of entitlement. This may be due to never being challenged, because we the people have been sitting on our asses being lazy and not voting for so long that they count us out regularly.

I am encouraged for the first time in a long time by the raw numbers of democrats who are voting in primaries being so high, and finally many more people are getting involved in our political system.  For the road is long to really deliver Progressive / Liberal government for the majority of the people. This gilded age class of entitled elites has almost total control of the media, so we have lots of work to do.  

Good luck everybody, and again, and also, vote for whomever the eventual candidate out of the convention is, Hillary or Obama. (my guy did not make the cut) Quit threatening to not Vote if your candidate does not make it, they both suck, and money seems to be how they are winning. But to protest vote for a repug, or not to vote at all is how we got here. Ya want that on your conscience??

Like I hear all the time here at Open Left, More and Better Democrats are what we need. And Matt, we appreciate all that you and Mike and Chris do.


Expanding the definition of labor issues is good. (0.00 / 0)
SEIU expanded labor issues in this election to include the bankruptcy bill and the estate tax repeal.  

That's exactly what the labor movement should be doing -- and it's what it hasn't done in decades of continuous losses for labor and for the middle and working classes in this country.  



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