OH-10: Kucinich In Trouble

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 13:17


Dennis Kucinich might be in trouble for re-nomination to Congress, if fundraising is any indication:

Cleveland Councilman Joe Cimperman raised nearly five times as much money last year as incumbent Dennis Kucinich in their 10th Congressional District race, according to financial disclosure reports filed Thursday.

Kucinich, who has spent the past year running for president, raised $47,000 - a third of which was raised in the last three months of 2007. The filing period runs through Dec. 31.

Most of Cimperman's $228,000 in contributions came from lawyers, developers, bankers and business associates. Forest City Enterprises' Ratner family contributed $11,000, and $13,800 came from the Goldberg family, who are affiliated with AmTrust Bank, the former Ohio Savings Bank. About 40 people gave Cimperman the maximum amount of $2,300, including Scott Wolstein, head of Developers Diversified Realty Corp. and lead developer of the Flats East Bank neighborhood; Legacy Village developer Mitch Schneider; event promoter Mike Belkin; and Republican investor Jeff Jacobs.

I don't really know anything about Kucinich's main opponent, Joe Cimperman, but most of his donations do appear to be from large donors with corporate connections. It would definitely suck if Kucinich were to lose against a corporate challenger, potentially canceling out the momentum we gained from Donna Edwards last week.

At the same time, it needs to be said that the main criteria for a successful primary challenge is for the incumbent to not take care of his or her district. If the member of Congress being challenged is home a lot, stays connected to activists on the ground, listens to voters, and conducts good constituent services, that member of Congress will be virtually impossible to defeat in a primary no matter the ideological differences s/he has with the voters of the district. Given that he decided to engage in a second quixotic run for President instead of taking care of his district, Kucinich might be in some real trouble. Kucinich brought the opening for a primary challenge upon himself by running for President again.

Second, it should also be noted that over the past year Kucinich has actually raised way, way more money than all of his primary challengers combined. According to his most recent FEC report, Kucinich's presidential campaign raised $4,319,601 through January 31st. This far surpasses the cumulative totals raised by his seven primary challengers, who collectively did not surpass $600,000. Kucinich clearly has the ability to raise money, and if he had not ended his presidential campaign with a net financial deficit of $400,000, he would be able to swat all of these challengers like so many flies. Instead, he has only $13,383 cash on hand.

In other words, while it would be terrible for Kucinich to lose to a corporate challenger like Joe Cimperman, or to Iraq Bush Dog in waiting Rosemary Palmer, he has brought both the opening for a serious primary challenge, and the financial deficit he faces in that campaign, on himself. As such, while I have tremendous sympathy for the plight of a progressive Democrat targeted by corporate interests and Bush Dogs, I do not have a huge amount of sympathy for Kucinich himself. Presenting a series of good policy papers and having a decent voting record in Congress are extremely important, but they are not the only necessary factors for being an effective progressive. It is also necessary to be smart politically, and to have an actual strategy to achieve your legislative and electoral goals. Politics is not just about sending a message, or making a statement. There will never be a progressive governing majority in this country unless we pursue effective political strategies and execute them with the proper level of organizing work. Frankly, I don't think that Kucinich is doing this, and it is really annoying that he has made himself so vulnerable to right-wing challenges because he wanted to grandstand at a few debates.

Kucinich would have been far more effective for the progressive cause if he had taken care of his home district, and used his national fundraising profile to help other progressives, like Donna Edwards or Mark Pera, get elected in primary challenges against conservative Democratic incumbents, open blue district seats where we can make meaningful progressive gains in Congress, and in Republican-held districts where progressives have a real shot in the general election. That would have actually been an effective way of spending nearly $5,000,000. Instead, he throwing even more progressive money into his own personal sinkhole, and creating a potential to erode all of the hard work actual  progressive movement types put into the Donna Edwards campaign. As A few months ago, Matt wrote that Kucinich is a distraction for the progressive movement, and the predicament Kucinich has put himself in demonstrates Matt's point. I hope Kucinich wins, but more than that I hope he starts making smart political decisions and working to build up a movement rather than just himself.

Black Agenda Report has a different take on this campaign.

Chris Bowers :: OH-10: Kucinich In Trouble

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While I think there is an unpalatable narcissism in Kucinich's prez run, (0.00 / 0)
he has also successfully fulfilled the role of the "far out"/purely idealistic lefty, which makes our more reasonable candidates comes across as, well, more reasonable.

And while I'd personally prefer someone with a more pragmatic approach representing my district, it's clearly not an average constituent/grassroots movement pushing for his ouster. It's a corporate maneuver. I certainly hope all his presidential supporters-- who know they donated money to make a point about ideals, rather than to actually get him elected-- support him in this more practical battle.


I hope they do too (4.00 / 2)
He clearly has a large base of small donors. He should be able to raise the needed money from them. And, I also hope that they tell him  to start using that money in smarter, more effective, ways.  

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I hope he wins this time (4.00 / 2)
and all indications from the ground is that his challengers will split the vote. But I'd like to see a real effective progressive challenge him and pledge to not run for higher office and have better constituent service but the same policy platform. Unlikely that will happen though.

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power

Why All The Criticism Of Kuchinich? (4.00 / 2)
We need to rally around any progressive in Congress. It's not like there are so many that we can spare any -- and certainly NOT if they are going to be replaced with Bush-Dogs who will vote to betray us at every turn!

Plus, this just sends a horrible message to politicians everywhere that corporate America can take you out if you turn against them!

This is just horrible news! We seriously need to prevent some hack from turfing Kuchinich out of office!


I donated to Kucinich in 2004 (0.00 / 0)
and caucused for him as well and Chris's post seems perfectly reasonable to me.  I see a lot of unfair and counterproductive criticism of him on Dailykos, but not here.

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I object to your characterization of Rosemary Palmer (4.00 / 2)
as an "Iraq Bush Dog." As someone who has known Rosemary personally for some time, I must tell you that you could not be further off base.

Rosemary opposed the Iraq war from the beginning and was propelled into activism by the death of her Marine son in Iraq in 2005. She and her husband formed a non-profit called Families of the Fallen for Change http://fofchange.org/ to lobby for an end to the war, and appeared on a number of national television programs to speak out against the Bush policies. They have devoted a great deal of time to lobbying members of Congress on these issues.

She supported and worked with Dennis Kucinich until the moment he broke a promise to us and decided to run another hopeless campaign for the presidency instead of effectively using the power of his position as a member of the new Dem majority in Congress. She has respectfully not run a negative campaign against him, instead focusing on the need for someone without higher ambitions to use a fresh approach to finding solutions to the Iraq war and other issues vital to the people of OH-10.

It is the late-to-the party candidates, particularly Cimperman, who smelled blood in the water and jumped in on a GET DENNIS mission at the behest of special interests.

Please do your homework before impugning the character of a woman who is very much admired for who she is and her dedication to saving other military families (like mine) from the tragedy they befell her own.


Her postion on Iraq (4.00 / 1)
I based that characterization on her plan for Iraq, which appears to center around a non-binding, "floating" timeline for withdrawal. In other words, no timeline at all.  

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I respectfully invite you (0.00 / 0)
to go back for another read. She is quite the antithesis of Bush.  

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Support Kucinich (4.00 / 3)
I live in the district next door in Cleveland. From what I hear from people in Kucinich's district, he provides excellent constituent services. He also has been a very strong supporter of labor issues -- something people in his district really appreciate. He fought for more funding for the NASA Glenn Research Center near the Cleveland airport and for the Defense Finance and Accounting Service (DFAS) in Cleveland -- both of which provide good jobs in this area. He has fought to clean up Lake Erie and the Cuyahoga river while preserving jobs. He has also worked to establish a respectful dialog between the growing Arab population in Cleveland and the very conservative Jewish community. Dennis grew up very poor (he was homeless at various times) and still fights for poor people. He hasn't forgotten his roots. When Dennis defeated a conservative incumbent Republican (Martin Hoke), he was hailed by the progressive community.

I think most of the discontent with Dennis comes from two things:

1) The Cleveland Plain Dealer has been attacking Dennis viciously for 30 years -- ever since he was mayor and challenged the downtown elite (especially by not selling the municipal power company). Rather than appreciating a native-son who runs for president, the PD ridicules him relentlessly. The Plain Dealer has some good liberal reporters and columnists, but editorially they almost always back any Republican that has a chance of winning or the most conservative Democrat in liberal districts. Today, the Plain Dealer endorsed Dennis' opponent Joe Cimperman. Cimperman is a progressive Democrat too and would likely be an ok representative. But his backing by corporate interests is disturbing.

2) The economy in Ohio sucks and the people of OH-10 are seriously hurting -- all of Ohio has been devastated by the demise of manufacturing, and Cleveland has been hit particularly hard. Middle-class people have moved out of Cleveland to the suburbs and left a lot of poor people and misfits behind. Dennis has railed against bad trade deals and has fought for a decent urban policy, but of course, Bill Clinton and then George Bush have not helped poor cities much in the last 20 years. You can blame Dennis for not being more effective in turning this around, but it is blame that we all share.

Also, as I understand it, legally Dennis cannot use money raised for his presidential campaign to fund his Congressional campaign. So he has very little money for his run for Congress.

I have been frustrated by some of Dennis' New Age flaky friends (seeing UFOs with Shirley MacLain, etc.) and that he married a woman half his age (his third marriage). But Dennis has been one of the few progressives willing to speak out against the military and against bad trade deals. He supports single-payer health, supports a Department of Peace to refocus US foreign and domestic policy on conflict resolution instead of on bullying others, and opposes the death penalty. He has been one of the few people who have actually presented progressive ideas and gotten those ideas out to a national audience through the presidential debates. Dennis was one of the few people who spoke out against the Iraq war long before it was popular (and before it started).

Dennis has his problems, but he is one of the best progressive voices we have.


Too left (4.00 / 1)
for Open Left. Even "progressives" prefer white bread.

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Yeah, white bread like Donna Edwards (4.00 / 1)
Yeah, here at Open Left we spend our time supporting "white bread" campaigns like Donna Edwards. Even apart from your baseless charge that my frustration with Kucinich has anything whatsoever to do with his policies being too "far left," do you realize the irony of that statement?  

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This says all you need to know about Joe Cimperman (4.00 / 2)
They are stooping pretty low to get Dennis. Cimperman's field director Bob Aber is sending out this letter (published in local newspapers) calling for McCain supporters to HIJACK the Democratic primary. Nice, huh?

Voters in the 10th Congressional District unite! Republicans, Independents, and Democrats, cast your vote for Joe Cimperman, democrat for U.S. Congress United the 10th District wins, divided Dennis wins.

   The Ohio primary election scheduled for March 4 is an open primary. This means registered Republican or Independent voters can request a Democratic ballot. By March 4 the Republican Presidential candidate will be John McCain. I challenge the Republicans and Independents to cross the aisle and cast their vote for Joe Cimperman, and bring home a victory for the 10th Congressional district.



Puts that Obama (0.00 / 0)
"Democrats for a day" thing in a different light for some Obamacans and Obamaniacs, doesn't it? Sorry, first thing that came to mind.

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Kucinich as litmus (4.00 / 1)
Kucinich has become a kind of litmus test for where bloggers and others stand on the political scale. Even a site named Open Left finds him too left to ever pass up a zinger about his lack of "practicality". What does that mean, really? Why are his campaigns "hopeless"? Simple -- it's just code for being too far left -- he introduced an impeachment bill, campaigned for single payer health care, stood up, almost alone, against Bush's phony War on Terror. He tells truths that are inconvenient for those whose political dreams stop just slightly to the left of Bill and Hill and John and Barack.

Politics needs real ideas and real challenges to the Hallmark Card collection that passes for campaigning and "analysis". Kucinich fills that essential role. He deserves support and respect instead of mockery that so nicely echoes Karl Rove. The claim that he's not serving his constituents follows the same pattern: an assertion without evidence. I'm happy about Donna Edwards and did what I could for Pera. But neither is an example of anything that most of the world would recognize as "left". Nor would Clinton, Obama, or Edwards. When Chris and the rest of the "progressive" detractors come up with a means of getting a leftist message out beyond nattering on small blogs and writing op-eds for the Nation, I might agree that Kucinich's voice is no longer essential. Until then I'll be doing what I can to make sure he is not mowed down by corporate-money shills. So should anyone else that calls themselves progressive.


It's not about being too far left. (0.00 / 0)
It's about him being a ridiculous figure, who cares more about vanity runs for president than he does about either doing the hard work of legislating or serving his constituents.  The guy's a flake, and if he loses I, for one, will be quite pleased.  There's plenty of lefty congresspeople who don't inspire the same kind of dislike that Kucinich does.  If he loses, I say good riddance.

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This has nothing to do with his policies (0.00 / 0)
My contempt for Kucinich, as expressed in this post, has absolutely nothing to do with his policies. Not a single thing.

Read the post, just in case you didn't already. I'm angry that he has put himself in this vulnerable position by not taking care of his district and by wasting all of his fundraising on a presidential campaign. Never once did I criticize any of his policies. You are making up the charge that I find him too far left out of nowhere.

As I said in the post, it would be terrible for progressives if Dennis lost. At the same time, he shares a lot of the blame for putting himself in that position by running for president instead of taking care of his district, and then deficit spending from his fundraising base.  


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Kucininch Will Probably Win (0.00 / 0)
Today's Plain Dealer reports that Kucinich has raised $700,000 for his Congressional race. Relying on his national base has enabled him to raise more than all his opponents combined. I'm not sure I like this strategy, but it will probably work for him.

Since Kucinich's constituency service is great, much of the criticism that he has not "taken care of his district" seems to be leveled by people who want him to bring more pork home. I prefer Kucinch's effort to change the way the federal government operates: instead of pork-barrel politics, implementing a decent urban policy that would include cleaning up all the abandoned brownfield sites in Cleveland, protecting poor people from mortgage fraud (and now helping those who were defrauded), and beefing up social services to poor people. Kucinich hasn't done a great job of pushing for these things -- he is often more of a showboater than an effective organizer -- but that seems to be his strategy. And as I say, I much prefer this more progressive strategy -- even though it hasn't been very effective -- than going for pork.

Now that Kucinich has raised so much money and given that he has four opponents who will probably split the opposition vote, I think he will probably win the primary on March 3rd. And his district is very Democratic so he will win hands down in November.


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Let me add (0.00 / 0)
That looking at Cimperman's positions, he looks to be a perfectly orthodox liberal.  He's opposed to the war in Iraq, pro-choice, pro-labor, etc.  He seems entirely inoffensive.

yeah, just because he SAYS some things, let's all believe it. (0.00 / 0)
He's backed by corporations for a REASON.

DUH!

Some people can be so obtuse, naive, and gullible.

For some reason, it seems that Obama has some pathological and deep-seated psychological need for Republicans to like him.  Seriously.  It's weird.


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Yeah... (4.00 / 1)
It's the Kucinich fans who are hard-nosed realists.

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Yeah (0.00 / 0)
But Kucinich has a record and he can still be an effective advocate if some current personality traits are different.

Cimperman, true, has boilerplate "liberal" stances on quite a few issues, but Kucinich does know his stuff and talk about his positions in a much more coherent and learned fashion. If there were a serious debate on statewide television, there's no way I could see Cimperman coming out of that primary alive. Sounds like a nice enough guy, though.


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Maybe not the only one (0.00 / 0)
Veteran civil rights icon and congressman John Lewis drew a Democratic challenger today. The opponent, a 30 year old minister,described Lewis as an embarrassment because of his indecision in the Presidential race.  Don't know anything about his one but it could be part of a larger pattern.

well (0.00 / 0)
this one is purely about him endorsing Hillary instead of Obama. There is no issue outside of that. I'm a bit outside of his district. My congressman(David Scott) has changed over to Obama. Not supporting Obama is a big no-no in Atlanta.

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That's sad to hear n/t (0.00 / 0)


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Kucinich will win; OH-10 debate analysis (0.00 / 0)
First, Kucinich has a total of four Dem contenders; then there are two GOP candidates vying for their party's nomination.  The link you have where it says seven contenders includes money numbers related to the GOP candidate against him in 2006.  That person, I believe, is in Iraq and is not running for office this year.  Kucinich's primary rivals are Palmer, Cimperman, Mayor O'Grady and Barbara Ann Ferris.  The two Republicans in their primary are James Trakas and Jason Werner.

Second, here's a rundown of the debate held between all five Dem challengers, plus links to audio, video and a live-blog of the debate.  There are also links there to some excellent comment threads on the blog Brewed Fresh Daily in which actual constituents go back and forth on Dennis (I know they are actual because I actually know and have met a few of them).

I'm not in his district and it does baffle me because he is an odd bird.  But that district is going to re-elect him.  No one has met the threshold of showing why the district needs someone else and that they are the someone else the district needs strongly enough that he or she can convince enough residents that Kucinich must go.

My two cents, from outside the district and having never met any of the candidate personally.


presidential run was necessary and practical (0.00 / 0)
Most of what I know about HR 676 I learned by being an activist for Kucinich.  Most of what I know about the lead up to the war is from being an activist for Kucinich.  His campaign has re-energized the peace and justice community here in suburban NY.  Even the Hillary crowd now has a clear idea about what they would stand for if only they could come out of the closet.  I have some knowledge of local politics, and it looks like the assault against Kucinich is being funded by local developers.  That usually means there is more than just money against him, because local officials are quite often on the payroll of developers to amend zoning for projects.  These same local officials also have their constituent services vote mills, so if the developers and the local officials work in tandem, it presents a very powerful greed and corruption machine.  Here in my district, he developers run ALL politics, the majority of voters are fooled by "bread and circuses" while the infrastructure is a cash cow for the developers and the politicians in their pocket.  Without honest and independent people like like Kucinich in the race, even strong people become hopeless and cynical.

Dennis raised $687 K (0.00 / 0)
New numbers came in at swing state project.  Dennis raised $687 K between 12/31 and 2/13 giving him $200 K more than Cimperman for the campaign.

Damned by faint praise..... (0.00 / 0)
this is ridiculous. Kucinich is a progressive leader, in the House and in his pursuit of the nomination. Expressing such lukewarm praise for him in his reelection is unacceptable, esp. since the challenger is clearly not progressive but a corporatist or Bluedog or worse.

I'm beginning to doubt whether this is a progressive site or just the Matt and Chris' show. Shame. Kucinich is a great House Rep. That is his forte and where he should remain, IMO. And we should support him without reservation on this site if we are truly progressive.


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