The Role of Rightwing Media Watch Groups In The Gramscian War of Position

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 12:34


I've written before about the Gramscian "war of position" that the right has been fighting for the last 40-50  years or so, and which liberals and Democrats have still largely refused to engage.  The war of position is all about controlling instutions that in turn serve to define social, cultural and political reality.

Gramsci developed the concept in response to the question of why the European working class had failed to make a proletarian revolution.  His answer: bougroise institutions still controlled their thought.  A proletarian revolution could only occur after proletarian counter-institutions had been created to counter their indoctrination-subtle and not-so-subtle-by bourgoise institutions.  Although Gramsci is a figure of the left, conservatives long ago surpased the left in picking up on Gramsci, even without knowing in most cases.  However, Rush Limbaugh wrote about Gramsci explicitly as far back as 1992 in his second book, See, I Told You So.

A key aspect of Gramsci's theory is that different institutions work together, like units in an army, simply by fulfilling their individual functions.  However, it is obvious that if one defines those functions in slightly different ways, one can significantly increase how effectively different institutions work together.  And nothing illustrates this better than the way that conservatives define media bias and the detection of it by media watch groups.  While the left is reality-based, and defines bias in terms of things like (a) spreading falsehoods, (b) ignoring truths, and (c) presenting biased pictures by excluding some topics, stories, sources and points of view while dramatically over-representing others, the right is war-of-position-based, and defines bias in terms of "are you for us, or against us"?  And because of this, it is intensely personal.  It's all about demonization and attacking individuals, just like their politics.

As an illustration of this, on the flip, I'm posting a extended version of an article I wrote for Random Lengths News back in 2002.  It's about the rightwing media watch group, the Media Resource Center, whose "Notable Quotable" newsletter is sent out to thousands of news organizations-including us.  The way in which they conceive both media bias and their role in fighting it fits perfectly into a Gramscian framework-and has nothing to do with "media bias" as an objective social scientist might define it.

I am not saying that we should mimic them.  Indeed, I think that Media Matters has developed a very potent reality-based counter-strategy.  But we do have to understand them, and we do have to do a much better job of integrating the work that Media Matters does into a larger structure of institutions that does not yet exist, even though it is most certainly growing-although far too much of that growth is still confined to the online world.

For a deeper look at what we're up against, join me on the flip...

Paul Rosenberg :: The Role of Rightwing Media Watch Groups In The Gramscian War of Position
The Liberal Bias of Occasionally Noticing The Truth

As part of Random Lengths' coverage of the 10th anniversary of the 1992 riots, I wanted to take a deeper look at the root causes behind the continued conditions which remain largely unchanged.  The result was my article on social dominance, a comprehensive theory explaining the systematic cohesion behind multiple facets of racism, sexism and ethnic prejudice.  Most news media spend far too little time trying to illuminate why things happen.  Too much "what" and too little "why" leaves people feeling overwhelmed,  helpless, even desperate.  That's not good journalism as I understand it.

Perhaps that's why I was genuinely puzzled when "Notable Quotables," a newsletter we get from the conservative Media Research Center, presented the following as an example of "liberal bias" in the media:

Probing Liberal "Root Causes"

"Today [South Central Los Angeles dentist Bill] Faulkner's office is back in that shopping center....But the root causes of the riot, he says, are still there....When it comes to the people, little has changed here in ten years. South Central still has a high unemployment rate and a high crime rate. Los Angeles remains deeply divided along racial lines with an enormous wealth gap between the rich and the poor."  -- ABC's Judy Muller on South Central Los Angeles ten years after the riots, April 29 World News Tonight.

I found this passage as bland as custard.  It did nothing to explore the "root causes," much less to look for the root causes behind the root causes -- as I tried to do by writing about social dominance.  It just mentioned them -- nothing more. It said nothing about who or what was responsible for them, or how we might address them.  "So, where was the bias?" I wondered.  I decided to find out.

I talked with "Notable Quotables" co-editor Richard Noyes, who explained, "The idea behind this was... how the focus [was] on the root causes of the riots.  As if there's a broader sociological phenomena that needs to be addressed moreso than individuals being responsible for their own behavior, their own conduct."

I still didn't get it.  Muller wasn't excusing the rioters, and individual responsibility gets talked about every day, while the continued divide between South Central and Bel Air rarely gets the scrutiny it deserves. "But isn't there a need to look at root causes?" I asked.  "That is one argument," Noyes responded.

Now I thought he was missing the point: "But, the idea of root causes is not necessarily opposed to the idea of individual responsibility, its not an either/or".   I was right. He was missing the point. He readily agreed that it wasn't either/or, and then went right back to complaining, "But this story only looked at that one side of the coin".  Noyes -- like most conservatives -- just doesn't seem to understand what "root causes" are.  They aren't the other side of the coin, they are the reason you toss a coin in the first place -- a whole different level of explanation.  If "root cause" explanations don't favor conservatives, they should blame reality -- not the media.

Conservative media critics, in particular, have a hard time understanding the very concept of "explanation".   Social scientists, like physical scientists, use mathematics to model their theories and test their hypotheses -- as well as those of others.  It's not enough to simply claim, as Noyes does, that "the mainstream press, which a lot of Americans get their news from, is overwhelming populated by people with liberal beliefs.  Those beliefs bleed over into the coverage, and the conservative point of view is usually under-represented."  You have to actually prove some sort of causation-and prove that it dominates over other factors that impact the news as well.  That's how science works.  That's how reality works.

The image of a liberal-dominated media doesn't square with what conservatives say when their guard is down.  For example, way back in 1988, Adam Myerson, then-editor of the Heritage Foundation's Policy Review, wrote, "Journalism today is very different from what it was 10 to 20 years ago. Today, op-ed pages are dominated by conservatives....but this creates a problem.... If Bill Buckley were to come out of Yale today, nobody would pay much attention to him... there are probably hundreds of people with those ideas [and] they have already got syndicated columns."

Even before that, overall newspaper management was staunchly right-of-center.  Only twice since 1932 have more newspapers endorsed a Democrat for President than a Republican.  And a 1998 survey of Washington journalists found that most called themselves "centrists," as they lined up to the right of the public on a wide range of economic issues.  For example, 59% of the public rated protecting Medicare and Social Security as a "top" or "single highest" priority, compared to 39% of journalists.

If you really believe that conservative viewpoints are under-represented, consider how Social Dominance has been neglected by the media (my article on it is the first I've seen in print), while The Bell Curve, which offered a conservative "root cause" explanation to the wealth gap -- i.e. blacks are inferior -- got massive media play despite the fact that social scientists ripped it to shreds.  That's the problem the anecdotal approach that conservatives are so fiercely wedded to: there are anecdotes supporting both sides, but there's no sense of what they add up to without using scientific methods, without digging past mere appearances into actual patterns and their causes.

It may sound like a lot of hard work, time-consuming number-crunching which can be interpreted a dozen different ways, so it still doesn't prove anything.  But it's not.  At least not always.   Consider the example of Bernard Goldberg's recent "liberal media"-bashing bestseller, Bias.  It's loaded with anecdotes, and mighty light on anything resembling a scientifically testable hypothesis, much less evidence. But it did claim that "In the world of the Jennings and Brokaws and Rathers, conservatives are out of the mainstream and have to be identified. Liberals, on the other hand, are the mainstream and don't have to be identified."

Stanford researcher Geoff Nunberg, decided to test this, using a database of about 30 papers.   He found the word "liberal" attached to five liberal politicians 4.21% of the time, compared to 3.2% for the "conservative" label attached to five conservative politicians. (A number of conservatives tried to refute him, using methods Nunberg found variously flawed.  Even disregarding their flaws, none showed the sort of overwhelmingly disparity Goldberg alleged.  All differences were far too small to be detected without counting.)

But does labeling a position necessarily indicate you disagree with it? Conservative media darling Andrew Sullivan thought so.  Trying to counter criticism of Goldberg, he cited a statistical analysis showing that the NY Times used "right-wing extremist" at least six times more than "left-wing extremist," since 1996.  "There are so many problems with this technique that it would take a whole book to explain them," wrote Bob Sommersby, of The Daily Howler. Easier to just run a simple experiment: with a 9-1 ratio over the same period the right-wing Washington Times tested out as even more liberal the NY Times.

Simple statistical analysis wrecks havoc with MRC's work as well.  At year end they select groups of related "Notable Quotables" and send them to a panel of conservative judges to select their "Annual Awards for the Year's Worst Reporting".   There were fourteen categories for 2001.  Not be outdone by messieurs Sommersby and Nunberg, I did a sophisticated statistical analysis of my own: I counted the selections.  Only 25 of 65 items (less than one every two weeks) could plausibly be called "reporting" -- news items, that is -- and 10 of those were a stretch, at best.  Almost all the rest were opinions or analysis in various settings.   (Exception: a cable broadcast of Helen Thomas introducing former President Clinton won a first place bias award.)

So "Worst Reporting" was a lie -- or as I put it diplomatically to Noyes, it was "confusing".  He said I was "the first person who has expressed any confusion with that title".   That's a good indication of how little scrutiny is given to claims of "liberal media" bias.  No one stops to ask the simplest questions when such claims are made.  The accusation alone is treated as its own proof.

Only slightly more sophistication was needed to discover that MRC's judges found less bias on network TV than on cable, and less in news than opinion pieces.

Average scores were higher for stories on cable (55.08), syndicated TV (52) and websites (48) than for magazines, network TV, newspapers, and local TV (all tightly bunched from 40.17  to 39.40)  Only two of 14 first places went to network TV -- and one was in a category explicitly limited to network morning shows.  Cable got 5, websites 2, magazines 2, local TV 2, syndicated TV ("The McLaughlin Group," no less!) got 1.

Non-news stories averaged 47.5 compared to 39.04 for news reports, and 37.0 for the subcategory of hard news, second-lowest behind the catch-all "other," with only two items.   First places went to 12 non-news stories, no hard news stories, and only two soft news pieces -- one in a category limited to soft news.

Without MRC's blinders on, these figures speak loud and clear -- even without questioning the legitimacy of any supposed example of bias: they find relatively little bias on network TV news, where most of their wrath is directed. Typically, ABC Weekend Anchor Carole Simpson was cited three times -- and won a first place...for her online opinion columns, not her on-air reporting.

MRC claims that none of this matters.  When I pointed out the lower bias scores for network TV, Noyes said, "Okay, well I think that probably misses the point.  I think what, particularly with our judges, they do tend to focus on personalities.  So the fact that Bryant Gumble up until last week was on broadcast, you ended up with a large number of votes that went into that because, you know, people recognized him as a figure who they regard as having a liberal ax to grind.  It's not by type of media so much as it's by the personality of journalists and where they do tend to show up."

Call me old-fashioned, but focusing on personalities rather than the content of news stories sounds a lot more like a witch-hunt than a scientific search for truth.  It makes perfect sense, of course, if your purpose is purely political -- to put people on the defensive, and drive them off the air.  (Just ask Bill Mahr, who got First Place in "Damn Those Conservatives" and Second in "Blaming America First".)  MRC claims it's difficult to look at content.  As Noyes explains, "The underlying background of a lot of these people is liberal. To greater and lesser degrees, they keep it in check in their coverage or it bleeds through in their coverage, and the premise is that it biases their report."

Perhaps -- if you accept the right-wing view of who's a liberal, and ignore all the contrary evidence of conservative journalistic bias.  But even then, there are other biases working as well: the dictates of bosses, shareholders, and advertisers just for starters, not to mention the pressure for ratings that drive coverage toward the sensational, and often frightening, and away from root causes.  This helps explain why, for example, people continued thinking that crime was going up in the late 1990s, years after it had begun to decline.  The job of witch-hunting is to point fingers at convenient targets, but the job of science -- of understanding root causes -- is much harder:  It lies with tasks such as disentangling different influences and seeing which ones predominate.  It's much easier to just tag journalists as "liberals" and then use everything they say anywhere to discredit their work on the job.

No single approach can tell us everything we need to know about media bias, but two recent studies done for  Fairness and Accuracy Inreporting (FAIR) give important indications.  The most recent study, conducted by Media Tenor, covered ABC, CBS and NBC network news in 2001.  It found that 92% of all U.S. sources interviewed were white, 85% were male and 75% were Republican, where party affiliation was identifiable. Corporate representatives appeared about 35 times more often than union representatives, 7% versus  0.2%.  I asked Noyes, "isn't this what really matters -- who gets used as a source, not what the reporter might think of them in private?"

But Noyes would have none of it.  According to him, the more often people appear on TV, the more often they're getting attacked.  If corporate representatives appeared 35 times more often than union representatives, it signals, "a lot more journalistic scrutiny of corporations, trying to bring corporate people into grill them, and give them a hard time".   Pity the poor white male CEO.  Network TV news, it turns out, is conspiring on behalf of Native American working women, whom it never puts onscreen.

Noyes was equally dismissive of another FAIR study, reviewing the Nexis database for major papers and broadcasting transcripts for 2001.  It found over 25,823 citations for the 25 leading think tanks, of which 48% were conservative, 36% were centrist, and 16% were progressive or left-leaning.   Suddenly, Noyes became quite concerned about mixing together news and opinion, "You have editorials mixed in with news product, you have transcripts, you have hearing testimony, you have a great number of things that would not classified as news," he complained.

But unlike MRC, FAIR never pretended it was only covering news.  Also unlike MRC, FAIR isn't mixing in websites with network news.  Nor is it picking and choosing, or judging items subjectively.  It's presenting a comprehensive snapshot of all citations in the same media outlets. Think tanks want to get their views out on opinion pages and programs, just as much as they want to be in the news -- and FAIR was measuring their success.  If liberals really dominate every aspect of journalism, the results would be predictable: an overwhelming dominance of liberal think tanks.  Finding the opposite is strong evidence against MRC's claim. But not for Noyes -- and he doesn't even need to look at the data in order to reject it.

His master-stroke is to ask how FAIR categorizes the Brookings Insitute.  "Centrist," I tell him.  "I would consider Brookings a liberal think tank," he replies -- as if his opinion were a matter of fact.  And that's that.

When I asked Michael Dolney, who did the study, what evidence he'd use, he quoted from his 1998 report, "Brookings has long had a centrist or center-right orientation. As far back as the mid-1980s, Fortune magazine (7/23/84) was approvingly noting that 'Brookings Tilts Right.' Current president Michael Armacost was undersecretary of state in the Reagan administration and President Bush's ambassador to Japan. Brookings' two most prominent analysts served in Republican administrations. Their most visible foreign policy expert, Richard Haass, is formerly of George Bush's National Security Council. Domestic political analyst Stephen Hess helped edit the Republican platform in 1976, and served in the U.S. delegation to the U.N. under Gerald Ford."

I had only mentioned "a President who was a Nixon Administration official" to Noyes, and he brushed me off, saying, "I think Nixon has a number of liberals in his Administrsation.  He was the one who appointed Harry Blackmun to the Court, if you recall."  I got his message: I've made up my mind, don't confuse me with the facts.  So FAIR, Nunberg, Sommersby and I -- and anyone else with half a mind to -- can do all the statistical analysis they want.  The MRC and it's legion of followers will wave us off with a sniff, and go right back to fondling their trinkets of "bias," their precious bits of glass mistaken for diamonds.

Don't believe me? Here's the worst, most biased piece of hard news reporting according to MRCs panel of judges:

"The U.S. is actually the least generous of the industrialized nations. In Sweden, a new mother gets 18 months of maternity and parental leave, and she gets 80 percent of her salary for the first year. Mother or father can take the parental leave any time until a child is eight. England gives 18 weeks maternity leave. For the first six weeks, a mother gets 90 percent of her salary from the government and $86 a week thereafter.  German women get two months of fully paid leave after giving birth. The government and the company kick in, and either parent has the option of three full years in parental leave with some of their salary paid and their jobs protected."  -- Peter Jennings, April 19 World News Tonight, following a story on a study showing more aggression in children who attend day care.

That's it.  The crown jewel of liberal bias.  A rare bit of comparison showing how much better families are treated by European welfare states.  Me, I think it's conservative bias every time a conservative rails against the welfare state, and the media doesn't set the record straight by reminding us what a real welfare state looks like.  Reality, you see, is strongly biased to the left.  Every once in a while, someone in the media notices this.  And that's when conservatives really start to howl.  


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can you relate this (0.00 / 0)
to current events?

well on a basic level (0.00 / 0)
it means that people who are "left" in the United States need to think not just in terms of operating within the framework of institutions of power (political/cultural/social), but having an analysis of how they operate, controlling them, and eventually subverting their structure to move them to a different end (and ideally a different structure).  If that doesn't have ramifications for how you approach the Obama / Clinton race, I don't know what does.

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All You Have To Do Is Look At MRC's Latest (0.00 / 0)
They have a number of different things they do, but there's a 30-Day archive that brings it all together, so you can see what they're up to.  The lead items (all that are shown on the archive page) on both March 6 and March 7 are attacks on the media for criticizing Rush Limbaugh.

This is a clear example of how the right fights an integrated war, though in this case it shows how the structural "war of position" is used to wage an ongoing tactical "war of movement". (In Gramsci's orginal formulation, the "war of movement" was limited to the final stage, when the workers accomplished their proletarian revolution.  But movement conservatives, far more realistically, integrate the two seamlessly, because they can.)

One doesn't even have to look at the details to see how this works--in fact one can easily get too caught up in details.  The big picture here is that Rush Limbaugh is a pure propagandist, whose rise to prominence was entirely depedendent on Reagan's destruction of the Fairness Doctrine.  This enabled the rise, not just of Rush, but of an entire genre of rightwing attack radio, which had no fealty at all to the standards of journalistic objectivity, or even procedural balance.  Rush is the great sacred cow of this movement, and whenever he is threatened, the entire rightwing ediface is potentially available for his defense.  MRC is part of their frontline defense when he is attacked, and these alerts are classic examples of that.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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fairness doctrine (0.00 / 0)
I actually don't support the fairness doctrine. The whole concept seems unsupportable to me from a logical standpoint. It presumes that there are exactly two sides to every issue. I think that in practice, as delivered by our existing corporate media, the two sides we would be presented with would be center right vs. far right. The real issue is media ownership. As long as all mass media are controlled by wealthy elites, all news and analysis will be biased toward their interests. The real solution would be serious anti-trust legislation. I don't think there should be any restrictions on newspaper ownership, as that is a case of potentially unlimited bandwidth. TV and radio station ownership, however, should be severely restricted. Newspaper owners should not be allowed to also own TV or radio stations. No one should be allowed to own more than one TV or radio station. No one should be able to own both a TV and a radio station. A company that owns a TV or radio station should be limitied to that business (i.e. no defense contractors owning networks, etc.) Diversity is the key to fairness, not some artificial notion of "two sides" of an issue.

As to your whole Gramscian stategy, I think it is crucial to think through a way to fight the right's Gramscian successes without embracing methods that are incompatible with liberal ideas of true functional democracy. In a way, the internet has delivered a very practical solution to this dilemma (Thank you, Al Gore.) Is it enough? I don't think so. But I am wary of hierarchical institutions as part of a liberal democratic strategy.

miasmo.com


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You Are Exhibit "A" For How The Right Is Winning The Gramscian War (0.00 / 0)
There are all sorts of subjects on which progressives (as well as "progressives") spout rightwing talking points, using rightwing frames, employ rightwing rhetoric or the like, and this is one of them.  Let's look at how this applies in this case, which is largely a result of corporate propertarian (aka "libertarian") ideology, though miasmo shows little sign of embracing the ideological orgins.

Most significantly, there's the total misrepresentation of the issue.  The Fairness Doctrine was a means of ensuring diversity of views on controversial subjects.  It was not perfect, by any means, but it did serve as an absolute bulwark against the creation of propaganda organs using public property (the airwaves).  In contrast to this historical reality, we get this typical piece of propertarian sophistry:

The whole concept seems unsupportable to me from a logical standpoint. It presumes that there are exactly two sides to every issue.

In stark contrast, Wikipedia explains the historical context and realword significance that actually informed the  Fairness Doctrine:

The Fairness Doctrine was introduced in an atmosphere of anti-Communist sentiment in the U.S. in 1949 (Report on Editorializing by Broadcast Licensees, 13 F.C.C. 1246 [1949]). The doctrine remained a matter of general policy, and was applied on a case-by-case basis until 1967, when certain provisions of the doctrine were incorporated into FCC regulations. [2]

In Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U.S. 367 (1969), the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine in a case of an on-air personal attack, in response to challenges that it violated the First Amendment. The case began when journalist Fred J. Cook, after his publication of Goldwater: Extremist of the Right was the topic of discussion by Billy James Hargis on his daily Christian Crusade radio broadcast on WGCB in Red Lion, PA. Mr. Cook sued arguing that the FCC's fairness doctrine entitled him to free air time to respond to the personal attacks. [3]

Although similar laws had been called unconstitutional when applied to the press, the Court cited a Senate report (S. Rep. No. 562, 86th Cong., 1st Sess., 8-9 [1884]) stating that radio stations could be regulated in this way due to the limited spectrum of the public airwaves.[4]

However, in the case of Miami Herald Publishing Co. v. Tornillo, 418 U.S. 241 (1974), Chief Justice Warren Burger wrote (for a unanimous court), "Government-enforced right of access inescapably dampens the vigor and limits the variety of public debate." This decision differs from the previous in that it applies to a newspaper, where there is no limit on the number of possible newspapers.

Clearly, the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine has resulted precisely in the institutionalization of a discourse of one-sided personal attacks that was once an egregious exception.  This is the historical reality, and the fact that miasmo completely ignores that reality, and uses an ahistorical "logical" rhetorical framework to frame his objection is testimony to the incredible pervasiveness of rightwing memes that is a direct result of the interlocking institution-building that is the very subject of the diary itself.

Miasmo then goes on to argue:

The real issue is media ownership. As long as all mass media are controlled by wealthy elites, all news and analysis will be biased toward their interests. The real solution would be serious anti-trust legislation./blockquote>

Of course, I'm all in favor of that.  But to argue for a single solution, in an historical vacuum is an incredibly weak position in any political battle.  One wins battles by bringing people together and blending different historical forces, arguments, and traditions, not by isolating oneself.  Strategic isolation is what one wishes to impose on one's enemy.  When one imposes it on oneself, one is truly one's own worst enemy.



"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I get your point, but... (0.00 / 0)
I sincerely believe that you are mistaken when you ascribe my reasoning to some internalization of rightwing frames. I have heard the arguments from Limbaugh and other rightwingers against the fairness doctrine, and I don't remember hearing any of them claiming it was bad because the corporate media would simply "balance" an extreme right position with a center right position. Noam Chomsky has made the case that within the corporate media ecosystem the "liberal" perspective serves effectively as a limit to acceptable discourse i.e. excludes any speech at odds with elite class interests. What the fairness doctrine guarantees, and in fact did deliver historically, is the range of elite opinion. Working class voices are excluded, and we are supposed to be content with the balance and "fairness" of it all. Pretty thin gruel.

I think that the internet and the policy up to now of net neutrality, which has effectively bypassed the corporate gatekeepers and brought a tidal wave of diversity to our political discourse, has done much more for our side than the fairness doctrine ever did. I was around when the fairness doctrine was in force, and I just don't remember anyone on TV ever questioning the existence of the military/industrial complex or challenging the elite consensus in any way.

It seems to me that, with continued net neutrality and meaningful breakup of media conglomerates as I suggested, the fairness doctrine would be pretty much unnecessary. Also, judging by emails to the FCC, the breaking up of media conglomerates would have substantial public support from grassroots liberals and conservatives. The trouble is getting elected officials to support it. They know that if they do, they will receive unflattering coverage from the corporate media. That is a real problem. But I personally feel much more comfortable advocating something I feel 100% about, rather than something like the fairness doctrine, which, while it might be better than nothing, I feel is kind of lame and really have intellectual problems with. I really appreciate your writing and perspective, but I think it's kind of crappy of you to dismiss my opinion on this by sliming me as some kind of unconscious right-winger.  

miasmo.com


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I Didn't Say You Got It From Limbaugh (0.00 / 0)
But you're taking his side, anyway.

You're also taking the Ralph Nader approach, of advancing purity to destroy all realistic chance of interim gains.  Just because the Fairness Doctrine didn't deliver Nirvana hardly makes it useless.

One of the main points that citation of Chomsky obscures is that (a) Chomsky is very much focused on foreign policy, where elite opinion is highly cohesive, and sharply at odds with mass opinion--a configuration that has traditionally not been the case on domestic matters, where elite divisions frequently have more overlap with mass divisions, and allow even more divisions to come to light, and (b) domestic policy has become much more similar to foreign policy since the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine.

The Fairness Doctrine was not the only reason for this, of course.  But it was a powerful enabling reason.

Bottom line:  Your proposed approach would do nothing to break up the conservative propaganda machine that uses our airwaves to spread their poisonous hate-filled ideas.  That alone is sufficient reason to reject it, regardless of everything else.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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My main point is (0.00 / 0)
that media ownership is the root problem. The fairness doctrine only treats symptoms. You may be right that bringing back the fairness doctrine would be helpful. I just can't personally get worked up over it, for reasons already stated. Sorry for being Nader-esque. By the way, you have a much better point with your accusation of Nader-esque purity than your accusations of right-wing brainwashing. Sorry, it's just how I feel about it. I figured a site like this is the place to discuss such differences. Don't worry. I'm not going to write the FCC or Congress opposing the fairness doctrine. I just think the ownership issue is the more basic problem.

miasmo.com

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But Media Ownership Was Much More Diffuse In The Past (0.00 / 0)
And it was still owned by members of the elite.  Ownership concentration just meant it was owned by fewer of them.

Furthermore, the spread of rightwing talk radio preceeded the intense concentration under the 1996 Telecom Bill by a good half decade, at least.

So, I'm curious about the FTL causal mechanisms involved, if you'd care to enlighten me.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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"FTL" (0.00 / 0)
Sorry. Unfamiliar term. What's FTL?

miasmo.com

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Faster Than Light (0.00 / 0)
Dude!  I thought you were a geek!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I'm a nerd. (0.00 / 0)
I'm too old to be a geek. Unless by geek you mean someone who bites heads off chickens. In that case I'm too young.

miasmo.com

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good the enemy of the perfect. (0.00 / 0)
But Media Ownership Was Much More Diffuse In The Past And it was still owned by members of the elite.  Ownership concentration just meant it was owned by fewer of them.

I acknowledge that the end of the fairness doctrine allowed Limbaugh and his clones to happen. But without the fertile ground of an elite owned media, I doubt conservative talk would have totally dominated without meaningful competition from any liberal talk. And in the age of the fairness doctrine, the media still primarily functioned as elite propaganda, even if ownership was more diffuse in some ways (although it was also less diverse - three major networks plus the not yet significant CNN.)

Also, in general I see talk radio as just one piece in the Gramscian war of position and movement that you describe. In isolation, I don't see it being nearly as effective as it is in coordination with the other pieces of the VRWC. Having said that, I concede your point that, given the media landscape as it exists, the fairness doctrine is better than nothing. Also, I think that, although it is far from intellectually satisfying to accept tepid center right moderation as the "balance" to rightwing extremism, it is legit to demand at least this feeble approximation of "fairness" over public airwaves. I am not feeling 100% on this, but I think you have sort of turned me on this basic point. I just hope that a reinstatement of the fairness doctrine is not seen as a substitute for serious ownership reform. I don't want the good to be the enemy of the perfect.

Thanks for the discussion. I may get my feathers ruffled, but a good argument helps to think things through.

Still don't know what FTL means.

miasmo.com


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You Still Don't Get It (0.00 / 0)
I've never conceeded--nor does history reflect--that "balance" will come in the form of "center right moderation."  You have simply asserted this, as if assertion made it so.

Nor have you explained how reducing ownership concentration will magically deliver broadcast licenses to the working class.

Pixie dust, anyone?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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The audacity of pixie dust (0.00 / 0)
I've never conceeded--nor does history reflect--that "balance" will come in the form of "center right moderation."

I am basing this on too things:

Noam Chomsky's work showing that the range of  political thought allowed in broadcast media is generally limited to the range of elite political opinion

and

my own hazy personal recollection of life before the end of the fairness doctrine. Over the years, I have been exposed to political thought outside the bounds of center-right elite consensus, but none of that exposure has ever come through a TV or radio (except for one local community radio station that runs Democracy Now.) It all came through personal contacts and print media.

You are right that reducing ownership concentration will not magically deliver broadcast licenses to the working class. I do think that it would be a big deal to lower the requirement for broadcast ownership from billionaire to millionaire. I think additional steps would be great: More bandwidth reserved for community stations, not segregating them at one end of the dial with classical music and Christian stations.

Aside from all that, I think the most important thing is to protect net neutrality. At least there is one medium which is mostly an even playing field.

miasmo.com


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But If You Realize Reduced Ownership Concentration Isn't A Magic Bullet (0.00 / 0)
then why continue to insist that the Fairness Doctrine not be part of the menu of reforms?

Original argument:

(A) will not do it, we need (B), not (A).

New argument:

(B) will not do it, we need (B), (C) and (D), not (A).

My point is that none of these options is really all that effecive in isolation, and thus we need all of them and more.

As for Chomsky, his analysis is almost entirely based on foreign policy coverage, which is subject to a very different set of constraints than much of domestic policy.

Furthermore, my experience of radio was quite different from yours.  Yes, Pacifica Radio played a very important part.  But so did Les Crane, an in-your-face liberal talk radio host on commercial radio out of San Francisco on KGO.  And KGO's coverage of local news was not bad either.  In fact, with put-on artists Coyle and Sharpe and "Jazz with Zarathustra" KGO was a very interesting, engaging station for a young teenager in the early 60s.

But once the Fairness Doctrine was killed, rightwing talk radio invaded the Bay Area, even though the audience there was overwhelmingly liberal.  This happened well in advance of, and therefore independent of, the super-concentration of ownership in the late 1990s.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I guess you missed... (0.00 / 0)
this statement I made up thread:

I am not feeling 100% on this, but I think you have sort of turned me on this basic point.

Thanks to your persuasive arguments, my current opinion is:

(B), (C) and (D), AND (A) will all be helpful and should be pursued. I still think that while diverse media ownership (including class diversity) would make the Fairness Doctrine unnecessary, in the real world as it currently exists, the Fairness Doctrine would be helpful and would be more realistically attainable and is therefore worth pursuing. Also, given the advertising model of media revenue, diverse ownership alone would still allow bias to big corporate interests simply because they buy the most ads. So the Fairness Doctrine would not be completely moot even in the media ownership utopia of my dreams.

So are we in agreement that the Fairness Doctrine is desirable, but that broadcast ownership reform is also worth pursuing?

miasmo.com


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Yes, We Agree On That (0.00 / 0)
Though we still seem to disagree beneath the surface, in terms of how we get there.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Another Facet (0.00 / 0)
This seems to be another facet of the opposing worldviews of "liberals" and "conservatives".

The "liberals" are open to hearing dissenting voices and debating the positions of those they disagree with. They believe that the best ideas will triumph.

The "conservatives" believe that there are certain immutable truths (which, for some strange reason, change from time to time and place to place), and that there is no point in discussing them. The leaders tell the followers what to believe; any who question this authority are untrustworthy and are to be shunned, discredited, or ignored.

The same thing happens in the media. Those who are seen as supporters of the conservative creed are in the center of the political spectrum from their viewpoint, and, therefore, those in the center or the left are lumped together as "leftist", "liberal", or whatever the smear term of the age is.

There probably is some value in tracking media bias, as Media Matters for America does, but the best that can be hoped for is that some who are not firmly in the authoritarian camp can be alerted to their most outrageous statements. Winning over the thoughtless followers is hopeless.

Policies not Politics


Yes And No... (0.00 / 0)
Winning over the thoughtless followers is hopeless.

This depends on seeing them as a homogenious mass, much as they are taught to see "liberals".  But, in fact, they are not.  There is a hard core, to be sure.  But there's a large soft fringe, as well.  In fact, David at Orcinus has long argued that Limbaugh's most dangerous function is that of mainstreaming hard right memes, which depends on the fact that the mass of his audience is not already hard right.

So, there's real hope there.  Which you can see in occassional panics that set in when it looks like his base is unsettled by something beyond his control.

Nonetheless, I agree wholeheartedly with what I take to be your main thrust--that these should not be our primary concern.  It's just that I don't want us falling into their trap of thinking that any group is totally beyond reach.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Mindless followers (0.00 / 0)
I'm always amazed how often this line of thinking comes from liberals, as I consider it to be a very conservative concept.  Just as conservatives easily fall into the trap of believing all Arabs are terrorists who can't be negotiated with, we often find ourselves thinking the same way about conservatives.

That part of the human psyche that leads to conservatism is obviously in all of us.  It is something we must fight off in ourselves as well as in others.


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Which Is Why I Pointed It Out (0.00 / 0)
But I also know Robert well enough to know that he would make this vary same point himself in different circumstances.

There's quite a difference between falling into a flawed sort of shorthand, which is hard to avoid sometimes in the rapid back-and-forth of the online world, and basing one entire's worldview on a ludicrous presumption.

While it's certainly true that no one is immune to such thinking, it's equally true that liberals and leftists have historically fought against it on many different and diverse levels, whilst conservatives and reactionaries have built their worldviews upon it.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Details (0.00 / 0)
I didn't want to burden Paul's diary with the same old citations, but if you haven't seen this yet, have a look:

TheAuthoritarians.com

Psychologist Robert Altemeyer has spent 40+ years examining the relationship between those who willingly follow authoritarian leaders and their views on social issues. He finds a high degree of correlation between authoritarian followers and a conservative mindset. By his estimates this group is about 23% of the population and is (my term) "unreachable".

Paul and I are ignoring this group and have a slight difference on how to reach the more loosely affiliated. It would seem that it this moment many in this less commit sector are listening to other viewpoints.

Policies not Politics


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Limbaugh's function (0.00 / 0)
A couple years back John Conyers chaired a House hearing on media reform. I listened to the whole thing, and only one thing stuck in my head:

One of the speakers was a young dude who was some kind of a bigwig at the newly formed Air America. He describe the conclusions of a study of the effects of conservative talk radio. Now you might suspect that the main effect would be to convert liberals into conservatives, but that was not what the study concluded. There were two major effects. One was to fire up conservative listeners and make them more politically active and engaged. They would be more likely to call or write their elected officials. They would be more likely to argue politics with their friends and coworkers. The other big effect was to do the opposite to liberal listeners. They became more apathetic and politically passive and less likely to engage in political arguments with friends, family, and coworkers.

So it seems to me that converting conservatives into liberals is not the only way to fight back. Pumping up fellow liberals and arming each other with intellectual firepower while dispiriting conservatives by relentlessly calling out their illogical and contradictory bullshit can be quite productive.

miasmo.com


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Academia (0.00 / 0)
I know that conservatives believe their think tanks are just a response to liberals controlling academia, particularly at the university level.  On this front, I tend to agree with them.  (Though I went to the very liberal U.C. Santa Cruz, so I may be biased on this.)

How do you think liberal academia plays into the big picture?


Have You Been To Business School??? (0.00 / 0)
This argument is a ludicrous joke, just like virtually everything in the rightwing "intellectual" arsenal.

The social sciences and humanities are dominated by liberals because reality has a well-known liberal bias.

(It's the business schools and economics departments where one can see real selection bias in action--and there are heavy conservative orientations as a result.)

There's not a whole lot of creationists winning Nobel Prizes, either.

The bottom line is that academics operate via peer review.  This doesn't ensure against error, but it does ensure against both eggregious error and repetitive error.  In contrast, nothing better typifies rightwing think tanks than their propensity for repetitive eggregious error.

As an indicator, compare Charles Murray (The Bell Curve and Jim Sidanius (Social Dominance).  It's like comparing Bozo the Clown to Albert Einstein.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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So why meet them head on? (0.00 / 0)
Seems to me that it is better to render the institutions of right-wing hegemony irrelevant than to attempt to replace them outright.  Remember that they created those institutions by following the Gramsci analysis and strategy, and you're "reinforcing failure", trying to win back the ground the New Left lost, using the same tools and tactics that failed them.

And keep in mind that eventually, you have to create a "New Right", a sane, honest version of the conservative philosophy that can act as an opposition.


This Is A Joke, Right??? (0.00 / 0)
Please tell me it's a parody of 16-year-old Obamaphiles you know from personal experience.

Please!  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Which part? (0.00 / 0)
That the institutions of hegemony you speak of were subverted over the course of 30 years, and that it would be neither easy nor neccessarily possible to reverse that process in a significantly shorter timescale?  Or that the Progressive movement needs an intellectually and morally honest "New Right" that acts as a brake on the potential excesses of the left?  The first is obvious, the second is inescapable.

The game is rigged, but you want to keep playing by the same rules?  Or just re-rig it so your own are on top?


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The Idea of "Rendering Them Irrelevant" Rathat Than Replacing Them (0.00 / 0)
How, exactly, are we supposed to do that?

With pixie dust?

Or by clicking our heels together three times?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Maybe you're soaking in it (0.00 / 0)
For someone who spends so much time on the internet, on a site called of all things "Open Left" as a deliberate effort to invoke a rejection of the New Left (who failed, badly) and an embrace of "crowdsourced politics", you would think you would see the obvious: Crowdsourcing is all about finding "good enough" solutions to problems.  It eschews propaganda and broadcast models of information spreading in favor of participatory culture.  And it operates on a scale far faster and potentially larger than the right can even dream of.

Consider: It took 30-40 years for the neo-cons and religious right to go from being a handful of fringers mumbling about how the country was going to hell, to having a president openly pushing their agenda.  The netroots in general may manage that same trick in 10.  If the "progressive" movement hasn't come along for the ride, that's mostly because it doesn't have a coherent agenda to be pushed.

Win the "war of ideas" by having some new ones, and compelling arguments for using them.  Let the new media do what it does so well: Spread those ideas, and improve them.  Accept the traditional media and think-tank model as both lost to you (since you can never hope to outspend the corporate right), and obsolete, and work to accelerate that obsolescence.


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For Such A Gung-Ho Advocate Of All Things New (0.00 / 0)
you show a remarkable propensity to project old-style assumptions into things you read.

I said nothing at all about the specific institutional forms I was advocating for, yet you assumed that I assumed that all we had to do was imitate the right exactly and we'd be all set.

Typical!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Typical (0.00 / 0)
Then stop obsessing about how the right conquered the institutions of hegemony and move along already.  What replacement institutions do you propose, and how would their ascendance not equate with my "render irrelevant" argument?

I'm hardly a pure neo-phile.  But I recognize a rigged game when I see one.  If the ground you stand on won't, can't, deliver a victory, time to look for a different battlefield.  Isn't that the core of the netroots doctrine?  Stop fighting the last war politically, with a 50%+1 focus where we can simply get hammered into the ground by lies and money, and take advantage of numbers and 1 to 1 communications to make the battlefield everywhere?

The right's ascendance is built on lying convincingly.  Change the environment to one built on the pursuit of truth and genuine (rather than astroturfed and purchased) consensus, and the battle is more than half won.


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Not Much Point In Talking To You When Your Minds Is This Closed (0.00 / 0)
Who said anything about a 50%+1 focus?  Who said anything about the whole vein of stuff you're spewing?

As for this:

The right's ascendance is built on lying convincingly.  Change the environment to one built on the pursuit of truth and genuine (rather than astroturfed and purchased) consensus, and the battle is more than half won.

As George Lakoff has argued repeatedly, and Glenn Smith and I argued again on this site last weekend, this is based on an a view of human nature and human cognition--an ancient view, really, but most recently refurbished in the 18th Century Enlightenment--that is simply, factually wrong.

Not that fulfilling your perscription would be a snap--even with a metric ton of pixie dust--if your assumptions about human cognition were correct.

I swear, it's like there's two different people inside your skin.  One's really tuned into specifics, and carries on very reasonable--often insightful and informative--conversations.  The other is just high on rhetoric, bombast, and baseless generalities.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I'm schizophrenic (and so am I) (4.00 / 1)
Consider me the master of cognitive dissonance.  I can honestly argue from several different premises in several different directions, confident that in the end I'll reach some sort of synthesis.  I don't have an interior dialog, I have an interior dialectic.

Actually, if you want my view of cognition in a nutshell, it's this: People are not on the whole rational creatures.  They don't generally make logical decisions through a conscious thought process, they rationalize choices they've already made at the lizard brain/mammal brain level so they can feel like they actually made a choice.  Only when equipped with a whole host of intellectual tools and freed from visceral threats do most people exhibit true cognition.  Very rare are the people who can really think in the presence of threat or opposition.  Some can't even in comfort and safety, and many more are vulnerable to false invocations of the survival imperatives.

Most people follow the herd, and in a broadcast world that means whoever controls the media controls the message and therefore gets to act as the shepherd.  This maps well with corporate and congregational models, so it shouldn't be a surprise that they have come to dominate the old media.

To replace these institutions with new ones built on the same model would grant only a short-term, tactical victory.  What I think we can agree on is that we need institutions that are structurally immunized from such capture.

Bombast, rhetoric, and persuasive but baseless generalities are the enemies you need to defeat at an intellectual level, and then find a way to conquer at the visceral level that most people do most of their "thinking".  If I can tie you in knots of confusion while just trying to challenge you, how are you going to do that in the face of active opposition?


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P.S. (0.00 / 0)
Just so you understand where I'm coming from, back in 1988, I proposed to Jeff Cohen, founder of Fairness and Accurary In Reporting (FAIR), that FAIR develop a Hyper Card-based media-tracking system that anyone with a Mac could contribute to.  PeaceNet could be used to exchange data, and thousands of activists could have been engaged in media-tracking, analysis and activism in local markets.

Never happened, of course.  But sometimes when you're railing against old fogies you really ought to figure out where they're coming from and what they're saying before you try tossing them on the dustbin of history.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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