Cultural Hegemony and The Conservative Living Constitution

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 20:16


One reason the 2008 election is vitally important can be summed up in two words: Global warming.  Another reason can also be summed up in two words: Supreme Court.  I hope to write about global warming as well this weekend, but this diary is about Supreme Court.

Both, however, have the same underlying theme: while winning the 2008 is vitally important, it is necessary, but not sufficient. Indeed, neither global warming nor the Supreme Court should be the real focus of our attention, as they are but the most prominent outer manifestations of larger systemic struggles.

What is really needed is a much more sweeping and fundamental reshaping of our collective thinking--and that can only come about through a reshaping of our public institutions.

A couple of weeks ago, law professor Jack Balkin wrote a very significant post on his Balkinization blog, The Rise of the Conservative Legal Movement-- An Exercise in Living Constitutionalism, which revolves around a couple of very significant points: (1) despite the rhetoric of  "original intent" as revolt against the liberal approach of the "living constitution," what the conservatives were doing was creating their own version of the living constitution. (2) What's involved in doing this is very much an example of a Gramcian "culture war" or "war of position," (though Balkin doesn't call it that) which I have discussed on various previous occassions.  This involves graning control of cultural institutions-either by takeover of existing instutions or creation of new ones-which in turn results in systematic and interlocking redefinitions of funamental assumptions.  It means, quite simply, a struggle to redefine what is thinkable.

As Balkin explains:

Tomorrow I'll be speaking at the American Enterprise Institute at a panel jointly sponsored by AEI and Brookings on Steve Teles's wonderful new book, The Rise of the Conservative Legal Movement: The Battle for Control of the Law....

Teles's book is important in many respects; indeed, it is likely to become the standard history of the rise of legal conservatism. For me what is interesting is the light it sheds on how living constitutionalism actually works, in this case, living constitutionalism from the right.

That may sound strange given the familiar associations between conservatism and originalism, but in fact conservative legal thought is a major contributor to the living constitutionalism of the present generation. Originalism and a call for a return to origins was one of the tropes that conservatives, like many other social and political movements before them, used to persuade people to reform constitutional law.

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Next, Balkin says something that's a little complex-perhaps more complex than he realizes:

What conservatives were doing, in effect, was to try to persuade people-- and courts-- to keep the interpretation of the Constitution in sync with changing values-- in this case, conservative values. These values came into dominance as a result of Republican electoral successes, but also, as Teles details, through creating a conservative counter-establishment outside of electoral politics and in civil society. Obviously, many conservative arguments (made sincerely, I do not doubt) were for a return to the older, "correct" readings of the Constitution, but the actual effect of the practice was an exercise in living Constitutionalism.

What Balkin doesn't say-and may not even realize-is that the "changing..conservative values" he is talking about were not the values of society at large. Indeed, there has been very little overall change in values over the past 30 years, beyond a general liberalization of views around race, gender and sexual orientation.  What has changed, dramatically, is the elite-dominated political culture, and a good part of that change consists of highly ideological institution-building.

Balkin continues, highlighting the fact that what is involved is considerably more wide-ranging than simply packing the federal judiciary:

You can read Teles' book as a partial critique of Sandy Levinson's and my theory of partisan entrenchment, which argues that constitutional change comes from successive appointments in the federal judiciary, reflecting the vector sum of political forces at the time of appointment. Teles point, which I think is correct, is that it's not enough to appoint new judges and Justices. You have to have a sufficient stock of potential judges and Justices who agree with the aims of your movement that you can appoint. Equally importantly, you have to do work on the "supply side" to provide a litigation support structure that can bring cases before the courts you staff. And you have to do considerable groundwork to contest and change the legal culture so that conservative ideas previously considered "off the wall" get a fair hearing and can be thought of as "on the wall." That's particularly important for a professional culture like that of the law, because professionals generally don't like to be thought of as irresponsible, eccentric or out of the mainstream.

What Balkin is talking about here is the manifestation, within the legal profession, of what Antonio Gramsci called cultural hegemony, as Wikipedia explains:

Although the analysis of cultural domination [hegemony] was first advanced in terms of economic classes, it can be applied more broadly. Gramsci's analysis suggested that prevailing cultural norms should not be viewed as "natural" or "inevitable". Rather, cultural norms - including institutions, practices, beliefs - should be investigated for their roots in domination and their implications for liberation.

Gramsci did not contend that hegemony was either monolithic or unified. Instead, hegemony was portrayed as a complex layering of social structures. Each of these structures have their own "mission" and internal logic that allows its members to behave in a way that is different from those in different structures. Yet, as with an army, each of these structures assumes the existence of other structures and by virtue of their differing missions, is able to coalesce and produce a larger structure that has a larger overall mission. This larger mission usually is not exactly the same as the mission for each smaller structure, but it assumes and subsumes them. Hegemony works in the same manner. Each person lives their life in a way that is meaningful in their immediate setting, and, to this person the different parts of society may seem to have little in common with him. Yet taken as a whole, each person's life also contributes to the larger hegemony of the society.

The crucial distinction between this explanation and what we are seeing today is that Gramsci was describing the hegemonic power of a pre-existing bourgoise culture that did not need a conscious overall strategy.  What we have witnessed over the past 30-40 years is a very deliberate rightwing war of position in which conservatives have had a tremendous advantage precisely because they were very clear about the ideological pupropses of the various institions and how they fit together, while liberals and moderates were not.

From here, the conclusion of Balkin's post reads like a direct application of Gramsci's theory:

Thus, you needed to create a series of institutions that would help reshape professional culture and civil society, including the creation of conservative think tanks and conservative public interest law firms, the funding of law and economics programs in the legal academy, and the promotion of networking organizations like the Federalist Society. All of these programs had to be funded by patrons to see which ones worked and which ones didn't, and the patrons had to continue funding the successful programs over long periods of time. The liberal legal culture that conservatives objected to didn't arise overnight, and the conservative counter-establishment didn't either.

Balkin's last statement is both true and misleading.  Though both processes took place over time, liberal legal culture took much longer to develop, and it was primarily driven by the need to respond to reality-based problems.  Conservative legal culture grew much more quickly, much more deliberately, and much more as a result of a pre-determined ideological agenda. Those differences remain in place today, and they continue to debilitate the possibility of an effective liberal response.

So, yes, we need to win the next election to save the Supreme Court from a total takeover by rightwing extremist judges.  But we need much, much more than that as well.  For one thing, we need to recognize that we are at war.  How anyone could miss that fact after the utterly lawless Bush v. Gore decision is utterly beyond me, but somehow this basic fact has yet to sink in.


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Excellent work, Paul. (4.00 / 2)
We have been at war for a long time.

It's not just a "cultural war," as Obama and his fans suggest.  It is a class war.  

Since the early 70s, the wealthy have been suceeeded in overturning the mediations created by New Deal compromises in capitalism.

Paul Krugman's book shows the results well.  Class stratifcation.  


"Culture War" INCLUDES Class War (4.00 / 4)
What Gramsci means by "culture war" is something deeper than a battle over abortion or gay rights.  It's a war over control of the basic institutions that define the culture--including the ones that can even make something like "class war" thinkable or unthinkable.  Thus, "culture war" is not some sort of alternative instead of class war.  Indeed, it explains how we've had a one-sided class war for the last 30-40 years, where only one side is fighting.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Culture War doesn't include Class War.. (4.00 / 3)
so much as it supplants it.  The term "Culture War" can be sold to the masses.  "If you vote for a liberal, then you're gay."  The term "Class War" puts the top 2% at a large numerical disadvantage.  

As you mentioned in your post:

What we have witnessed over the past 30-40 years is a very deliberate rightwing war of position in which conservatives have had a tremendous advantage precisely because they were very clear about the ideological pupropses of the various institions and how they fit together, while liberals and moderates were not.

It is extremely easy to present a clear, united front when policy is determined from the top/down.  The conservative "movement," legally and otherwise, has always been a money movement directed by the highly concentrated wealth in this country.

I believe it was Galbraith who said:

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

The social issues, I believe, are of secondary importance to the sole objective:  keep the wealthy powerful, and further enrich the powerful.

Roe v. Wade and the Texas sodomy case are nothing but tools in the drawer.  The only real issue for conservatives remains money.

Great post, Paul.  Thank you.


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Why doesn't culture include class? (0.00 / 0)


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If I understand correctly (4.00 / 1)
(always a big if) what's happening is a war of the top 2% against the rest of us.

However, it is not purely a class war in that the 2% have drafted people from outside their ranks to help them, using the signifiers of culture to draw them in.

So that's the sense in which it's a culture war, because it's being fought with the weapons of culture, even if the only beneficiaries of this war are the class which started it.

Montani semper liberi


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Rakove (0.00 / 0)
I liked Jack Rackove's 1996 book "Original Meanings", which talked about the general impossibility of defining "original intent" in the first place, given the legislative back and forth process at the Constitutional Convention that gave rise to the Constitution.

I hope some prominent Democrats step up to take this battle head on, but I'm not optimistic. Too many continue to behave as if they think the conservative opinion is a logical one.


Yes, This Is A Rather Obvious Point (0.00 / 0)
But, of course, a rigorous argument for an obvious point can have tremendous value.

If folks are even aware of it.  And that's the main problem.  We don't have instutions that spend their time and energy propagating these ideas.  And that's what we're desperately in need of.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Anyone? (4.00 / 1)
I can't think of a single prominent individual in the Democratic Party that challenges original intent on its merits. Are you aware of any?

I had looked forward to reading Justice Breyer's book, and it wasn't bad, but I thought it was tame.


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I Don't Know Of Any (0.00 / 0)
But I'm not expecting for that to come from party.  It has to come from elsewhere before it will be picked up in the party.  That's just the way things work.  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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ACS? (0.00 / 0)
Perhaps the American Constitution Society could help?

http://www.acslaw.org/

http://www.acslaw.org/c21/cons...



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Very interesting post (0.00 / 0)
I wonder what aspects of social/cultural/political hegemony are the result of self-organizing behaviors and not the product of some kind of centralized "think tank" planning? And, are Liberals so different from Conservatives that the methods employed by the Right may not even be possible (or desirable) on the Left?  My guess is that any strong ideology enables a great degree of self-organizing without loosing the general trajectory of the political agenda. The Left does not have a strong ideology at this time. While I am inherently distrustful of ideological movements-left or right-it may be the most effective organizing mechanism available.

Neither, Really (0.00 / 0)
Hegemony is commonly more a product of polycentric entrainment.  But there's a wide range of difference possible in terms of how many different centers, how much some are more dominant than others, how intentional the linkages are, etc.

As for liberal/conservative differences, yes, of course there are some things that would be ruled out.  Liberals would never publish something like The Bell Curver, for example.

The meaning of the term "ideology" is sufficiently ambiguous that it's rather hard to respond precisely to your speculation.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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The Left does have a strong ideology. (4.00 / 1)
It's the same one we have always had. It is that radical idea that people are entitled to have a say in the decisions that affect their lives.

The premises of Liberalism are expressed beautifully in the preamble to the Constitution, and they are in direct conflict with Conservatism, which is the rule of the elite.

That's why we're in this war.

Montani semper liberi


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Agreed but... (0.00 / 0)
I agree that is a strong ideology if we actually follow it and build upon it. It has not been at the forefront of Democratic politics for some time since the Party was co-opted by narrow interest groups and lobbyists. Liberals allowed this to happen. The result is the erosion of liberal ideals in the institutions of government--and everywhere else for that matter. If I understand correctly, this post asks whether the Left can use the argument of original intent to help rebuild a hegemonic position for its ideology in all necessary institutions. To rebuild you have to first admit you have lost position.  

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How can anyone not recognize it? (4.00 / 3)
Isn't that what overtone window is about? I just got through discussiing this over at Ezra Klein. There he mentions Yoo of Boalt who is the tentured law professor who actively aided Bush in the torturer of detainees. What becomes unthinkable or unimaginable becomes within the realm of possibility by changing the definitions of what is acceptable. One thing I didn't mentiont here, and why i remain skeptical, is that I think pandora is already outside of the box. The problem, as I keep saying, is the American people. In this case, they don't understand their Constitution, their government or their rights. I keep returnin to the poll done in 2004 of high school students (I believe through scholastic) about whether they would give up their right to speech, and what were the reasons. Most said they would. Most of the reasons were flimsy. I saw this also when discussing equal protection analysis. Many do not, even if they call themselves, liberals, understand the concept. THey think of it as a construction fo what hte majority wants, when in fact its meant to protect us against the tyrannyof the majority. My point in short is how can you change a culture that doesn't even understand the system in which it is supposed to act if its definitions are so far skewed that the discussion must first start with the most basic concepts? So, now , even knowing the purposes- as you say we need to- do we really understand them outside of conservative built frames?

Yes, It's Overton Window Stuff (4.00 / 1)
Although the way the Overton Window is classically explained invovles policies arrayed along a single dimension.  This makes sense for a relatively ideologically simple and coherent entity, such as a libertarian conservative think tank.  But once you start mixing different flavors of conservative ideology, it immediate gets more complicated.  So it's a valid reference point, but it can only imperfectly model what's going on in at a higher level of generality.

As fot your concerns about people not understanding our system of government.  The good news is bad news--this sort of appalling ignorance is, unfortunately, nothing new.  It may be worse right now, but it's never been terribly good, that I am aware of.  And yet, we've maanged to resist this in the past.  The key, I think, is the strenght of various institutions that help resist it.  And this is what we've not been doing a good job of--nurturing and sustaining such institutions.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Undermining elites (0.00 / 0)
What has changed, dramatically, is the elite-dominated political culture, and a good part of that change consists of highly ideological institution-building.

This is a revealing point. There is an alternative or addition, perhaps, to an effort at winning a war of position among elites. That would require translating popular values into policy -- the traditional definition of a "strong democracy."

We have to have the institutional weight to press our ideas and values, regardless of the theatre of conflict. However, some gains can be made by eliminating barriers that stand between the popular will and government policy-making.

Of course, some of those barriers have been reinforced by the conservative legal effort and its influence of the courts.


Bush V. Gore (0.00 / 0)
Speaking of barriers, just take a look at Bush v. Gore, and then at all the voter-related machinations that we've seen since then.

At the same time, the Democrats generally have let themselves be intimidated around the broader issue of fundamental rights which the Bush Administration has been rolling back under the rubric of "fighting terror".

There is, I would argue, a tremendous potential to reverse this whole dynamic, as even a fair chunk of conservatives, much less moderates, is fundamentally opposed to all this.  But there's a very real elite/mass disconnect here, or maybe even a much narrower political elite/everyone else disconnect. So the challenge is, how do mobilize this broad opposition and bring it to bear?  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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80% (4.00 / 2)
Recent polls show that 80% of all Americans think the country is headed in the wrong direction.

As everything starts to fall apart at the seams, and the demogoguery and pandering of the presidential candidates is exposed for the lies on which they are based, broad-based popular political opposition and the seeds of revolt are bubbling up from the grassroots.

People may not be able to grasp the roots of what went wrong or the deliberate efforts of the wealth-backed conservative movement to create a cultural and institutional hegemony to mask the class war that is destroying America, but they know viscerally when they have been ruined financially and economically by these institutions.

All that we need to turn this revolt into a full-fledged assault on the pseudo-democracy that has taken over are courageous political leaders who are willing to carry the torch at the ballot box. There are and will be plenty of them in due time once the 20 somethings who are witnessing the current meltdown of American society get old enough to take over the reins of government and kick these rascals out.


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Lincoln as an example (4.00 / 3)
Lincoln as a first class lawyer deliberately attacked the pro-slavery legal arguments head on using what seems to me to be original intent.  

He had several strong arguments.  The biggest was the Northwest Ordinance that organized the territotial governments of the then midwest to purposely exclude slavery even before the Constitution was written.  Since that was left in place, it was obvious that the framers practically recognized the ability, right, and power of the federal government to restrict slavery.

I daresay that the language of the Declaration of Independence and the practice at the time of the revolutionary war hardly can be read as an encouragement to the legalization of torture.  The treatment of American prisoners of war on the "prison hulks" in New York harbor was vigorously protested at the time and that was inhumane but far short of (for example) water boarding.

A real problem within constitutional law based on original intent is that neither the police, nor a large scale prison system, nor corporations existed.  

Both the Cooper Union presentation and Lincoln's first innaugural address were attacks on some of the legal theories of the day.  So was a lot of the content of the Lincoln Douglas debates.  A full out attack on the rights of "wealth" as "free speech" and the rights of corporations seems not only appropriate but long overdue.

Lincoln defended the right of labor unions to strike.  He may have been the only President before Theodore Roosevelt to do so (I am not sure if he was elected or was running for the office at the time).  There is a rich legal heritage that goes well beyond "the founders."  The "conservative" positions are clearly and consistently based on more rexcent legal developments rather than any version of orogonal intent.  

So yes, it is our time to shred their arguments and propound our own.


Well Said, David (4.00 / 1)
Reactionaries are routinely enamored of a past that never existed.  This is as true of their legal theories with their mythic, and highly selective invocations of original intent as it is with their fundamentalist religions.  

We need to realize that the Bush v. Gore decision was, quite simply, a criminal act, a lawless power grab that both revealed the conservative legal movement as a hollow fraud--precedent, schmecident--and that established a criminal regime that has gone on to attempt a fundamental reversal of the core principles on which our nation was founded.

The extent of lawlessness embodied in the Bush Administration is something so vast that the Democrats seem incapable of grasping it. They're like a beat cop enountering a bank robbery, who doesn't know what to do because the thiefs aren't stealing the money from the bank, they're stealing the whole building.  They simply have no framework for grapsing what is going on.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Beg to differ: (0.00 / 0)
Paul writes:
"The extent of lawlessness embodied in the Bush Administration is something so vast that the Democrats seem incapable of grasping it. They're like a beat cop enountering a bank robbery, who doesn't know what to do because the thiefs aren't stealing the money from the bank, they're stealing the whole building.  They simply have no framework for grapsing what is going on."

This might, charitably, have been true at the very beginning before the breath-taking scope and scale of the Bushevik coup was revealed and its outlines were known. It has since become obvious to anyone with sentience equivalent to that of a sea cucumber that the Bushevik mandate was always to weaken, attack, subvert, undermine, and diminish ANY instrument or institution of democratic self-governance that might in ANY way impede the dominance of the global, corporatist state.

Since then however, no small number of "Democrats" have been willing, even enthusiastic, participants in the continuing criminal farrago. So that now, they cannot put impeachment on the table without compromising some of their very own membership, many of who are extremely powerful and influential. The Dems have been no impediment; they have in fact in many cases cheerfully colluded with the Pukes in the "Mierdification" of the Constitution. They don't want to rein the PUKES in, because they want to assume those powers and perqs themselves.

Which is to say, less charitably: Bullshit! They've grasped it all to well, and tacitly or explicitly approved most of it. The agenda of BOTH parties (qua 'parties') is the same: globalized, corporatized, authoritarianism. They only differ in the means they're willing to employ to achieve those ends.


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Not Exactly (0.00 / 0)
Sure, the Democrats have been spineless wimps.  We all know that.  But it's also the case that they really don't grasp the enormity of what's going on.  I know it seems impossible, but they really just don't get what's going on.  They think we can relatively easily return to "normal," as if such a thing even existed anymore.

If the Democrats really were no different from the GOP, there would be no such thing as Joe Lieberman.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Interesting (0.00 / 0)
I have found the debate around constitutional intent to become less interesting the more one studies the constitution.  This may have been result of being taught Con Law by someone who was both a liberal and an interpretivist (Archibald Cox).

The simple truth is that of course the intent of the founding fathers matters when interpreting the constitution.  But that intent is often of little value in deciding some of the more difficult constitutional issues today since they involve matters that the framers would never have considered.


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Beyond that! (0.00 / 0)
Not only that, but the framers were not complete idiots, and certainly didn't expect that the legal system in 200 years later would be controlled by their "intents." Many of them intended something along the lines of a living constitution. Jefferson went much farther; he thought we should just hold constitutional conventions every so often.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.

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Moreover, Balkin Himself Argues For Intentional Lattitude (0.00 / 0)
Balkin argues that the framers often used intentionally broad language, precisely because they intended to provide space for ongoing constitutional constructure by future generations.  And not just the framers of the Constitution, but the framers of the 14th Amendment as well, for example.

On this, see his most recent diary, "Framework Originalism and Skyscraper Originalism", in which he writes:

Skyscraper originalism views the Constitution as more or less a finished product (albeit always subject to later Article V amendment). It allows ample room for democratic lawmaking to meet future demands of governance, but this lawmaking is not constitutional construction. It is ordinary law that is permissible within the boundaries of the Constitution. Framework originalism, by contrast, views the Constitution as an initial framework for governance that sets politics in motion and must be filled out over time. The goal is to get politics started and keep it going (and stable) so that it can solve future problems of governance. Later generations have a lot to do to build up and implement the Constitution, but when they do so they must always remain faithful to the basic framework. Put in terms of Article V, skyscraper originalism views amendment as the only method of building the Constitution, while framework originalism sees a major role for constitutional construction and implementation by the political branches as well as by the judiciary.

What does this distinction have to do with my theory? Well, in the past few years I've tried to outline a theory of constitutional interpretation that is both originalist and supports the notion of a living constitution. I argue that original meaning originalism and living constitutionalism are not only not at odds, but are actually flip sides of the same coin. I call it the method of text and principle. The basic idea is that interpreters must be faithful to the original meaning of the constitutional text and to the principles that underlie the text. But original meaning is not the same thing as the original expected application of the text. The latter is merely evidence of how to apply text and principle. Each generation is charged with the obligation to flesh out and implement text and principle in their own time. They do this through building political institutions, passing legislation, and creating precedents, both judicial and non-judicial.

I argue that this approach follows from paying attention to the reasons why constitutional designers choose particular language. Sometimes drafters choose to express themselves in clear rules, creating hardwired features that are relatively determinate. Sometimes they use standards, and sometimes they articulate principles. These standards and principles can be broad, vague or abstract. Then we have to implement them through practice or through precedents. And sometimes the drafters of a constitution deliberately say nothing at all about a particular issue.

I argue that the choice of rules, standards, principles, or silence is not accidental. Adopters use rules because they want to limit discretion; they use standards or principles because they want to channel politics but delegate the details to future generations. They leave things silent for any number of reasons: because certain matters go without saying because they are implicit in the structure of the constitutional system, because the adopters could not decide among themselves how to resolve a particular issue and therefore handed the problem off to the future, or because the adopters simply wanted to leave space for later generations to build up institutions.



"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Years ago on DKOS (4.00 / 1)
I wrote a comparison of the religious right and the cultural revolution in the aftermath of the Russian Revolution and the  Chinese Cultural Revolution.

Both of the cultural revolutions focused significant energy on purging the professions of those whose views were not sufficiently consistent with the party line.  This is same thing that organizations like the Federalist society are about.  In fact you can have some fun comparing quotes from Lin Bao to speeches by some of the Federalist Society leaders.  

Now you can go too far in the comparison - I don't think the Federalist Society is planning on forming firing squads - but the principle is still the same: ideological conformity is everything.

If you push the thread father, you actually start to see a similarity between the Federalist Society and some on the Left.    Each regards every instance of human expression, be it in the arts or music or literature as a political act that must be evaluated for political correctness.  


How DARE You Not Post A Link! (0.00 / 0)
Dude! Emily Post Modern is soooo going to bust you for your lack of netiquette, getting us all hot and bothered with your tantalizing description, and just leaving us hanging with no place to go!

p.s. It was Newt Gingrich who said, "Let a thousand flowers bloom!" wasn't it?  And Tom DeLay who said, "So I can spray them all"?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Was it Gramsci who remarked to the effect that no hegemon had to worry (0.00 / 0)
about controlling what people think, as long as they control what people can think about? Can you say "Info-tainment"?

This has been the outline and working manual for the rise and complete domination of the USer propaganda/public relations state (they are functionally indistinguishable, the mention of which fact got me rejected for a job in a J-School with a big PR Dept one time) over the last century of so...


That's DIS-Info-Tainment To You, Buddy! (0.00 / 0)
Just so's we're "perfectly clear."

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Not sure that you know what you're talking about. (0.00 / 0)
This is patently false:

What Balkin doesn't say-and may not even realize-is that the "changing..conservative values" he is talking about were not the values of society at large. . . .What has changed, dramatically, is the elite-dominated political culture, and a good part of that change consists of highly ideological institution-building.

Let me be charitable and assume that the second sentence is true--that the elite political culture changed in part through ideological institution building.  That alone does not demonstrate that the values of society at large have not changed. In fact, it is quite likely that the construction of ideological institutions has lead to a change in society at large.

Less charitably, you're making a false consciousness argument--that all those dumb fuckers living in squalor out in those areas of the country where you would never think of traveling are being tricked into voting the wrong way.  To that end, you really don't know what you're talking about.


Look In The Mirror, Dude! (0.00 / 0)
(1) I write based on data, not fantasy or supposition.

The most comprehensive source of long-term US polling data, the General Social Survey, along various other sources, shows very little change in values over the long term.  There are modest cyclic fluctuations, but these tend to even out over time.

(2) I'm not making a false consciousness argument in the way you describe.  The contempt you alude to is all your own.  I have argued many times against such view.  I believe (and have data to support me) that people are fundamentally rational, it is the system in which they are embeded that is not.  They are simply doing the best they can in an increasingly toxic environment.

What I wrote was a criticism of the system, and you are the one who automatically misconstrues it as a derogatory insult to "all those dumb fuckers living in squalor out in those areas of the country where you would never think of traveling."

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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That's cute, Paul (0.00 / 0)
I write based on data, not fantasy or supposition.

I don't see any cites.

What I wrote was a criticism of the system

Exactly what system were you criticizing?  This doesn't even apply to the section of your text that I pulled out.  If it did, you would have to be saying that despite what people valued, the system in the United States works such that it produced conservative outcomes.  This is silly.  The system has produced conservative outcomes because people are voting for conservatives.  Now, those voters have either embraced those values or have been convinced to support them in any case.  In the first case, they actually believe--their values are different.  In the second case, they have been tricked into voting for something they don't believe in.

Despite what the GSS may say, we have been living through a period of conservative dominance in our politics.  You may have misunderstood what Balkin was saying.  I'm guessing you're not lawyer, because his argument is rather well known to most people who have attended law school.  The argument goes that the Constitution remains responsive to contemporary legal problems because judges are political appointees ultimately gaining access to their positions from electoral victories.  "The Supreme Court follows the ballot box," as the saying goes.  What Balkin is talking about, then, is not "changing conservative values"--hell, that's not even what he wrote--he's talking about changes in electoral victories.  

What he wrote was, "to keep the interpretation of the Constitution in sync with changing values--in this case, conservative values."  What he is talking about is a broad shift in political support from liberal positions to conservative positions.  He's not trying to suggest that conservative values are changing but rather that the Supreme Court is ultimately democratically responsive.  

And that undermines your entire "criticism of the system," if we can call it that.  You're "criticism" is something about how conservative elites are forcing their agenda on the country through ideological institution building.  Balkin's point is that this is democratically based--that it's not being driven by elites but by voters.  

In any case, you make a pretty obvious error with regard to the term "values" when you simply assume that what Balkin intended is what is measured by the GSS.  Assuming your argument is even based on the GSS, you have chosen to operationalize in a specific way without trying to figure out if it was the right way.  


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Only A Lawyer or A Republican... (0.00 / 0)
I'm guessing you're not lawyer,

Correct.  Which is why I would never write the following with a straight face:

What Balkin is talking about, then, is not "changing conservative values"--hell, that's not even what he wrote--he's talking about changes in electoral victories.  

What he wrote was, "to keep the interpretation of the Constitution in sync with changing values--in this case, conservative values."

Big picture:  The main thrust of what Balkin is doing in this post is actually significantly acknowledging an important amendment to his previous well-known argument.

This shift acknowledges the importance of institution-building beyond the scope of merely winning elections, and that's precisely the nature of a Gramscian culture war.  And despite your lawyerly hair-splitting, Balkin was retaining the claim that values were changing in a conservative direction.

However, what GSS--along with other long-term data series--shows is that no such shift occurred.  What did occur was a shift of white racists--primarily in the South--from the Democrats to the Republicans, beginning at the presidential level, and then trickling down over time.  This sorting of voters produced an effective electoral shift, but this electoral shift had no foundation in a broader shift in values.

Indeed, the racists who left the Democratic Party, beginning at the presidential level in response to Nixon's Southern Strategy, have subsequently softened their racial attitudes, and younger Southern whites Republicans who followed their lead are even less racist in classical terms, although "racism without racists" remains endemic among them.



"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Well THIS (4.00 / 1)
dumb fucker living in squalor in an area of the country where you would never think of traveling has not been tricked into voting the wrong way.

Nice try, though. The pseudo-populism of the Right served them well for a long time, even if it was always a load of horseshit. Thank God it is finally being unmasked!

Montani semper liberi


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