Does Petraeus Endorse Endless War, 100 Years in Iraq?

by: Matt Stoller

Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 16:09


He doesn't outright endorse 100 years in Iraq, unlike John McCain, but anything but endless war is irresponsible.

Bayh, a potential vice presidential nominee, said he did not want to get "sucked into the presidential campaigns," but went on to ask Petraeus to give the American people a general idea of when troop withdrawals can begin.

"Is it just impossible to offer any rough estimate?" Bayh asked, in the four-and-a-half-hour hearing's final volley.

Petraeus, as he did earlier, staunchly demurred. He said it was "flat-out not responsible to try to put down a stake in the ground" and estimate when troops could begin leaving Iraq.

Max Berman notes.

Petraeus and Crocker have no problems projecting out the potential implications of leaving Iraq - but they refuse to make projections of what staying will look like. That double standard is absurd. Is there a strategic plan for our presence in Iraq? If so what? The answer is pretty clearly no. They have no end game. There is no exit strategy. The Bush/McCain/Petraeus/Crocker plan is simply to stay and to stay a very very long time in the hopes that things slowly get better.

Petraeus won't even firmly assert that our presence in Iraq is making us safer, though he basically says he thinks it is.  I've heard from a bunch of military folks that he has to believe his strategy is working, that it's just leadership to be optimistic and can-do.  But Petraeus isn't being optimistic, he's just waffling and avoiding questions.  It's dangerous that Petraeus has put himself in a political role while in uniform.

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This seems key: (0.00 / 0)
"There is still no exit plan."

good frame; anything but endless war irresponsible (0.00 / 0)
THAT will force any American to pause, maybe even a granite headed conservative.  I also thought Levin finally got a good point in where he said "you(Petraeus) offer a plan with no end at all"
Surprisingly, Bayh's grilling got pointed.  The WH award ceremony thing was a slick move, the MSM is so hopelessly stupid, and the WH knows it.

Hope Is Not A Plan (0.00 / 0)
But endless war (aka hopelessness) apparently is.

Who knew?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Boxer should have held up the pic with Maliki and Amedinajacket (4.00 / 1)
Mr. Petraeus can you explain this picture?  Especially the holding hands part?  Were Iranian missles showering the Green Zone on this day?

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Boy Howdy! (4.00 / 1)
That really would be "must see TV."

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Did you hear a col. died in the green zone? (0.00 / 0)
me niether

http://www.al.com/news/huntsvi...

now you do.  


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he also (0.00 / 0)
when asked, refused to say that it is possible to be reasonable and disagree with him.  At least, that's the way I heard it.
 

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

"Bayh, a potential vice presidential nominee" (0.00 / 0)
Good God, on what planet?!

Well, You See (4.00 / 1)
He would reassure all the mediocre white guys that even with brilliant black guys like Obama, and tough, competent women like Hillary around, there's still plenty of room for their modest talents at the top.

After all, countless decades of Hollywood movies just can't be wrong.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Correction (0.00 / 0)
He would reassure all the mediocre white guys that there's still plenty of room for their modest talents at the top as long as they have connections through accomplished relatives.

It's all about the nepotism.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.


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Ah, Sam,,, (0.00 / 0)
You're no fun.  Now you've gone and spoiled the dream!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Hillaryland (0.00 / 0)


John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

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