And we begin...liveblogging ABC's This Week. Happening now!

by: AdamGreen

Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 10:01


[10:00am] This Week with George Stephanopoulos begins now. The big guest: John McCain. Let's begin. All times below are EST.

[10:02am]  Question 1 - John McCain's temperment on front page of today's Washington Post...former Republican Senator Bob Smith says he isn't qualified to be president. Hmmm...

[10:03am] McCain says he "gets angry" and "passionate" when the government has bad policies. A take-off on the ole' "What's your greatest strength and greatest weakness" interview answer.

[10:04am] Question 2 - The economy. Not sure what the question was, just "Talk about the economy" I think.

[10:05am] McCain attack number 1 - on Obama. Obama wants to raise taxes. And then says both Dems want to raise taxes.

[10:06am] Question 3 - How is a Medicare premium increase different from a tax increase? McCain: "It's going to be an increase in their payments, sure." "We have a trillion dollar unfunded liability associated with Medicare." And Iraq?

[10:07am] Question 4 - With your policies, you won't be able to balance the budget right? McCain: Of course I can. You can "scrub every agency of government." "Hundreds of billions can be saved."

[10:08am] George: Every estimate I've seen says only 18-20 billion. And will you cut military housing? McCain: "Of course not."

[10:09am] Question 5 - You're going to have to make deep cuts across the board to reach your projections. Are you really going to do that? McCain: Bashes wasteful spending. No mention of the math not adding up.  

[10:10am] Question 6 -- If Congress does not give you the kind of spending cuts you want, will you hold off on signing tax cuts? McCain: No!  Also first instance of him calling George "My friend."

[10:11am] Question 7 - good tax questioning. You used to say Bush tax cuts offended your conscience. What's up? McCain: "It's not taxes, it's spending that's the problem."

McCain lie unchallenged. McCain says he opposed Bush's tax cuts because there weren't spending cuts. George moves on to next question instead of pressing the offending the conscience part.

[10:12am] Question 8 - health care. McCain: "Obama and Clinton's plans are big government solution." aka My plan: do nothing.

[10:14am] Question 9 - Hmm.... George says Elizabeth Edwards says McCain has govt healthcare, why shouldn't all Americans get that quality health care. McCain calls it a "cheap question." Then says there was once a time when he didn't have great govt health care, but it wasn't our govt. Unexpected POW reference...hmmm...

[10:16am] Question 10 - Obama and Ayers. McCain attack number 2 -- says Obama was wrong to defend an unrepentant Ayers, and to compare him to Coburn. WILL GEORGE ASK HIM ABOUT HAGEE, ETC?

[10:17am] Question 11 - Obama disagreed with him. McCain: "He disagrees, but will he condemn?"

[10:17am] Question 12 - George asks about Hagee! Do you condemn? McCain: "Sure" Wow! This could be the big news. Though later he says he's proud of the endorsement, I think...will have to see the video.

[10:19am] Question 13 - Iran.

[10:21am] Question 14, 15, 16 - Iraq. No real hard-hitting questions. Pretty much, "Please talk about Iraq."  

[10:24am] "If we can keep these casualties down" Americans are ok staying in Iraq. Interesting -- not "no casualties" -- just keep them down...for 100 years?

[10:25am] Question 17 - Age

COMMERCIAL BREAK: Ok, there's breathing room for my critique now. I usually wouldn't have done question-by-question like that, but felt it was important for comparison to Wednesday's debate. Good transcript here.  Seems like the Hagee condemnation could be big news. Seems like progressives could actually make a big deal out of his "keep casualties down" in Iraq standard for staying in Iraq...he first said "Americans care about casualties, not our presence" which is his justification for 100 years. But keeping casualties down times 100 years is a lot of casualties.  Media should start asking him: How many casualties per year are you willing to accept for 100 years, or are you promising zero casualties?

Also, a big story could be the seriousness of his questions to McCain, and even deference when asking about Hagee, compared to the "gotcha" tone and substance of Wednesday's debate.

[10:32am] Observation. Bad roundtable. George Will, Cokie Roberts, Sam Donaldson. Prepare for a combination of right-wing talking points and stale conventional wisdom from circa 1984.  Where's Donna? Katrina? EJ? Robert Reich? David Sirota?

[10:36am] Cokie: "I know you and Charlie are taking some heat, but the facts are these are types of questions that will come up in the general election." Ugh. Flag pins. Flag pins. Flag pins. Where is her flag pin?

[10:37am] George Will does what Dems should do...given a conversation about distractions he brings back the topic he started with: taxes. "Let's get back to capital gains taxes." Cokie and Sam have no idea what's happening...where is our progressive voice?

[10:38am] MoveOn comes up. George Will says her distancing herself from MoveOn is more validation for his long-running (and incorrect) premise that "America is a center-right country." Where is our progressive voice? Where is Sirota or Rachel Maddow? This is ridiculous.

[10:41am] Sam Donaldson tries to take on McCain's straight-talk image. Good for him. Unfortunately he does it with talk about "aggregate profits" for corporations...real emotionally compelling stuff.

[10:42am] Cokie on a president who promises change: "How? And why?" "The notion that some president is going to come and change everything is absurd." WHY IS SHE ON TV?

[10:45am] Blah. Blah. Blah. Discussion of McCain's age...George Will says we have an old country and age is fine...Sam Donaldson says people like irrational tempers. Man, I love "experts."

[10:46am]Cokie reveals the president invited her to ride in his limo with Jenna and Laura...and how he marveled at the Pope's morals, etc...pretty much, "Here's the story Bush wanted me to tell, so I'm telling it."

NOT A SINGLE PROGRESSIVE POINT OF VIEW WAS EXPRESSED IN THIS ROUNDTABLE. We heard over and over again that we live in a center-right country, and got a bunch of Republican talking points on taxes, with no rebuttal.

Interesting sidenote. A commercial, which I usually tune out, caught my attention. "Yes, we are an oil company...not corporate titans, but people who try to find newer ways to power the world." ABC Sunday morning chat with no progressive voices...brought to you by Big Oil.

Ok, so...the show's over. I'm pumped up and pretty disgusted...mostly by the fact that there was little news coming out of the McCain interview (unless we make a big deal out of the McCain "keep casualties down" line) and the roundtable was so rigged.  Usually, my inclination when pumped up like this is to blog about it...but...kinda already did that so....what now?

Well, for starters, if you haven't already signed the MoveOn petition to ABC, please do. It's over a quarter-million and growing by the minute. Whatever the final number is will be reflected in an ad this week.

Aside from that, anyone want to see the McCain "lower casualties" Iraq clip?

AdamGreen :: And we begin...liveblogging ABC's This Week. Happening now!

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Tax Cuts and Reduced Gov. Spending (0.00 / 0)
John McCain seems to think that tax cuts and reduced gov. spending are the answer to everything.  He sounds like the prototypical GOP Candidate.  If he were to become President, we should all chant, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss".  

health care (4.00 / 2)
I wonder why McCain said the health care question was a "cheap question" - maybe the list he was given of the questions beforehand didn't contain that one.

also (0.00 / 0)
Adam, maybe you could add some of your own critique?

is mccain (4.00 / 3)
wearing a lapel pin?

from what I understand (4.00 / 1)
He was literally wrapped in the flag. I also hear he wears Superman underoos.

[ Parent ]
I'm Glad You Asked That, Mike (4.00 / 2)
Actually, McCain's body has been infused with millions and millions of tiny flag lapel pins, using the most up-to-date nanotechnology on earth.  So he is, quite literally, a walking flag lapel pin.

Mere mortals can only stand in awe and gape!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
The 1960's (4.00 / 1)
Honest question -- McCain sure wanted to talk about Billy Ayres, it looks to me like he is running the well-worn Republican play of running against the 1960's.  Before they are done they will portray Obama as an acid dropping bath averse draft dodging flag burner, will it work?

Obama as an acid dropper, etc. (0.00 / 0)
Not if anybody does the numbers. Obama isn't McCain's age or even Hillary's. Was he even alive in that era?

[ Parent ]
The Ultimate Draft-Dodger (4.00 / 3)
Born in 1961, Obama spent a good deal of the 1960s babbling to himself, crawling around like a baby, speaking gibberish, or playing childish games.  He notoriously shirked all manner of adult responsibilities.

Above all, he avoided the draft by the clever ploy of being at least a decade too young.

They're going to crucify him!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Sorry, Adam (4.00 / 2)
But there are no prominent progressive criminals of comparable stature to George Will.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

Reading this was much better than watching (0.00 / 0)
I'll never watch an ABC news production again.  But I liked reading about it here, much less painful.

You;'re welcome... (4.00 / 1)
Glad I could absorb the pain for you. :)

[ Parent ]
absorbing the pain (4.00 / 1)
Plus I didn't waste 58 minutes of my life!

[ Parent ]
Ai Gawd! Am I ever glad I didn't watch n/t (0.00 / 0)


What about FEC? (4.00 / 4)
not a word about his noncompliance with FEC law?
the republican candidate is currently in a state of breaking federal campiagn finance law, and george asks no questions about that?
outrageous!

Totally (4.00 / 1)
There were so many missed opportunities here, it's ridiculous.


[ Parent ]
His abuse of financing laws should be a deal-breaker (0.00 / 0)
People can disagree about wearing flag pins, disagree about being in Iraq one year or 100 years, but there is nothing ambiguous about his aggressiveness with public finance laws.  

And such abuse when running for an office when the duty is to enforce laws.  

And it's his own law that's being abused.

[Shake head]

Politically, I hope that this is a sleeper issue that will finally raise its ugly head about the time of the Republican Convention.  (I suppose that when he's certified as the nominee then the issue reaches a new stage.)


[ Parent ]
Apparently (0.00 / 0)
Such things do not concern Matt Drudge.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
Great job (4.00 / 1)
I hate to say this, but the best summary of the morning talk shows on the web is what the guy at redstate does. This is better than what he does.

Adam (0.00 / 0)
You know it's a problem so please, please try to get MoveOn to help out. Media Matters has shown the conservative leanings of the Sunday shows but the mass-membership of MoveOn could help put pressure on those shows. I would be amazing seeing Sirota or Maddow on those shows. But we need to put some pressure on them.

Great liveblogging BTW.

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power


Sirota or Maddow? (0.00 / 0)
They are unknown and considered in the AA farm league. Perhaps in time.

Clinton in '08. Or give Carter a 2nd term. Vote for Obama!

[ Parent ]
According To WHOM??? (0.00 / 0)
People come out of nowhere in the media world all the time.

Are we to trust the gatekeeping judgement of those who crowned the current crop of clowns?

Pu-leeze!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Yes, it does happen. But it is rare. (0.00 / 0)
Very similar to NBA. You have to be a superstar. These two are not.

Clinton in '08. Or give Carter a 2nd term. Vote for Obama!

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BAD Analogy (0.00 / 0)
In the NBA, superstardom is based primarily on talent, a basically objective measure that one can see reflected in stats.

Nothing remotely similar obtains in the world of punditry.  Virtually all of them are spectacularly wrong virtually all of the time about virtually everything that matters.

A random number generator could not just get to the punditalkcrazy finals, it could win repeatedly so many times it would make the Jackson/Jordan era Bulls look like the 1980s Clippers.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Thank you Adam (0.00 / 0)
I really appreciate that you watched the drivel since I just can't risk getting an upset stomach so early in the morning.

And you did a great job! There just aren't any progressive voices anywhere on TV with the exception of occasionally MSNBC and I just can't see what we can do to change things.  


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