Core Dilemmas of Comunity Organizing: Fracturing Across Lines of Race and Class

by: educationaction

Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 21:33


(Another installment in this excellent series. - promoted by Paul Rosenberg)

Externally, community organizing groups split the world into an always flexible "us" and "them."  Until fairly recently, the group I work with, at least, didn't look very closely at the internal fractures we had across boundaries of race and class.  However the social and cultural power of privileged and less privileged members can create destructive patterns if they are not dealt with directly from the beginning.

In my limited experience in Wisconsin with CHANGE--a congregational organizing group that is a member of the national National Organizing  network--I have watched a range of race and class issues emerge that were not dealt with effectively.   (Later I'll talk about how intermediary organizations like National Organizing work with local groups).  

From what I have read elsewhere (see also this and this ), a reluctance to focus specifically on race and class in favor of more pragmatic and general visions of "self interest" and coalition building has been a problem with mainline community organizing groups more generally. This has led to the development of new groups outside of the larger national groups that deal more directly with issues of racial identity, nationalism etc.  More recently, I know that groups like National Organizing have begun to address these issues more directly, but since my participation has been mostly limited to local work in our education committee, I am not a part of these wider discussions in the network.

Those new to these posts may want to read Part I and Part II of "What is Organizing?"  See the full series here.

educationaction :: Core Dilemmas of Comunity Organizing: Fracturing Across Lines of Race and Class
Let me stress that the story I tell below doesn't necessarily reflect the current perspectives of the organization I work with, that I call CHANGE, or the larger umbrella group of which it is a part, that I'll call National Organizing.  In the last few years I know they have begun to at least try to figure out how to address some of the core challenges I discuss.  However, I think the experience I describe is important to hear about, because it raises a range of difficult challenges that community organizing groups need to address.  There are organizations, like the Center for Third World Organizing , which have grappled with similar issues from the beginning.

In its early days, CHANGE was primarily made up of inner-city churches and the participants were mostly people of color. Shortly before I joined, however, the group decided that if they were going to have enough power to really make a difference, they were going to need to expand their membership to include churches outside the central city. Many mostly white middle-class churches joined.

What happened then will not surprise some readers. As the whites came in, the people of color began voting with their feet.

Ways of Talking
One key problem is that middle-class, white professionals have a fundamentally different discursive style than lower-income people of color. While this issue seems to be more about class than race, it is important to understand that being middle-class and black on the edge of the central city places one in a much more financially and culturally marginal position than is common among middle-class professionals, as Patillo-McCoy, among others, has pointed out. So even though, as I noted earlier , it's true that most members of congregational organizing groups come from middle-class mainline churches, what it means to be middle class, and how that links to particular discursive and cultural practices is much more complex than this observation might indicate.  (Also see this earlier post about social class and organizing.)

"We Didn't Mean to Take Over"
For a while I attended a mostly white and mostly upper-middle-class (in culture if not in $$) Unitarian church in the city, and as a part of a CHANGE effort, we mobilized a number of Unitarians to attend a talking session with some local school-board members. A number of black churches also sent members, and participants of color significantly outnumbered the number of whites. This larger group broke up into smaller dialogue groups to come up with issue to present to the whole meeting. As I looked around, I noted that nearly all of the groups ended up having a Unitarian as their note-taker and facilitator. So when the groups presented back, most of the presenters were whites. Afterwards, predictably, the whites wondered aloud why the people of color didn't participate as much as the whites, and the whites complained that they didn't want to take over.

This is an incredibly common outcome when privileged whites and less privileged people of color come together in dialogue. Eric H. F. Law found in his work with multicultural/multiracial groups that  "the white members of the group would disclose their insights and thoughts verbally and freely while the people of color would just sit and listen."  When whites work together with people of color who have been traditionally marginalized, white ways of speaking give them power and lead them to assume that their opinions are important and should always be heard.  Law argues that these and other issues often lead people of color and others to believe (often correctly) that their opinion is less valued by the group.  This often results in those with less social power becoming marginalized and ultimately leaving.

The powerful wonder, "why don't 'those people' talk?" And the less powerful don't feel welcomed and don't come back.

Ignoring the Problem Won't Make it Go Away
Although I haven't been to many large CHANGE events recently, I remember a few years ago going to training meetings and noticing that the number of participants of color was falling quickly.

At one point, a powerful black pastor (a former president of CHANGE) tried passionately to explain to a group of mostly whites at a training mostly populated by whites why "his people" weren't coming.  This also involved a lecture about the different ways his community was structured, and how they depended upon him to tell them where they should put there time, etc., but it didn't seem like others really heard what he was trying to say (and I'm sure I didn't totally get it either).  (Some of what he said relates to this earlier post about the different ways people from different classes tend to organize themselves.)

Until relatively recently, the National Organizing  was very reluctant to deal with these issues directly. In classic Alinsky-based organizing form (although there is evidence that Alinsky was more savvy than some of his followers) they tried to overcome these issues simply by finding common areas of interest that would allow different groups to come together on shared projects, making these other challenges irrelevant.  

A Lack of Workable Solutions to Inequality in Dialogue
There is surprisingly little in the literature about how to deal with the inevitable power differentials that emerge when privileged whites and less privileged people come together in dialogue.

Law's short book also indicates how difficult it can be to find effective procedures for structuring meetings that promote more equality in diverse settings.  And the particular solutions Law recommends seem inefficient for a direct action organization like CHANGE.  In leadership training, at that time, the National Organizing  tended to promote a very pragmatic and results oriented approach that would seem to conflict with the slower, more process oriented procedures recommended by Law.  

Many solutions involve highly trained facilitators or intensive training, but community organizing groups seem too fluid and resource limited to allow this to happen in most cases. It is also not clear what kind of training would be effective, "who" would need to be trained, or how long such training would take.  As Law points out, much of the inequality that arises in dialogue is unconscious and unintentional.  Our "internal cultures" as Law calls them, are difficult to change, since they arise out of the fundamental ways we understand and perceive our environments, as well as out of our inability to acknowledge the different levels of power and privilege we bring to the table.  This isn't about acknowledging our "internal racist" or something like this; it's about changing the very practices we use moment-to-moment to engage with other people.  Others may know of successful training efforts, and I'd love to hear about them.

Law came up with a process that seems to work for groups engaged in cross-cultural dialogue, but it seems to me and to other organizers I've talked with to be too cumbersome to work in action oriented settings like community organizing meetings.  CHANGE does not have time, for example, to operate like an "encounter group."  

The point is not that nothing works. Instead, except in exceptional circumstances, it may simply be too difficult to find procedures that will allow equal dialogue in such settings without prohibitive amounts of educational and facilitational superstructure. A couple groups may be able to pull it off, but it seems doubtful that a reliable model could be created more broadly.  The fact is that even though I know all of this, I often find myself butting in and interrupting as the white male that I am. I have had real trouble even training myself out of this.

One Possible Solution: Internal Representatives of Caucus Groups
There is some evidence from classrooms and elsewhere, however, that people from less powerful groups tend to feel more empowered if they participate in dialogue as representatives of external collectives. They come not just as themselves, but as representatives of the power of a number of people. (Of course, this idea fits quite well with more general organizing perspectives).

In CHANGE, I recommended at one point that we try to recreate a space or spaces where there aren't many privileged whites, where inner-city folks can build their own sense of collective identity and then send representatives to meetings with the larger organization that includes surrounding white churches. I actually wrote this up, exploring possible structures, checks and balances, that would insure that internal groups like this would not become marginalized.  I have also heard that there are other examples of organizations with a "black caucus" or "inner-city caucus" but I don't know the details.  For a range of reasons, this hasn't happened in CHANGE, but it seems like it might be a productive strategy.  

Hannah Arendt once argued that

power can be divided without decreasing it, and the counterplay of powers with their checks and balances is even liable to generate more power, so long, at least, as the interplay is alive and has not resulted in stalemate.

More than a few community organizing groups may be in the situation where the existence of a single overall organization inadvertently reduces opportunities for participation for all.  By creating internally differentiated groups, it might be possible to create space for more participation.  The problem faced by congregational community organizing groups, especially, is not that they lack potential participants, but they we lack enough people who have decided that they want to participate.  As Arendt noted, creating multiple arenas for participation-as long as they are planned carefully-may actually increase the power of an organization by drawing in members who might not otherwise be willing to participate actively in what they may perceive as unequal spaces.

This sounds nice in the abstract.  But does it work in reality?  I honestly don't know.  I'd be interested in hearing other people's experiences with a solution like this. There would certainly be difficult tradeoffs involved in creating artificial boundaries of some kinds within organizations like this.  

A Final Example
I vividly remember a meeting a few years ago attended by the head of National Organizing.  He stood in front of a large group of members, berating us for our inability to get as many people out as CHANGE had done in its early days. At no point did he point out that most of his audience was white, in contrast with the early days when almost everyone would have been black.

Astonishing.

(Next week: A Crisis? Privileged College Graduates Can't Find Low Paying Social Action Jobs.)


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In the San Francisco Bay Area, the Challenging White Supremacy workshop has had a considerable effect on the usually young, usually somewhat innocent, white folks who are getting their start as the staff of community organizations. This helps, though it doesn't reach the basic dynamic you describe.

Organizations out of the communities of color seem to need to find their own strength in their own communities and then can work in coalitions with white-run institutions. But folks need their own power base before they can do that without the people of color fading away, as you describe.

All that is easier to envision in California where no ethnicity/race has a majority.  

Can it happen here?


The Workshops Look Great (4.00 / 1)
I don't think that they get at the issues I'm struggling with.  The problem is less with "organizers" writ broadly, than with a wide range of leaders.  Can you really train a large number of people who tend to turn over about this?  Maybe.  I'd be interested to hear about large groups that have done it successfully.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)

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I agree with you about this (4.00 / 1)
What the CWS workshop has done is create an intermediate level of white staff people in various organizing roles who (sometimes) act in concert with staff of color to make sure people of color are heard/keep their own power bases. This helps.

It is a VERY laborious approach, but beats nothing.

And I do actually think that whatever training people are getting as they come into organizing is going to make an important difference in the future. The leadership folks at the core of current organizing networks came out of the 60s. We did really lousy with one intermediate generation -- they either became Reaganites or gave up on their bosses. The current staffs are the future of many progressive possibilities. Too many bounce out of organizing after running into rigidities (especially from the unions) or simply wanting a life. But they are the seed corn.

On which note, have you encountered the National Organizers Alliance? They don't do web stuff very well, but they've been important to building a better, anti-racist, staff organizing culture.

Can it happen here?


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Absolutely, training matters (4.00 / 1)
even just so that organizers realize that there is an issue, here.  And some of the issue will certainly be mitigated by better training.  

The solution you talk about seems to at least start to deal with some of these issues.  I can see how it would help (and how much work it would be).

I worry, however, not only that training won't really end up solving the real problem, but also that dealing with the problem in larger organizations may end up diverting them to internal process instead of external action (you can do both, but the internal stuff can trip up the external).  Middle-class professionals love their process, which can recreate the very problem I'm talking about in the guise of dealing with it.  

And I also worry about the regular folks who may only come to meetings once because they don't feel totally welcomed.

But we need to train organizers to deal with this stuff, regardless.  And leaders too--so they understand why there might be an issue in the first place.

I don't have much direct contact with the groups that are doing this, so I'm not the right person to talk about what kind of job they do.  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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We agree -- as usual (0.00 / 0)
Organizations shy away from doing explicit anti-racism work because it DOES tend to tie folks up in process and drive out folks who become active out of need. Who wants to go to another meeting? Especially if it is just middle class white folks spouting off about why they aren't guilty?

Yet the alternative doesn't work either. Again, I think the CWS model works in part because the endless (it is) processing happens in one locus and the work (acitivism) in another. And, at it's best, they don't conflate the two dimensions.

Very hard stuff, but not optional in organizing. The low wage and poor classes of the US are less and less white -- organizing has to find a way to work with multi-racial base constituencies.

Can it happen here?


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The problem is that you need this depth of resources (0.00 / 0)
to do something like this.  My bet is that only parts of CA, and maybe Chicago and NY have the kind of density of organizations and $$ to allow something like this to happen.  Where I am, you are never going to get enough resources to fund an whole organization working consistently on just these issues.  You can send people off to training, which is critical.  (I'm worried about the breadth and depth of training that generally infuses what passes for an ecology of organizing in my city, for example.)  But without such focused support, and without the guarantee that it will be maintained over time in a consistent manner, I think it makes sense to move to more structural solutions that don't depend on having this training to work.  

Furthermore, if I were going to recommend pieces of infrastructure support needed by organizing in Milwaukee, I would probably not start with a deep and expensive (in terms of resources) focus on inequality in interaction.  We need much more basic supports, as I've written in an earlier post, at least IMHO.  If a structural approach can help solve these issues, and/or make certain that they are brought front and center by empowered sections of groups when necessary, I'd rather go that route.  Of course, that's a privileged white guy's opinion--and I never mean to be in the position to "make" this decision myself "for" other people.  But I'm willing to bet that many non-white and/or non-privileged folks would probably agree with me that they'd rather not use what limited $$ might be available to them on educating people like me not to oppress them if we can find another way.  

Train organizers? yes.  You can't avoid it.  At least in the post-Alinsky model, their roles are just too critical.  Train the mass of leaders? Beyond pretty basic stuff it doesn't seem worth it.  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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See also (4.00 / 2)
Class Matters: Class and Community Organizing

and consider reading

Limbo: Blue Collar Roots, White Collar Dreams by Alfred Lubrano, which is not about organizing, but has a great deal of information about clashing blue-collar/white-collar work and communication styles.

(In fact, everyone connected to the Obama campaign should just read that book...)


Acting As Representatives (4.00 / 1)
I very much like the idea of minorities acting as representatives of larger constituencies, simply because I've seen examples of something similar to that.  Not so much within single entitities, but within more fluid coalitions.

Here in the southern part of LA County, people of color are a distinct majority, but it's still often the case that activists are disproportionately white, for a variety of reasons, including class and other forms of social capital.  But increasingly over the years there's been a recognition of the importance of supporting the emergence of minority activist voices, and of course, once that's actually realized we discover (gasp!) that there are some really incredible organizers out there.

There are a number of different examples I can think of, mostly having to do with environmental justice, or with low-wage labor organizing--or both.  Making the transition to creating similar relationships within a single organization should not be that difficult in principle.  But folks have to want to do it.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


I'd be interested in hearing about specific examples (0.00 / 0)
of groups that have done this.  I know of a group in Texas the Mark Warren wrote about that moved the other direction in an effort to eliminate internal fractures.  But much as I love his book (Dry Bones Rattling), I've always had the sense that the racial and class tensions were the least fleshed out parts.  

As with any general model, as we both know, it's always possible for a good abstract idea to be terrible in specific cases.  One could imagine "solving" some of the problem of inequality in dialogue, while actually creating more problems in terms of inter-group conflict depending on who the leaders are, how sophisticated the organizers are, etc.  I could imagine if groups were going to do this, it would help to have some research (case studies, especially) done on the kinds of problems likely to emerge, and the kinds of governance structures likely to mitigate them.  Maybe there are some, but I'm not totally up on the "lit" at the moment.

I actually imagined a more specific model for our organization, discussing how power might be distributed.  But even in that case I really don't know enough to say what the best route would be.  I'd have to go talk to a whole bunch of key leaders and they'd have to come together for dialogue, etc.  And this never happened around this specific idea.  So I didn't even try to lay something more specific out in this post, in the fear that someone might treat it like it had emerged out of more understanding than it did.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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A Final, Atypical, Example (0.00 / 0)
Not surprised that GG would be oblivious of those he was berating; that's his nature.  But not a good example of most organizers.

The problem was (0.00 / 0)
that in this case he seems to have been reflecting the view adopted by his entire network. Otherwise I really know him.  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)

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I meant (0.00 / 0)
I don't really know him.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)

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