Robert Fuller: An End to Inequality and Violence?

by: scheff

Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:10


(Another person's take on Robert Fuller's work on dignity and rankism, to start Sunday off on a high note. - promoted by Paul Rosenberg)

I didn't understand why I found Obama's race speech so moving until I read Fuller's comments on it. They seemed brilliant to me, so I proceeded to read Fuller's other writings. I think they make a powerful contribution to our understanding of the enigmas of our time, and may have the potential to helping us surmount them.

Fuller has had an illustrious career; first as physicist, then President of his alma mater, Oberlin College, as a citizen diplomat during the Cold War, chair of the board of Internews, and many other distinctions. The approach he takes to the issue of inequality may be a still greater contribution.

In his approach there are two main components to the problem of inequality: rankism, on the one hand, and dignity, on the other. The term rankism doesn't concern rank per se, only the abuse of rank. Some systems of rank are inherently abusive: white over black, male over female, hetero over homosexual, Christian over Muslim, extreme nationalism, and so on. But even legitimate systems of rank, those in most organizations, are often abusive; if not in principle, then in practice.

scheff :: Robert Fuller: An End to Inequality and Violence?
Fuller puts his searchlight on dignity and the ways it can be abused. This perspective offers what seems to me to be a distinctive solution to the problem of inequality. That is, it doesn't concern economic rank or political hierarchy directly, but dignity and its opposite, humiliation. This focus, as will be suggested below, may help with a problem that probably cannot be understood in strictly economic or political terms: gratuitous and/or interminable conflict.

Fuller's analysis begins with what he calls micro-inequalities, the withholding of dignity by one person from another. At work, if your boss continually interrupts conversations to take phone calls, it is a slight, a small indignity. But slights add up. If they are frequent enough, one can feel like a nobody. The boss may not intend it, but to be slighted consistently is humiliating.

Much of the sociologist Erving Goffman's work concerns this issue. He called it facework, the saving and loss of face. But it also is crucial to his most famous idea, impression management. One seeks to manage the impression one makes on others, in order to maintain one's dignity, and often, the dignity of others.

Goffman was concerned only with face-to-face interaction, but Fuller extends dignity/humiliation process up to the traditional problem of macro-inequalities between groups. All contacts between persons and between groups have an effect on the bond: it is either maintained, strengthened, or disrupted. Helping the other person or group maintain their dignity maintains the existing bond or strengthens it. Disrespect disrupts it. There are no exceptions: contact cannot occur without affecting the bond. Secure bonds lead to cooperation, disrupted ones to conflict. When the bond is entirely broken, as is often the case, others can become mere objects.
Fuller's approach is powerful in several different ways. It is applicable to many ostensibly different issues: race, inter-ethnic and inter-nation relations, gender, sexual orientation, social class, and so on. It also implies a theory that may explain gratuitous and/or interminable conflict between individuals and between groups.

For example, the Serbian attack on the Moslems in Bosnia in the 1990's can be traced back to a defeat of the Serbs by Moslem Turks hundreds of years earlier. The Serbs took this ancient defeat as a humiliation, and harbored vengeance until it became possible. Similarly, France plotted for many years to regain their honor (read dignity) after defeat in the Franco-Prussian War in 1871, and Hitler won over the German people by promising to regain the honor they lost in the defeat in 1918. Humiliation spawns humiliation, and it can strike deep. The dignity/humiliation framework seems to reach into the very core of human conduct.

Finally, Fuller uses terms that are understandable by everyone. Audiences all over the world have responded enthusiastically to his speeches. Indeed, his work could provide the foundation for a social movement to create dignitarian organizations and, ultimately, to build a dignitarian society. For these and other reasons not mentioned in these brief comments, Fuller's ideas are well worth our attention.  


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One thing that strikes me was: (0.00 / 0)
"... took this ancient defeat as a humiliation."

So it's not just how one is treated, it's how one chooses to understand one's treatment?

More broadly, I've read a little about this on blogs, and keep thinking the insight is basically that treating people badly is bad. Rank is fine, abuse of rank of wrong. Treating people with dignity is better than debasing them. I dunno, I'm sure I'm missing something ...


It's Not So Cut-And-Dried (0.00 / 0)
I think it's important to realize that people can refuse to be humiliated, or they can choose to wallow in humiliation, or any number of things in between.  How we are treated by others does not absolutely determine how we react.

But this should not be taken as license for people to treat us however they want.  Just because some individuals are capable of rising above being humiliated does not excuse the fact that certain acts are meant to humiliate, or that other acts will inevitably humiliate most people.

As for what you're missing, well, it's a whole lot of specific content. Aside from that, it's like the man said, "Everything I need to know, I learned in kindergarden."

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Okay, I'll check out one of the (0.00 / 0)
books mentioned below. Are there any abuses that aren't rank-based, though? Is that even conceivable? I mean, if a white woman humiliates a black man, fine, we can say that she humiliated him from the position of superior racial rank, despite her inferior sexual rank, but if a black woman humiliates a white man (and there are no other obvious 'ranks' in evidence, like wealth or position or whatever), doesn't she necessarily outrank him on at least one scale?

Maybe I should just start reading.


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Oh, NOW I Get It (4.00 / 1)
No, I don't think Fuller is necessarily saying that any and all acts of humiliation are necessarily rank-based.  And to that extent, his dignitarian model goes beyond simply responding to and providing a remedy for rankism.

However, I think he would say that the vast majority of offenses against human dignity are based directly on rankism.

The rest?  Well, maybe most of those would disappear, too, if the offenses based on rank didn't happen in the first place.

After all, as W.H. Auden wrote:

I and the public know
what all schoolchildren learn
those to whom evil is done
do evil in return


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Fuller's Books (0.00 / 0)
Very nice summary. Here are links to his books on Amazon:

All Rise: Somebodies, Nobodies, and the Politics of Dignity by Robert W. Fuller, May 2006

Somebodies and Nobodies: Overcoming the Abuse of Rank by Robert W. Fuller,  April 2004


see also Preventing Violence by James Gilligan (0.00 / 0)
If you like this stuff, you should read Preventing Violence by James Gilligan.  His basic thesis is that violence is caused ultimately by disrespect.  He then traces through a variety of situations, including income inequality, racial inequality, homophobia, etc.  This is one short book that permanently altered my view of the world.

And yes, Obama is playing this tune.


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