The Supreme Court as a Unifying Issue?

by: Daniel De Groot

Thu May 22, 2008 at 12:10


First off some really good news from the 9th Circuit:


Federal court rules against military's gay policy
Some believe ruling could mean the end of 'don't ask, don't tell'

Associated Press
updated 1:21 a.m. ET, Thurs., May. 22, 2008

SEATTLE - The U.S. military cannot automatically discharge people because they are gay, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday in the case of a decorated flight nurse who sued the Air Force over her dismissal.

The three judges from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals did not strike down the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. But they reinstated Maj. Margaret Witt's lawsuit, saying the Air Force must prove that her dismissal furthered the military's goals of troop readiness and unit cohesion.

Cleverly done if I may say, by leaving DADT standing in principle but placing an onerous burden on the Military to demonstrate why each individual homosexual had to be discharged for morale reasons.  

Naturally I want DADT gone as an indefensible relic of bigotry against homosexuals (and women should be allowed to serve in combat roles), but there's merit in this approach if it avoids being overturned by the Supreme Court.  

Which brings me to the Supreme Court, and its salience for Democrats, and the potential for Obama to use it as a unifying issue.  

Daniel De Groot :: The Supreme Court as a Unifying Issue?
I can't really tell how much of the anger among women and Clinton supporters generally about Hillary's loss or Obama's tactics or the behaviour of Obama's supporters is really going to amount to significant numbers of voters choosing McCain or staying home out of spite.  I don't want to dismiss the issue though, and find out in the 2008 exit polling that it really was significant.  Hopefully anyone bitter about the primary will come around, but maybe the lessons of Nader have already been forgotten.

Besides, "eventually" coming around and grudgingly voting for Obama is not good enough.  If Obama can speed up the process of uniting the Democratic party behind him, he definitely should.  It simply doesn't matter whether or not Clinton supporters have any legitimate grievance, their beliefs and feelings matter whatever the validity of the underlying factual issues.

The Judiciary in the Campaign So Far

I've written in the past about how the Judiciary is the one branch of the US government that I believe is actually not by-design stacked against progress and this ruling is a reminder (anecdotal I suppose) of that.  We have a Supreme Court that has 4 wingnuts, 5 conservatives and 7 Republican appointees and Roe is still (barely) standing.  If it takes absolutely hegemony by conservatives to get the court to overturn the progress of the 60s and 70s, I'd say institutionally the Court works pretty well as an engine of progress.

So I'm disappointed that neither Clinton nor Obama feature Judicial nominees on their issues pages, given the obvious importance of the issue for the next president.  Maybe JP Stevens will be one of those guys who lives heathily to 120, but the odds are not good.  McCain, on the other hand, has this off his front page and then (since that link looks like it rotates daily) a section devoted to the topic on his issues page.  Here's McCain:


For decades now, some federal judges have taken it upon themselves to pronounce and rule on matters that were never intended to be heard in courts or decided by judges. With a presumption that would have amazed the framers of our Constitution, and legal reasoning that would have mystified them, federal judges today issue rulings and opinions on policy questions that should be decided democratically. Assured of lifetime tenures, these judges show little regard for the authority of the president, the Congress, and the states.

So inherent in this is an attack on the rightful powers of the Judicial branch.  If it is a co-equal branch of government why should it show "regard" for the President, Congress or the States (and the States are not a co-equal branch).  This is a prescription for Judicial submissiveness.  And that Judges are not elected is not the crux of McCain's complaint here, or he would be arguing for elections for Fed-Chair and the Attorney-General and hell, why not popularly elect the Speaker of the House?  Lots of government positions are not elected.

He goes on to reference obliquely some cases that offended him:


as in a 2005 case concerning an aggravated murder in the State of Missouri. As you might recall, the case inspired a Supreme Court opinion that left posterity with a lengthy discourse on international law, the constitutions of other nations, the meaning of life, and "evolving standards of decency."

That of course, was the case which ruled against executing children and the reason Kennedy drew on the things that outrage McCain here like International law is because the definition of "cruel and unusual punishment" isn't exactly clearly spelt out in the text of the Constitution.  Far from "judicial legislation" Kennedy was fulfilling the right and proper function of the court.  Executing minors is a fucking abomination and that's why I'm pissed that the Democratic contenders don't rebut this stuff.  I mention all this to show the level of disingenuity conservatives have to sink to in order to make this case.

Oh and lest there was any doubt about McCain:


I have my own standards of judicial ability, experience, philosophy, and temperament. And Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito meet those standards in every respect.

In this version of Top Gun, Maverick doesn't ever abandon his wing man Bush to get the Jester.

Here's what I could find from Obama's site (I had to do a site specific google search to find it):


Speaking at the Planned Parenthood conference in DC this afternoon, Barack Obama leveled harsh words at conservative Supreme Court justices, and he offered his own intention to appoint justices with "empathy."

Now, that's from July 2007.  If he's said anything more recently on the subject, it's evidently not on his web site (there was also this page from 2005 which is the text of a Senate speech he made against a conservative nominee to the DC Circuit court, particularly noteworthy (worrisome in my view) is that he uses the "judicial activism" frame against her, reinforcing a conservative frame).

So yet again we have a battlefield on the Gramascian culture war which only one side is shooting.  

The Supreme Court as a Unifying Issue

Admittedly the polling picture is somewhat mixed.  That however, speaks to how weak the conservative case against the Judiciary really is.  They've been harping about this for decades and havn't managed to convince a majority or even a plurality on any of their nonsense.  This is all the more reason to engage this fight, it is clearly a fight liberals can win.

11% more people (Gallup, Sept 2007) think the court is already too conservative than too liberal (plurality says "about right").  52% say the Supreme court matters in their next vote for President (Quinnipiac, Aug 2007).  And consistent majorities or pluralities think Judges should rule according to "current realities" not "original intent" (ibid) - who knew that people were smart enough not to want to be governed by 18th century norms?!  Astonishing.

CNN asked people "Do you think elected officials should have more control over federal judges and the decisions they make in court cases, or don't you think so?" and 67% said no to 30 who said yes.

On every poll I see, there's plenty of room for a liberal argument to win as the public is already on side, often in the majority or even supermajorities.  This isn't divisive at all, the public wants the court to be able to overturn laws that don't meet constitutional standards, wants Roe upheld and wants Judges with mainstream contemporary ethics.  The public is amenable to the argument that the court is too conservative too.

These are the kinds of issues that will unite agrieved Clinton supporters behind Obama in a meaningful way.  Further, it's a generally unifying issue politically beyond just Democrats.  Conservatives have tried their darndest, but the nation still understands and respects the proper function of Judges.

Also, see  today's Greenwald for a concise essay on the proper role and function of Judges.  It's an easy case to make and we should be making it.


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How does Obama frame this (4.00 / 1)
argument as 'post-partisan' or 'one America' or whatever this thing is?

The only thing that pops out at me is, 7 are R appointees, 2 are D. So I think a compelling argument is that a Democratic president will 'balance' the court. Figuring actual judicial philosophies is hard, but Republican vs. Democratic appointees is easy. So, Vote D to Balance the Court ...  

Something like that?


Earl Warren Was A Republican (4.00 / 1)
In fact, he was so prominent, he was considered a potential presidential nominee.  So it's not a matter of party.  It's a matter of partisanship and extremist ideology.  It's also, quite frankly, a matter of judicial temperament, a term that has seemingly been re-defined into absurdity.

What Obama can do, quite simply, is to say that there's been a decades-long effort to politicize the courts, using polarizing buzzwords, and that it's time to restore balance.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Oh, I'm not saying this is (0.00 / 0)
necessarily the highest-level argument. Just wondering if anyone else thought it might be one of the more effective. Appeal to a sense of fairness: Rs have 7, Ds only have 2! And dovetail with the post-partisan messaging.

But you seem to agree with the end point, if not the path. I think focusing on party makes sense because you don't have prove party. Seven to two. But John Roberts? How dare you suggest he's right-wing! We in the media already established that he's a rock-solid jurist. Why, look! You made his wife cry. 'Barack Obama: He Makes Women Cry.'

I'm thinking, as I often do, from a position of ignorance, about your posts comparing the R ability with politics and the D ability with policy. I'm gonna have to re-read because I can try using your own arguments against you, but my feeling is that that is the nub of the matter, here.


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I'm Just Saying We Don't Have To Go There (0.00 / 0)
The "balanced" place to be is where the Dems have always been--it's fine to have a balance of R's and D's on the court.

It's the Republicans who tear their hair out when any Dem gets anywhere near the justice system--and they're just as hostile toward their own folks who fail to toe the line.

My bottom line here is that we should simply tell the truth:  we will replace the current focus on extreme rightwing Republican judges with a balance of reasonable judges from both parties.

Unless, of course, all the reasonable Republicans have already left the party.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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He can turn their (4.00 / 1)
Arguments on them.  Conservatives are arguing for the courts to respect the original intent of the constitution and so forth (as they define it of course).  Yet the Conservative conception of what function courts should play is not as the founders intended.

The founders wanted the courts to strike down unconstitutional laws.  Hamliton from Fed 78 (h/t greenwald):


wherever a particular statute contravenes the Constitution, it will be the duty of the judicial tribunals to adhere to the latter and disregard the former.

Judges are there to enforce the constitution.  Conservatives don't really like the constitution, particularly the bill of rights because those are universal.  They've spent 250 years trying to keep the definition of who qualifies for the Bill of Rights to a minimum.  First is was just white males, then just males, now they fight to keep it just as US citizens.


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Well, maybe. (0.00 / 0)
You seem to have faith in logic and argumentation. I think they're trumped by emotion every time.  

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Not that much faith (4.00 / 5)
But the polling I cited demostrates whatever level the conservative argument has been on, the public isn't finding it to be the Right-bower trump card either.

We're (barely) winning this fight without even engaging, if we engage, how could we not do better?  McCain has to evade mentioning the facts of the cases he cites in order to make the decisions look bad.  Hit him for attacking the court for saying Minors shouldn't be put to death like they do in saudi arabia.  That's plenty emotional, and true.


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I'd combine your argument and Paul's (0.00 / 0)
Republicans don't want unconstitutional laws struck down, they just want judges to repeal the New Deal and re-institute child labour (those they aren't executing).

One can make the argument that Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas are stuck in the 1930s. You could even dovetail it with an attack on McCain for being out of touch.

"Senator McCain says he will name judges like McReynolds, Sutherland, Butler and Van Devanter to the Supreme Court..."

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I dunno... (0.00 / 0)
Senator McCain says he will name judges like McReynolds, Sutherland, Butler and Van Devanter to the Supreme Court...

Sadly, I think that far two few people know of the "Four Horsemen" and what they stood for for that argument to carry much weight.  Anyone who hasn't studied the law will just be left scratching their head.

We PTDB! Now, let's pass Grayson's Public Option Act!


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There Is SOOO Much Room To Make Progress On This Issue (4.00 / 2)
After Bush v. Gore, everyone in the world should know that it's the conservatives who are the real judicial activists, cherry-picking both the precedents they want to cite and the ability of others to cite them as precedents.

So far, we've done a lousy job of pushing this home--and it's not just Bush v. Gore, as studies have shown that statistically it' the conservatives who much more often vote to overturn legislative acts.  The gutting of gender-based wage-discrimination provisions is just one of the most outrageous recent examples of this.

This definitely needs to be raised to a much higher level.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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