Democrat Who Lost The Most Reagan Democrats Tells Other Democrat How To Win Reagan Democrats

by: Chris Bowers

Fri May 30, 2008 at 15:30


Geraldine Ferraro looks deep into the hearts and minds of Reagan Democrats everywhere:

As for Reagan Democrats, how Clinton was treated is not their issue. They are more concerned with how they have been treated. Since March, when I was accused of being racist for a statement I made about the influence of blacks on Obama's historic campaign, people have been stopping me to express a common sentiment: If you're white you can't open your mouth without being accused of being racist. They see Obama's playing the race card throughout the campaign and no one calling him for it as frightening. They're not upset with Obama because he's black; they're upset because they don't expect to be treated fairly because they're white. It's not racism that is driving them, it's racial resentment. And that is enforced because they don't believe he understands them and their problems. That when he said in South Carolina after his victory "Our Time Has Come" they believe he is telling them that their time has passed.

Whom he chooses for his vice president makes no difference to them. That he is pro-choice means little. Learning more about his bio doesn't do it. They don't identify with someone who has gone to Columbia and Harvard Law School and is married to a Princeton-Harvard Law graduate. His experience with an educated single mother and being raised by middle class grandparents is not something they can empathize with. They may lack a formal higher education, but they're not stupid. What they're waiting for is assurance that an Obama administration won't leave them behind.

In the span of two paragraphs, Ferraro, who was on the ticket that lost more Reagan Democrats than any other Democratic ticket before or since, makes no less than tweleve generalizations about what Reagan Democrats are concerned with, how "they" feel, what "they" believe, what "they" think, and what "they" want to see.

Isn't this kind of like getting advice on shooting free throws from Shaq? Also, isn't repeatedly generalizing about an entire group of people kind of, you know, arrogant stereotyping? Maybe it is just me, but if I read an editorial that made such an enormous amount of assumptions as to what I thought because I belonged to a specific demographic group, I would probably be inclined to not vote for that person. I wonder if there is a connection here between Ferraro's assumptions about Reagan Democrats, and her previous inability to win them.  

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Alma Maters (4.00 / 14)
Ferraro says, "They don't identify with someone who has gone to Columbia and Harvard Law School and is married to a Princeton-Harvard Law graduate." But they will identify with someone who went to Wellesley and Yale Law School, who is married to a Georgetown-Yale law graduate. I'm constantly astounded that they can say things like this with a straight face.  

BING-FUCKING-O! (4.00 / 4)
This is turning into the most annoying primary and party ever.

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

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I'm no Ferraro fan but . . . (4.00 / 5)
I'd be willing to bet that she is pretty close here, at least to people she is familiar with, people her age.  This goes back to the civil rights legislation of the 1960's.  Read Rick Perlstein's description of the moment when white working class people and middle class people started to turn seriously against the civil rights movement, the kinds of mail and calls the Congress got.  They definitely felt that black people were getting special favors and they were going to be left behind.  

The question is whether she is describing a demographic that is basically over 60 here or whether these views are held by younger people too--I kind of think not so much.  But I do think she understands her own older white ethnic base pretty well, despite (or maybe even becausde of) having lost to Reagan in a year that anyone on the Mondale ticket as VP would have.

It is a strong argument for having a great deal of attention to economic inequality in Obama's program.  Being left behind, or even further behind, is a very real fear for a lot of people.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


If you drive through an inner city... (4.00 / 4)
...you can see that the "special treatment" stuff is bunk!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


[ Parent ]
Of course it is. (4.00 / 2)
I'm not defending the point of view, just explaining it.  Kind of like Obama did in his race speech, you know.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

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I agree, in that (0.00 / 0)
this is a generational dynamic much more than an income/education dynamic.  McCain's only commanding lead in the age demographics is 50-64, according to Pew.  I blogged about this here.

my web log.

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Agree -- she understands some folks (0.00 / 0)
I think her line to the effect that some folks feel that Obama's picture of change means their time is over and gone is exactly right. Demographically, that is simply true -- we are on the verge of having a society in which new immigrants, many Brown, many not speaking much English, are the prototypical low education, low wage workers.

The world these folks knew, a world where significant unionization meant that some working class jobs even paid enough to live on, is gone.

What they don't know is that it was the bosses, not the blacks, who stole their world and their hopes that their children might live as they did. Their pride in their accomplishments got trashed by mysterious changes. Change has not been good for some people.

Can it happen here?


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Sexist! (4.00 / 1)
I was just reading this on CNN. What the fuck does Ferraro know about Reagan Democrats? Last I checked she and Mondale had their asses handed to them by Reagan Democrats.  

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

A kernel of truth is buried there (4.00 / 2)
Is it just me, or does Ferraro sound more and more like Ed Koch, who kept veering to the right and making more outrageous statements, evidently for attention, after he left office?

Who exactly is a "Reagan Democrat?" (4.00 / 6)
Ezra Klein asked this question the other day.  The answer seems to be either 1) they don't really exist anymore, or 2) cranky old white men who vote solidly Republican and aren't coming back.

According to Pew:

Currently, Obama beats McCain among voters whose incomes are less than $50,000 a year.  And that lead is just as pronounced among voters who bring in less than $30,000.

Currently Obama edges McCain among voters who have a high school education or less(45-43).  In April, Obama enjoyed a larger edge (52-42) among this demographic.  (Perhaps the primary campaign cut this lead.)

I'm guessing that Ferraro is referring to Appalachian white voters.  But the education/income descriptions she uses are demographics that Obama performs pretty well in ... and with room to grow.

Ferraro is playing a similar rhetorical game against Obama that Republicans played against Kerry.  The "working class" won't relate to the "elitist."  But Kerry won these demographics too.

In the end, Ferraro has an outmoded and narrow view of what constitutes the working-class and the less-educated.  It's much less white and much less male than it was in 1984.    

my web log.


Disgusting, reactionary piece by Ferrarro (4.00 / 7)
I mean, as far as I can tell. It's too poorly written to tell for sure. I mean, consider this key passage.

They're not upset with Obama because he's black; they're upset because they don't expect to be treated fairly because they're white. It's not racism that is driving them, it's racial resentment. And that is enforced because they don't believe he understands them and their problems. That when he said in South Carolina after his victory "Our Time Has Come" they believe he is telling them that their time has passed.

Well, it would've been nice if she'd actually discussed "their problems." Not a word about globalization or corporatization or economic inequality or wage stagnation or the war in Iraq or health care. No, the only problem she mentions is the one that's supposedly victimized her: reverse racism.

As for Obama not understanding "their problems," well, I've blogged long and hard about his difficulties with white working class voters, but let's remember that alone among candidates (for obvious reasons) Obama has addressed the problem that bothers Ferrarro above all others: reverse racism:

Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience - as far as they're concerned, no one's handed them anything, they've built it from scratch. They've worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they're told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.

Sounds like he has a lot better grasp on "their problems" than Ferrarro.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/...



I think you're reading it correctly, dm. (0.00 / 0)


my web log.

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Quien es mas Victima? (4.00 / 3)
I totally agree with your take on the irony of Ferraro speaking for the working white masses , but I can't believe nobody's pointed out the obvious: that in the span of one editorial Ms. Ferraro claims Clinton suffers both deep-rooted sexism that hates women and a stifling political correctness that favors blacks.  Ferraro enshrouds Clinton in a double-mantle of victimization.  This shameless race to be the world's greatest victim is now the only game Ferraro has left.  

Translation: (4.00 / 2)
"Them blacks have got it pretty good and just need to shut up and stop whining and asking for more handouts and free rides. We give and they keep asking for more!"

I grew up in Ferraro's borough of Queens, NY and heard this sort of tripe from white racists my whole life--and still hear it when I go back to visit--so I'm not making this stuff up.

Looks to me like she needs to just shut up and stop making this even worse. She's helping no one on our side--least of all Clinton--and just gives her Fox buddies more fodder with which to beat the "Dems in Disarray" meme (which, I believe, she's intentionally doing because it's what's paying the bills these days--I don't trust ANY Dem who regularly appears on that vomitorious piece of yellow journalism shite, including Wes Clark).

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


Wes Clark .. (4.00 / 1)
is the only one that goes on there and regularly beats back their trash .. sadly .. a full Democratic boycott of Faux won't happen .. not when you have asshats like Ferraro and Lanny Davis around

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Ferraro and Davis are Democrats? (0.00 / 0)
Not according to my standard. They're Liebercrats, or Millerites--self-hating DINOs who love playing beta dog to the right. And Clark, well, my opinion of him has declined of late, for obvious reasons. But I never did like his being a regular Fox contributor. No one who watches Fox regularly is likely to be swayed by him or anyone else, and merely appearing on that yellow journalism outlet is enabling it. Better to trash and refute their propaganda from the outside than help it boost ratings by "debating" Democrats.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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Not even close. (4.00 / 3)
Isn't this kind of like getting advice on shooting free throws from Shaq?

Shaq's worst FTP was about 42, while Ferraro was on a ticket that lost 49 out of 50 states.


Stop, Actually Listen (4.00 / 2)
I have no idea about "Reagan Democrats", but let me point out the blindingly obvious fact that Ferraro is accurately describing how she feels.  And then let me point out that she is not alone.

I'm not saying she is right, I'm saying she is accurate, if you understand what I'm saying.

I've noted the exact same sentiments a few times now.  For one, I've been surprised how often I've heard "reparations" mentioned by Clinton supporters.  There are many out there who honestly fear they will be made to pay for their ancestor's sins.  I think Obama actually can directly discuss this issue and probably should.

But this also goes to the issue of Exclusive vs Exclusion: "Sometimes they don't get the difference between no longer being the exclusive end-all and being excluded."  That is a much harder nut to crack.

I think it would be a good idea to spend a week this summer talking about this issue directly while touring Appalachia.  He would have to discuss reparations and the fear of being left behind directly and give specific, policy reasons why this will not happen.  Obama could actually take advantage of his background and race to say things that could almost sound like David Duke that other politicians cannot.  As long as the them keeps coming back to inclusion, the message can remain very liberal.  If he goes with Edwards or someone similar as his VP, that could be useful on such a tour as well.

Note that this would not win Appalachia by a long shot, but it could help lesson the loss and convince others sympathetic to the Appalachian way of thinking.


fighting stupidity? (0.00 / 0)
I have no idea about "Reagan Democrats", but let me point out the blindingly obvious fact that Ferraro is accurately describing how she feels.

That's true, but she's claiming to describe how a large proportion of the Democratic electorate feel.  Moreover, in doing so she says that "they're not stupid", and then every description she uses sure makes these hypothetical people sound incredibly stupid.  I'd like to think that they are just a product of her twisted mind, although I suspect she is right to some degree.

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Stuck in the past (0.00 / 0)
Ferraro is stuck in 1984.  As has been well established already, there is no such thing as a "Reagan Democrat" in 2008.  Might pretending there is, and pandering to the fantasy have anything to do with electoral loss?  We are supposed to be the reality based community.  Time to grow up and act like it.

I liked one part (0.00 / 0)
That when he said in South Carolina after his victory "Our Time Has Come" they believe he is telling them that their time has passed.

Hell. Yes. I don't know what a Reagan Democrat is, but conservative Southern Whites have been a key part of every majority political coalition for 70 years. THANK GOD that their time has passed.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.


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