A Very Close Election, But Clinton Wasn't Robbed

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 18:30


After any close election, not only will there be a sense of frustration and anguish among the supporters of the losing candidate, but there will also be a significant amount of feeling that the result was somehow unfair or unjust. The 2008 Democratic Presidential nomination campaign will be no different in this regard, as there are already numerous narratives from the Clinton campaign and Clinton supporters that Senator Hillary Clinton was, in some fashion, robbed of the nomination.

However, while there are at least six narratives of this type, none of them hold up to closer scrutiny. I examine, and debunk, each of these six arguments in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: A Very Close Election, But Clinton Wasn't Robbed
Debunking The Six "Clinton Was Robbed" Arguments
  1. Popular Vote: The Clinton campaign has long claimed that Senator Clinton received more votes in the nomination campaign than did Senator Obama. However, when all states are included, and when Senator Obama is, as per exit polls, properly allocated 72.9167% of the Michigan uncommitted vote and uncounted write-in votes, then he actually leads by 17,393 votes. This is the only counting system that I know of which includes every state, and which only counts each voter once. As such, it is the broadest and fairest count, and Obama leads in it. Senator Obama, not Senator Clinton, narrowly won the national popular vote.

  2. Caucuses: This complaint is mainly a subset of the popular vote argument, but it has still cropped up enough to deserve individual mention. The Clinton campaign has repeatedly argued that Senator Clinton leads among primary delegates, and would have won the nomination if every state held a primary instead of a caucus. As I explained earlier today in more detail earlier today, it is probably correct that Clinton would have won the nomination if every state held a primary instead of a caucus. However, since Obama won the popular vote, since every campaign knew which states would hold caucuses more than a year ahead of time, and since no campaign complained about caucuses until at least late January 2008, this argument doesn't hold any weight. These were the rules, everyone knew them ahead of time, but the Clinton and Obama campaigns simply approached caucuses with different amounts of resources. For example, according to an article in today's Washington Post, Obama had 21 campaign staffers in Kansas to Clinton's 3, and the Obama campaign has an official presence in the state three months longer than the Clinton campaign. Clinton did just fine in the caucuses she targeted--Iowa, Nevada and New Mexico. Her failures in other caucus states are due to a lack of organizing and her inability to sway the Democratic activist class.

  3. Media Coverage: The Clinton campaign and Clinton supporters have complained excessively about imbalanced, supposedly pro-Obama media coverage during the nomination campaign. However, as it turns out, media coverage of Clinton and Obama was equally favorable from January 1st through March 9th, according to the latest study from the Project for Excellence in Journalism. The time period of the study, which ended just before coverage of Jeremiah Wright exploded across the corporate media, showed Obama with 69% favorable media coverage, and Clinton with 67% favorable media coverage. As such, in 2008, it does not appear that Senator Barack Obama received more favorable media coverage than Senator Hillary Clinton.

  4. More Sexism Than Racism: I won't attempt in this space to determine if there was more sexism or racism in the campaign, if one candidate benefited more form the refusal of certain voters to pick a woman / African-American, or if one campaign played the racism / sexism card more. From my vantage point, it has pretty been a wash. I suppose someone could conduct a survey of exit polls, and add of the Clinton vs. Obama split in every state among voters who said that "race was a factor" in their decision and that "gender was a factor" in their decision. Combine that with a more extensive media study, and maybe we can make an actual determination. Until that time, however, this is a question with only subjective, indeterminate answers.

  5. Rules and Bylaws Committee Decision: What if Michigan and Florida has been seated, with full voting rights, based exclusively on the results of their January primaries? Even then, because of the 22 uncommitted Michigan delegates who chosen at the April 17th district conventions and who publicly supported Obama, it turns out that Obama would have still gone over the 2,210 magic number last night. So, according to the Clinton campaign's own delegate argument, Barack Obama has reached the magic number of delegates. The Rules and Bylaws Committee did not change the outcome, only the margins.

  6. No Florida and Michigan Revotes: Finally, according to today's Washington Post, the Obama campaign was always opposed to any revotes in Florida and Michigan, because they feared such revotes could give Clinton momentum, delegates and a popular vote advantage. This does seem like an egregious act on the Obama campaign's part. However, the Clinton camp never approved a revote plan for Florida, either, so the Obama camp is no more at fault in that state than the Clinton camp. When it comes to Michigan, any revote would have probably allowed Obama to narrow Clinton's popular vote margin in Michigan (a margin of roughly 135,000 according to the above popular vote totals), and at least draw even to the five delegate margin that Clinton eventually received from the Rules and Bylaws committee. This is because the only post-primary poll of Michigan showed a dead heat, 41%-41%, between Obama and Clinton in Michigan. Had there been a Michigan revote, Obama's delegate margin would not have been reduced, while his popular vote margin would have increased. So, while it was not the most enlightened action undertaken by the Obama campaign, it would not have affected the ultimate outcome.

Overall, while the margin was extremely narrow, Obama still won the nomination fair and square. He won the popular vote, did not receive more favorable treatment in the media during 2008, probably did not disproportionately benefit from the racism vs. sexism divide (although more study might be needed on that one), and would have still prevailed under any Florida and Michigan scenario. It was a tough, bitter, slog of a campaign, but the outcome was not unfair. In the most fascinating nomination campaign any of us will probably ever witness, Barack Obama emerged the narrow, but ultimately deserving, victor. Let the healing begin.


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at least one other (4.00 / 3)
A spinoff of the caucus argument:

"States which Democrats will never win in a general election played a disproportionate impact in the outcome, when the real question should have been 'who can win key Democratic and swing states?'"

The response, of course, is (a) but you knew what the rules were, and (b) those states have Democrats too, and Every Voter Counts.


It goes back to the whole 50 state thing ... (0.00 / 0)
Dean and Obama exploited it ... Hillary and Co. couldn't be bothered  

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I forgot to add .. (0.00 / 0)
every vote counts that voted for Clinton ... if you voted for Obama ... that didn't count .. small states didn't count .. well you get the point

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Puerto Rico (0.00 / 0)
To make that argument, the Clinton camp would have to throw out their delegates and popular votes from Puerto Rico, since it plays zero role in the general election.

Conduct your own interview of Sarah Palin!

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Delegate distribution (0.00 / 0)
Redder states get fewer delegates anway, so the argument doesn't stand on its own merits. Even aside from it playing into the tyranny of the swing voter, which itself contradicts the argument that Obama only won through independents.

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Well written. Many thanks for taking the time (4.00 / 2)
After the dust settles and an independent media analysis includes the time period after March, I'm willing to bet it will show a positive imbalance in favor of Clinton, not negative.

Taking just a few of the media-hyped issues:

The negatives on Wright (and by association-only Obama) were resurrected for more than 36 news cycles.

The negatives on the Bosnia misstatements less than a week.

The negatives on the assassination gaffe lasted 3 news cycles over a holiday weekend.

I hope someone eventually tallies up negative stories on just what the candidate on each side said, not their spouse, their pastor, or any guest speaker in the candidate's church.

In my biased opinion, Hillary had it way easy.  Had Senator Obama responded to her in kind she would have never survived.

Senator Obama's rapid and targeted responses to the smears of John McCain prove that he could have done it.


Robbing can be seen as part of the game (4.00 / 1)
Great post, Chris.

Supporters often feel like their candidate was robbed. Hillary wasn't robbed of the nomination, Dean wasn't robbed of the nomination, Brown wasn't robbed, Hart wasn't robbed, McCarthy wasn't robbed.  

Did things go wrong that weren't the candidates' fault in all these races? Sure.  But that's all part of the game.   To win in politics, you have to be prepared for anything.  You have to adjust strategically and plan for unfair play and media treatment, etc.  

There is no question which candidate in this race planned and strategized and reacted better tactically on-the-fly.  

Obama easily ran the best primary race since Bill Clinton in '92, and I'd argue he ran much better than even that candidate. I wasn't around for JFK in 1960, but that one also strikes me as a great one, historically.  


I don't agree with this (0.00 / 0)
It's not a game, and this isn't the ideal we should be shooting for:

To win in politics, you have to be prepared for anything.  You have to adjust strategically and plan for unfair play and media treatment, etc.

By this logic, Al Gore wasn't robbed in Florida.

Chris is making an argument that Clinton was not robbed, which is different from the Vince Lombardi type argument you're making.  


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no (0.00 / 0)
Different case.  Note that I didn't mention Gore.

And you're extending my argument.  That's a cheap tactic.

Also, Gore did handle the press very poorly throughout the campaign. He handled the press poorly post-FL as well.  

The press didn't play fair, of course.  They didn't investigate the Brooks Brothers Riot.  But Gore did not recognize or deal with the press bias.  It was up to him to do that. He just kept a traditional strategy, expecting fair treatment.


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Sexism? (4.00 / 1)
While lots of folks have been quick to make firm pronouncements - of sexism, of racism, of being robbed, etc - I have been trying to keep an open mind to more than one possibility... to stay in question mode, because that's where I usually find genuine insights. So today's question is this: Lots of people are talking about the need to give Hillary time to come to terms with her loss. It's almost like some of them are tiptoeing around. Have we ever seen this with men who lost, however closely? Did people worry publicly about giving Al Gore t-i-m-e? I mean, talk about a huge loss! - I can't recall the same approach to a male candidate, but maybe I just didn't catch it at the time.

"Her Space" (0.00 / 0)
I thought of the same thing last night when one of her surrogates was on tv saying that this has all been very emotional for her and that she needed "her space" to make her decision.  And I thought to myself that is exactly the kind of comment that could be wrenched into fitting her sexism narrative, except for the fact that it was coming from her own campaign!

The "her space" comment specifically reminded me of Obama's "When she's feeling down" comment which hadn't even crossed my mind as seeming sexist when I first heard it.  


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Umm.... yeah (0.00 / 0)
I am not exactly an unbiased observer... but yeah, that sounds definitively sexist. Both Clintons have been known for drama, but somehow, it is associated more with HRC than WJC.

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Emotional space (0.00 / 0)
This has been the media narrative, not necessarily her narrative.  Needing some time to sort things out and decide on strategy makes perfect sense and is much more likely to be what is going on than her needing emotional space.  

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Losing (0.00 / 0)
I think Gore is the only relevant comparison, though, because there hasn't been another election that is this big and this close (and in which people encourage the loser to bow out graciously for the good of the country).

That said, Gore had a lot more time to come to grips with what might happen.


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Primary vs. Popular (0.00 / 0)
Watching the cable news coverage last night, I noticed Clinton and her surrogates making their claims that she recieved more primary votes than any other candidate.  Then when the cameras turned back to the pundits they would invariably say something like "she won the popular vote."  Each time I wanted to throw the remote at the tv and scream "But that's not what she said!"

Obviously dumbing things down into digestible bites is part of what the talking heads do but with this being the claim which she rests her continued candidacy on, you think they could take a second to make the distinction more clear.


HRC and Feminism (0.00 / 1)
I just hope that feminists who are supporting Clinton just so they would see a woman shatter the highest glass ceiling realize just how much damage she has done to the cause.

The core of feminism is a rejection of a need to submit to social expectation. Hillary Clinton has tried to play to all sorts of social expectation in this race. First, she had to be tougher than the manly men, and support the Iraq war, and the
"obliteration" of Iran. Then, she had to show her "feminine" side by tearing up in New Hampshire.

Earlier, she defended a husband who was unfaithful, who caused her humiliation, and worst betrayal of all, she tried to discredit a woman who was a victim of sexual harassment at the hands of a powerful man.

Of course, these could have all been honest motivations and emotions, but it is eerie, the way they tracked public polls and opinions that would lead her to the Presidency.  


No, the core of feminism (4.00 / 1)
is that we treat women with the respect they deserve as people.  This may mean that we don't expect women to act like men to be considered a good leader.  It may mean that we recognize that some women have different leadership styles that may lead them to be gasp emotional.  

In every relationship you have to determine your own best course.  For her, and for many others, that means staying with your husband (that whole until death do us part thing...) for others it may not.  I'm not sure who you are referring to as a victim of sexual harrassment, but I'm assuming it's not Monica, since she was a consentual partner.  I'm not defending this action, but don't make people victims who do not see themselves as one.

She hasn't damaged feminism.  I just witnessed a woman run for highest office.  She didn't win, but she put up a fight.  I am a Clinton supporter who will vote for Obama, but Clinton gave me the hope that my future daughter will know, that she can actually be anything she wants to be.  


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I'm dubious that Clinton wanted a revote (4.00 / 1)
in Michigan. She insisted upon purging the Democrats and Independents who'd voted in the Republican primary after being told by the party and both major candidates that the Joseph Stalin straw poll wouldn't count. The Rasmussen poll you referenced showed her with a solid lead among dems and Obama with a solid lead among indies. She made a totally unreasonable demand that a week later was made impossible by a federal judge's ruling that the Jan. 15 primary was unconstitutional: www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080326/METRO/803260443

If she really wanted a revote in Michigan, why didn't she make a reasonable proposal? Michigan was a state that leaned Obama (as supported by Poblano's analysis) in a fair fight. We can only speculate, but as you say, it's clear that Clinton never could've matched her performance on Jan. 15, and as Mark Schmitt wrote at the time, she benefitted from the confusion: http://www.prospect.org/csnc/b...

As for the sexism vs. racism debate, I think this one has been the most harmful to Obama, and made worse by the fact that Clinton has encouraged it and it's politically untouchable topic for Obama. He's totally defenseless, even though he has an excellent defense supported by the exit polls and countless field reports documenting racism.

As I posted here before, ThatPoshGirl made a graph of the exit poll data on gender and race voters through 5/13: http://www.dailykos.com/story/... Shows Clinton with a huge advantage - probably even bigger if the totals were weighted. This advantage continued through yesterday's results: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21...


Agree about MI (0.00 / 0)
Not least because the most certain way to do a revote in MI would have been to do a firehouse caucus. Had Hillary embraced that inFebruary, we would have had a revote and teh issues with the cross-overs might have been manageable.

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I'm not sure why (0.00 / 0)
this hasn't been talked about more. Like you said, these recent states (MT, KY, PR, SD) all would strengthen the overall trend seen in ThatPoshGirl's diary, with gender voters more likely to pick Hillary, race voters also more likely to pick Hillary. In OR, race voters picked Obama narrowly, while gender voters picked Hillary.  

It's interesting because sexism was so evident in the media. I wonder how much of Hillary's gender vote was a backlash against media sexism, like I suspect happened in New Hampshire?


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Obama and his supporters don't want it discussed. (4.00 / 1)
The only reason we've heard so much about sexism (which as you say, has been very evident in the media) is because Clinton has pushed it. She can do that because around 58% of voters are women. But during the media's blatantly racist flogging of the Reverend Wright story, Obama could not fight back because his very political survival depends on "transcending race" in appealing to the white majority.

Clinton wouldn't have played the gender card so frequently unless she knew it would help her. I don't know if media sexism itself helped her, though. What seems clear is that race was no friend to Obama.


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Right, (0.00 / 0)
and gender based voting seemed to be of benefit to Clinton.  But it also makes you wonder, because sexism is so institutionalized still, whether people who voted against Clinton based on gender were as able to perceive it...I know I don't pick up sexism as easily as I do racism (maybe because I'm a guy, but I think also because of how institutional it still is).

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I think so (0.00 / 0)
People definitely seem less attuned to sexism than racism. Probably because the latter is deemed more offensive. There's been a much stronger campaign against it, against the stereotypes, whereas many sexist stereotypes are still quite popular and widely used. The push against racism has also driven a lot of it underground, though, to the extent that people may be less willing to admit racism than sexism in an exit poll. So perhaps sexists are less self-aware and racists are more discreet.

Where Clinton got the advantage was in having her group be a strong majority and Obama's be a small minority. This is why it's much easier for white women to get elected to national office than it is for black men. A recent study by the Brookings Institution actually found that women who run for political office are just as likely to win as men: http://www.brookings.edu/~/med...

Sounds hard to believe and I'm not asserting it's true, but most voters are women, so it's harder for sexists to counter the votes they get because of their gender. Not like a job situation where one man decides who gets the promotion.

I actually hope Clinton did benefit from the media's misogyny. That's the proper result.


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That's how I felt about NH... (0.00 / 0)
I remember thinking I really wanted Obama to win it, but that it was the "proper" result given the day before's events.

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Overall, (0.00 / 0)
Hillary Clinton's campaign expertly executed flawed campaign and financial strategies, especially concerning caucuses and small dollar internet fund raising, respectively. They relied upon conventional assumptions in an unconventional contest, and ultimately were unable to correct course. However, that reality doesn't diminish the fact that the DNC robbed her of four MI delegates and awarded Obama delegates from votes he did not earn. It would not have changed the outcome, but it was an unnecessary kick at a strong candidate trapped in a weak campaign, and that act alone will make it more difficult -- if not impossible -- for unity.

Those four delegates were never hers (0.00 / 0)
They were not even recognized by the state party. You can't be robbed of what you never had, of what you say "is not going to count for anything."

What the RBC did was give Clinton a 5-delegate advantage for a contest that all parties agreed would not count. It was an act of generosity, an oliver branch Obama did not have to give. He had the votes for a fair 50-50 split.


[ Parent ]
By your argument, (0.00 / 0)
Obama should not have received any delegates when he forfeited any claim to them by removing his name from the ballot. No votes, no delegates. To do otherwise is stealing.

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Sexism and New Hampshire (4.00 / 1)
I don't have a great understand of how much sexism influenced the election overall.  However, there is one contest where I'm very confident sexism played a role: New Hampshire.  After several days of horrible misogyny from the press, women came out in droves to support Hillary.

If it wasn't for sexism, Hillary would have lost New Hampshire.


RE: Sexism and New Hampshire (0.00 / 0)
It's creepy comments like this that make unity impossible.  It's true that there was -- and continues to be -- a ton of misogyny + hatred directed at Hillary in the main stream media as well as the liberal blogosphere but she didn't win NH because of it.  In fact, she's won many of these contests in spite of it.  When -- usually ignorant male -- Obama supporters say stuff like this -- it makes it even harder for Hillary's supporters to meaningfully embrace Obama's candidacy.  

As for racism versus sexism -- this has been discussed endlessly in the liberal blogosphere but I think it goes without saying that the level of sexist vitriol spewed at Hillary + her supporters has been epic.  You just have to watch Chris Matthews/Hardball, Wolf Blitzer/CNN, Keith Olbermann, etc., or read any number of on-line news sources and blogs.  Only a week or so ago there was a polite conversation among pundits on Blitzer's show about whether it was okay to refer to Hillary Clinton as a bitch -- as though this was a topic one might legitimately debate on the news....  Can you even imagine the same scenario in regards to Obama and race?

As the nominee, Obama needs to call this crap out.  He has yet to reign in his sexist surrogates -- he made a lukewarm attempt to distance himself from Michael Pfleger and has yet to do something about Ed Shultz (as far as I know).  He should have used Pfleger as an opportunity to tell his surrogates and supporters to stop with these ridiculous sexist attacks....


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I agree on one thing (0.00 / 0)
that Obama should have called sexist crap in the media/surrogates out more than he did.  But I don't think the NH comment was creepy.  It did seem like the backlash over the media (and Edwards') comments contributed to her victory.  

But I do think sexism is much more "acceptable" in mainstream america and the media than racism is.  I've never understood why that is...


[ Parent ]
Changing the rules... (0.00 / 0)
With all due respect, I can't help but think that Bowers changed the rules a little in counting the popular vote. Only on Monday (link), he gave this as the popular vote count:

Clinton: 17,916,763
Obama: 17,896,864

This is a net margin of just under 20,000 votes.

He predicted the following:

Now, with about 275,000 votes left to go in South Dakota and Montana, and with Obama holding double-digit leads in both states, it would be pretty surprising if Obama did not end up as the winner of the popular vote.

So what happened in South Dakota and Montana? Obama did win Montana, but Clinton upset him in South Dakota. According to RCP, the net margin was a gain of 17,036 votes for Obama, leaving Clinton with a tiny, but positive, margin of just under 3,000 votes.

In today's post, he adds a new source of votes not counted on Monday--write-ins in Michigan. There are some problems with this--I haven't seen a reliable number for this, and if we're going to start counting these, shouldn't we look for uncounted votes in all of the other states, too? Heck, the exit polls say that even some of Clinton's supporters in Michigan voted uncommitted.

But the main point is that it seems he's changing the rules that he set himself only two days ago. Two days ago, Obama needed about 20,000 votes to take the popular vote margin. Surprisingly, he didn't get it. From that premise, then, Clinton won the popular vote.

The right argument, I think, is that it's a tie in the popular vote, and the race is officially decided by delegates. Someone had to win, and it looks like it's Obama. But to say that he also won the popular vote when your own rules from Monday say differently isn't as believable.


Bowers explained the change (0.00 / 0)
and made it before South Dakota and Montana voted: http://openleft.com/showDiary....

As I've said, I don't consider any popular vote count to be legitimate, especially counts that include elections which the candidates and citizens were told would not count (by this standard, Obama won by 445,000 votes), but Bowers was acting in good faith.

While the Michigan exit poll shows that 3% of Clinton's supporters oddly voted for uncommitted, it also shows that 18% of Obama supporters and 30% of Edwards supporters voted for Clinton.  


[ Parent ]
I see your point. (4.00 / 1)
I don't see the logic in assuming that write-ins should be assumed to be weighted the same as uncommitted. The write-ins are not covered by exit polls. For all we know people might have written in Mickey Mouse.

Also, no matter what the RBC did, you can't take away votes that were cast for Clinton.

The certainty in Bowers' post about Obama winning the popular vote is definitely misplaced, I feel.


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I don't know if they were (0.00 / 0)
covered by exit polls or not. As I understand it, these were votes written on the ballots by people who went to their polling places. If so, it seems like they would've been exit polled. 4.5% also seems like a very high number, likely due to two major candidates not being on the ballot. But I haven't looked into this, because to me it's not legitimate to count an election that everyone was told would not count.

"Also, no matter what the RBC did, you can't take away votes that were cast for Clinton."

Yes, but if you're going to count the 3% of uncommitted voters who supported her, you have to take away the Obama and Edwards supporters who only voted for her because their candidate wasn't on the ballot.

Another thing that has been lost in the "popular vote" count is that a lot of people have changed their minds. Aside from a couple rough weeks, Obama has been consistently leading Clinton by 8-10 nationally for three months. People can count a popular vote all they want but it does not correlate to the popular will.


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Not all that certain (0.00 / 0)
In the previous post on the popular vote, I admit it fell within the margin for error, that there are about 972 different popular votes, and I even put "I Think" In parenthesis after the title.

You are correct--I can't prove for certain that Obama won the popular vote. It was really, really close. It fell within the margin of error. There will probably never be a definite winner of the popular vote, but on balance I think the evidence favors Obama.  


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Media Bias (4.00 / 2)
I think its a little bizarre to simply quote one study as a dismissal of this issue.  

The race was decided between the Iowa Caucuses and Super Tuesday.  The Center for Media and Public Affairs found that during the December 16th to January 29th period, in on-air coverage Obama was positively portrayed 84% of the time whereas Clinton was positively portrayed 51% of the time.  That's an enormous discrepancy during the critical period of the race.  There's also of course a lot of anecdotal evidence that a hugely disproportionate number of these people, as well as those in the print world, are Obama supporters and consistently express serious antipathy toward Clinton off the record.  I don't think you can just dismiss that.  Later on, I think the media underwent a correction, partly because of the scrutiny of its biases and partly because it wanted to prolong the race.  But the race was already basically decided at that point.  It was like a series of make-up calls in a basketball game once one team is already up by 20 in the 4th quarter.

What's past is past and we need to move on.  But I have qualms about rewriting history in the interest of party unity.  The evidence strongly points to the media having its thumb heavily on the scale for Obama during the 3-4 weeks when the race was actually decided.  They played a role in the outcome.  It is what it is.

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The relevant history (0.00 / 0)
Three or four years ago, the blogs were critics of the media environmnet, and Democratic activists were speaking of building a progressive infrastructure, the blogs being a potential cornerstone.  The internet, people reasoned, was more open and thus ultimately more reality based than the right wing noise machine.  We could have an information network based on reason, to compete with the conservative structure based in propaganda.  

It was all false hope.  In the end, the media determined the primary, and chose the candidate.  The blogs that didn't tout the media storyline were marginalized.  The blogs played the story of the day and reinforced the mainstream media narratives.  The media won, again.  

Air America went from a relatively sane alternative to a propaganda mill on parity with Rush.  Olbermann became cable's new Sean Hannity.  The stupider he got, the higher his ratings soared.

The Democrats, tired of running the more experienced candidate, nominated someone with less experience than Bush had in 2000, and clothed himself in Reaganesque feel-good rhetoric.  The Democrats no longer have any credibility on elections, on counting votes and defending the principles of popular legitimacy.

Chris thinks the question for Clinton voters is whether Clinton was robbed.  It isn't.  The question is whether the political system, either political party, has any remaining legitimacy.  That is a delicate question far beyond the scope of a single blog post.


[ Parent ]
anybody watch the Pittsburgh <> Detroit game tonight? (0.00 / 0)
The game would have gone into overtime had the Penguins goalie not fallen on the puck and squeezed it into his own goal... or maybe had the refs whistled.. or maybe...  well you get the idea.  

It's always hard on the fans when the opposition when the cup on their turf but the game goes on.


GOP polling data show McCain's chances of winning no more than 30% (0.00 / 0)
This is why the Clintons wouldn't give up and insisted on using any metric possible to argue their case.....the GOP chance of success is less than 30 percent.....the dem primary was the fight of the year....the general is going to be a cake walk. imho

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